(Part 3) Have you ever got your artwork stolen before? Part 1: • 0.0069 seconds after p... Part 2: • 4.20 seconds after pos... I make digital art, mostly digital paintings. Follow me here: Instagram: / ronillust Twitter: / ronillust
On an app that's now shut down, I made an art gift for someone. They edited it the SMALLEST bit (as in it took them pointing it out and me looking really hard to see it) and got way more likes, comments, and even noticed by the creator of the app- meanwhile mines had 1 like. B r u h
want me to steal a couple pieces just to get you happy? /j (seriously, I won't do that shit, it's worse than catfishing, no matter if it's with secret permission or not)
I remember this discussion on twitter I saw where a guy had reached around 3k followers with only retweeting and reposting art. Someone in the comments there asked if he was planning on crediting the artist who actually made it and he got blocked from that account with alot of vulgar language. Worst thing is that his community was defending him instead of the guy who wanted the artists to be credited...
Not only on twitters. Those translated mangas, manhwas, etc have the same problem. Artists never received any requests for permissions. People don't go to support the artists on the official sites.
It's funny. Especially on reddit and twitter, you can say, "this person just stole it, they didn't even credit the source." Everyone will reply, "no one cares, who cares." But at the same time, they cry over AI art. lmao No one wants to change the system, they just want to get clout for crying about the system.
@@second_second_ translated manga/manhwa isn't the same problem. 1) the artist is credited, the manga is credited, everybody got credited, nobody translate a manga and remove any ways to trace it back to the author. 2) most manga/manhwa are translated because there isn't any translation available in english or the translated language. (even for the ones where official translation exist, people have to wait for full books to be published and are months or years late) 3) There is an actual work done (even if with AI some groups only put the minimal amount possible) 4) They don't sell the translation.
Last year I found a whole collection of my artworks available online in a book that was being sold, I had to meesage the publishing company that were selling the book and ask them to take down the listing. After sending them links to all the places my artworks where taken from (Deviantart, ArtStation,Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram) they eventually took the listing down, however I was suprised that they even went ahead in the first place as my watermarks/digital signature was still on a few of the works! It's for sure annoying getting art stolen and resold however I guess i'm lucky that it has only ever happened once to me, my friend who is a photgrapher seems to deal with this kind of stuff on the daily!
The point of watermarks is not to stop people from stealing art, it's to make it possible to find the original artist when lazy reposters literally just download and repost the piece without doing anything to it.
I think this is just in general, not only in art. You get copied and stolen everywhere, and it’s just worse if they get more from it than you. I had this a lot, i’ve made things that took me 5 weeks, and it would just get stolen. Worse, it would become more popular, because the people would name it “2” or “but better” and it is mildly infuriating. I have learned one thing from it, though. If you really want to stop the stealing, just search for a more mature audience, an audience that is amazed by your talent, and admires it.
This is why I am afraid of posting my art on social media. Even though the only thing I wanna be is an artist. The only place where I post my art is a app called Sketch a Day. I never got my art stolen and I did have one person recreating my OC and credit me.
Once I posted some art of Chun Li and someone stole it. The next day I find that a couple hours after I posted it someone copied it, called it theirs, and their followers started bashing ME for copying them. It eventually got resolved because the person who stole it admitted to it... at least until a month later when they tried to blame it on me again for some reason. In the end my drawing ended up more popular, but jeez was that infuriating 😅
@@roman.fyodorov well, if someone is making money with your art, you just have to send a request to the court so you etheir : take all the earned money that a companie / persone is making out of your consent. Or , take down images and art who are illegitimately seen as theirs. No atorney is require for this , just a proof of the paternity of your art. The best way to do that is to make a bot who can regonise your art on internet and scan every corner of it . I did that time to time and when i unconter a copy of my art on merchan website , i put legal actions. Most of the time , they get rid of my art . But sometime they dont...ho boy , i made money out of their malice. I have a deal with some of my stealers. I get 70% of the money or they get rid of it . ;)
That actually sounds horrible I’d probably cry in your situation, but then get really angry and spam speed paints and other art of mine as proof of the art style…is what I would want to do but in reality I would just say it was mine then go cry lol, horrible situation to be in I feel so bad, glad it was resolved
It's 3D render in my case so it's different but what I did was making an outfit with my big 75 logo on the middle of the T-shirt, so even if it gets stolen it remains as a key part on the render and it can't be removed without ruining the render or making it blatantly obvious that it's stolen.
Put your mark on the actual center of the piece. Incorporate it into the important part by putting it in the wrinkles of the clothes or hair or along the rim of glasses. If it’s on the main subject it makes it a little harder to steal it.
You could do that, however, I feel like if you put it on something in the background people who really want to steal it or hide that its yours will be able to hide it easier. That’s especially true if it’s noticeable. That’s just my opinion though and I really like your cloud idea.
I did this with a character of mine. The watermark was literally a pattern on the body. Basically a “fuck you. Goodluck photoshopping this complex pattern to look right now” to thieves
@@kayleedoyle3634 one could do an incredibly obvious watermark though with a small subtle one that is barely visible that is seperate. The person would take off the obvious one and might miss the extremely subtle one on the object. Just a thought since technically one could remove any mark with the editing programs out there. It's kind of turned into a game of "how to hide my signature" 😑 tis why I won't post any of the art I'm doing for my girlfriend for a dnd book freelance project. Can't steal what was never there. I asked her to add watermarks for any of the promo images. My art is for that project and that project alone. Hate art thiefs they are the worst 😡
Art fixers are the worst, I had this one guy who was critiquing my last bust piece I made, and the dude just shoved aside what I was trying to do and ruined the part-cartoony design I was going for. It was so infuriating that I called my piece done and took a break for a few weeks. edit: grammar
@@JamesTDG yeah critiques is one thing, but "fix" someone work totally ruin the art they intended for, they also don't know the artist vision. If they really want fix it a simple guide would be enough instead change it without permission, if people like that in past I'm sure we won't see piece of art like Picasso and Van Gogh work.
@AXOLOTL IN A BUCKET art thief only stole your art, meanwhile fixer steal it with extra word bundle they doesn't hesitate to give bad mark on you, bring racial topic, saying your work is worst without giving proper critique that combination can make artist down and quit.
Sigh… This is so painfully accurate… I’m tired of all these art thieves stealing our WORK… It’s already hard enough to make it as an artist… Let alone with fools reposting our WORK and gaining views and likes that would have benefitted us the artists.
Same and I hate it, I see artwork and I go: "WHO MADE THAT??? I WANNA SEE MORE OF THEIR WORK!" **poster doesn't give credit** But where it's REALLY bad, is quora, literally no one, especially the pokmon community there, would give credit, you'd have to ask or reverse search it, sometimes they don't even know cuz they found it in Pinterest and didnt look for the source and then just repost it without looking at the artist's permissions One Japanese artist im a really big fan of was victim to this, its so common for him he has to put IN ENGLISH ON HIS ART that reposting isnt allowed... His art is reposted everywhere, people repost it on Pinterest and quora and give no credit, and when you ask quorian's "Oh idk I found it on Pinterest, didnt rly check to see if it was ok to repost his art" Like obviously most people arent gonna be ok with reposting someone's artwork, especially when you throw it round Willy nilly like its some adobe stock photo, cuz its not, its someone's work that they made for fun, not for others to use Sry rant, but seriously it pissed me off alot, I will admit I did do this once for short while, but then stopped and quit quora, man its a fucked up website
one thing i suggest doing is using textures and/or putting the signature on a gradient or important part of the piece! i personally use a noise texture bc it also fits for me.
I always follow and get others interested in people's art,and if they don't want it reposted,I respect that and give them my adoration on their talent,I'm working to get that good at art and always wanna be friends with people so we can have fun and help learn more about drawing,it's honestly dumb that people take their time to steal then just learn to draw themselves 🤦♀️
@@squirtle3744 What I do is practice by tracing simple pictures,like starting practicing characters shapes and poses,then once you get better at that,try eyes and other features,after you can be able to do it on your own without needing a guide.Its how I was able to get better and know how to do it at least.People like to say that isn't real drawing,but it actually helps you focus on how to draw just by looking at something,then your imagination can truly take flight 👍 Professionals do this too so hope it helps😁
Never posted my stuff online, but one tip I was told in college: If someone is passing your art off as their own, comment and ask them how long it took them to make it. If they aren't an artist they'll likely have no idea how long this actually should take and expose themselves pretty easily. No idea how effective it is and obviously doesn't do much to merch sellers that just ghost you.
Unfortunately, the time people take on art varies so strongly that it doesn't really follow through, especially since most of the audience are not artists and thus will not have a frame of reference to know if the person is just really fast/really meticulous. Sometimes people draw a flatcolor that looks really good in only 15 minutes because they're comfortable with their style and it could effectively be a doodle with color slapped on, but to others a piece of similar quality might have taken three hours because they spend a lot of time perfecting the linework and don't have as much confidence in their strokes nor practice with the particular style they're working with. Obviously in cases like this video where it's a fully rendered piece there's a certain "minimum" you expect, but most people can just say "it took X hours" and not sound off, and even if it does sound a bit off, to someone who doesn't know who the original artist is, it'd suck major ass to accuse someone of lying only to find out they weren't lying and just happen to draw faster than usual, or were just making an inaccurate guess based on not having timed their process. (Time flies when you're having fun - I've thought I drew something in like 3 hours before only to realise later from checking WIP timestamps that it was more like 7.)
Dont you have the PSD (Or other depends on program you use) File where you can just show the layers references and etc ? Im pretty sure person stealing that art wouldnt have it. Unless you posted it.
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@@atocanboi409 A friend taught me that earlier this year and it was instrumental in my newfound obsession. I've also found that the arrow keys go a little bit further so if you're trying to adjust more, then adjust a tiny bit, you can get that freeze frame for sure!
I think I'm blind or something, 'cause I literally can't see it anywhere in the video 😭 A lot of people are posting the text in the comments, but is it displayed in nanoseconds that my eyes can't see it??
I have resorted to put a watermark the size of my whole art that looks like a part of the art but actually is just my name. I sign a different version of it and overlay with two different layers using different blending type every time so it's not really reversable. If someone still was to steal it, honestly what the hell
There's just a lot of people out there that don't understand what it's like to have your shit taken like this. They think they're doing a favor by "spreading it", like they're helping the artist get exposure or something. Sincerely, genuinely, they don't understand that it's wrong and they never will, until someone takes something that is theirs. There are few things out there that fill me with more hatred and disgust than art thieves. Not the ones that just repost it somewhere, but the people that take it and make money off of it, like T-shirt companies that don't give two shits about it. I truly wish harm on such people.
well I don't mind it, not like they are going to make t shirt in the first place, as long it doesn't make a loss for the artist I really don't care if it's spread or used
That argument makes sense when the name is given and the artwork is unmodified. But there is literally no one who modified artwork to remove ALL aspects of credit that does it to "spread it" if it's a giant watermark in the middle of the work? I can see that. But they should still supply the original artist and not profit from it. Though at that point the artist should really transition if that's the lengths they are going.
The worst I have had with my art was a „manga artist“ stealing art all over the internet and then he remembered I had posted artwork that would also fit his stolen story and he blandly asks me if I could send him my art since he is to lazy to scroll down my page. When I told him that I didn’t want my art reused and stolen (I didn’t said stolen but something like: used commercially without my consent) he was super upset and then tried to actually find my artpiece but I took it down minutes prior since I was guessing where that one was headed. This lazy piece of shit dared not only to regularly steal artwork from other not so well known creators but was also to fucking lazy so he wanted me to do the only work he had left to do with stealing my stuff too
When art is stolen, it's a sad time. But when it's stolen and then sold on a t-shirt, despite this being so much worse, this is when there's less you can do because this is all done automatically by bots for a scammer company that knows it will never face consequences. It's insane that when it gets this bad it somehow becomes harder to fight. All you can do is spread the word on which sites are responsible for stealing art, and there's just so many that this becomes tough. Even if you've not had art stolen yet, if you are an artist, spreading the word helps. It's all we can do. Sadly and confusingly, I've only ever seen one person ever post about it. Seems most artists wait until it happens to them personally to bring it up, and more often than not they're luckily stolen from by just a stupid individual and not a scam group. Get that awareness out there, name the culprits, spread it. Fans care more about supporting their artists than they do about a lower price. And I have proof of that after getting some free paintings that a fan threw out after finding out they were stolen. Fans really care.
I saw many artists put their signature and do not repost | do not reprint on the clothes of the character or as tattoo and etc., like it's part of a picture, like print on the T-shirt, or badge, or the same way as a clothing brand would put its name on the things. Sometimes I like to spend a few extra minutes to look at the art and try to find the artist's signature on it, it feels very exiting to finally spot it. I saw some cool solutions like one artist put their tag as the design of the umbrella character was holding, and it looked very organic and felt like a natural part of the art.
Best way to make it harder to steal art is to make sure where you sign too detailed to recreate easily, and also put it close to the focal point, so they can’t crop it
I'm a smart person but you must be one of the first people other than me to be even smarter than me. For your vocabulary is just too complex. I will place a bet that you can also recite over 10 digits of pi. But that is unlikely and I might just be a very unique person in that case. Now explain to me what the hell you are saying.
@@DashenBoi Okay so, the focal point is where you want somebody to look, when looking at your art. You should put your signature near there, so if people notice a weird splotch of colour over something it would look sketch’, plus the art stealer can just crop out your signature. 2nd thing I said, is to put your signature over a more detailed part, so it is hard to recreate, and paint over. Also 3.1415926535897932384626433832, that is the farther I can remember it.
It is a crime, just a 'less important' one. There's little money to gain in the court if you're not a big shot. Sometimes a even slap by legal won't work either, in the case of minors and differing laws because of country. Us artists deserve much more respect, the world would crumble without us. Everything we as humans have made can be considered some form of art I believe, so there would be nothing.
Dude, I feel ya on the stealing part. Like I can't even get a commission by some of the artist without someone stealing my character(s) looks and ideas. Love the title you did lol
My girlfriend's art has ended up on hundreds of apparel links. Pain in the butt to deal with. A lot of her Count Duckula fanart got stolen... and ironically the current owners of Count Duckula mistakenly used her fanart as official art in some places, too. lmao
This is why I put watermarks all over my art before posting it online in any other layer mode than "normal". This inspires me to litter my art with even more, smaller watermarks!
it hurts worse when you get your shit minted against your will. Also, to splash acid on the injury, people thinking that you stole from an NFT. That's right, there are people out there who think legitimate artists are stealing from illegally minted tokens.
I remember when i had someone steal one of my pieces for the first time. felt pretty bad. now i don't really care all that much. there are plenty of people who use reverse image search on such accounts to find the original artist. as such these guys kinda end up being a free advertisment for you.
Honestly this is why I'm afraid to post my art. I don't think I'm good enough that someone would steal it but I still get afraid especially if I've spent over 6 hours on it
I really like that text at the end there. Reminds me of that royal honey episode of futurama where Leela kept being told to wake up and just couldn't understand. Honestly, probably my favorite episode.
This is why I put my logo on everything I draw it won't stop the people who are absolutely dedicated to steal but it will stop those who can't be bothered to edit it out
My tip is to put the water mark in a place like the inside of a had and make it very subtle so it wouldn’t be noticed unless you knew it was there or pointed it out.
That's why I don't like to post mine and tell my sis to be careful posting her's. But you want and need to get your art out there so it's like...🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
I like it when people just take cool looking art they find online and use it as a youtube thumbnail to guarantee themselves more clicks, while usually also not crediting who actually made it
Yeah these people are shitty. When i worked on the channel I'd just make the thumbnail/any art required in that myself. It didn't look good but i don't have to remember to credit anyone
ooh! never had to deal with this, but as a fun project I used to work my signature into my lineart, so you couldnt share/repost without my name being 60% of the drawing
put a obvious watermark to stray away most reposters. And a watermark in the middle of the artwork, blend it well so it wouldnt be obvious at a first glance but can still be seen when looked closely at that specific spot. The obvious watermark can bait redrawers and prob wouldnt notice your blended watermark at all.
The only way to not get your logo removed is by making it a part of your art piece. If you're just sticking it in there, even I can take it off with Photoshop or any other editing software. Granted, the photoshoped piece won't be an exact replica of the original, but it'll be close enough for no one to notice. And users don't give a tinker's damn about an art piece's origin unless it's popular (that's another solution to your problem).
Oooo so that's what people mean when they say don't steal! I always thought they meant someone taking their art and tracing it or claiming the art is theirs.
Taking their art and tracing it or claiming the art is theirs is also stealing like the one in the video. The video is just using one out of many examples of stealing
One thing I could think of to counter the stealing is to make the art being stolen have a risky history. Like the artist making lewd or NSFW stuff. Oh wait but then again, a different group (cough cough* crap ads filled with viruses *cough cough) would steal it. Well shit
Mate, you are maybe not the best artist out there and your tutorials might not be the better ones, but you always nail it! You always make me laugh, pls keep the good work (and humor) up!! 😍😍😍
Here is how to make sure your signature is still there. Many artist tools can use the "bucket" in a way that it blends all colors similar to it like gms8.1 editor. So to save your art what you can do is pixelart your name in the artpiece itself with an opposite color that still looks cool. For example here you could've done it at the hair.
Which is why it's better to work for companies, they can afford to pay way more and if it got stolen it's their problem not yours. Personal work is still good for portfolio for getting a job even if someone stole it for a t-shirt.
Honestly, whoever is stealing your art I hope they get helplessly stuck in a ravine filled with ravenous venomous tetanus written spiders Also, technically is someone retweets your art it will still have your pfp and username on the post, but if someone takes the photo then it’s stealing.
And this is why you license/copyright your artworks. Apparently there are people who are really good at tracing or redrawing art. Alternatively to prove that you actually made the art, post it, keep it private for like a week and then make it public so people can check the date it was posted. Also, you make great things bro, amazing artwork. :)
@@ohshinoyoku that's literally theft. Copyright/licensing can protect you from that in most cases. Just make sure your work is copyright protected so you can claim/strike unauthorized use/editing/redistribution.
@@C_Corpze Promoting a system that is abused to no end is how bad blood gets worse. Copyrighting is an intellectual claims racket, which benefits the highest bidder. It’s not just, nor effective. It’s inherently corrupt. Stealing means physically taking something that leaves the original source damaged or tampered with. Copying by definition is not stealing. It’s conflating an issue of disagreement and trickery that’s a civil dispute with what is in a different case a criminal dispute. Tricksters and scammers in the end out themselves and blacklist their own name and brand, because of how word of mouth works. The nature of creativity and art deems that creators have a finite resource in their own skills and talent. That’s what builds up an audience and loyal following who can take the time to authenticate and identify anyone else who’s faking their identity as another creator. Expecting a punitive system of law to remedy a social disagreement online or involving the public perception of someone’s reputation actually worsens the conflict by preemptively escalating it.
@@C_Corpze idk much about copyright laws but aren’t they difficult to enforce on the internet? And in the time they take to be enforced, the artwork would still get more views and more credit? Hate what legitimate artists have to go through.
