6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5x55 Swedish 

Yeah, but it doesn't have the "cool hipster hotness factor" of the Creedmoor! 😅 The USA is very good at marketing and selling new stuff. 6.5x55 and 260 Remington are great rounds.

I agree, I get about 100fps more from my 6.5x55 than the 6.5 creedmore by hand loading... My rifle is a modern one, not 100 years old...

@@Eddy7848 It's mainly the short action aspect i feel that makes the 6.5CM more popular nowadays. I can buy many of the popular rifles here in sweden in x55, like the t3x, bergara, sauer, mauser, blaser. But we also have much more shooters of x55, so used rifles are cheap (and often really good!), x55 ammo is the cheapest you can get - 308 is approaching those levels though. I love the X55, I had a sauer 101 in it. But as we can own limited nr of guns, I had to sell it to swap rifles around. But now i have a Bergara in 6.5CM. But I reload, but its nice to use the same bullets and powders for them. I went CM because of the SA - more compability with 3rd party stocks primary.

The factory loads in the Swede are anemic not because of old Mausers but because of old krag Jorgensens. Which do have a weak action.

@@ryanupchurch9683 I should have mentioned that. The Krag-Jorgen in 6.5x55 is very rare in the US. They weren't imported like the Swedish Mausers. Carl Gustaf or Husqvarna were. As far as I know, the 30-40's were all U.S. built.

It's not that simple, one of the major advantages of 6.5 Creedmoor is that it fits in 308 magazines which are very common in North America

Don't forget about 260 Remington! 😉 The obsession with "short action" rifles is a bit inane. A half inch longer receiver really makes no difference in hunting rifles. Now they're reinventing 6.5x284 with 6.5 PRC. The gun industry has to come up with new calibers if they want to sell new rifles... 😏

the 260 Rem should of been the big seller years ago, however you need rifles in that chambering.@@Eddy7848

My 6.5x55 m96 is 106yrs old has no rust ,i'v read the is mild steel,copper& nickel ,It Carl Gustafs Stads.

Agreed.

Tikka T3 6.5x55 130 grain Accubond 2500, all I use on deer and antelope

Tikka is plastic my friend. Husqvarna all day everyday

@@NorwegianViking86 wood stock has to count for something 🤔 I sure do harvest what I'm hunting 🙂

I have the M70 6.5SE stainless. If the bolt is tight pop off the extractor ring and polish the groove as the machining is rough . If it scrapes brass off the case the extractor claw needs a little attension to make the rim groove sit in the claw . I have worked up a 100gr load using nosler tipped bullets and plan to use barns 100gr for larger game like red deer . ADI 2209 /H4350 is the best powder so far 3400fps at max book load. 3150fps is where the accuracy node is . The twist (1:9) is a little slow for the heavier bullets ,yet with the modern action one should be able to move them a little quicker .

@@paulsouth4794 awesome. thank you. I'll do that.. thank you

I've got a zastava m70 in 6.5x55. only shot it at the range so far but it shot under an inch 5 shot group with my hand loads. 129grain Hornady SST.

I gotta bug you about the data. May I ask what powder you are using for the 2900? I already loaded up 140's rem pspclkt to 2800 from my 23.5 bbl. thanks!

Yeah,those Europeans get pretty wild with their shooting.😎

Cartridge performance hasn't changed a lot in 100 years. The creedmoor is more efficient and uses a shorter case but that doesn't matter if the rifles designed for it use long actions for all cartridges (and many do).

A while back I bought a Tikka T3X in 6.5 x 55 and a lot of people here in Hawaii just were not familiar with it. I knew of this cartridge from long ago when I used to hunt in Pennsylvania ( we had a friend that had a converted Mauser that was chambered in it). After seeing my rifle shoot, they were pretty impressed by it. That Tikka I have is under a half inch @ 100 yards with almost all of my handloads, absolutely outstanding and with great ballistics. This is my "go to" rifle now and I don't see a need for another rifle chambered in anything else.

@@TheIrishd501 I am a Pennsylvania hunter and the 6.5x55mm is quite popular here and I use two Swedish Mauser's myself. One is an M-94 carbine and the other is an M-96 rifle.

Yep Hornady reinvented the wheel 😮😅🎉😂

@@Huntinggearguy The creedmoor makes sense if you live in the USA and can't get the 6.5x55 at a reasonable price. If you can get both at a reasonable price, or if you live in Scandinavia, the Creedmoor makes no sense: 140gr bullet (rough numbers): SAAMI 6.5x55 350MPa 810-820m/s 6.5 Creedmoor 435MPa, 830m/s CIP/SKAN 6.5x55 380MPa 860-880m/s Home loaded max (max pressure minus a little for safety). 6.5x55 415MPa, 900-920m/s

2450 feet or 750 m/s is not slow by any stretch. You have to consider the ranges they are used for aswell - they are not 500 yard bullets after all. But the flat head design makes them really effective.

@@jmkhenka Round nose, not flat head.

I believe you meant lower pressure gives longer barrel life. That is more true when going to smaller caliber rounds, like 7.62mm to 6.5mm with essentially the same powder capacity and pressure.

But x55 and CM is made in the same barrel lenghts now. And the powders used are almost identical - The higher volume of the x55 allows for a tiny bit slower powders - but reloading them you can basicly use the same powders with no issue. but then we have muzzle pressure - the x55 is a bit louder :)

Not that I've found.

No.

25-06 cooks

I have a friend who hunts just about everything on thing on the North American continent with the 6.5-06. He thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. With the 6.5mm/.264" bullet in the the '06 case you can get close to .264 Winchester Magnum velocities with all the ballistic advantages of the 6.5mm/.264" bullet over both the .257" and .308" diameter bullets. Better ballistic coefficient and better sectional density with bullets of the the SAME WEIGHT. I shoot rifles including one 6.5x55, chambered in cartridges with bullet diameters from .224 to .458. Only one called a Magnum in the bunch (300 H&H) and nothing introduced in the last 30 years. Most of those types were solutions to a non-existent problem. If I wanted a 6.5mm cartridge hotter than my Swede, the 6.5-06 would be my choice. You should go ahead and buy yourself a Christmas present. There are a lot of rifles easily re-barreled to 6.5-06. I think you'll be happy. Happy hunting! 😊

That would be about the same as the 6.5x284 a lot of long range bench rest shooters use. 🙂

@@davewinter2688 Easily, hands down if I ever can build a wildcat it will be the 6.5-06 or the A.I. variant of it.

Reloads? That speed is a lot higher than I'm seeing for factory loads

@@Huntinggearguy Correct. The factory ammo is very lightly loaded because of the thousands of 100 y.o. rifles still used around the world. Every manufacturer plays safe..

Why

I believe the Creedmoor was made for niche short action rifles, such as the AR-10; which are now banned in Canada. 😡 Manufacturers know they need support for new calibers, so they hyped it up to ensure it's popularity and survival.

Its not overrated. Its a good caliber with modern "features". But cartridge design has been perfected for almost 100 years. Much smarter people has allready done all there is to do with a copper casing, the 6.5x55 is proof of that.