I just watched nearly 9 minutes of someone trying to start a train. if this is not testament to the fact that I'll sit and watch anything late at night when I can't sleep, I don't know what is.
@@richardraynor5242 That's actually interesting, I have very little knowledge on diesel engines. As I understand some cylinders started to properly combust before others, as you can tell by the color of the smoke from each exhaust. So this could mean that cylinders that did good combust pushed the crankshaft and helped other cylinders?
Just the battery. Usually on big locos like this the use the main generator as a starter. Run power through them and the turn, turn ‘em and they make power.
Stop concentrating on ONE HEADS, and think about 19000 trees being cut down every minute! A diesel locomotive is only a ONE HEAD! I am sick and tired of people accusing ONE HEADS of harming our planet!
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 the limit is at 30 minutes for cameras! The 10 minutes are mostly from slow SD cards/storage or sometimes overheating of the camera itself.
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 As Chroni said, it's 30 minutes, not 10. My DSLR's video length is capped at exactly 29:59 for this reason. I happily would've paid the extra tax on my camera model for it to not have an artificial video length. Ah well.
Just love love love the 50's !!! superb sound and remember it so well climbing Sapperton bank - you dont get much better than that - what a sound .......
Ever see a Budd RDC rail car cold start its Detroit Diesels? The whole area code gets smoked out. No wonder you used to see old diesels sitting around idling all the time in winter.
Adrian Morris Jesus Christ you religious nuts get everywhere! god, jesus and all the rest are as fictitious as superman and batman! 🙄🙄 This is a real locomotive and real smoke, get over yourself!
OMG! I remember coming into Selhurst depot to work one morning many year ago and seeing something similar, the fog was so thick you could only see about 3 feet ahead of you, and the smell of diesel! Wow!
Oddly enough i was just thinking how the ozone layer faired up with all that pollution i reckon its totalled now and the hole in it is now the size of a black hole
In BR days the engines were not shut down that often, only for maintenance.I have worked on all types of diesel traction over decades including 50's This was two days ! So we never got to this stage of the 50. Check out the cold start class 60 video. I was on that job. Loco shut down for a week. Flat batteries and ice in the cabs. That took a couple of hours to charge up and run right. It would only run on two cylinders to start with
yeap,started with two cylinders only. But something was wrong,compression rings, or if it have a charger,a ckeck is necesary. took a lot of tme for warm . the batteries is correct,loose a lot of energy in cold days.
More trees and plants around he world they filter all that shit out and give us oxygen she should be on a world tour raising cash to grow and plant them everywhere starting in China surely its common sense
Slightly different, but it reminds me of trying to start a Foden 6x6 gun tractor in the workshop yard one winter in the late 80s. 6 Cylinder Rolls Royce Eagle engine and after about 30 secs cranking I got it to fire on one cylinder. The amount of white smoke coming out of the exhaust was like a thick fog bank, couldn't see anything. Think it took me 10 mins before it was running on all 6. Gotta love the smell of unburnt diesel in the morning ;)
DieyoungDiefast sounds very similar to one of my dads old leylands with the eagle in it Miss that smell and the anticipation trying to work out if it would get on the road that day
I think this video should be age restricted it's absolute pure filth!!! I've searched a few times in the past for hoover cold starts and this is definitely best class 50 start up vid i've ever seen. Cheers for uploading. You've done a brilliant job!! :) I really miss the days we had proper loco's instead of all the aweful imported garden sheds and buses on rails like now. Wish i'd been at Derby to see this beast. I'll never forget how happy i felt seeing my first 50 in Waterloo before they got withdrawn from service. :(
rezin8r, that imported yank shit has a proven record of performance and ultra reliability. check out some yank or canadian videos and see the size of the trains in the most efficient rail systems in the world. uk and europe still use coupling systems invented in the early 1800's. english electric locos may have been an equal to yank stuff 60 years ago. since then, the english companies built shit knowing the home market would buy it and allowed quality to drop. fail. the europeans still have faith in hydraulics. fail. even the chinese will import big yank shit. because they are running railways for profit, not fun palaces for us train nerds. by the way it took a while to work out the meaning of your name-very clever. i'm impressed. i'm not easily impressed.
Joking aside where Gretta is consernd I feel for her she is scripted by the government who are officially exploiting a teen and a person with a hidden disability Greta is asperges we are passionate about what we are led to believe but she is far to young to be leading a campaign. Also been asperges like me which a lot of people litrally only 8 years ago would call us spastics Its going to be hard when the government drop her like a hot brick I bet the eco followers won't care for her then. They won't give her a second thought. That's what pains me about Gretta not the false emmisions scam the fact these big wigs are ruining her life without a second thought.
i can't remember where i saw it, but i'm sure i saw a russian crew start a difficult loco under bloody cold conditions by holding a lit diesel soaked rag over the engine intake. it worked a treat. another trick which may or may not work on a diesel was butane. i watched a bloke hold the nozzle of a portable burner gas can down aiming it at the intake while pull starting a flooded chainsaw. the butane got the thing to start in spite of being well and truly flooded by yours truly who had borrowed it of him. he said the trick worked for all engines.
@@g8ymw With a big bang firing order aswell.EE,s were fantastic but were pigs to start and each cylinder to catch.Two pots firing at a time running down the crank from end to end.The turbos blew alot of diesel out which tried to ignite and caused the flames.Love them.
I work as a volunteer on the Watercress line in Hampshire, we have a class 50 called Lion, it s owned by a private family and I was fortunate enough to be in the cab when they started it up for testing, what a great sound when 16 cylinders come to life!
Healthy batteries, too if these start on battery power. I think sometimes they need battery boosters to cold start, but it seems like this one started on its own..
That's less pollution than David Attenborough has produced flying around the world ever year doing documentaries, funny how he is all environmental now after making his millions!!
Thing is, right, im 16, im aware of the climate, i dont doubt climate change exists, im worried abt it, but i find stuff like this enjoyable to say the least. What does that say abt me😂
I’m surprised that they don’t have immersion heaters in their cooling systems, to keep their cylinder blocks warm. Similarly their sumps. Some big engines have steam trace to mitigate the effects of thermal stressing.
This reminds me of an Austin Montego I had many moons ago! The automatic choke (remember them?) wouldn’t operate when cold, but would suddenly open wide when the engine got hot! It burnt gallons of leaded! 😂
Love the 50s - but they did get very dog eared toward the end of their mainline use. I remember getting into the leading coach of a train at Waterlook in the very late 1980s. A class 50 was pulling and there was a very strong smell of fuel (not exhaust) coming from it. There were a group of anoraks in the very front seats taking bets with one another about where it would fail (as they very often did then). The smell persisted through the journey. I got out at Woking so I don't know who won the bet!
Guys guys guys .... that smoke is mostly unburnt fuel that quickly precipitates out of the air as black sooth and grease... there is only a bit of CO2 and some NOx but nothing fantastic and different from a normal engine operation Because the smoke is visible people stress out with this environment thing...
awesome! i remember them passing my house some nights helping install the new electric system :( ,,,,such a great noise and the horns were brilliant...oh the good old days.
In regular service they hardly ever got shut down so having no preheaters didn't really matter as the need to start efficiently didn't arise that often
Well yeah it would be wen you think of how many people you could get on a train to one locomotive that you have taken a lot of cars off the road cos all the people that would of driven ther cars instead of taking the train so really it is cleaner if you know wat I mean
Well, my car could drive 50 miles or more on this enormous amount of diesel fuel vaporized 😅 But seriously, here in Germany diesel locos are connected to the power grid when not on duty, to load the batteries and keep the motor warm by electrically heating the cooling system. Older locos could be pre heated with steam or had a small auxiliary diesel engine to warm up the coolant of the main engine.
Yes these are preserved & 4 or 5 class 50's come out on the main line occasionally still. There are also class 20's class 37's & 47's still on the main line all be it only a few
Reminds me of the car I had when I was a student except that loco is a lot easier to start and probably doesnt leak water, oil and brake fluid! It gives a brand new meaning to the term not firing on all cylinders.
Now if there was only a way to pre-heat the engine in day and age?? In our Canadian winter my diesel truck stays in my garage overnight and has a block plus oil pan heater, there is also a heater pad on the transmission pan.
Why do the engines start so bad when cold? Is it the large displacement ? Aren´t the engines preheated or don´t they have a flame start system in the air intake pipe, like a truck ? As i know the engine oil is pre-heated and the engine is getting pre-lubricated before starting. Greetings from south Germany
