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5200 and Why You Shouldn't Use It 

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3M 5200 Marine Adhesive Sealant is a great product that does everything it says it's going to do, which is why you shouldn't use it on your boat.
Boat parts are made to be removed, maintained and replaced, 5200 is not. Don't be THAT boater.
What should you use instead? Probably 3m's 4200 or a marine-grade silicone. It won't take the paint with it when it's time for maintenance.

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@rednecksinbushes4106
@rednecksinbushes4106 5 лет назад
So, for a permanent fix, as it is advertised. It works perfectly. Alright
@almaguapa-sailboatliveaboa440
I work as marine tech. Indeed, don't use 5200 on parts you intend to remove/take apart in next 10yrs if under sun, 15-20yrs away from sun.
@NeoMK
@NeoMK 9 месяцев назад
4000UV is what you use above waterline.
@typennies1
@typennies1 6 месяцев назад
worked at a shipyard and sailed off shore for years. 5200 is a gamechanger when used appropriately for the right application
@ThatGuyZeb
@ThatGuyZeb 2 года назад
This was a lot of fun. We definitely need to do more of these.
@jonathanharrington9648
@jonathanharrington9648 3 года назад
Yup it works I love this stuff I use it for permanent fixes and if you need less permanent use 4200
@NeoMK
@NeoMK 9 месяцев назад
Unless it's exposed to UV. Then use 4000UV. It's barely removable.
@Whalermansteve84
@Whalermansteve84 5 месяцев назад
There’s a product called Debond that actually breaks down 5200 and makes it easier to remove. Works wonders .. it’s not cheap though , $40 for a tiny can of it so use it sparingly
@dougb1169
@dougb1169 7 месяцев назад
How to remove something glued with 5200. Step 1 Heat it up with your heat gun. step 2 While still applying heat work your putty knife or prying tool under the edge and apply continuous pressure, keep working it SLOWLY. takes a bit but it will let go. Marine mechanic 7 years.
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 11 месяцев назад
I use 5200 on bronze through-hulls, and will continue to do so.
@samuellevi9190
@samuellevi9190 3 года назад
I just used a full tube on multiple through-hull's on my project boat. I saw the title of this video and my heart sunk. But now all is right with the world.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 2 года назад
The person who has to replace the through hulls next time, is going to find you and hunt you down.....
@mikekling53
@mikekling53 4 месяца назад
I use it to attach tiles to my pools plaster. I have been doing this with loose tiles you find every spring. I started using 5200 13 years ago and never had any of those tiles ever loosen or come off yet.
@sprinterlex2082
@sprinterlex2082 2 года назад
Great job on the video. :) I usually get a bit annoyed at videos that don't have solid experiments, experience sharing, or much information when looking up product information videos. But this was pretty awesome and I was laughing multiple times.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 2 года назад
Giggles are the goal! Thanks!
@gerritNL
@gerritNL 4 года назад
I have leaky stays, that means wate drips in through the stays below decks. This is prevented using sealant around the stay. But it flexes during sailing and heavy wind. Now; I want to remove the old sealant and seal it watertight using 5200. But will 5200 create a watertight seal and will it cope with a little flexing? Also, there might be tiny leaks through the wooden bumper around the boat. This bumper is fitted using bolts. The bonding between hull and deck might have little cracks. Now, I hope cleaning and sanding this and filling the gap with 5200 might cure it. Then glueing back the bumper (wood) back onto the GPR hull using 5200. Will this work? Your video proves it is very very strong and provides a very good seal.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 4 года назад
I'd say you can and should use 3m 4200 on the stays. It still has thousands of pounds shear strength but if you need to drop your mast for any reason, you'll be glad you used 4200. Feel free to use 5200 on the rub rail (your wood bumper), but again you can get away with 4200 for that as well, so you might as well just buy one product. It creates the same waterproof seal with amazing flexion, water resistance and shear strength but it's easier to remove when it's time to do maintenance.
@albrousssard429
@albrousssard429 Год назад
Im restoring a 1958 Chris Craft runabout. Your video, sir, kinda misleads. 5200 is a permanent, emphasize, permanent adhesive sealant. It is the most rigorous material. If one decides to use it on above or below waterline on items later to be removed, a great mistake has been made. Once again, “permanent” application. I truly recommend this product. Side note- there is a spray on solvent that will slowly breakdown the urethane bond with minimal damage if any to gelcoat. But I repeat myself, at the risk of being crude, “permanent” is the operative word!
@expatwiggins6029
@expatwiggins6029 7 месяцев назад
Yes I know late, but you could literally 5200 your entire boat together
@jesserojas7856
@jesserojas7856 4 года назад
yes! Be careful, I had no idea and I used it like silicone for a couple years on my boat.
@DaBurntToaster
@DaBurntToaster 5 лет назад
ok so I just finished watching this video, I now have 2 10 ounce cartridges in my amazon shopping cart. pressing order now in 3 2 1 ordered. thanks for your help guys, great video btw, really helped me make my decision to buy this product, and even to buy an extra for when ill eventually use it for other projects in the future.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 5 лет назад
You building a boat?
@DaBurntToaster
@DaBurntToaster 5 лет назад
@@CaptainBoomies no actually ill be using it to seal the rims of my bike so I can go tubeless.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 5 лет назад
@@DaBurntToaster wait a sec... Did you watch the very end? 5200 won't bond to rubber. I'm a bike-dumb, so I don't know if that was part of the plan.
@DaBurntToaster
@DaBurntToaster 5 лет назад
@@CaptainBoomies im sealing the holes in the rim that the spokes connect to the rim through, this product is actually advised by many people for tubeless conversions. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JPzoqi_4X7o.html
@dkat1108
@dkat1108 4 года назад
You kidding me that's exactly what im looking for
@mechanicdave80
@mechanicdave80 3 года назад
This video has something to do with 5200, but I liked the demo parts...lol 😉
@moonolyth
@moonolyth 2 года назад
So I noticed you took a dive with the scraper on the first hit (rewind) this would have dug into the gell coat causing a nice ship Wala! The scraper even bowed the opposite way, soon as you split the jell coat the glue did its job as it should..... (Not saying it would not have split) but jumping in like that cant help. I have not used the stuff but looks fantastic for permanent repairs! Thanks!!
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 2 года назад
Full disclosure: there is some deceptive editing that happened here. You can tell because there is a whole in the boat from a pick axe already. I had already tried a much thinner scraper, but it was too small and I messed up the audio, so please consider this a dramatization. But yes, you are correct, for permanent fixes, like attaching a transom when you build a boat, it's great. For anything that might require removal and maintenance, it's a no go.
@moonolyth
@moonolyth 2 года назад
@@CaptainBoomies irregardless wants that stuff's on it ain't coming off, perhaps with a little Heat.
@elbybrook9466
@elbybrook9466 7 месяцев назад
DIRTFOOT!!!!!! LIKE A RHINESTONE RING! 😁 Scotty's on the Sax.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 7 месяцев назад
I freaking love their music!!
@JEFFQUICKLE9
@JEFFQUICKLE9 4 года назад
Will this adhesive work on rubber....as in tires? As in glueing down Tire letters from Tredwear? Because they have you cleaning each tire at least ten times with degreaser and acetone to get all the oil out of the tire before application and if you don't the letters will come loose, fall off! Thanks!
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 4 года назад
5200 does not bond to rubber (end of the video), but @3m does make a product called 08008 that can bond rubber to metal, it probably works for rubber to rubber, but I've never needed to do that.
@MrSwatsteven
@MrSwatsteven 3 года назад
@@CaptainBoomies 5200 bonds to neoprene rubber really well, I use it for wetsuit repair
@grr986
@grr986 2 года назад
What people don't seem to be getting (I know you keep saying it...but it is not getting through) is that there is almost nothing above the waterline that is truly permanent on a boat. Most things below the waterline aren't permanent, either. That thing that you think is permanent will need to come off in 10 years, and if you use 5200 the person taking it off will swear at you for being an idiot.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies Год назад
Thank you. I know that I need to create a follow-up video that really spells it out, but this was fun to make and that sounds dry and informational... that's just not me. haha
@beardedyaker9767
@beardedyaker9767 2 года назад
So many people are using it wrong. It's only meant to be used as a permanent solution. So why would you use it on something that will in time need to be replaced? That is what 4200 is for. You NEVER put a "permanent adhesive" on something that is threaded lol
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 2 года назад
So you did get the point of the video!
@beardedyaker9767
@beardedyaker9767 2 года назад
@@CaptainBoomies So many people use it like you demonstrated. Its great stuff, when its warranted. Great videos!!!
@beardedyaker9767
@beardedyaker9767 2 года назад
@@CaptainBoomies I fixed my typo lol I see how I did that
@JuanLopez-zo8os
@JuanLopez-zo8os 9 месяцев назад
​@@beardedyaker9767In case I want to glue the outsole with the midsole of some sneakers, is it preferable to use the 4200 or 5200?
@stelliform
@stelliform 2 года назад
Is that the back end of a Catalina?
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 2 года назад
I honestly don't know... kinda looks like it to me. This quarter of a boat came into my possession in an odd way. Someone thought they were going to turn it into some home décor, but the wife said, "Hell No!"
@stelliform
@stelliform 2 года назад
@@CaptainBoomies It looks almost identical to my Catalina 22 except for what I’m guessing is a skeg. Great video. Your channel was recommended to me from your GBU accident review. Thanks for the education on 5200!
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 2 года назад
@@stelliform welcome to my salty little party! 🎉
@chloehennessey6813
@chloehennessey6813 4 года назад
I love 5200. It helps with swimsteps and any damage it does having to remove it easily fixed with resin and glass and little gelcoat. I just hate epoxies and won’t allow it in our shop 😂😂
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 4 года назад
Yeah, that's what I'm saying: skip the damage, and use 4200. If I can avoid gelcoating, I'm happy.
@thewalloby
@thewalloby Месяц назад
You'd think the word:Permanent would give it away but no.... people have to try and be pointlessly critical about it.
@MoneyPitBoating
@MoneyPitBoating 11 месяцев назад
Oh man! We could have used this video before using 5200 on our boat (And hands)! The stuff works...a little too good!
@marksmith7054
@marksmith7054 3 месяца назад
5200 is the Permanent fix. other Silicone do not last under water.
@hahahshs5169
@hahahshs5169 5 лет назад
Want more
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 5 лет назад
Thanks! Just seeing this. Got one more coming. Anything you want us to try out?
@braydencash9764
@braydencash9764 5 лет назад
U mean why u should use it
@tommooe4524
@tommooe4524 9 месяцев назад
Use DeBond…score outline once spray twice and lift…..sell the pick axe to the pawn shop
@deerlakediver5554
@deerlakediver5554 5 лет назад
It's not 5200's fault that you two don't know how to remove a fitting. It's easy..... Use a steel guitar string. Wrap the ends of the thinnest string around two one inch diameter dowels for handles. Remove the hardware from the fitting, and pull the guitar string between the gelcoat and the fitting, right thru the 5200. It will part the 5200 like a cheese slicer. No damage. Amazing how people will blame products for poor outcomes, when the real issue is just lack of experience and training.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 5 лет назад
...or you could use 3m 4200 and skip the music store.
@deerlakediver5554
@deerlakediver5554 5 лет назад
@@CaptainBoomies 4200 is not as strong.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 5 лет назад
Yeah, that's the point. I'd rather lose a fitting than a chunk of deck. I see boaters overuse "THE STRONG STUFF!" and they think maintenance is something for the next owner. There are some rare exceptions to the rule, but generally 5200 is too much when 4200 is exactly right and pretty darn strong.
@deerlakediver5554
@deerlakediver5554 5 лет назад
@@CaptainBoomies so what are you going to seal the upper and lower halves of a moulded boat shell? Or a stuffing box? Or a rudder housing? Or anything else that carries a huge point load? Saying that you should NEVER use 5200, just because you don't know how to remove it is stupid. Ranks right up there with the flat earth idea. Cary on with your chisel, chainsaws and torches, they seem to be working for ya.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 5 лет назад
You sound like one of the few people I'd trust to use 5200 right. You nailed my "few exceptions." Do you build boats?
@PaulRodvik-lx8xk
@PaulRodvik-lx8xk 15 дней назад
Learn about mold release agents
@AK-ki5kz
@AK-ki5kz 8 месяцев назад
Interesting... don't use it if??? If you don't want a really good job? Don't use it if you want something reliable?
@alphawolf6374
@alphawolf6374 4 года назад
Respectfully without watching your entire video I can tell you you're absolutely wrong depending on the application I'm going to watch now and I will tell you why you're wrong I am a professional commercial diver I've used many products underwater nothing on this Earth Works like 5200 there is also a J-B Weld that really works There is a very specific reason and I will explain after I watch
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 4 года назад
Haha, thanks for the view, respectfully. Turns out there is a product that works exactly like 5200; it's 4200 and it will fail before your deck fitting takes a chunk of fiberglass with it. All the love, respectfully! Respecting the shit out of you over her...uuunnggh! Respec on it!
@GB-td6ue
@GB-td6ue 3 года назад
All you've done is prove you don't know how to read, because the sealant stipulates that 5200 is permanent. But you are apparentltly trying to reach a sub-par audience.
@CaptainBoomies
@CaptainBoomies 3 года назад
As long as they're not submariners... those guys are weird.
@werdnadrassel4236
@werdnadrassel4236 2 года назад
All it takes is 200° heat gun why all the dramatic recreation
@NeoMK
@NeoMK 9 месяцев назад
5200 is demon semen. GFYM and de-laminate that boat! Use only below waterline. Otherwise 4k.
@shawndayvis6169
@shawndayvis6169 4 года назад
Lol....it's probably stronger than the fixture.... very funny
@alphawolf6374
@alphawolf6374 4 года назад
Okay I need to see no more you guys are using wrong application shit if you are on dry there's no reason for 5200 unless your internal and if you use 5200 properly prepped properly send it properly choose the appropriate one white green or black you are addressing shit as somebody who is fixing boats in a garage 5200 of the greatest product ever made for underwater repair your experience is limited to comfortable dry work I have reset impellers with 5200 you're absolutely wrong love to take you underwater and show you I've learned the hard way is only two products for underwater use 5200 used correctly you'll rip the gel coat off first
@alphawolf6374
@alphawolf6374 4 года назад
If you speak about a deck I would highly recommend woods liquid nails and then nailing 4200 is a step below I'm surprised it still even made which brings me to This statement I love that we can Disagree and even diplomatically With wit insult one another without having to destroy the And I love our ability to Completely disagree tell each other To pound sand you daft Fool...!! Instead of Belittling berating Insulting And hating one another because of something we see differently or our different experiences that's a huge Testament to you!! I initiated you had every right to be mean it shows that you are of solid integrity values ideals morals etc And the big reason to speak to one another In try To understand one another is because sometimes we're not even speaking in the same Context.... Like for instance I am completely speaking as an underwater application which is completely different then top I know nothing and I am certain there are so many more products available for top above water bonding I know there are I'm using one right now at home If you cannot haul your boat in you are forced 2 make a repair under water in the ocean... 5200 black is All there is that will even Bond at all . In fact it's mindboggling as to how amazing it Works in an underwater setting I started with the white one and it was garbage there is AJB Weld underwater patch that is also good but any other 5200 but the black 1 underwater application salt water anyway is a sure fix till you can fix it permanently lol and I am sure 4200 is the way to go on a deck and I'm really appreciate somebody like you
@andyglade5522
@andyglade5522 4 месяца назад
Dumbest video of the day award
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