@matthewwebber4763 yes this is very true my friend. After those 3 or 4 people drowned there (not due to cliff jumping ) I might add. They enforce the private property really hard now. I'm sure people still go. But from what I know they don't mess around there anymore they will ticket you at the very least . Which is too bad because I'm in turner valley and seebe was.the closest large cliff for me.