57mm Guided Ammunition 

Bro’s trying to remake the IJN Type 3 AA shell (It’s actually available in 14”, 16” and 46cm versions)

recommissioning them would need a complete engine and boiler replacement. That means disassembling 1/3 of the entire ship (cutting away the superstructure and the entire middle section between the gun turrets down to the waterline), and then engineering a new steam engine system which hasnt been build in the US for decades. Shoving a gas turbine system in there is probably even harder because you need to redesign the entire system and the entire interieur. At the end of their service life the Iowas had been down to a max speed of under 30 knots, since their turbine and boiler system is simply worn out. Historically, battleships had their engine systems replaced after around 25 years or so for the same reasons. Also, battleships like the Iowas are useless in modern combat, even if you give them guided shells. Their armor is useless, they lack VLS, and they lack modern electronic systems (radar, communcation systems, electronic warfare, datalinks, etc etc), and to give them that would be far too complicated, since you would also need to replace basically the enitre ships interieur electronic systems. Building a giant missile battleship from scratch would be much more useful and probably cheaper lol.

@@xxnightdriverxx9576 Minor nitpick: They do have all the fancy radar and electronic systems (Up to 1980s standards)

@@ZaHandle correct, and those are over 40 years out of date now. Not exactly fancy at all. Their radars, comms etc are very bad compared to modern ones. If they would go back into service all that stuff would need to be updated to be worth it, and at that point you are also replacing every second wire in the ship.

I doubt it would be worth wasting 406mm shells on drones and small boats.

Or shares in the company

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A battleship in the age of drones? Tell me you're a boomer without telling me you're a boomer. ;)

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wont help you if the jet is supermaneuverable tho

defend car from fighter jets? I was going to get this for goose hunting.

i had the same sequence of recommendations too..

@@Invisty :(

A man of culture I see

a better solution is honestly the Italian 76mm Sovrapente gun system. It has a nice array of different ammunitons, has longer effective range, and does not have a deck penetrating mount. That means you can mount it anywhere, you dont need to reconstruct some parts of the ship, you can slap it on top of a hangar if you want for example. Far more versatile for refits of existing ships than something like the 57mm.

for example excalibur is kinda expansive, whats the price of that above one?

Bad news! These 57mm rounds almost certainly cost at least 50,000 dollars

@@jorgenguyen7641 not if they are only laser guided and have no INS (intertial) type back up. That type of missile/projectile has been done before. Eg Copperhead from the US. TEF

"low cost" lmao, good one.

It knows where it is but does it know what it is? Can it be conscious? How conscious? Can it make me a picture of a human with a seal face. Or just a seal with a really big face next to a human?

classic

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Kamala Harris, is that you with a burner account?

Go away

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@@DOI_ARTS you made a typo, they installed a plane over their gun.

@@ImMrFlannel Don't be too harsh, it's a common mistake

@@ImMrFlannel ha ha ha for real 😂😂😂

Been watching The Fat Electrician?

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He stammers in mortified embarrassment... Everybody snickers at the West Coast gangster rap playlists... Everybody except Dr Dre, who begins clapping slowly & forcefully.

Aft PGK variant i think: dual spin projectile

@@LongerLasting Possibly? Not much in the ways of detail to go by.

⁠@@merlepattersonif you look at the round being handled @1:37 it appears to have small fins at the base. Similar to the small, fixed canards that PGK has up front.

@@LongerLasting Or Excaliber. Or it could be using small, one-shot side thrusters that were tested on 40mm round all the way back in the late 80s.

If that is a swash plate in the back section (almost looks like a bellows) how does it survive the g force of the shot? Sick tech.

It is not like the rugby fans would buy those ammunitions.

Only shoot toward what you want to kill. Same as how most anti ship missiles work

They have fins that come out during flight similar to the Excalibur round.

A wise armourer would be extra careful handling these rounds. You wouldn't want to be too rough and piss one off.

Like pretty much all missiles fire and forget systems

BAE’s ORKA round is even better.

@@tonywood3660 🤣

literally they did it for Mk 45 earlier, they just make the 57mm version

Next gen toaster will guide toast onto your plate

@@YoChocolate maybe. I know that my robot vacuum does a pretty good job getting around.

I'm looking forward to Amazon's new artillery powered delivery system

@@witherspoon1995 🤣

So cool it's something that exists by decades now and this Is Just a copy

Yes, everyone knows about Oto. Thing is, guided cannon munitions are questionable and are still being investigated. I think the main advantage is how much you can store. Cant store many missiles

@@honkhonk8009 yes you're right

Are they able to hit moving targets though? I know there are plenty of 76 and 155 mm artillery and cannon munitions with GPS and IMU based course correction capabilities, but they're all meant for stationary targets. This 57 mm guided projectile however claims it can even be used against fast moving targets, which is much harder.

@@pieterveenders9793 the strales system can hit targets up to 8 km of distance (maximum range tested) with the guided ammunition. It can change its trajectory while in air like a missile and is fast enough to hit fast moving targets like missiles, which is why it replaced all existing CIWS on Italian warships.

Same thing with drones. Stick a miniature HEAT in a drone, or just small amount C4, contact fuse. Or even proximity fuse detonation. Scary as puck! Saw a video about this on YT...

umagonna change dat.

nah it self selects targets so its addressed: "to whom it may concern"

free dome iz spencive.

President Eisenhower warned us. And he should know.

Mostly to foreign "allies " picking off women and children

Yeah it’s time the civilians start buying burkes for themselves

Nothing is low cost about the US MIC.

@@cybervigilanteI should say lower cost. The alternative is a missile that may cost more than $1 million per shot.

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Yeah, I hope you’re being sarcastic. I think they just left it off the graphic. There is no way that think of God itself without fins.

@@hardheadjarhead reaction wheels

@@hardheadjarhead ever heard of a gyroscope?

It has fins that come out during flight similar to the Excalibur shell. You can google pics of it.

I'm guessing it's not shown for security purposes, as an internal gyro would be somewhat impractical

Internal translation or rotation of some mass: typically the warhead or GNC

Or you have two independently spinning masses connected by a bearing: the aft portion of the shell here might be similar to PGK Aft.

Jeez, tell us something we don't know!

Probably bearings, the French have HEAT ammo with bearings to avoid the decrease of penetration cuz the hollow shape charge spinning move... And the trajectory change... I don't know... small nozzles as the Gyrojet 60's rocket round?

BB in modern warfare is a joke blud 155 MM AGS can do better (but the cost per rounds is so expensive) but still better than bring old cannon to battlefield. Missouri will easily targeted by drone/missile/suicidal boat swarm since her cannon only have 40 km range

Same

Or it's just a trade secret.

@@r-saint The contract’s only been awarded since October 2023

​@@ZaHandle The theoretical feasibility has to be proven before the contract is even awarded.

Feasibility tests occurs before the contract is written.

​ we have multiple types of rounds that guide themselves

Classified bruh

Thrust vectoring?

Rotating mass mounted on a giro I think. Satellites use something akin to that.

Mumble mumble "AI" mumble.

The Force™

magic

Actually the italian company Oto-melara developed these projectiles at least a decade ago

No it is a cheap round

Hey, just what you see, pal.

Perhaps compromise at 20mm? Radar tracker is kinda wider than 5.56

Yes, but in terms of a percentage of the military budget, this is much cheaper. The US can afford to have more of these rounds than an enemy can afford drones. Besides, that drone in the animation probably costs more like $20,000; this is for things like TB-2 type drones and weaponized speedboats, which are pretty close to the cost of the rounds. The really cheap drones will be dealt with mostly using high-powered jammers and other electronic warfare equipment.

Still cheaper than a missile.

Happy to report only $18379 /round based on a contract for 808 rounds back 2020 😃

@@user936 See that's my tactic, I just throw out a number until someone online corrects me lol.

You're saying the ship should let the drone attack it. That's really a good idea (sarcasm)

But it could also be genuinely good tho.

There is no wrong finding about it, we military enthusiasts love to learn.

My guess is it’s a trade-off at long ranges between spending on a few expensive shells that are all guaranteed to hit versus a lot a cheap shells, of few of which will hit. I’m not sure which is better in a given situation.

@@augusthoglund6053 Assuming this round works as advertised, it seems like it would be better in cases where risk of saturation attack is high (higher kill probability, less ammo usage) or for a ship's direct defense where being economical doesn't matter. Basically, just lets you store more "intercepts" on a ship at a given time.

​@@MysticEagle52 Fair assessment

It’s just fins on the back. It’s physically can’t turn back on you (See: Momentum)

Besides it can’t turn that much as shown in the video (neither does the boat tbh, unless it’s literally dodging a supersonic ammunition)

I guess it depends on where you aim it

​@@ZaHandleyou think this cartoon is an accurate representation?

@@rogerthat4545 ,i was thinking that in a real life situation there is some room for possible error, "I guess it depends on where you aim it" 👈🏻that kind of thing.

search BAE Systems ORKA One Shot One Kill Round for 57mm Gun at SNA 2016

@@yafarid Thanks, nice video. I also expected fins, but why do they not show once this ammunition with fins here? Either bad footage or they use some kind of inertia control. UPDATE Indeed, no fins but ABM with the A for Aft. Aka most likely the projectile spins and uses an Aft thruster. Ignited at the right moment and asymmetrical arranged it can push the projectile in the right direction. Since it is a development coming from space technology, fins would be completely useless and all makes sense.

It's not classified, you can google pictures of the demo prototype and see the pop out fins. It's not that old tech, Excalibur uses similar guidance.

@@TheSwegBucket have u ever heard of somthing called a joke ?

Im sure northnop can bring it down to a more reasonable $750,000 per shot but with a 1 year shelf life

@@roywhiteo5 What a bargain, black Friday special.

Different type of round. Besides, the reason why the AGS rounds are so expensive is because the cost of developing them ended up being spread across like three hundred shells. If they had made the ten thousand shells that were originally ordered, the price per unit would have been much less.

You can get Italian VULCANO 155mm guided range extended shells (pretty much the same specs as the shells the Zumwalts were supposed to have) for around 100.000-150.000€ per shell. So a fraction of what the US cost estimate was. And those shells are already in production for quite some time, the US could have just bought some. But no, a license production is not good enough, they have to design and develop their own only to cancel them due to cost, which defeats the purpose of the entire ship class. A MASSIVE failure of the US military industrial complex, and they are too embarrassed to buy a license production from Italy, which would allow them to get the shells they need for a fraction of the cost.

​@@xxnightdriverxx9576Which is schizophrenic, because guess who makes most Naval Autocannons? "Otobreda" (sorry if i misspelled that). I guess the DoD is just reeeeeeeally worried about supply security :)

I imagine it could be available as an upgrade package for U.S. allies and partners who already operate 57mm AA guns. If the upgrade package performs well, that might indicate it’s time to invest in making a new self-propelled version.