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AN INVISIBLE , UNKNOWABLE TRINITY OR THE RESTORATION OF A KNOWABLE GODHEAD? QUESTION #2 FOR ZANE!! 

David Alexander
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@davidmalvinalexander
@davidmalvinalexander 2 месяца назад
Just want to mention....in this video...I think the Beehive is a good analogy for the Godhead...and iit is no accident that it is/was how Brihgam Young viewed the Church of Jesus Christ....but the REALITY....is Heavenly Father's One Godhead...is a destined to be a FAMIL"Y of Glorified! Human beings. A TRUE DIVINE FAIMILY is the desire of our Father, nothing other than that! ....Christians "know" this...but they are schizophrenic about it....not really believing that we are of the SAME SPECIES as our Father....and each have the potential to be fully INCORPORATED into the One Godhead..
@rconger24
@rconger24 2 месяца назад
Beehive. I like it!
@cah95046
@cah95046 2 месяца назад
Joseph Smith's first vision. What a glorious event.
@surewave8202
@surewave8202 2 месяца назад
Oh, yes! I know i is true.
@harmagician1
@harmagician1 2 месяца назад
Great video. Paul criticized the Greeks for chasing an unknowable god. Other religions should take note.
@sarahbean6170
@sarahbean6170 2 месяца назад
This is great! I remember first learning that people believed that God and Jesus were one being and I was dumbfounded bc it made no sense 🤣 It still baffles me. Thanks for the content David!
@HelamansArmy
@HelamansArmy 2 месяца назад
I've been listening to the non-LDS Christians about the Godhead, or as they call it, the Trinity, and they're obsessed with conflating God the Father with His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. They're so set on wanting strict monotheism that they can't accept the possibility of them being two separate beings otherwise their entire religious view is destroyed. It's so convoluted that they really don't fully understand the Holy Spirit because they don't understand the nature of the Godhead. Another main point I'd like to say, is that if you read through the records for the creeds, they don't take credit for being inspired by the Spirit of God. No. To them it was their declaration of what they wanted God to be. It was their belief they wanted to cement in such that the arguments over the Godhead would cease. The antenicean creed history is full of arguments and disagreements of the nature of God and it's an interesting period of time to study.
@montipoulson491
@montipoulson491 2 месяца назад
You found your calling, and it blesses all of us. Thank You!
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the organized format. You got to the point right at the beginning which is good so people could follow your message easier. As a child my thought was always, If God and Jesus are the same person, who was Jesus praying to all the time? Himself?
@gaylasnow1755
@gaylasnow1755 2 месяца назад
Brother David , Thsnk you for speaking so clearly from the Bible and Joseph Smith's words and the true history of the creeds and how all the confusion started so long ago. You sre a blessing to so many. The concept of the bee hive is so good and proven to be true from so long ago . What a beautiful way to describe the oneness of the Godhead. When I was 12, and a young member of the church, we had a church program for the 12 year old girls that were called Beehives. There were Beehives, Bluebirds, and Seagulls for our 12, 13 and 14th years in our church activity. The boys were at that time in Boy Scouts.
@reneestewart7977
@reneestewart7977 2 месяца назад
Wow!! ❤That was incredible to hear from you. What a gift. Thank you.
@anthonym2499
@anthonym2499 2 месяца назад
that's was an absolute delight. it is good to see your countenance glow when talking about these things. as of the windows of heaven are opened up and the truth is laid bare before you and you stand in awe of it's beauty and power. the gospel becomes so clear and so knowable and so wonderful to those who have the eyes and ears to behold it. thank you David for your zeal towards heavenly things.
@dycetohiariki9498
@dycetohiariki9498 2 месяца назад
Absolutely see the glow
@trentmendenhall9625
@trentmendenhall9625 2 месяца назад
Christ's baptism is another clear indication of the 3 separate beings of the Godhead.
@galelaidlaw8355
@galelaidlaw8355 2 месяца назад
This is great, I loved the evidences you presented that add witness to Joseph Smith’s first vision. Another witness I always think of is that when Christ was baptized, God’s voice was heard out of heaven and the Holy Ghost descended in the form of a dove so all three members of the godhead were present and distinct in this instance.
@patsagers9199
@patsagers9199 2 месяца назад
I think this was one of your very best videos! I like that you wrote it out, touched every point, and had all those wonderful scriptures for us to read and recall. This was excellent!
@sandrachapman6388
@sandrachapman6388 2 месяца назад
Love to listen to you. I hope you are doing well., Much love.
@Jerb-ib9wx
@Jerb-ib9wx 2 месяца назад
David the videos of your answers to the 3 questions of your friend Zane were something else and I think one of them had two parts. I believe there was at least one more you were going to address if not two if I remember right at some point. Thanks so much for all you do in teaching these powerful elements of the gospel to the world with such grace and elegance you are doing a mighty work.
@MichaelCoulon-q5n
@MichaelCoulon-q5n 2 месяца назад
Great help for all missionary’s David which we are all enlisted Thank yoy(:
@jimthorley5445
@jimthorley5445 2 месяца назад
Awe, David, this is beautiful! You have put, in a useful form, a small, but very important part of your knowledge. I know this will further missionary work. Keep going! God bless.
@kristenniedermeyer9023
@kristenniedermeyer9023 2 месяца назад
This was wonderful I just really really miss the thousand songs rolling around in your mind and heart. This one could of ended in the Hokey Pokey as everyone turns themselves around to the truth and rejoice.
@gaylasnow1755
@gaylasnow1755 2 месяца назад
Bless you, Brother Walter. You have had a sad but glorious life. Glorious because you found the gospel and preached it and loved it, and lived it to the best of your ability. May God bless you with peace and joy in your life here and ever after. ❤. The gospel is true and brought us all together for this little moment in time. We love brother David Alexander, don't we? And we love Jesus Christ and his Father and our Heavenly Father.😂
@jameschenault7404
@jameschenault7404 2 месяца назад
Well done thank you
@bishdizzle67
@bishdizzle67 2 месяца назад
That was great. It's so important to show the utter logic of one in purpose as completely different from one in physical being. It's hard to understand how otherwise intelligent people believe in a Nicean Creed God, say they believe the Bible, but deny the Bible in it's testimony of the True nature of The Godhead.
@MavisBennett-nw6hy
@MavisBennett-nw6hy 2 месяца назад
Satan is the one who does not have a body. That is why he does not want people to believe that God has a body. It is Satan who does not have body, parts or passions. He is incapable of love. He cannot stand to have people believe in a God whose description is different than the description of himself. So it can be known that the Nicene Creed is a description of Satan and is false.
@Jerb-ib9wx
@Jerb-ib9wx 2 месяца назад
This is absolutely the best video you have ever done. Irrefutable evidence of the true nature of the Godhead. Absolutely irrevocably destroys the manmade dogma of the trinity. God bless you brother Alexander.
@CJohnson-sm7ek
@CJohnson-sm7ek 2 месяца назад
Great video David! I love the format - do it again!!
@bartonbagnes4605
@bartonbagnes4605 2 месяца назад
I like John 8: 17-18 where Jesus Christ himself says that he and the Father are the two separate men needed by law for a testimony to be true.
@kellymcdonald1895
@kellymcdonald1895 2 месяца назад
Thank you brother!
@maryfletcher9905
@maryfletcher9905 2 месяца назад
I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING YOU ON MY LAP TOP!![UR words then are BIGGER! BRAVO! ...4 SHOWING MOST OF UR WORDS ON SCREEN!! [A LOT LIKE TEACHING IN THE TEMPLE!! 🎉yay!] And the modulations of your reading & speaking add so much interesting texture! THX 4 POWERFUL REMINDER RE: STEPHEN [the 1st MARTYR in the former day church] Who ALSO ACTUALLY SAW GOD THE FATHER STANDING NEXT TO JESUS CHRIST! [DO NON LDS CHRISTIANS EVER TALK ABOUT THIS??] Maybe sometime u can learn to use the cursor[ the movable arrow ] to point out to the viewers where you are in the text with your voice....[a sweet suggestion] A GREAT PRESENTATION! WHAT A GRAND TEACHING TOOL!! BRAVO!!👋🙌👍
@dcorem1
@dcorem1 2 месяца назад
Too bad the Protestant reformers didn't toss out the doctrine of the trinity along with the other false Catholic notions they discarded!
@jonelleaustin2213
@jonelleaustin2213 2 месяца назад
LOVE THIS VIDEO and history of Joseph Smiths vision of the Father and the Son. AMEN! Jesus declared himself as the Son of God. A son or daughter are not within the being of their father. The Holy Spirit came upon Jesus when he was baptized. Jesus, Heavenly Father and the Holy Ghost are ONE in PURPOSE "NOT" in Person.
@bumpercoach
@bumpercoach 2 месяца назад
Love the bold angle of the question!!
@surewave8202
@surewave8202 2 месяца назад
This was a really good one. You taught the true gospel of Jesus Christ. But this was the first time I have heard the Beehive analogy.
@gwengold8154
@gwengold8154 2 месяца назад
I'm excited to hear this one! 😊 but I just wanted to encourage everyone who would be willing to support a brand new latter-day saint to check out Victor in Australia. He is reading the Book of Mormon, and it's wonderful! He's only got about 400 subscribers so far. He deserves many more. 😊
@bryanbarton1153
@bryanbarton1153 2 месяца назад
Thank you David
@rconger24
@rconger24 2 месяца назад
Hi David. We are visiting Provo from Pennsylvania! Will you be around here within the week? -Ray
@davidmalvinalexander
@davidmalvinalexander 2 месяца назад
I may well be. Just email me your phone number...and if I get down that way I will give you a call! I would be great to meet you!
@rconger24
@rconger24 2 месяца назад
17:00 22:30 beehive parable
@rconger24
@rconger24 2 месяца назад
​@davidmalvinalexander Bonnie and I zoomed with you several months ago. Would be nice to meet you in person if it is possible! OK I'll email our phone numbers. *_Hosannahs!_*
@andrewwashburn6080
@andrewwashburn6080 2 месяца назад
my question to the evangelicals is how is it that when a rich man asked jesus how he might achieve eternal life jesus never once said simply accept me as your lord and savior? instead he told him to obey all the commandments and when the rich man said he had. jesus gave him yet one more commandment an action he needed to take in order to have eternal life.
@Steelblaidd
@Steelblaidd 2 месяца назад
As I have studied some of the original arguments I have come to the conclusion that the confusion comes from what is commonly called the error of equivocation. Where a word with multiple definitions is used in different senses in different parts of the argument. When the original argument about whether the Father and Son were of "one substance" or "like substance" the concern was not the 'number' of beings but the 'kind' of beings. For if Jesus was not the same kind of being as God then he could not make us gods.
@president2
@president2 2 месяца назад
I talked to Lucy and her brother about creating a game built on your 50 questions and they are very excited. Love you 😘!
@bumpercoach
@bumpercoach 2 месяца назад
Wonderful... Thank you Brother!!
@witteafval
@witteafval 2 месяца назад
I love how Rabbi Harold Kushner put it when he spoke once at BYU: "When we say, in your tradition and in mine, that there is only one God, that is not a mathematical statement; it is a moral statement. To affirm that there is one God is not the census report from heaven-we went up to count divine beings and couldn’t come up with more than one. To say that there is only one God is to claim that there is such a thing as right and wrong. If there are many gods, you cannot talk about absolute right and wrong."
@justjamie6458
@justjamie6458 2 месяца назад
Never noticed this before. In that picture God has his left arm around what appears to be a woman. Seems Michaelangelo knew about heavenly mother too.
@bumpercoach
@bumpercoach 2 месяца назад
Hope to see you up in Ogden while youre still there and go see the Browning museum together... The father Jonathan had the Nauvoo gunsmithery and his son John Moses became the first world famous (for other than the restored church) son of Utah as the Edison of firearms
@orangemanbad
@orangemanbad Месяц назад
The trinity is easily explained: -The Father is Divine Majesty, creator of all things, all power. His Majesty is incomprehensible to us so he conceived of himself the Son so we can know him. -The Son has the glory of the father. But he is a more limited form. He is embodiment and physical form of God. He is the Word of God. -the Holy Spirit is the Work of the father.
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 2 месяца назад
I heard a scholar have a little bit different take on the creeds. He said he thought the "one being" is not the same as "one person". In his view the "one being" meant all the same TYPE of being. So in his view, he thought it means Heavenly Father, Jesus , and the Holy Ghost are one TYPE of being, but not the same persons. Based on this video, it doesn't seem to have been David's understanding during his experience with the creeds. Well, that view (being = type of being) is a bit closer to our doctrine, but it doesn't take care of being unknowable, incarnate, insubstantial, and all the other issues with them.
@gwengold8154
@gwengold8154 2 месяца назад
Torvics Aus ( channel name)
@iamurs5293
@iamurs5293 2 месяца назад
Hi David, thankyou for your answers about the God head. It really does make sense to me. God the Father Jesus Christ The Holy Ghost Three separate beings... Now, I have a question for you...we have established the God head, now, my question is this. Who else is there ? in this existence of our heavenly fathers realm. I believe it is his son's and daughters and obviously our heavenly mother. And that's it, no one else. Yes, there is lucifer and his followers that rejected heavenly fathers plan. They are sons and daughters too. So the question remains...who else is there?
@DavidAlexander-German-xf4wv
@DavidAlexander-German-xf4wv Месяц назад
I cant find the text in facebook
@walterelwell2252
@walterelwell2252 2 месяца назад
Wish I could send you a pic. When you came on you had the same shirt I have on. I'm 80 and feeling I have lived my life for naught. Raised in a foster home since age two. Lost them at almost 18. Joined The Church at 25. Had been sent to a Church a Congregational one. Did. Associated with them. Didn't like Nicean Creed. Determined to just be a good person.Went on mission at age 25. Served honorable. Md. In Temple 3 kids later divorce and heart attack. Now 38 years with a new wife. And maybe another divorce. Dementia!
@MichaelCoulon-q5n
@MichaelCoulon-q5n 2 месяца назад
Great help for all missionary’s David which we are all enlisted Thank yoy(:
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