6 Weeks Post Op Spinal Cord Stimulator (SCS) Implant Surgery

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There is a new very informative video I uploaded called ALL About SCS Spinal Cord Stimulation and Pain I recorded on February 9, 2013. Check it out if you are considering doing a SCS trial or are going to be getting the SCS surgery. My experience is atypical but I'm a professional patient unfortunately and I'm also a big patient advocate for myself and others. I ask lots of questions and I stay well informed. So I do know a lot about SCS, back and nerve pain, fibromyalgia, acute and chronic pain. You are your own best advocate in the end. Feel free to leave a comment or send me a personal message and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Stay strong. Take care and be well. ALSO: IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN FORMING A RU-vid COMMUNITY CENTERED ON PEOPLE LIVING WITH CHRONIC PAIN AND CHRONIC HEALTH ISSUES PLEASE SEND ME A PERSONAL MESSAGE BECAUSE I AM VERY INTERESTED IN HELPING TO CREATE THAT.

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@Zedie36 11 лет назад

Nope, I didn't have the wrong idea, and nope, not whining, just sharing my personal experience. This isn't a competition. I'm hopeful that you get yours turned on soon & that it gives you a lot of relief. I had complications & couldn't use it for a long time, then had to have the whole thing moved from my right to left side, but its all worth it still bc on average it gives me 75% relief & when off it feels like I have an ax in my ankle & more. I don't participate in "man up" talk. Good luck!

@fishinsolitude 11 лет назад

Hi Gabe. My back pain is gone. I turned on the stimulator today for the first time since the operation and the contraption works well. The only pain I have now are the 2 areas they cut to install the stimulator and battery. I'm a rather thin man and it was difficult for the Doc to find good placement of the battery. Instead of it being implanted in my buttocks, it was placed just above my belt line on the left side. I'll keep you informed as things progress, and as always, my best to you.

@fishinsolitude 11 лет назад

Hello Gabe. Thank you for the informative posts over the course of your procedure and recovery. After being involved in auto accident (struck by a drunk driver in 1989) I've endured years of low back pain. I've had 2 lami's at L4, L5 with no results. I recently had the trial implant and can't wait for the real thing to be "installed". My very best to you as you continue to recover, and to all those who suffer with neuropathic or other back pain.

@kv3drichards1 9 лет назад

I am two and a half weeks after my implant. I am glad to hear from someone on how long it takes to get thru this. I am ok with this thing in me as long as it helps with the pain. (Beam me up Scotty) The pain at first was more than I expected. I really thought it would be a "walk in park" after back surgery....I was and still am mistaken. Thanks, you helped a lot.

@Zedie36 8 лет назад

+G Mom sorry i never responded. been a hard year, just coming back to life. hope that by now surgery is a distant memory and you're reaping some of the many benefits of SCS. be well!

@19stoney64 11 лет назад

Yes, insurance covers it because its Certified Therapist just like going to therapy at the hospital, which I have done many years without much good from it. I was tested and qualified for wheel chair back in Feb of last year and found out about fascia release in spring. I have been mobile and moving about feeling like a normal person since about June I would say. Its very, very strange for me. I am not to the level of exercising yet, but just glad to move freely and have mobility is a big deal.

@cherylbrown5872 6 лет назад

I'm doing the TRIAL MARCH 15 2018 for CHRONIC PAIN IN BOTH TITANIUM KNEES. PLEASE PRAY FOR ME.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

Glad you found a good solution for you. I'm going to have to have my entire system moved from my right side to my left side any day now. Can't believe I will be enduring this again, but its worth it because the SCS does help my pain.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

6 years is too long, go with the excitement knowing that fear and anxiety is totally healthy. keep me posted.

@TheZzmel 10 лет назад

To answer your question. Yes, Joyce, it worked pretty well. The stimulating effect feels good and helps you not focus on other pains in the back area. The only problem was since this was a trial, if you moved a certain way, you had to adjust the stimulator so it would be comfortable and the controller looks old fashioned and it is another thing to lug around. I understand that when you have the permanent implant, the controller is smaller but still a little large. I understand that they have a rechargeable battery with a nice small control device. I asked about it and the rep told me it is not yet available. I really think they want to get rid of the ancient controller first. lol Mel

@Premienurse1 8 лет назад

My permanent SCS is from Boston Medical. They do have a rechargeable battery; it's only slightly uncomfortable after the recharging but the battery itself is good for 10-12 years. I'm only 2 months post-op and still needs some fine tuning if I laugh, sneeze or cough (I get zinged on my right side).

@19stoney64 11 лет назад

I dont know if normal people we pass everyday in life realize the value of just moving around. I cant describe to you the pain levels I have been in, so I'm not coating anything when I say this is the only thing I have found that was real help to me. The doctors and therapy centers all but told me that I was done. I no longer use the cane either. I am growing more confident everyday. When I was doing deep tissue, I would bruise and tear my skin, so I know what you mean! I did it for years.

@johnnyappleseed4386 11 лет назад

My stimulators moved and my legs lit up like they were on fire. I quickly got the spinal infusion pump, it works so much better. Hang in there, bro, it gets better.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

hope you are healing well from surgery and are experiencing great pain relief from your SCS. you're right, yes surgery is painful, but it's worth it in the long run!

@marygodbout1573 12 лет назад

I have my stim put in this Thursday.the temp one worked fanfricken-tastic..so I hope the permanent one will too. I am nervous..well..more so now that I watched your videos Gabe...I know the surgery is gonna be tough my pain dr told me...its a long recovery....all I am thinking about is getting my life back....well part of it anyway.... I hope you are doing better now gabe. I look forward to seeing another update...hopefully soon!

@Zedie36 12 лет назад

i haven't left, life is just enormous right now. may 13th will be 2 years on T so i need to make a long overdue T update, and i also need to make a SCS update and talk about my most recent health problems and hospitalization. ugh. oh, yeah, and we're moving across the country to portland in 6 weeks, so that's been a bit - i mean A LOT - overwhelming and time consuming. thanks for being so persistent buddy! you may just have gotten me to make some videos :) be well!

@Deba7777 5 лет назад

Hello~ now that it's 2019 - how are you? Did you continue the use of the same device? Would love to know your latest status with this device.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

I'm definitely going to look into it. I'm amazed by your experience. Even if it doesn't benefit me I'm sure glad it exists if for no other reason because its given you your life back! Moving freely and having mobility is enormous.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

I've had horrible bruising from massage too. I'm pretty sure that most people do not and cannot realize the value of just moving around freely and easily, flopping onto any old couch, sleeping in any bed or position etc. I can definitely relate to and appreciate intense pain levels. I just had back surgery number 4 less than 24 hrs ago! I would like to explore myofascia release ASAP to try and prevent scar tissue. I'm very amazed by your experience and will send you a personal message later.

@slapmeagainsc 12 лет назад

ijust had the scs put in ,its been 10 days andyes kind of sore with pain,that go with any operation.. but im doing good with it no problem hope it stay like that. i dont mind the pain from the operation,cause i no mostor all my painwill be goen once im better,,,,,,and i cant wait till i go back to doctor on tuesday,,,,if all is good im taking my fishing pole and chair,,,,,,going nuts for10 days not be able todo any thing,eeekkkkkkk, and i hope you feel better gabe,,,,,just think its all good.

@Zedie36 12 лет назад

i'm going to do a SCS/health update this next week. it has not been an easy journey for me, but my experience is far from typical. the SCS actually pointed out a major health problem that i've been majorly struggling with - was in the hospital a few days about a month ago. anyway, i'll do an update soon. thanks for watching!

@martinlola1978 11 лет назад

just had my SCS implanted yesterday... very painful but it will be worth it in long run!!!

@19stoney64 11 лет назад

After 8 years of pain from a neck accident I found myofascia release has helped me more than I can begin to express. It's like all hope has been renewed to get back to some kind of normal lifestyle. I highly recommend it.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

It's done, I had surgery yesterday. I lost a massive amount of weight due to serious illness, so the pocket that held my battery became way too big, the battery was moving/flipping around a lot, the wires were getting tugged, nerves/tissue in one area were causing searing pain that radiated out from the battery when I turned my SCS on as well as causing a painful sensation down my legs. Immediately post op they turned it on, all of that pain gone, sucks I had to have major surgery again though!

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

I really need to make an update video, thanks for final push I needed. My SCS has been complicated bc of other medical problems which I have literally just started sorting out in a forward direction. Have only been using my SCS regularly since most recent thorough programming session w neuromodulator abt 3 weeks. It works if the trial works is what I can say right now, so do the trial if you want a chance at more life. Mine is Boston Scientific, St Jude also makes one. Explore all options. Gabe

@fishinsolitude 11 лет назад

Hello again Gabe. Tday is March 6 and I had the permanant implant today, all went well. I'm still feeling the effects of the versaid and other meds and have not tested out the new unit as of yet. I will do that tomorrow and let you know how the "contraption" works. I hope you are doing better and as always, my best.

@19stoney64 11 лет назад

Also I might add that I have worked with pain management for years and taken all the drugs I could try. After a few months of fascia release now I am off all pain meds completely. I forgot to answer that YES I do have pain afterwards from fascia release like I have had probably 200 times from deep tissue work but its not as long lasting and my increase in mobility far exceeds deep tissue massages. If you would want me to ask my therapist about someone in your area then just PM your location.

@slapmeagainsc 12 лет назад

been 4 weeks since i had this done,,,stills hurt,,but i had to get out of the house so i did,,for a little while was hurting more when i got home,,,hate being laid up lol hoping the hurt go away soon

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

i'm behind lol. well that's great news! your back pain huh? that's awesome, truly. i had my battery moved to the same area yours is in. be careful of hitting it against edges and corners! heal well.

@badaboomrock 12 лет назад

I feel your pain just had it done about 2 months it is work but not as good as I would like but better than before it does burn when I charge it.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

I hate the drugs too! They do nothing but make me feel stupid and cause too many negative side effects. And, pain gets old as you know. I'm off most everything at this point, and once through the withdrawal I realize they none really help me that much. The temporary pain sounds worth it for such long lasting and life changing results. I stopped deep tissue massage because it hurts too much, doesn't help for more than a day and costs too much. Thanks for the hope!

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

good news, and good luck! don't be terrified, it's not a major surgery, though obviously major because it's surgery. you'll be awake and on the road to recovery in no time. pay close attention to those two hours. i've personally never heard of predicting success from imaging and symptoms, only from trials, so make sure it helps you before you have something implanted and risk infection etc. hope it helps you, good luck!

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

Glad to hear your trial was successful! When do you get the real thing installed? I just had mine repositioned from my right side to my left side a week ago. With both of my implant surgeries I am too sore from surgery to run the SCS for a while so pain is in the lead, for now. Stay strong and best of luck with your surgery.

@tiffanyoverby9060 11 лет назад

I am having the trial put in tomorrow morning. Very very nervous

@las2dollars 12 лет назад

This is a bit AFTER ur SCS surgery....2day is June 27....Im jus now seeing ur posts...I too have had the SCS surgery @ da end of 2011.....I hav bn havin bak pain 4 ovr 25 yrs. Have bn 2 soo many Dr.s that i lost count...I've had the tens units...the spinal injections..therapy....and hella pain meds...Since the surgery,my back pain STILL exists....the stimul8r ONLY helps my sciatic nerv pain... I can't stand long @ all nor sit very long...I've bn on dat pain patch,NO HELP....now Im bak on Oxy.2bc

@daisyduke1468 11 лет назад

Just curious how you like it now? I had ACDF back in 2010. I still have a lot of pain daily and I've tried everything under the sun to help the pain. I have a tens unit and it helps but it doesn't stay on very well. So I'm now wondering about this. Please give me your update as to how you like it. Please don't sugar coat it either. Thx

@cristi1436 7 лет назад

Thank you for doing this video. And sorry for the few silly comments from people. Pain is taken in different ways and no one is to tell you to "man up". How are you doing now?

@twania36 12 лет назад

I feel they same way because I had my spinal cord stimulator put in friday and was discharged saturday and saturday night I had to go back because of stomach pain that was very bad and I had a fever but they told me that that is normal to happen and the incision hurts really bad because it's like all of my chest and shoulder muscles hurt OMG.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

how is your trial going?! good i hope! i AM going to make an SCS update video very very soon. take care and be well.

@petramajernikova3260 4 года назад

You can definelty feel mine and also see it which I hate. I am quite slim so it's even more visible

@Franceschinirealty 12 лет назад

I'm from Puerto Rico. I have chronic sciatica and back pain after a fall in 2011 I have been to 19 doctors in PR and to John Hopkins, can't find the cause of the pain. Have done 9 epidural nerve blocks. I have Fybromialgia . I have 4 Tarlov Cyst on the nerve roots. Now they say no matter what the pain is from. SCS will treat it. I am researching and looking for testimonials to have a realistic view of the effectiveness. Tell me please how is the pain vrs before. Is it worth the effort. Bye

@MrMerkMarley 11 лет назад

I've had 3 surgeries this year, just had my SCS installed Monday and I am so excited for 30% relief!!! I think you went into this surgery with the wrong idea. I can't wait till they turn mine on. You seem like you whine alot bro man up

@LeafFreedom 7 лет назад

I am going to be going through this same thing....uggg, so many surgeries. It is rough. I will join your youtube community, I too have many similar issues.

@Zedie36 7 лет назад

LeafFreedom I hope your surgery goes well, or went well, whatever the case may be. Best of luck with SCS! So many surgeries indeed. For me they’ve all been worth it. Heck I’ve had major SCS surgery four times with a few minor ones thrown in. I still have one more major revision to get it right but I’ll do it because it’s worth it.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

I have wanted to try myofascia release in the past but haven't yet. Glad to hear it has made such a huge difference in your pain and quality of life. Does insurance cover that treatment or do you have to pay out of pocket? Also do you find it makes you sore like a massage can do? I have fibromyalgia and in general find massage to be painful. Curious if you have any thoughts on my questions, thanks!

@fishinsolitude 11 лет назад

Hey Gabe, The real thing will be installed March 6, 2013. I'll let ya know how things went as soon as I'm able.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

Which company are you using? They all work significantly different yet in essence the same. Did the trial work well for you? From my experience, both personal and hearing from others, that it truly comes down to how well the trial works. I guess it's helping me enough to be going through surgery tomorrow to have the whole thing moved from my right side to my left side lol! Some temporary acute pain is worth it for the long term chronic pain relief. Good luck!

@bear022013 11 лет назад

Zedie 36, For 20 years i have been confined to my home with four failed cervical and lumbar fusions...pain is always a 6to 9 despite meds/20 epidurals and all the rehab,accupuncture .I am afraid to have SCS or PUMP in my body due to horror stories,giving up control/incredibly rude surgeons and the kickback scams and free trips docs get when they talk you into these gadgets.The rate of success according to Medtronics Money grabbers is 30 to 50%.My pain is peripheral neuropathy.WHAT SHOULD I DO

@dottie8115 5 лет назад

You didn’t get the Nevro Stimulator right?

@johnbodmer6879 8 лет назад

Thanks for sharing your video, my surgery is two weeks and I'm a little nervous

@Zedie36 7 лет назад

John Bodmer I understand being nervous, but there's no need. It's a very painful surgery. I've had nineteen surgeries and SCS ones are by far the most painful. But it's just a few weeks or a month and then it's gone and hopefully we'll worth it. I'm just now six and a half weeks post op from having two St. Jude SCS systems implanted. It was rough but I'm through it all. I plan to make a new video soon. Good luck and take care,

@johnbodmer6879 7 лет назад

Just Gabe Thanks Gabe, I appreciate it.

@twania36 12 лет назад

I am so sorry but I'm in Musical theater school now so I try and rest as much possible. I did great for the first 6weeks but now it's not covering like at first. it's been 2 months and a week and for some reason I am taking Tramadol 3 times a day so they are looking at the CT scan now to see if the paddle has moved and if so he is going to revise it will let you know but it is took at least 40 % of pain away I wish they had this 8 surgeries ago are you in DC I see the metro that's where I am.

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

how are you doing after surgery? taken it for a test drive yet? i had to have a major revision surgery on mine two weeks ago, had the whole thing moved to the left side, 3 incisions, and the old battery pocket site is filled with a massive complex hematoma which hurts a lot. i still can't turn my scs on, just too much for my body. i need to ease myself back into it. hope you're well on your way to much better days!

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

i'm not sure how long you'd be out of work. i wasn't working at the time of my surgery. everyone responds to surgery and surgical pain differently. this was a really painful surgery for me and a tough as hell first week, and, this was my third back surgery that year so maybe that was part of it. a lot of people report similar pain as mine, though. and i have a paddle which means i wasn't allowed to lift anything over 10 pds for 6 weeks so that the paddle adhered according to original settings.

@las2dollars 12 лет назад

Now Im bak on Oxy.....Hydros....relaxers and I wear dat poor stimul8r out....Boston Scientific guys NVR git da settins right 4 my pain...my pain is n da lowest part of da bak...feels lyk my tailbone is tryna push up thru my dam spine & it takes up 2 5 hrs 2 calm dwn n any kinda way.I hope Im not scarin anybody wit my story,but dis IS erryday 4 me & has bn for yrs. I hope urs helpt u betta dan it did me.....thnx 4 lissnin......(xcuse da typin)

@gabrielrave1609 6 лет назад

Gabe here too wiith sci injury as well! I'd love to talk with you sometime. i''m fused c4-6 and t5-12, all incomplete, injured in mn on oct 23, 2011:

@ciscokidusmc4408 7 лет назад

r u on pain meds while using this? im about to get this implant done. thanks

@johnnyappleseed4386 11 лет назад

Why are they moving it from one side to the other ?

@Zedie36 12 лет назад

how are you doing post-op and living as a cyborg?! i'm going to try my hardest to maker an update video this week. my journey has been quite unusual and difficult but mainly because my SCS pointed out a major health issue related to my two level fusion. ugh. hope you're well!

@Zedie36 11 лет назад

Watch my latest video I just uploaded that is ALL about SCS and pain. If your pain is only in your back its unlikely it will help enough. If the pain is in your buttocks, hips and legs then its definitely worth talking to a pain medicine doctor. Watch the latest video and then ask any more questions you have, I'm more than happy to help if I can.

@Zedie36 12 лет назад

how are you doing post-op? my SCS journey has been complicated. i'm going to try to make a 4 month post-op video this next week. send me a PM or a link to a video you made and let me know how you're doing now that you're a cyborg :)

@joycefitzsimmons-sparks3858 10 лет назад

I'm scheduled for the trial in 2 weeks. can you honestly tell me SCS is working?

@Zedie36 10 лет назад

well your trial has come and gone. how did it go?? sorry to just now be responding, I've had recent back and scs surgeries and also have not been able to access this account until literally now to respond to folks. yes I can honestly say scs is working for me. it did in the trial. it's all about the trial. me and scs are a long and complicated story. i'm going to post a general life update on this channel soon and soon after a back/scs only video, so sub or check back if you're interested. I really hope the trial helped you out! be well.

@joycefitzsimmons-sparks3858 10 лет назад

thanks for responding. my trial went fantastic. i had NO pain for four marvelous days. i go in for the permanent one feb 13.........i'm really excited.is so many surgeries normal? i thought it was kind of a plug and go situation. stay well hope all the surgeries and things dwindle off and you can be pain free

@THE1ANDONLYSTILLMIN 9 лет назад

+Just Gabe what kind do you have? thats funny how you say CYBORG loool sometimes i feel like the tin man, need oil to loosin up loool, but seriousy, im about to get it done, and i have alot of titanium in me a couple rods and 20 screws, and i used a belt type before and the sticky pads and thought the shocks left me with tingling throughout my body, i just dont know, but i hate being in pain yes, but id rather just smoke some green and chill cause i think the pain never will go away its just trying to live a normal life without being stressed and hurting, and most of all quality of life, thanks for the advice here, still searching on the process for people like us

@1999straker 8 лет назад

+Joyce Fitzsimmons i am going through the hell of intractable spinal pain after 20 years of hell and 4 operations including a multi level ALIF fusion ..this have gone so bad over the last 4 years i now need a device like the nervo HF 10 and i am seeing a consultant this week march 10th 2016 i am worried and i know its going to be a hard day because i have so much pain i get wiped out so quickly i would like to know how you are getting on thank you

@Zedie36 8 лет назад

+Stillmin Stilldoit sorry just seeing your comment. i had boston scientific's newest model, but had it removed last fall so i could get some necessary MRIs. but i'm getting reimplanted with St Jude's newest model using burst stimulation as soon as i have an injury and some illness stabilized. if you haven't pursued it by now i'd highly recommend it. and i agree that smoking green helps with pain, but SCS does too. they're actually a great combo, and the cannabis helps lessen the sensation which can be annoying at times when you'd rather feel your body naturally but without pain. let me know if you have any other questions. be well!

@Joemnc 11 лет назад

How long do you have to be out of work?

@SMOKEY91149 8 лет назад

How can you ascertain if the leads have moved after implant?

@Zedie36 8 лет назад

+Gary Contreraz the best way I could think to know if the leads have moved after implant is if the sensation feels different than it did during the trial or immediately after surgery. if the leads move then the coverage area will shift some too. definitely something to check out with your doctor if you haven't already. sorry for the delayed reply, it's been a heck of a year for me and i'm just coming back to life. be well!

@thomaswilliams615 5 лет назад

X-ray. Dr will show you placement of leads

@haroldwilliams9849 7 лет назад

I get it done tomorrow long you off work for anyone who's done it?

@Zedie36 7 лет назад

Harold Williams Good luck, hope everything goes well and recovery is smooth. I can't answer the work question because I'm on disability, but if I were working, I can't imagine going back to work any sooner than 3 weeks based on the same bad level of post op pain I've had each time I've had the surgery. No bending, lifting or twisting for 6 weeks is a very important part of recovery and healing! All the best to you!

@sheldonbeaver8451 6 лет назад

If you could do it all over again would you?

@Zedie36 6 лет назад

Sheldon Beaver I absolutely would, and have, several times now. For lots of complicated reasons (keep meaning to make a much needed update video) I’ve had to have multiple revision surgeries and had it completely removed out of desperate need for MRIs after sustaining a traumatic injury. I’m now running burst stimulation with St. Jude, so it covers pain without the parasthesia. It’s been worth all the surgeries to keep the pain management option, but damn, doesn’t matter how many times I have the surgery, if they do any bone shaving on the lamina which they almost always do, it’s downright brutal pain, but passes within two weeks.

@clouddweller1195 9 лет назад

Did you gain weight? More pain?Help me? You cannot be in any pain..if you have the darn thing off!

@Zedie36 8 лет назад

+Cloud Dweller sorry for the late response. if SCS is turned off then pain is higher because the SCS is off. i had a botched first surgery and had to have the whole implant removed, so my pain and experience was certainly real. everybody is different! my weight has nothing to do with SCS also. i've dropped a good 125 pds since i made this video, more at one point. hope you've been able to find some success with SCS by now. hit me up if you have any questions. be well!

@clouddweller1195 8 лет назад

Had intrathecal pain pump trial and it had to come out......bladder filled with fluid. I live in fetal position on couch....suicide on my mind.

@Zedie36 8 лет назад

+Cloud Dweller so sorry to hear that my friend! stay strong. i know what it's like, to both be in the fetal position on the couch and to want to throw in the towel. a day at a time. if the pain pump didn't work then definitely look into the spinal cord stimulator or peripheral nerve stimulator. also cannabis really helps with pain if you have access to it. hang in there!

@clouddweller1195 8 лет назад

no,i lost ten poungs. 6 ft 150................hang in there.

@johnvandenburgh8771 6 лет назад

What's 21 months on "T" mean?

@Zedie36 6 лет назад

John VanDenburgh T stands for testosterone.

@pepper13111 7 лет назад

Horrible pain? He's never had real surgery then.

@Zedie36 7 лет назад

Barclay I've had 19 surgeries. SCS surgeries have been a quarter of them. I'm six weeks post op double SCS implant surgery. Unbelievable pain. You don't know me and are just trolling around the internet apparently trying to be a jerk and bully. If you don't have anything nice or supportive to say, don't say anything. Ever heard of being kind? Hope you have a happy holiday.

@coronel1949 6 лет назад

not everyone is the same no pain here Dr. Atkins in San Antonio excellent surgeon

@jaredu3748 6 лет назад

pancho lopez I am having dr Atkins do my surgery tomorrow at 8:30 in stone oak! Ppl were freaking me out that it’s horrible do u have any advice for me?

@becky99190 11 лет назад

Umm i had the surgery done as well and u just need to man up and im a female so stop complaining and ur whinning seriously and i have had 3 back surgeries prior to this one man up and good luck