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5 Worst Action Cliches (Writing Advice) 

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Learn about the worst action cliches and how to avoid writing them--with examples from John Wick, Alien, The Walking Dead, and more!
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@xShadowChrisx
@xShadowChrisx 3 месяца назад
Sorry but I have to call out the nunchuck nitpick. That's *actually* realistic. Helmets designed to stop bullets are NOT helping against blunt force trauma weapons. Even in the age of full metal plate armor, blunt force weapons was the actual counter for them. You can stop a bullet, or other piercing/slashing weapon, but it really won't help you against blunt force weapons like nunchucks or in historical cases, warhammers/maces.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Interesting. I wasn’t aware of this. Thanks for calling me out on it. Reminds me of the part in The Dark Knight where Batman gets new armor that stops bullets but leaves him more susceptible to being stabbed.
@JeremyHoffman
@JeremyHoffman 3 месяца назад
A warhammer can smash through plate armor, sure, but I am having trouble imagining that nunchucks can injure someone wearing bullet-blocking helmets. Maybe I don't understand how nunchucks work -- they don't have that much mass do they? They're certainly moving slower than a bullet!
@TheAlimaniac
@TheAlimaniac 3 месяца назад
There are more points that pulled me out of John wick 4. The, I guess, worst one is when he fell out of the 4th floor when he was fighting the dragon breath guys. These for sure could have been easily avoided with a more "realistic" and even better fitting idea. For a example "fighting down" on a framework what would offer another cool shot!
@xShadowChrisx
@xShadowChrisx 3 месяца назад
@@JeremyHoffman It's more about distribution of mass. A 9mm bullet has the kinetic energy of about a punch swung by a boxer, which is all those helmets are rated for, but they're very good at stopping *penetration*. Those guys are still feeling it, just not as much due to the design of the helmet which stops the brunt of damage. Blunt force trauma from a club like weapon won't care as much about the helmet, simply because the helmet wasn't *designed* to stop that. Actual helments like that are only good for small arms and shrapnel. They're not designed to stop blunt force trauma. If you want to see a helmet that *is* designed for that, look to modern Motercycle helmets. They're huge. They're clunky. They're designed to crumple, just like modern cars, because that softens the impact of blunt force trauma. You need to slow down the mass coming at you (or your mass coming toward the pavement) for an effect to be noticed. Those helmets aren't slowing down anything, because they're right on your skull. No space between the helmet and your skull, means *all* that force is not being dispersed, and going *right* into your skull. A bullet actually have a lot less kinetic force than you would think compared to a good bludgeoning weapon, it just has it concentrated on a *much* smaller mass. Sorry for the essay.
@xShadowChrisx
@xShadowChrisx 3 месяца назад
@@TheAlimaniac Yeah the movies definitely love him falling down to show how tough he is, that's the most egregious thing they do, which I don't mind when my action heroes are a bit superhuman so long as it looks like it *does* hurt them still.
@SL2797
@SL2797 3 месяца назад
"I don't get shot in the head very often." ~ Brandon McNutty 2024
@themr_wilson
@themr_wilson 3 месяца назад
Only a few times a year
@KarmaSpaz12
@KarmaSpaz12 3 месяца назад
Sounds like a great way to start a novel!
@randomlyfactual1943
@randomlyfactual1943 3 месяца назад
​@@KarmaSpaz12"As far back as I can remember, I wanted to be a gangster. But then I got shot in the head and died."
@themr_wilson
@themr_wilson 3 месяца назад
@@KarmaSpaz12 banger opening line
@galfisk
@galfisk 3 месяца назад
Sounds like something out of The Murderbot Diaries, except it does get shot in everything quite a lot.
@Migsterium
@Migsterium 3 месяца назад
I call this “The Troll Grab”. A gargantuan creature/antagonist grabs the hero, immobilizing them, but instead of killing them, the Troll simply toss them around, dealing little to no damage.
@sidequestingwithtimberfox1263
@sidequestingwithtimberfox1263 3 месяца назад
Supernatural would have ended after a few episodes of it wasn’t for this trope.
@friendlyreaper9012
@friendlyreaper9012 3 месяца назад
And when they grab a side character, they snap their neck instantly.
@razorback9999able
@razorback9999able 3 месяца назад
It's sometimes a necessary evil, if that never happens, then the rest of the plot that was outlined before it happens *will never happen.*
@SpikeJet2736
@SpikeJet2736 2 месяца назад
@@razorback9999able I don't really agree, you can get around it. The Terminator for instance did a great job at this. How do Kyle and Sarah survive as long as they do? By staying as far away from The Terminator as possible and SPOILERS when Kyle does finally confront The Terminator, he gets killed. Predator also made this work and it even added some character, the only reason the Predator didn't kill Dutch right away when he grabbed him was because he saw that Dutch put up a good fight and was a worthy warrior and that's when he takes off his gear and they fight sportsman like
@MrDeldris
@MrDeldris 2 месяца назад
​@@razorback9999able Yeah, that's why it's bad writing.
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 3 месяца назад
Surprised you had a list of action cliches that didn't involve henchmen refusing to exploit numerical superiority in favor of attacking the good guys one or two at a time.
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 3 месяца назад
Reminds me of Assassin's Creed guards, which is how I write my action scenes
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
It was a strong contender for the list
@Yearofthebows24
@Yearofthebows24 3 месяца назад
Best piece of advice I got for getting better at RTS games was you want to build your army before you attack, not send in your troops one at a time like henchmen in a terrible action film
@AnujChatterjee-q5b
@AnujChatterjee-q5b 3 месяца назад
Since we brought out henchmen I will take a "good example" from Sony's Venom. When Venom gets attacked by the SWAT police we see the SWAT troopers adapting their tactics while fighting venom instead of just shooting bullets. They try thermal imaging and flash grenades that do give Venom a hard time but they are no match for him. Still it was good to see competent police officers fight the antihero instead of foolish officers who are there to get defeated by the character. They aren't really villain henchmen but still close enough.
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 3 месяца назад
@@Yearofthebows24 That's generally sound advice, although you'll also want to continue streaming in extra units after the fight is joined. And although even then it'd be sound in theory to wait until you've got a good group of reinforcements and send them to the front in force, in practice it's more important to micro the army that's already fighting and just stream replacements in as they're produced.
@dawidwidera1819
@dawidwidera1819 3 месяца назад
Inconsistent damage? LIGHTSABERS. Qui Gon-Jhin dies to 1 stab in stomach. Now? Lightsabers doesn't even cut of limbs. Wounds are easily healed.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Qui Gon dies from a single stab; Maul survives being chopped in half along the waist.
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 3 месяца назад
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty Forget the Force - fanboy armies are the real plot armor in Star Wars. Just ask Boba Fett.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 3 месяца назад
You know, the Force scissors hard in "The Alcoholic".
@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674
@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674 3 месяца назад
Because qui gon was stabbed in a major organ and there wasn’t enough time to get him medical attention
@PaulRWorthington
@PaulRWorthington 3 месяца назад
Someone must've edited together a supercut of Star Wars - lightsaber damage, then and now: Jhin, Maul, and Anakin in ep1-3 vs whatshername in Obiwan getting gutted and then only slightly sore in the next ep, and other egregious idiotic downplays of lightsaber damage.
@Watchful049
@Watchful049 3 месяца назад
The most annoying cliché that takes me out of any fight scene is the hero toss. Its when a big strong dude or strong monster grabs the hero and tosses them instead of strangling or crushing the hero. Usually, the toss gives the hero some breathing room to prepare something to defeat the monster. I remember in Terminator Salvation, one of the Terminators kept grabbing and tossing someone instead of snapping them like a twig. In beginning of Terminator 1, the T800 punched a guy and its fist went right through the guy's heart. The T800 never got close enough to grab to Kyle or Sarah because the film established that the T800 can crush any human like a twig if its close enough.
@pizzaface9213
@pizzaface9213 3 месяца назад
A channel called Hyperdrive did a video about that. He calls it 'The Protagonist Throw'.
@pickleballer1729
@pickleballer1729 3 месяца назад
Well spotted. The other side of the hero toss is the fact that the hero gets tossed 20 feet across the room and smashes into a brick wall or gets thrown from a 3 story building and then gets up like nothing happened at all.
@lanychabot-laroche135
@lanychabot-laroche135 3 месяца назад
I remember that scene. One toss was silly, but they just kept going and going. Same thing in Rings of Power, the orc sneaks up on the black elf, and instead of a quick kill from behind proceeds to toss him around until help comes.
@biteyalmighty7874
@biteyalmighty7874 3 месяца назад
This has ALWAYS bothered me. Another similar issue I have: Let's say The Hulk grabs a car by its' roof and flings it at a monster. 1. If you have the strength to toss cars around, just go hit the damn monster. 2. If you're applying enough force to a cars' roof to throw it 100ft away, the roof would simply rip apart. Imagine you have a little plastic bucket at the beach. You fill it with sand, then try to throw the bucket onto your roof. Not gunna happen. That flimsy little plastic handle would just snap off if you tried to use it to throw 10lbs of sand. They just want something that looks cool. Doesn't matter if it makes sense.
@blackhammer5035
@blackhammer5035 3 месяца назад
We used to call this the Luchador effect. Something that’s supposed to be life-or-death fight narratively plays out like an amateur wrestling show. Luchadores are telling a dramatic narrative through the wrestling; Terminator has no such excuse.
@jamesmecham4266
@jamesmecham4266 3 месяца назад
Worst action cliches: Supposed competent characters reacting incompetently.
@AlmostEthical
@AlmostEthical 3 месяца назад
Yes, especially astronauts. Astronauts are the smartest, most calm, professional, stoic and focused humans, which is how they got the job. Compare that with the hysterical "Keystone Kops" astronauts in Prometheus and Alien Covenant.
@marcusstewart4141
@marcusstewart4141 3 месяца назад
I *HATE* that!! 😤😡🤬
@siegfriedmordrake3229
@siegfriedmordrake3229 3 месяца назад
That's not reserved to action scenes, though
@juliegolick
@juliegolick 3 месяца назад
Especially when those characters are women but the plot needs them to be rescued
@agrupnia
@agrupnia 3 месяца назад
Are y'all talking about Other M?
@kit888
@kit888 3 месяца назад
Hero walking away from explosion without ducking for cover.
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon 3 месяца назад
Cool guys don't worry about shrapnel damage.
@giandomenicomartorelli8069
@giandomenicomartorelli8069 3 месяца назад
"It's a crime against worldbuilding". Well said Brandon!
@Redeye308350
@Redeye308350 3 месяца назад
Deliberately shooting someone in the leg as a non lethal takedown. In reality a leg wound can be fatal if it hits an artery, or require amputation if it shatters a bone. It's a super serious thing that movies treat like an inconvenience.
@FruitMeate
@FruitMeate 3 месяца назад
Another variant of that: getting shot and then moving around like it's fully healed after just a few minutes.
@Raycheetah
@Raycheetah 3 месяца назад
Or the much older "shoulder shot," which, depending on the placement, could cripple or even kill the target (by damaging the subclavian artery). =9[.]9=
@c704710
@c704710 3 месяца назад
Subverted in Netflix' Godless. A woman shoots a man in the leg and he whines that he's gonna die. Another woman who witnessed the shooting casualy informs him he wont die quickly because the bullet passed clean through with hitting bone or anthing important. Days later he can only hobble along even in a life and death situation. He can't rush to save his woman. Yes, the woman intentionally only wounded him, at close range, and he just stood there like an idiot instead of avoiding
@herculesbrofister265
@herculesbrofister265 Месяц назад
It's also illegal to do intentionally, even in a self defense situation.
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 Месяц назад
In the movie "Quigley Down Under" Quigley (Tom Selleck) shoots a bad guy in the leg with his Shiloh Sharps. It's a 45 caliber bullet with 110 grains of black powder in a 34 inch barrel. Quigley shot a goon in the leg at point blank range and the guy lives, and rode his horse for 3-4 days to warm his boss. In real life, the guy wouldn't have been able to stand afterward and if he lived, he would have needed to have his leg amputated immediately.
@johnhughes2653
@johnhughes2653 3 месяца назад
Cars doing stunts that would wreck them, yet still being perfectly driveable straight after.
@danielshults5243
@danielshults5243 3 месяца назад
If it makes you feel better about the Alien films, perhaps we can assume that the face huggers have much more potent blood than the adult xenomorphs.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
It’s not a bad theory
@Xobik1
@Xobik1 3 месяца назад
This one won a debate cup in the school
@doormatt72
@doormatt72 3 месяца назад
Except in alien resurrection when the aliens kill each other to melt through the levels with their acid blood. A decent theory for the first couple alien movies, maybe. But resurrection kind of ends the theory there.
@danielshults5243
@danielshults5243 3 месяца назад
@@doormatt72 Fair enough, but things go off the rails after the first 2 or 3 movies either way.
@ThomasRodacker
@ThomasRodacker 3 месяца назад
​@@doormatt72 Maybe it could be like a controlled defense system where they can put acid into their system so that other creatures would know they are harmful to eat. You could say that most aliens don't put in either enough acid into their system before being killed or were taken by such surprise that they couldn't even do it. Maybe the Facehuggers - I think that what they are called, I never seen the Alien movies before and that's what Brandon called them I think - have acid in their system all the time to protect them when they are young and as they become adults, the system becomes weaker and doesn't fill the whole body, but they can still do it if they need to.
@577zkerr
@577zkerr 3 месяца назад
Gun suppressors are not silent. Shoulder shots don't kill, quickly at least. Explosive devices are almost always laughably unrealistic.
@friendlyreaper9012
@friendlyreaper9012 3 месяца назад
Yup, especially grenades, for some reason they explode like napalm. Also when it comes to shoulder shots I always hated how they are either lethal or when someone just shrugs it off. It won't kill you obviously but you definitely won't be using that arm anymore lol.
@dippy147
@dippy147 3 месяца назад
for me it's when people shoot and shoot and shoot and shoot and _never reload!_
@erakfishfishfish
@erakfishfishfish 3 месяца назад
They only run out when they have a clean shot at the villain.
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 3 месяца назад
You actually don't see that one as much anymore.
@dippy147
@dippy147 3 месяца назад
@@erakfishfishfish ooooh yeah
@dippy147
@dippy147 3 месяца назад
@@NelsonStJames ye that one is sort of an older trope
@lightmodesupremacy7321
@lightmodesupremacy7321 2 месяца назад
its mostly done now as spectacle or to poke fun at movie tropes. ex: skurge firing his duel m16's in thro ragnarok. i mean he did technically run out eventually
@Achieme
@Achieme 3 месяца назад
For me is when character(s) are in a gun fight killing other people with guns and when they're out of ammo they dont use the dead people's gun. Or when its 20 vs 1 gun and the 20 people dont jump the 1 guy and or just stand and wait while the others get beat up as if theyre waiting their turn
@martinantab3520
@martinantab3520 3 месяца назад
I think it's because there is a huge chance you can hit your ally instead of the guy and the place would be immediatelly filled with other people so in reality you can't hit.
@Achieme
@Achieme 3 месяца назад
@@martinantab3520 I can understand that but it's not like they're doing kung fu moves and care about each other that much their main objective is to either kill or beat the crap out of the guy, and I seen plenty of instances where they accidentally hit or kill their ally but they continue to go after the 1 dude. And are you telling me that all those guys can't swarm and overwhelm him like a pack of wolves
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 3 месяца назад
Or when the bad guy has a gun, but the hero decided to run at him screaming with a melee weapon, so the bad guy decides he should run while screaming at the hero as well.
@elanthys
@elanthys 3 месяца назад
There’s the hilarious end of the bar fight scene in Desperado (1995) where at the end it’s only down to Mariachi and one bad guy, and they run out of ammo, so they both grab one of the guns lying around. Out of ammo too. So they grab _another_ gun lying around. Out of ammo too. Their reactions and both scrambling to find at least one gun with one bullet inside bring comedy without unraveling the tension of the fight, the joke is already funny as a concept but it relies on good execution, and the execution is brilliant.
@Achieme
@Achieme 3 месяца назад
@@elanthys ok I gotta watch that
@cristinawilligs
@cristinawilligs 3 месяца назад
the petite woman beating up a man twice her size, the character walking by with an explosion on the back
@le_fancy_squid
@le_fancy_squid 3 месяца назад
You don't understand...he may have been fifteen time stronger than her and one punch could kill a fully grown rhino, but she was fast and clever!
@cristinawilligs
@cristinawilligs 3 месяца назад
@@le_fancy_squid that is not what we see in movies, when they coreogrph fights it is like equals is not like the woman outsmarted the man and that is tiresome, , it was great like 5 years ago, now it is overused and exhausted
@le_fancy_squid
@le_fancy_squid 3 месяца назад
@@cristinawilligs Yeah you know, I said that as a joke, but after I read your comment I thought about it and they do make them equals, huh? I mean, I hate the 'fast and clever' cliche, but at least it has some sort of an explanation; you are right though, when they treat them as equals it totally kills the immersion.
@cristinawilligs
@cristinawilligs 3 месяца назад
@@le_fancy_squid sorry, i can't tel if it is sarcasm just by reading, there are too many weirdos (feminists, soyboys) who say they like that cliche because it is politically correct
@le_fancy_squid
@le_fancy_squid 3 месяца назад
@@cristinawilligs Oh no worries, I get that. Sorry, I should have made it more obvious in my first comment. Yeah I was being completely sarcastic here, because this is a cliche I hate. There are plenty of ways to make a female win a fight against a man and make it believable, yet the methods Holloywood will pick just so often feel disheartening...
@leyenda6149
@leyenda6149 3 месяца назад
I hate it when an enemy is very powerful, then they nerf his power set or make him make stupid decisions just to give the actor lines or to draw out the fight
@don_v2
@don_v2 3 месяца назад
My least favorite action cliche is when characters are absurdly good and skilled at fighting without any reason other than “he’s just a badass”. Watching some skinny teenager slip a 4 hit combo from a boxer when he has no training at all takes me right out of the film. There has to be SOME reason why they can fight the way they do.
@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674
@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674 3 месяца назад
What movie are you referring to?
@don_v2
@don_v2 3 месяца назад
@@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674 the example is from Beastars. Years after watching I still can’t stop thinking about how ridiculous it was.
@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674
@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674 3 месяца назад
@@don_v2 never watched that anime
@don_v2
@don_v2 3 месяца назад
@@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674 here’s the clip. Doesn’t make sense in context either so there’s no point in explaining it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U5jumvjEGy8.htmlsi=IdBEf2aR66L5uSZT
@friendlyreaper9012
@friendlyreaper9012 3 месяца назад
It's usually explained by "ex cop" or "veteran"because that gives you superpowers obviously
@smajet5640
@smajet5640 3 месяца назад
The worst one for me is probably how they deal with death, deciding that killing bad guys is OK or not based on what the plot dictates at the moment. This can include killing the bad guy being somehow too far after doing a lot of killing or certain characters being treated as bad for killing when other characters get a pass.
@erakfishfishfish
@erakfishfishfish 3 месяца назад
I like how Casino Royale handled Vesper killing a henchman. Even though she did it to save Bond, she was clearly traumatized by it.
@Sweet_Cheeks
@Sweet_Cheeks 3 месяца назад
Hanging over certain death by fingertips
@ADAPTATION7
@ADAPTATION7 3 месяца назад
Bonafide rock climbers can do that, but they need very strong tendons to do so that require years of conditioning.
@mccama19
@mccama19 3 дня назад
Oh yeah, that's actually pretty real. I've slipped while hiking and nearly fallen down a cliff before and had to hold on for dear life. I'm not a pro rock climber or anything, but it's amazing how strong your grip can get when you are royally freaking out! Of course, it's not like I was okay afterwards. I was holding onto the rocks so hard I actually injured my hands. My poor friend that I was hiking with that pulled me back up, I accidentally put really bad bruises all over their hands and wrists where I grabbed on.
@S85B50Engine
@S85B50Engine 3 месяца назад
Lightsabers are probably the worst offender in the inconsistency category, people dying from a single stab, but then others shrugging it off like it's nothing
@grizzly_manbanimation8436
@grizzly_manbanimation8436 3 месяца назад
Example?
@S85B50Engine
@S85B50Engine 3 месяца назад
@@grizzly_manbanimation8436 Kenobi show... It happens TWICE. Ahsoka show, Shin goes for the kill, stabs Sabine and she shrugs it off. But Qui Gon dies from the same type of attack.
@grizzly_manbanimation8436
@grizzly_manbanimation8436 3 месяца назад
@@S85B50Engine ah, I haven’t seen those shows so I wouldn’t know. I love Star Wars, but I kinda stopped getting into it after the sequel trilogy.
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 3 месяца назад
To be fair, The Father shrugging off a lightsaber makes sense.
@S85B50Engine
@S85B50Engine 3 месяца назад
@@wakkaseta8351 we are talking about Sabine, Reva and The Grand Inquisitor
@dansmith5524
@dansmith5524 3 месяца назад
The "Boss Battle." The hero can take out dozens of henchmen with a single shot/punch/kick/stab each but the boss villan requires a 15 minute epic battle where the hero is almost defeated 5 times before he finally takes out the boss. For extra credit, have the boss villan monologue a bunch during the epic battle. That probably describes the ending of at least 2/3 of all action movies.
@themr_wilson
@themr_wilson 3 месяца назад
That's exactly what sports entertainment does!
@halofornoobs93
@halofornoobs93 Месяц назад
This only bothers me when it is done poorly. There are plenty of "boss battle" style confrontations that are really great.
@theguybehindyou4762
@theguybehindyou4762 Месяц назад
As goofy as Goldeneye was, they handled that trope perfectly, because the hero and villain were both elite operatives who had a strong bond before the film's start, while the lesser henchmen were just paid goons. Even the obligatory boss bitch sent to kill Bond was nowhere near his former partner's level in skill.
@LordKalte
@LordKalte 3 месяца назад
You avoided the cliché of mentionning Michael Bay when talking about goofy explosion!
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Hahaha!
@theguybehindyou4762
@theguybehindyou4762 Месяц назад
I recall a skit where Michael Bay directs a Yugioh film. The protagonist is played by Shia, and there are massive explosions every couple of scenes, for no apparent reason.
@4bedStudios
@4bedStudios 3 месяца назад
Your videos have helped my writing improve heavily from sporadic events to connected stuff
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Thrilled to hear it. Thanks for watching!
@LordBaktor
@LordBaktor 3 месяца назад
Inconsistent damage: Lightsabers. You would think a weapon that can melt through thick steel doors would explode the insides of anyone who got stabbed in the gut by it, but there is now more than one character that has survived such a thing.
@VincentStevenStudio
@VincentStevenStudio 3 месяца назад
When the hero gets shot at with a barrage of bullets, but not a single one hits them as long as they duck and run. I dont even last 5 seconds in a paintball match. But in movies, the hero never gets a scratch.
@Devil-Made
@Devil-Made Месяц назад
“I don’t even last five seconds in a paintball match…” Well said, my friend. Well said.
@gloriafernandes276
@gloriafernandes276 3 месяца назад
Action scenes that are over-the-top are effective if done for comedic purposes like the climatic chase scene in the Blues Brothers. The hundreds of Chicago police cars, SWAT, and even the Nazis and everyone else and his mother chasing the Blues Brothers is a laugh out riot! 😂
@stevensandersauthor
@stevensandersauthor 3 месяца назад
Excellent, especially the unnecessary explosions. One action cliche I hate is when the hero is fighting multiple bad guys, but they each wait their turn to attack instead of working together or attacking when the hero’s back is turned.
@lotharrenz4621
@lotharrenz4621 3 месяца назад
One genre where I can accept this is asian martial arts. often they are not trained to fight in teams, so they wait out because each one wants to be the one who bests the opponent, for bragging rights. otherwise 4-5 fighters would stand more than a chance even against Bruce Lee.
@intergalactic92
@intergalactic92 3 месяца назад
Playing devil's advocate (bear in mind I am not an expert on this series): my understanding of Alien is that the Face Hugger is a completely different stage of the creatures life cycle, and the "creation" of the adult xenomorph is a significant metamorphosis. It’s not unreasonable for acidic blood, as part of the transformation the acidic blood could lose its potency. And this is without even taking into account the fact it’s not a direct metamorphosis, it’s an embryo that is injected into a host that takes on some of the dna of the host.
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 3 месяца назад
What has my eyes rolling often is when the hero cornered, the villain pulls a gun at them, then we hear a shot, and after few seconds of suspension the villain collapses, revealing a side character behind them with a gun.
@KILLERMANGO-mi1cx
@KILLERMANGO-mi1cx 3 месяца назад
Another trope that I find annoying is the "cool but non life threatening Injures" trope In so many stories, the characters will only ever get shot in the arms, legs, and shoulders. As the torso Is only shot when killing a character or faking a character death. If they are fighting with swords, someone will conviently get a cool scar on their face. Characters will lose an eye and get a cool eye patch, but that will never imper them in any way
@dariusdaguerre3535
@dariusdaguerre3535 3 месяца назад
Several bad guys using machine guns deliver a hail of bullets but dont manage to hit the hero.
@elanthys
@elanthys 3 месяца назад
/Commando (1985) entered the chat/
@IAmTheEagleHTM
@IAmTheEagleHTM 3 месяца назад
"Now, I don't get shot in the head very often, but I'd expect the bullets to have more stopping power than the empty gun" Lmao good one
@TrueMithrandir
@TrueMithrandir 3 месяца назад
And the worst of the worst, knocking or incapacitating the villain or horror monster but never making sure they are completely DEAD, when this happens we all know the villain will get back up one more time to the surprise of the nitwited protagonist.
@mattcavanaugh6082
@mattcavanaugh6082 3 месяца назад
Gunshot wound where the character essentially walks it off instead of bleeding out.
@GhostRider6489
@GhostRider6489 3 месяца назад
Punching through or getting thrown through solid glass and barely sustaining damage
@lotharrenz4621
@lotharrenz4621 3 месяца назад
I want to see someone bounce back from the glass pane because it's a security glass in the wall of a skyscraper... "Gee, I really thought you'd smash right through the glass!" "This ain't hollywood... owch."
@Devil-Made
@Devil-Made Месяц назад
I was just gonna say, doesn’t this happen in the Nice Guys? God that movie is great for all these reasons. It shows the realism behind these cliches, and it’s what makes the movie so damn funny!
@halofornoobs93
@halofornoobs93 Месяц назад
To be fair, it depends on the glass. I've seen a lot of glass break, especially tables and whatever they use doesn't tend to fracture into sharp shards. Same with car windows and glass décor you find in buildings. It seems to mostly be older glass windows that turn into death shards. That said, I do find it goofy when glass shards fall onto people or are launched at people and they do literally nothing.
@basartuncel
@basartuncel 3 месяца назад
I think one of the worst action clichés is that "the dead guys just disappear". The best example: John Wick 4 Stair Scene (if not all of it)
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
As a gamer, I’m used to this, but you’ve got a great point. Disappearing bodies (or lack of consequences for leaving bodies behind) is a problem that too often gets swept under the rug
@jacobb.9181
@jacobb.9181 3 месяца назад
that's more of a technical mistake than a writing cliche
@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.
@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou. 3 месяца назад
Nah. That's just the matrix optimizing itself.
@basartuncel
@basartuncel 3 месяца назад
@@jacobb.9181good point. I agree.
@interestedparty497
@interestedparty497 3 месяца назад
Clearly, dead enemies despawn to save on memory.
@ihavespoken9871
@ihavespoken9871 3 месяца назад
What makes the scene from Jurassic Park: The Lost World even funnier is the fact that the raptor reacted to the “Hey you!”
@mmonurdz9456
@mmonurdz9456 3 месяца назад
My most hated action cliché is miraculous healing, where the (supposedly) normal person takes catastrophic wounds yet shrugs them off. For instance: In 'Starship Troopers' Denise Richards is impaled through her shoulder by an arachnid. Instead of bleeding to death in seconds, she shrugs it off. In 'The Losers' one of the characters is shot point blank in both legs, but by the end of the scene he's walking normally The absolute worst was in 'Rambo 3', When he cauterizes a wound by igniting gunpowder from a bullet in the wound.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 3 месяца назад
The force applied to the target by a bullet is equal to the recoil of the gun, minus the air-resistance on the bullet. Have you ever shot a pistol? Most have a very gentle recoil that does not hurt at all. The reason that bullets are deadly is that they penetrate. If you are wearing a helmet with an outer layer so hard that bullets bounce off it, then the amount of energy transferred to the head is small, largely because bullets are not very big and heavy, On the other hand, being smashed in the head with a medieval weapon by a big man is a different matter. The helmet will still guard you against penetration, but the massive impact can still knock you senseless. Throw a sewing needle point-first at a balloon and the balloon bursts on the spot. If the balloon is needle-proof, then throwing a pin at it will do very little, but punching the balloon will send it across the room.
@TB-sq1um
@TB-sq1um 3 месяца назад
How would you... holy crap it's lindybeige! Yeah, ok, you'd know. Pretty cool to see some of my favourite RU-vidrs following each other.
@TB-sq1um
@TB-sq1um 3 месяца назад
Since you're on here I'll say my pet peeve regarding zombie movies... spears! Why aren't they using spears? Get a spear, climb a tree, Bob's your uncle!
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 3 месяца назад
@@TB-sq1um Tradition demands fire axe, American rounder bat, and chainsaw. these all require getting too close. A halberd might be ideal.
@Pegasuz1233
@Pegasuz1233 3 месяца назад
Throwing a pistol and nunchaku swings shouldn't do much against the guys wearing bulletproof helmet either, but yes he could've grab a mace in the japanese exhibition he's fighting in like the kanabo, but action movie demands he use nunchaku because cool bruce lee moment
@FruitMeate
@FruitMeate 3 месяца назад
Two different times in this video, an example from The Force Awakens popped into my head. 1. Meaningless mass destruction -- 7 or so densely populated planets blow up, and not single character is devastated by the loss of life. 2. Inconsistent damage -- Whenever the Unnecessary Monster on Han Solo's freighter grabs a person, it eats that person immediately unless it's a main character.
@briansanders8122
@briansanders8122 3 месяца назад
I think it's safe to say only the Meaningless Mass Destruction and Inconsistent Damage are actual writing problems. The other three are pretty much staples of action movies.
@dlobom
@dlobom 3 месяца назад
The neck snap, when convenient necks are made of straw
@torytellstales
@torytellstales 3 месяца назад
My biggest cliche has to do with the survivors in a zombie apocalypse story walking around with plenty of ammo and guns but absolutely NO ONE has a bite blocking foam piece, blocking pad, or arm guard! Blocking pads would be the first "weapons" I'd make sure to have in a zombie apocalypse, because if you're a terrible shoot(which lots of people realistically would be, because zombies are moving objects), you can at least block yourself from getting bitten, and probably prevent at least one zombie from making noise to alert others
@elanthys
@elanthys 3 месяца назад
I'd totally watch a zombie show where everyone is in guard dog training gear xD
@torytellstales
@torytellstales 3 месяца назад
@elanthys This reason is because I used to deal with people with mental disabilities and behavioral disorders who could attack you on a daily basis, and so blocking pads in case of biting were mandatory, so I technically have real life experience on how to protect yourself from a "zombie" I guess lol.
@jcohasset23
@jcohasset23 2 месяца назад
@@torytellstales It is rather laughable in zombie apocalypse movies that usually no one is wearing any kind of protective gear. Human teeth are not really great at biting through things so any kind of decently thick clothing like a leather jacket, denim clothing, gloves, and some kind of decent headgear is going to provide adequate protection unless you get overwhelmed and even then it may take a few moments before they find any weak points. Zombie movies, shows, and games can be fun though it does require hand-waving the fact that in most of them the zombies magically seem to be immune to needing food and water, protection from the elements, and injury doesn't seem to affect them.
@torytellstales
@torytellstales 2 месяца назад
@jcohasset23 Another interesting thing I've noticed about these zombie movies too, never once have I seen when someone gets grabbed by a zombie, do they ever think to take off the piece of clothing that's being grabbed at like a jacket or loose shirt. When I used to get grabbed at by my guys I dealt with, I always wore a loose hoodie and always removed it so I could get away. I literally took off a shirt by accident with my hoodie before to get away lol.
@troyfrink
@troyfrink 3 месяца назад
For me it’s defying the laws of physics like the bus jumping the freeway gap in Speed or any Fast and/or Furious movie.
@Stephen_The_Waxing_Lyricist
@Stephen_The_Waxing_Lyricist 3 месяца назад
Why do fights almost always start with the two leaping into the air at each other? Sure, it looks good on the trailer, but ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!
@chriswest8389
@chriswest8389 3 месяца назад
The trailer for ‘ Five Fingers of Death’- spectacular. Two k.F masters square off and jump like 10 ft in the air without touching each other, effectively exchanging places in the process. Form yeah, function no. Never did see the film.
@Romaine_Letttuce
@Romaine_Letttuce 3 месяца назад
i wanna see a movie where it looks like this is going to happen but right as one person jumps the other just hauls ass in the opposite direction leaving the jumper stumbling to the ground confused
@rottenpotato4733
@rottenpotato4733 3 месяца назад
Inconsistent damage is the one I hate the most. Other cliches you can argue that the story is not supposed to be realistic, but rather have an internal world cohesion that is different from our world. But inconsistent damage is the story admiting to you that it doesn't have any cohesion within itself. One story where this is shown in a horrible way is the One Piece anime/manga. They have lots of unrealistic stuff that make sense within the frame of that world, which mantains your suspension of disbelief, but damage just straight up makes me angry. It's almost ever just a bruise that makes characters cough a little blood and lose conscience (even if they were sliced by people who can cut ships in half, or detonated a island-detroying bomb), but then it becomes meaningful just because the plot demands it. It's like: everyone has plot armor except on the rare cases in which they don't (usually it's reserved for flashbacks). And the worst part is that the fanbase is so self-absorbed and cultlike that they bash you for pointing out the shortcomings of an otherwise great story, as if their god-author is devoid of any flaws just because occasionally he pulls off a 10+ years foreshadowed payoff. Don't get me wrong, it's well written in many ways. But it's badly written in just as many and we're supposed to pretend it's always perfect because of a toxic homogenous fanbase (I've been reading it for literally more than 20 years so I won't let these people tell me I can't have my own opinion.)
@hammrshark9881
@hammrshark9881 3 месяца назад
Hi! You've touched upon it in a previous video, but one action trope that drives me bananas is: The villain is very competent and threatening, until he's not. I can't stand this. The villain is suddenly ineffective because the story needs him to be. Another similar one I have is when injuries appear to be severe, until they're not. You see the hero agonizing on the ground, and a few sequences later, they're totally fine, fighting like nothing even happened. If some sort of healing happens, it's not so bad, but if the hero just "gets better" from an injury that was established to be quite severe, that's just incredibly silly to me. Number 1's twin brother, "the villains can't aim, or they can only aim when not targeting the main heroes", is also pretty distracting.
@jesusromanpadro3853
@jesusromanpadro3853 3 месяца назад
"Now, I dont get shoot in the head very often...". Wait, what? 😅
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Hahah I try not to make it a habit
@silvercord2694
@silvercord2694 3 месяца назад
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty That's a healthy habit indeed.
@themealena817
@themealena817 3 месяца назад
The worst for me is when foes are taking turn in the battle and are coming at hand when they have a gun and could have killed the hero with a bullet in the back of his head long ago.
@ElliYeetYT
@ElliYeetYT 3 месяца назад
I guess you could say thatJohn Wick was killing enemies at that point with quite Literal Plot Armour hehheheh. If anything though I liked how his cannon fodder opponents got more challenging with each movie.
@Jurgan6
@Jurgan6 3 месяца назад
I’ve always hated how bullets disintegrate when they exit the screen. Heroes and villains fire thousands of rounds in a crowded area, you’d expect the bullets to keep going and hit a lot of bystanders, but that rarely happens.
@adam7280
@adam7280 3 месяца назад
the rooftop chase scene in Johnny English Reborn is essentially one big long joke about the unnecessary stunts trope!
@danguillou713
@danguillou713 3 месяца назад
OMG I hate that stunt in Jurassic World so much. So so much. My least favourite action cliche is when numerous monsters are less deadly than a single one. First they introduce the raptor, werewolf, arachnid or whatever, and they make a big show of how hard it is to deal with. Then they introduce a whole pack of the things… DUN-DUN-DUH! But what do you know, suddenly a side character can kill it with a convenient throwing knife. It always takes me out of the story. In my head three raptors should be exponentially worse than a single one, because they use team play. Anyway, good video man. Cheers
@Orkwar
@Orkwar 3 месяца назад
1) Throw instead kill 2) No damage after throw 3) Offscrean teleportation
@stgr6669
@stgr6669 3 месяца назад
I hate it when a single bullet makes nameless characters instantly drop dead, while major characters can at least do or say something before they die. If they die at all, as they often can shake off the effects of multiple gunshots, limp for a moment and are perfectly fine soon after.
@melissajill6174
@melissajill6174 2 месяца назад
Yeah--I recently finished a book that turned into a hate-read ... it was really badly written overall, but for the purposes of the theme of this video: the characters were using swords and bow & arrow for weapons, and in the battle toward the end, one character (who was just a few weeks post broken collarbone) was sniping with her bow from a 6-story tower into melee combat and insta-killed every target she hit and never hit an incorrect target.
@MajoradeMayhem
@MajoradeMayhem 27 дней назад
There are a lot of writing advice channels on RU-vid. Yours is the one that's ACTUALLY GOOD. Bravo sir.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 27 дней назад
Wow, thank you! Glad the videos are helping
@MajoradeMayhem
@MajoradeMayhem 25 дней назад
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty I've been watching a lot of your vids while I recover from surgery. The way you use examples is excellent. You also structure your videos really well. Plus you actually make good points, of course! I also appreciate that you keep your plugs short. The quality of your vids advertises your work better than any ten minute advert.
@fje6902
@fje6902 3 месяца назад
My worst action cliche is when the protagonist fires a gun and misses at point blank range, especially after hitting targets from great distances.
@thenameisnav
@thenameisnav 3 месяца назад
The second cliche reminds me of the opening scene from Spectre, like James you're supposed to kill like three guys bruh instead caused a whole ass collateral damage
@kdmccrite
@kdmccrite 3 месяца назад
I'm not sure this qualifies as an action cliché, but it's a cop show cliché, for sure. A cop or two are looking for the bad guy on a busy city street. They see him at least a block away. Instead of going after him without drawing his attention too soon, one of them yells, "Police! Freeze" which alerts Mr. Baddie of their presence and of the fact that they are nowhere close enough to get him. So he runs, and we have the same ol' chase again -- alleys, trash cans, cabs, old ladies with shopping bags, fire escapes, and usually some gate, wall, or fence, at which point they lose him. Or not. Ho hum.
@remus4283
@remus4283 3 месяца назад
Surviving an explosion as long as you avoid the fireball. Shrapnel, air pressure and heat are generally ignored. No damage to the eyes or ears other than blinking a few times while hearing a ringing noise for a few seconds.
@Nerdrakere
@Nerdrakere 3 месяца назад
Maybe do masked characters next? Both characters physically masked, and others using identities where you later learn who they are or they are wearing a metaphorical “mask”
@mattt2277
@mattt2277 3 месяца назад
Watching sword fights of any kind and they aren't actually trying to hit each other. So many fights have combatants just hitting each other's blades, not actually trying to hit the other person
@DarinMcGrew
@DarinMcGrew 3 месяца назад
Related to that is when characters use a sword is though it were a completely different sword. The most common example is using a light foil or epee as though it were a heavy broadsword.
@Josh_Quillan
@Josh_Quillan 3 месяца назад
There is a grain of sense to that. If you focus on disarming your opponent actually killing them will be trivial, and there is a chance you could shame them into surrendering rather than having to kill them. I think it depends greatly on whether the situation is something like a duel where there's no other threat vs. a battle where killing the opponent quickly, before someone else kills you, is the objective. But this is a real problem especially in older films, before the majority of audiences became aware of how sword-fighting works.
@lennysmileyface
@lennysmileyface 2 месяца назад
@@Josh_Quillan Sure but they aren't trying to parry the blade usually they are just swinging at the enemy sword all the time. Trying to actively disarm someone seems like a pretty dumb idea when you would be missing a bunch of openings for counterattacks since it would be very hard to do.
@TheManFromWaco
@TheManFromWaco 3 месяца назад
Related to variable damage output, but “Competency As The Plot Demands” - when a character’s combat skills are subject to the demands of the story. I see this so many times in old Cowboy movies. In the middle of the story just a couple of guys can trash the hero in a saloon brawl, but come the finale and suddenly our protagonist is fist-fighting 10 men as easily as if he were Mike Tyson set loose against a middle school karate club.
@RecklessDeck
@RecklessDeck 3 месяца назад
Hated action cliche: Hollywood's absurd idea of how much punishment the human body can take. Most fights from movies would send people to the emergency room, and/or give them scars or damage they would have to contend with for the rest of their lives. And also, how much punishment it can take and still manage to look beautiful. There are so many examples of this, but one that comes to mind is BLACK WIDOW. She broke her own nose against that desk, but still looks great. She should have finished that movie with two massive black eyes and a nose that needed a year or two of reconstructive surgery. Plus, let's not forget the NERVE DAMAGE TO HER FACE, which was the whole point of breaking her nose in the first place.
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 3 месяца назад
Look up "beauty is never tarnished" on TV Tropes
@lordsnooggums1621
@lordsnooggums1621 3 месяца назад
What about when she fell like 3 stories onto the edge of something in a way that should break her spine, hit the ground and groaned for a second or two, and then just moved on like it was nothing. Did she get super serum between movies?
@erakfishfishfish
@erakfishfishfish 3 месяца назад
Don’t forget how many times people in movies get knocked out by a blow to the head, but don’t suffer a concussion. They wake up like nothing happened. In reality, by the end of the Back to the Future trilogy, Marty would have the worst case of CTE.
@aaronstark5060
@aaronstark5060 3 месяца назад
The John Wick movies were a huge offender on this. By the fourth movie, I don’t know how every single bone in his body wasn’t shattered and his insides turned to mush.
@erakfishfishfish
@erakfishfishfish 3 месяца назад
@@aaronstark5060 honestly, in John Wick’s reality, the only things I struggled to suspend disbelief for were him somehow running from Central Park to Chinatown in under 5 minutes and him surviving falling off the top of a skyscraper.
@ThomasPalm-w5y
@ThomasPalm-w5y 3 месяца назад
Villains always putting a countdown display on their bomb, and it is always disarmed at most one second before detonating.
@stevenr.2534
@stevenr.2534 3 месяца назад
7 seconds if it’s a James Bond movie 😊
@elanthys
@elanthys 3 месяца назад
Galaxy Quest subverts the countdown cliché so freaking well: the count stops by itself at 2 and the explanation is “oh well we never reached zero in the show so they built the timer like that” 😂😂😂
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan 3 месяца назад
I just accept the bad action cliche's at this point. Realism cannot seem to be avoided even in the best scenes, movies, books, ettc. How, and when they are used, as well as if it's intentional or not makes them all ring better rather than silly at the end of the day.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
One thing I forgot to mention in this video is suspension of disbelief. Kicking myself for not addressing that
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan 3 месяца назад
@KevinL-lh7ty Faulty metaphore for what I was referencing, imho. I was saying bad action is unavoidable in any action movie. Whether slight (example: punching someone in the face would actually break a hand) or over-the top (example: 007). How any of it's used is what makes any of it work. No movie is realistic. In your metaphor, all movies have a little mold. The noticability of it is what matters. And that last sentence is why the metaphor doesn't work, for me.
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan 3 месяца назад
@KevinL-lh7ty I was actually talking about your second paragraph ("creating a world that doesn't break the suspension of disbelief") being acceptable because your first paragraph ("is exactly like our world") is unrealistic in fiction. That was the point since the beginning. That has nothing to do with judging fiction based on realism. It is explaining why and how the things in the video can work even if they are bad action cliches.
@apollyonbob
@apollyonbob 3 месяца назад
Man, I am persnickety, and I never noticed the Aliens one before. James Cameron is such a master at distracting the audience from asking those questions hahaha
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Yeah, the blood thing drives me nuts in Aliens. Phenomenal movie though
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 3 месяца назад
Just like he did when openned his big mouth to declare he'd debate everybody on why Greta was always right
@intergalactic92
@intergalactic92 3 месяца назад
Terminator 2 still drives me mad (and to an extent terminator 3) for how the robots without a flesh skin to protect them from the Time Machine can all just travel through time without trouble. Doesn’t spoil the film but it bothers me a stupid amount.
@Author_SoftwareDesigner
@Author_SoftwareDesigner 3 месяца назад
Hi Brandon, I’ve been a fan of your channel for a few years. Thanks for your tips and analysis, they have helped me as a writer and editor. If I may, I’d like to make a suggestion. Have you thought about optimizing your videos by adding chapters? It helps folks to find your videos by searching. Anyway, just a suggestion and your videos are already awesome because they are informative, organized, and clear. And I love that you include positive and negative examples in your videos. One of the best writing channels. Period. Thanks man
@errantwinds-up8uu
@errantwinds-up8uu 3 месяца назад
I have my copy of The Half Murders now, looking forward to reading it!
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
Nice! Thanks so much for taking a chance on it. Hope you enjoy it!
@johnleonard9102
@johnleonard9102 3 месяца назад
I hate how Disney Star Wars has decided that getting a lightsaber stab to the torso is something you can literally walk off like what we saw with the black girl inquisitor in the Kenobi show. Another cliche I hate that typically follows action movies and video games is when the hero has mowed down countless henchmen but once he gets to the final boss he's suddenly hesitant to kill the guy despite the bad guy absolutely deserving it, like we see in Naughty Dog games.
@HellfireJags
@HellfireJags 3 месяца назад
If a protagonist gets shot/stabbed, it will always be in the same area of their side so that they won't die, or that they have just enough time to give some heroic speech before dying.
@halofornoobs93
@halofornoobs93 Месяц назад
Honestly, people living long enough to give heroic speeches is really realistic. What is usually unrealistic in action movies is how quickly people die.
@davidanderson9103
@davidanderson9103 3 месяца назад
The gang fight where the one good guy in the middle fights a bunch of bad guys, and the bad guys conveniently only attack one or two at a time.
@DrTasty18
@DrTasty18 3 месяца назад
I wish main characters had to reload more often or didn't carry 50 mags on them for whatever gun they're carrying. I think I've seen before in some movies the MC's magazine empties as they're firing and they have to quickly find cover. It's a nice little reminder of the characters mortality.
@sarduc003
@sarduc003 3 месяца назад
One of the most dull cliches is where one person takes on a whole army without a scratch.
@KarateGirl999
@KarateGirl999 3 месяца назад
Yeah. What works in a hack-and-slash video game works hilariously badly in a movie.
@le_fancy_squid
@le_fancy_squid 3 месяца назад
@@KarateGirl999 In a video game? It makes you feel powerful and amazing and can be a ton of fun. I love Doom for that. In a movie? It just feels so lame...unless it's a comedy or at the very least doesn't take itself too seriously. I always liked the scene in Kung Fu Panda where Tai Lung escapes, because it isn't 100% serious by any means, and you have to suspend a lot of disbelief, but it is a ton of fun to watch.
@KarateGirl999
@KarateGirl999 3 месяца назад
@@le_fancy_squid Tai Lung gets a free pass because of how creatively choreographed that dungeon scene is, and also because it's an animated talking animal movie where you can get away with all sorts of things.
@Thagomizer
@Thagomizer 3 месяца назад
I also hate soft glass. I think Ebert called this the Rock Candy Postulate, which states that no hero can ever take damage while being thrown through glass. Just once, I'd love to see an action movie where someone is thrown through glass, and it fucking KILLS THEM because the glass shards have sliced their throat or something.
@erakfishfishfish
@erakfishfishfish 3 месяца назад
Have you seen The Nice Guys? The film opens with Ryan Gosling’s character attempting to break into a building by punching through a glass window. The shards cut him so badly the next shot is him on an ambulance nearly bleeding to death. (It’s a really funny movie, by the way.)
@doomsday2703
@doomsday2703 3 месяца назад
Two things: 1. Kelly vs. Raptor would have been a lot less worse, if not okay if she simply looked up, noticed the bar, yelled “Hey!” to get the raptor’s attention and then jumped forward and grabbed the bar for a simple swing kick. I can suspend my disbelief with a 12-year-old kicking the raptor when you factor in momentum and the dead weight coupled with the raptor losing its balance, but all of what precedes it takes me out of it with her looking at the bar with determination and then not only doing the routine but even still doing it for a few seconds after the raptor turns to face her. The raptors are supposed to be smart and it’s just completely mesmerized by her moves like a doofus. 2. My personal action trope is what my brother and I like to call “Bad Guy Ammunition.” I get that heroes are supposed to survive but there are moments where bad guys can’t seem to hit the broad side of the barn. Stormtroopers are the biggest example of this, which is weird because regular stormtroopers are supposed to be elite soldiers and even Obi-Wan talks about their accuracy when they find the sandcrawler, yet they get whupped by Teddy Bears.
@federicomiyagi8366
@federicomiyagi8366 3 месяца назад
One cliche I hate is when it seems like the Villain is going to shoot/ kill the hero. And then Plot Armor kicks in and somehow a sidekick or a final destination miracle kills the villain and the Hero lives to fight another day.
@keithg460
@keithg460 3 месяца назад
That's called tension. Do you prefer for the hero to die in your stories? That's only really a problem if the sidekick is never foreshadowed.
@federicomiyagi8366
@federicomiyagi8366 3 месяца назад
@@keithg460 I hate it when the villain is holding a gun aiming at the Hero's head at two steps away from him. And then somehow he isn't the one to shoot the gun but it was someone else holding a gun behind the villain or he fails when he was so close to the Hero somehow. Don't get me started when the villain drops a monologue while holding a gun and it is long enough for someone to enter the scene and shoot dead the villain.
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 3 месяца назад
One of the good guys is hit bad, he knows it, so do you. He has literally minutes before he bleeds out or whatever and the bad guys are right behind you so he offers to delay them. Note I said delay- in order to gain time. So what does the other guy do? He f****** wastes that lead the guy is going to buy with his life in a long goodbye. If it's my guts getting cold on the floor I don't want you to snafu it all by dawdling. HUSTLE.
@ConvictHammer
@ConvictHammer 3 месяца назад
I've always wanted someone to point that about Walking Dead! It gets so ridiculous!
@christheother9088
@christheother9088 3 месяца назад
"Meaningless Mass Destruction" - J.J. on the StarTrek reboot... destroying Romulus and Vulcan mostly because he had a personal distaste for the franchise.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 месяца назад
What action cliches do you hate most? Let us know!
@Goovdluck687
@Goovdluck687 3 месяца назад
Mine’s never reloading their gun / never running out of bullets ….like you mean to tell me you can shoot 20+ people with a normal pistol?
@4bedStudios
@4bedStudios 3 месяца назад
Mine is when certain characters always manage to run *just* faster than a pursuing opponent who should be faster than them for no reason.
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 3 месяца назад
Heroes surrendering to the villain just because they have a hostage they're threatening to shoot. If the villain were to actually do it, they'd lose their leverage, so the hero putting their gun down and their hands up actually takes away their ability to punish the villain for harming the hostage.
@Furball39
@Furball39 3 месяца назад
​@@4bedStudios*cough, cough eggman cough
@chewieinthahouse
@chewieinthahouse 3 месяца назад
MCs not disarming unconscious opponents (and KEEPING the weapon)/not making sure they definitely won’t wake up and surprise them from behind again later
@erakfishfishfish
@erakfishfishfish 3 месяца назад
One cliche that bothers me is when a massive building fire has no smoke (like in the first Spider-Man film). In reality, the fire will create massive amounts of blinding smoke that will kill way more people than the flames ever will.
@CornerTalker
@CornerTalker 3 месяца назад
Deliberate explosions are grey. After watching action-adventure films, people anticipate explosions to be filled with brilliant flaming color, but this is only true of accidental blasts. A gas leak, an aircraft crash, or a fuel depot will billow into bright infernos, great flowing shapes of vivid orange and yellow, flowing spheres of conflagration. Deliberate explosions are different. A grenade slams its world; it doesn’t burn it. Ordinance or dynamite blasts the world into grey dust. An ashy cloud of dust replaces breathable air: plaster, smoke, and choking microparticles. No one reacts at the time. In film, the hero bravely walks away, disregarding. The love interest ducks as shrapnel flies her way. A true explosion exists in the past or future tense, never the present. It’s simply over. Human response is limited to questions: Why am I on the floor? What is this pain inside me?
@Whookieee
@Whookieee 3 месяца назад
One of my favorite Simpsons running gags is how all cars/bikes/rolling trays explode after any type of impact
@HumanAki
@HumanAki 24 дня назад
What I love about Brandon's videos is, not the know-how, but the fact that he gets to get what infuriates him off his chest. 😆
@bearoyay
@bearoyay 3 месяца назад
For me its how unrealistically people respond to being damaged. People never bleed out, suffer from stab wounds, limp or crawl around on the ground. They just take any form of damage and do a back jump and flick their head back. I know this might make movies darker but it adds a whole lot of realism to combat. While im on the subject the infinite stamina that non-physically adept character sometimes possess is a bit baffling as well.
@halofornoobs93
@halofornoobs93 Месяц назад
As a person who used to be obese, it drives me nuts to see overweight characters perform magical feats of athleticism that I know for a fact from personal experience isn't possible. I think it was the last Transformers movie where there is a fat woman as one of the main characters and there are probably at least 20 times in the movie where she either should have died, or been about 2 hours away from arriving at her destination.
@c.w.johnsonjr6374
@c.w.johnsonjr6374 3 месяца назад
An overused action cliche is our hero using a bad guy's body as a shield but the bad guys never doing that despite the mounting carnage
@The_Real_Andrew355
@The_Real_Andrew355 3 месяца назад
One of the best things about the movie Unforgiven is how it subverts the "Absurd Accuracy" trope.
@beautifulmath5361
@beautifulmath5361 3 месяца назад
Enemy soldiers, body guards and mafia toughs who fire wave upon wave of machine gun fire at the good guy and can't score a single hit. What were they hired for if not their ability to handle weapons??
@SteveSkiano
@SteveSkiano 3 месяца назад
As a former military medic, I can’t stand medical treatments in action films. It’s either a medic or love interest uselessly dabbing someone’s head with a rag, trying to “get the bullet out” (which is not the problem), using a tourniquet or burning a wound that is barely bleeding, or injecting an IV dry by jamming a needle into the center of an arm, leg, chest cavity, etc. Marky Mark in that sniper movie dumping a pack of “Quick Clot” on his barely-bleeding shoulder injury, then making an IV out of a turkey baster and radiator hose is a prime example. Everything about that is just so wrong.
@SteveSkiano
@SteveSkiano 3 месяца назад
Oh, and choking someone out with a jiu jitsu move makes them pass out for hours. You can see how that isn’t the case when UFC fighters wake up after a few seconds, and hear the news that they lost the fight.
@CatboyChillin
@CatboyChillin 3 месяца назад
Something my dad pointed out as we watched Blade 2 last night When the bad guys have someone important held hostage and they throw them away instead of killing them (or injuring them)
@lotharrenz4621
@lotharrenz4621 3 месяца назад
Blade 2 was so full of such mistakes. I'm a gamer, and our GM would have handed us our butts multiple times if we did such mistakes at the gaming table.. (besides, the supposed "slavic talking" is gibberish. do it right or leave it.)
@lewislewis3531
@lewislewis3531 3 месяца назад
I remember writing an assassin character who was meant to be the best around. He runs out of ammo and switches tactics, trying to flee from overwhelming odds. He notes how his attackers keep making mistakes or have poor gun handling, which both shows his expertise but also explains how he can survive against the odds.
@mgtocrateezspeaks3971
@mgtocrateezspeaks3971 3 месяца назад
Walking slowly away from a nearby explosion with no effect.
@TrueMithrandir
@TrueMithrandir 3 месяца назад
Swimming/Underwater scenes where they seem to be able to hold their breath for an unnatural amount of time while under duress and exertion.
@grizzly_manbanimation8436
@grizzly_manbanimation8436 3 месяца назад
I get what you mean, but you’d be surprised at how long some people can hold their breath.
@patrickknipe9650
@patrickknipe9650 3 месяца назад
The reverse of every head shot hits. When trained heroes (characters), who are very confident using firearms, and in scenes where their marksmanship is on display can hit a quarter thrown in the air from 100 paces, but cant seem to shoot and hit anybody, anywhere, in a gun fight. Burn Notice was a show I enjoyed that was a constant example of this.
@BennyBottema
@BennyBottema 3 месяца назад
An extension of plot armor: in the beginning of the movie a single entity poses an incredible danger, but at the end of the movie the protagonists defeat whole armies of them with similar weapons.
@CheezeWheelz
@CheezeWheelz 3 месяца назад
Action cliche I hate the most: A monster is chasing a character, but when they get cornered the monster slowly approaches them so that our hero can have enough time to pull a deus ex machina. If you've seen Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom or Stranger Things season 3 then you know exactly what I'm referring to. It happens so many god d**n times.
@thepiratemongoose8965
@thepiratemongoose8965 3 месяца назад
People in a fight that aren't trying to kill (or at least neutralize) their opponents. Fights that turn into wrestling/throwing matches. Especially in superhero movies; these guys can punch through steel but instead of just crushing their opponents' skulls they lightly toss them across the room. And people slam into a wall hard enough to crack concrete but somehow their ribs/spines don't shatter? I mean, guess what breaks first if you bash someone's head on the floor.
@halofornoobs93
@halofornoobs93 Месяц назад
For me the most annoying thing in action scenes is when a protag is completely outmatched by their opponent, yet magically with the power of "I can do it!" they overpower their opponent.
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