Another thing to consider is how much time you want to spend tinkering or working on your printer. This is somewhat related to the reliability point, but some people love to spend as much time modifying and making their printer work as they do printing (which is a fun hobby). And some people just want to print. The home 3D printer world is just now emerging from the hot rod era that cars went through decades ago.
Very good point! While this video was a high level overview, I am doing a video that's a lot more detail oriented as far as picking a printer. I appreciate the feedback!
I would go so far as to say this is the single most important thing in 2023. Almost EVERY "this is a good starter printer" recommendation starts from the assumption that the user wants to tinker with and modify their printer. The result is people like me who follow those suggestions and then find ourselves spending all our time screwing around with the printer instead of being able to turn our imaginations into physical things. I bought an Ender-5 and the only reason I didn't just set it on fire about three months in to owning it was I'm too poor to just abandon all that money. But I genuinely wish I'd saved for three or four more months and bought a Prusa instead. So. Many. Times. I got home from a long day at work and discovered that, instead of having a relaxing evening working on my projects, I had to spend the time fixing the damn printer, again. So, yeah. Before you even get to "budget" you should decide what you want to *do* with the printer, and if the answer is "I just want it to work and not think about it too much," save more money, expand your budget, and buy a Prusa or a Bambu or something like that. Following the "get something in your budget" advice made my introduction to 3d printing really rough. Saving up and buying an expensive but easy to use X1C has made me like 3d printing again.
@@davydatwood3158 I’m currently looking at the less than 1 k range. I could stretch my budget, but what makes the x1c so much better? I’m also the kind of person that gets upgraditis, so Mandy if I go with this I won’t need to?
@@jeffvillagomez3404 For me personally the big features are the all-in-one nozzle and throat (I've destroyed three different hotends on an Ender because I failed to get the nozzle butted properly) and the very reliable automatic bed tramming - comparing to the Ender again, even with an ABL system the bed tramming screws will need to be tweaked every so often. I also print mostly in ABS, and after a little bit of experimenting to settle on the best method (slightly slower speeds and using the "Engineering Plate" with a layer of gluestick that I applied once and haven't renewed in 3 spools; plus a blanket to compensate for a concrete wall that's exposed to -25C on the other side) I'm at the point were I can print ABS almost as easily as I print PLA. Plus all the ease-of-use features with the wireless connextion to the slicer, and the fact that even at 75% speed for added strength and detail accuracy the X1C is more than twice as fast as my Ender-5 and produces prints that are 10 times cleaner, IMO. But for me the main advantages are that I don't have constantly mess around with the X1C, I can just turn it on and hit "print," exactly the same as I do with my laser printer. As for the cost - if you're not planning to print ABS or hotter filaments, look at the P1P instead. As for "upgraditis," there's not much you can do with upgrading the Bambu printers. They're meant to be fire-and-forget. Only you can know if that will make it better or worse for you. Long post, I know, but I hope it helps!
Great talk . My first (2 months ago) was a max neo. Zero complaints except ... and that is why I am looking for second model and that is speed. Taking 2 days to print a laptop wall mount is enough to make me go bananas! My priorities. 1.speed with quality 2. Speed 3. Speed & quality 4. ... did I mention Speed and quality? 5. Then I look at price.
I would suggest the X1 Carbon. So far I have been able to print any filament I have tried, PETG and carbon fiber Nylon. The only limit is the bed size.
As a first time viewer this was such an amazing overview, I can't tell you the amount of extra reliability you get by telling us to check out other places and not just take your word for it although I definitely do trust it! Thank you so much for your time and effort to make this video, lots of appreciation for it. I'm slowly trying to find a 3d printer for a custom car modification business and this has given me a lot to digest :) Definitely liked and subscribed
Jim, good video. Another thing to consider is that you can grow with the hobby. I got my first printer 4 years ago an Ender 5, since then I have added and replaced printers, as my needs and skill level changed. i no longer have any of my first printers, but now have 4 that I'm very happy with.
That's great feedback David! Where you start today is probably not where you're going to be in 5 years and it's about the journey of learning the hobby! Start wherever you can start and go up from there!
Ender 5 Pro & Sovol SV06 were my #1 & #2 printers. I like the E5P, it is a solid printer, no issues at all. The SV06 was amazing right out of the box but started going downhill fast with about 6 weeks of printing time on it. I am looking for Printer #3 and thinking the Bambu A1 as choice. I print table top terrain for ww2 wargaming. 28mm scale. PLA+ filament is all I use. What are your thoughts on these 3 printers?
My budget right now is around 1500, I want a flexible software, print directly to printer, great community and great quality, the size isn't really an issue, what would you recommend? Any suggestions are welcome, thank you!!
I'm up to 3 printers ranging from an Ender3 V2(tinker pit exhibit A) an Ender3 S1 Pro(tinker pit Exhibit B) and coming soon a Bambu Lab X1 Carbon Combo( hopefully very little tinkering with this one,Lol)
@@JA-fn7le I am on the record many times saying that I love it! I have 3 of them and a P1P and it literally made me love 3D Printing again! It's so easy to use and so fast. The company works with the community more than any other company I have worked with to make changes and updates. It's 💯 worth it if you have the money!
Great video really helped me out on getting started. But back to the size of the print size. Is there a happy medium between the ender 2 pro and ender?
Also for anyone who is buying a 3d printer, make sure you look at the most recent videos, and no videos done by some dodgy ai voice. The 3D printing market has changed massively over the last year. Always make sure you're getting relevant and reliable reviews.
If that was my budget and I mainly just printed PLA PETG and TPU, I would go with a P1P and a bunch of filament. And still save money. If you want to print with more exotic filaments or enclosed high temp filaments then X1 or X1C is the way to go. I put my money where my mouth is and purchased them as well.
Good afternoon, thanks for all the videos and reviews, im trying to buy my first 3d printer so I can Print the Atomic Dragon by Toymark3D, so I want to ask you what 3D printer you recommend for excellent quality no more than a $1000. For now im thinking about the Creality Ender 3 S1 Pro, super racer v400 & the Bambu Lab P1P. If you have more recommendations please let me know. Kind Regards. David Herrera.
@@chaux13 They are, but after owning 5 Creality printers ( which I have given all away) and two Rat Rigs, the X1 and the P1P just work. I have both and it took a while to unlearn what I knew and go simple. Jim has some good videos on both
I would highly suggest the P1P, or even the X1! You can always add the extra parts to make the carbon on the X1 later. Otherwise get the P1P and use the rest of the money for filament etc 🙂
What is the best ender 3 bundle auto leveling or ender 3 pro bundle with a main board??I'm just getting into 3d printing for small projects and some xbox one controller shells and stuff in my car's
What do you think about the X1C vs the Snapmaker J1? Im Going to buy one of them as my first printer. I want it to be as hassle free as possible, that why Im going for a more expensive printer. Any thoughts which one is better and provides better experience out od the box?
Wow, complete disrespect to MySpace when talking about communities. Haha, j/k. Great video. I'm just getting into 3d printers and these videos are a great entry point.
You should have been considering resin printes to 😉 With the options that you have now with different resin formulas that sometimes outperforms fdm materials and they get out much more nicer 😉 Except the mess that comes with them 😁
what 3d printers would be good to get if i wanted to provide a service to construction companies and a service to the government fulfilling contract services and what sort of items could i provide with what 3d printer i have a chance to create and start a company with the support of the government
Part of your research should be ease and cost of maintenance and repairs. I can get a dozen cheap Ender nozzles for next to nothing from Amazon or anywhere, whereas another printer might need a proprietary nozzle or combo hotend that you can only buy from the manufacturer. Things like that. Maybe the simplicity is worth it to you, maybe not.
Creality have some printers that have been on the market for years yet have not fixed the errors in their firmware instead choosing to release more printers and more faults, they are trying to take us all for fools, yeah you can flash a third party "working" firmware but you shouldn't have to, the product should come in a fully working condition, I used to be a Creality Fanboy but now I hate them and will never spend another penny on a Creality product.
Agreed. 4 years ago when I got my Ender 5 they were one of the best printers for the cost. 4 years later and they are still selling pretty much the same platform. Bambu has upped the game for everyone.
Thanks for the video the one I've got is great it's small really low budget the slicer is ok you can download it for Mac as well the tiny Tina weebuilder suite's nearly all of them mentioned in your video.
Proprietary slicers suck. It’s 2023.. cmon.. haha. Community is a big thing too. Easier to get input on a more common printer VS something that isn’t as common.
Not totally agreeing. If you can afford it, buy a Bambu Lab, if not buy a i3 sized (not plus sized)printer. It’s what many models are designed for. If you buy a mini printer, you’ll be very fast getting frustrated by its limitations. Currently I would recommend the Sovol SV-06, because it has all quality of life improvements on board.Whatever printer comes with the best out of the box experience at the given time and price range.
Yeah...just don't listen to this 1 person or you're done🤣 X1C Bamboo has had all kinds of issues. It's still too early in it's development kids out there. Do your research
@@bobbywedding I'm guessing you're the one who hasn't done your research, especially since you misspelled the company name. It's by far the most user friendly, works out of the box printer at the moment. Most issues have been worked out from the kickstarter models
Not really wasting time. I built a voron trident for fun.. Not because I needed it. Don't listen to this guy. He bought a Bambu Lab and now thinks he's an expert because, well, he doesn't have to do anything.
@@coltenmeredith8899 more power to you if like to tinker around and it's your hobby. Some of us need to be productive and get work done and don't have the time to build things from scratch for fun. I have multiple printers yes.. Life is short, get things printed and move on. Endless calibrations and coding is time you'll never get back
@juhs 10 I tune the pressure advance each time I get a new filament, then add some G-code to that filament profile in SuperSlicer to change the pressure advance value. It's not endless at all. It takes 3-4 hours to initially calibrate the printer, but I will be able to calibrate it better than some Chinese lidar system. Anyway, congratulations on the purchase! It always feels so good when you spend that much money, and you get to see it lay that perfect first layer down on the first print. Cheers, and happy printing!
