60 Years of Stays: Trying on All My 18th Century Stays, 1740-1800

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Because I usually research and portray mainly French and Anglo/American personas in this period, my stays are all in that vein. However, there are lots of regional differences in stays, in places where they were worn. This video also does not try to be a comprehensive video about the history of stays, but if you have any questions, let me know in the comments.
Want to learn more about the stays mentioned in this video? Here is all the relevant information!
Green wool stays:
1 - graciesews.wordpress.com/2018...
2 - graciesews.wordpress.com/2019...
3 - graciesews.wordpress.com/2020...
Pink wool stays (videos!):
1 - • Hand Sewing 18th Centu...
2 - • Hand Sewing 18th Centu...
Red wool stays: there's no blog post or video about these stays, but there are lots of construction photos on my Instagram. The pattern I used can be viewed here: www.scrooppatterns.com/produc...
White linen stays:
graciesews.wordpress.com/2018...
Image credits (in order of appearance, and left to right when two images appear at once):
1. Paul Sandby, A Lady Carrying a Kettle, c. 1755-1770, chalk and watercolor, Royal Collection Trust, www.rct.uk/collection/914389/....
2. Paul Sandby, A Lady Reading, c. 1760-1770, pen and ink and watercolor, Royal Collection Trust, www.rct.uk/collection/search#....
3. Henry Robert Morland, A Lady's Maid Soaping Linen, c. 1765-1782, oil on canvas, Tate Museum, London, www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/....
4. John Singleton Copley, Dorothy Quincy (Mrs. John Hancock), 1772, oil on canvas, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, collections.mfa.org/objects/3....
5. P. LeClerc and P. LeBeau, Cuisiniere nouvellement arrivée de Province…, 1778, hand-colored engraving on laid paper, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, collections.mfa.org/objects/3....
6. Flack & Lea Stay Makers, 1785, paper, British Museum, London, www.britishmuseum.org/collect....
7. F.L.J. Watteau and N. Dupin, La Virtuose sensible en robe à l'Anglaise…, 1784, hand-colored engraving on laid paper, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, collections.mfa.org/objects/3....
8. Published by P. de la Mésangère, Bonnet Toquet…, 1799, engraving on paper, Rijksmusuem, Amsterdam, www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collect....
Want to support this channel? You can do so here: ko-fi.com/graciepatten
My blog: graciesews.wordpress.com
My Instagram: graciesews...
Oli's Instagram: paleooli?h...
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"Sunrise," "Peaceful," and "Breeze" by Yakov Golman

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@user-gj4hj7np2s 28 дней назад

Now we know that recorders are meant to play a lot more than Mary had a litter lamb. Absolutely beautiful.

@pay1370 3 года назад

This is a really cool visual guide, it's interesting how the way you cut your panels can have such a big effect on the look of a garment! Love your stays, they look amazing!

@GraceShalomHopkinsFiberArt 3 года назад

My "otp" era is mid to early 1700's but I lurv that curved front on the red. I try to pick stay patterns of that era and wear them with my earlier garments because history bounding lol I'm curious to try an Edwardian early 18th c mashup just to see how far I can push that vibe 😂

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

That sounds so cool!

@lupa1445 3 года назад

I've thought of that myself!!! Specifically the straight front 1900's look with the bust and bum padding but like on top of maybe prow front stays - I feel like the shape of the stays/corset are incredibly similar, with no cups and a straight front it is very 18th century esque. :)

@cherylspear1633 3 года назад

Oh, your 1780's stays are my favorite! Beautiful!

@cheerful_something_something 3 года назад

I like seeing the artwork, and your recreations together, and showing how the design morphs across time. Thank you for sharing this.

@cherylspear1633 3 года назад

This is such a great breakdown of form and style from each period. Well put together and presented. Thanks for sharing this! I can see myself watching again in the future for reference when I forget which was which.

@TheVintageGuidebook 3 года назад

This was so soothing to watch and I loved seeing examples from each period!

@user-zd2bb2fw5b 2 года назад

昔の時代の衣装を見ることができて、とても楽しかったです❤️ ありがとうございます❤️

@wthinwthout2786 3 года назад

This is the content I've been googling for!

@isabelhess1510 3 года назад

It was very easy to tell the differences between all the styles as time marched forward, so cool that the different patterns are able to make such wildly different shapes. That's what I love most about historical corsetry for sure. I hope my stays come out similarly! Great video

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thanks! I'm glad the evolution of the garment was visible with this. Good luck with your stays!

@dieulli-8507 11 месяцев назад

I love all your stays. 😊 They are so beautiful. 🥰

@neonpinkqueen1403 3 года назад

My goal is regency era fashion but the red stays did look quite comfortable

@lolajl 3 года назад

It's really great to see a progression of these stays during the 18th century! What about those worn from 1700s - 1730s?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

I haven't done a ton of research on that period (maybe soon!), but the stays of that period were pretty long with a high bust and a wide neckline, similarly to stays/bodies of the later 17th century.

@DawnOldham 3 года назад

This was a wonderful video and helped me see the progression of the silhouettes very easily! Thank you! I love your enthusiasm and your needlework is amazing!

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! Glad it was helpful.

@EmpaT Год назад

ahh, the 1770s-1800s are my favorite era, so glad to finally find videos about the fashion of that time!

@crochet_kat 3 года назад

This was really interesting, thank you!

@kathrynehiersche1817 3 года назад

This is such a cool video!

@sirencreed 3 года назад

Ugh, they're all so gorgeous! Thank you for showing a variety and explaining the evolving trends.

@yasmintomic 3 года назад

I am just getting in to historical clothing so I very much appreciate your video. Thanks Gracie.

@gumfoil 3 года назад

This video is so useful. Interesting to hear your thoughts on your projects alongside the historical information. Plus, your stays are so beautiful. Great job.

@maunasiliandergamba2387 2 месяца назад

Remarkable work ❤

@MakeupGeek88 3 года назад

You're really talented! Can't wait to be able to make those myself too :)

@TimesmithDressHistory 3 года назад

This was fun - thanks, Gracie! I've made stays from all over the 18th century for other people but somehow keep making 1760s for myself. One day....

@aroger2486 3 года назад

I love this. They look so nice on you. I would definitely like to see more of the different corsets.

@Simple_Machine 10 месяцев назад

This is such a good video! Thank you for sharing all your gorgeous pieces

@awaywithwinds6115 3 года назад

So happy that there are people like you who get straight to the point and explain things very well :)

@kellycorssat804 3 года назад

Fabulous work on all those stays! I'm partial to 1790's as I just finished a project on my channel from that era but I do love your 1790's stays! Simply gorgeous!

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! I'll have to watch your 1790s videos! The dress and jumps in your thumbnails are beautiful

@kellycorssat804 3 года назад

@@GraciePattenSewing thank you so much! I really appreciate it!

@Fuiotter 3 года назад

This is lovely to look at, and super interesting!! I was wondering about the 18th century progression - it is a lot more subtöe than in the 19th century

@afterglow2935 2 года назад

I’m currently making those Scroop Augusta stays so this was awesome to see! Thank you!

@GraciePattenSewing 2 года назад

good luck!

@kvothekingkiller9097 3 года назад

wonderful video!! so glad this showed up in my recommended, i'll definitely be checking out more of your channel!

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

yay! thank you!

@thisismyname3328 3 года назад

The third is similar to a pattern I was considering trying out, and now I think I might just have to make them. Thanks for sharing, they're beautiful.

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! The red 1780s stays are definitely my favorite.

@SingingSealRiana 3 года назад

This was realy helpful, thank you ^^

@joannevieira5757 3 года назад

I love this video. It's a great visual of the progression and you are so easy to listen to and follow what you're talking about. A Big plus! I always look forward to your tutorials. 🙂

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

thank you!

@suzi3creamcheeze 3 года назад

This is a very educational video. Thank you VERY much. I am currently in the early research stage of making 18th Century Stays having just finished a hand-sewn 18th Century Linen Shift. So yeah, stays are next. I have the Costume Close-Up book. I am so glad to discover your channel. I look forward to more costume videos.

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

I'm glad it was useful! Good luck with your stays

@staciefallon5347 Год назад

What talent! These are so beautiful. I wonder how you made these. I do garment modern sewing and have no idea where I would start. The red one fits you so well, you can see how relaxed you are in it. Thanks for the content!

@momosaku16 3 года назад

the red ones are dreamy

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

thanks!

@emlubb4857 3 года назад

I adore this video, and I've been wondering quite a bit about the history and historical use of spiral lacing versus other kinds. Maybe you could talk a bit more about that at some point? keep up the good work!!!

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! Maybe I will make another video about stays where I can get into questions such as this.

@sarahannetteshysvnflower2039 3 года назад

You are so cute! I want to make some regency style stays now. 🥺

@penniecormier8770 3 года назад

Thank you! I really understood the progress of stays through this time. Love to see more.

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

yay! I'll definitely have more videos coming (probably not until November though, after my final exams)

@penniecormier8770 3 года назад

Sounds good. Good luck on your exams!

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

@@penniecormier8770 thank you! I appreciate that

@charischannah 3 года назад

Lovely! I'm in the middle of making a pair of the Augusta stays right now--my very first stays ever. Currently working on eyelets, which really don't take that long individually, but it feels like there's a lot of them.

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

thanks! I know what you mean, those eyelets can seem to go on forever until they're done. good luck with your stays!!

@rowenahaps8514 3 года назад

LOVE this video

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

yay!

@a.b.7817 Год назад

Hi, first of all, thanks for this video ! Really interesting, and all your stays are so beautiful !! The 1790s one looks so comfy ! I’m curious about the Augusta stays : did you use the size recommend by the pattern, or did you size down ? I just bought it and have no idea how big the gap in the back should be (made a toile for the curvy version of my size and ended up having a 10 cm gap which I find way too big) Edit : rewatching the video made realize that the answer of my question was in the video !! Sorry haha

@constancelucas5478 3 года назад

it's a cool video, I adore the look of stays and I always wonder if you could wear them under a blouse and a modern skirt? they look so confortable and the shape they gave (especially the 1780's and the 1790's) is so beautiful

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

thank you! I've worn stays out over modern clothes once or twice, and I would like to do so again, because they look nice. I've worn them under a sweater once (I think I didn't have time to change) and they look kind of odd under modern clothes (there is a defined ridge where the garment ends).

@karenjb82 3 года назад

Impressive!

@SarahBent 3 года назад

Love this comparison!

@SarahBent 3 года назад

The Augusta stays are super comfy. I wore mine all day recently and was very happy in them.

@SarahBent 3 года назад

The word for the late 18th century bust that you are looking for is, according to abby cox, thrusty.

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

@@SarahBent I thought of that as I was filming this! It felt a little odd to say it while I was wearing thrusty stays though lol

@amysrp5531 3 года назад

I've been thinking about making a pair of regency short stays as a bra replacement to help with my back pain. Do you think they would look 'natural' underneath modern clothes?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

That's a good idea! I bet that, if you made a pair of earlier regency stays with a more natural bust line, they would look natural under dresses and sweaters but maybe not under a thin t shirt.

@esmithsarah 3 года назад

Gorgeous! Have you considered using a blunt needle for making lacing easier?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Oh, that's a good idea! Thanks!

@karenmusa3052 6 месяцев назад

My god they were so restrictive but still just beautiful..

@emyamodio3398 2 месяца назад

I have a really big bust a small rib cage and shoulder/back problems due to how the bras are made and the size of my bust, which stay would you say is the most supportive and comfortable on the back and bust that I can wear under normal clothing?

@plasticreplica 3 года назад

i was wondering other then the augusta one what patterns did you use for all the stays you made? they look lovely! also amazing hand stitching! i'm planing to make all of mine hand stitched too!

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! There is information about how I made all of the stays (including patterns) in the links in the description box, but the short answer is: Green 1760s: drafted from Costume Close-Up Pink 1770s: drafted from Mandy Barrington's book Stays and Corsets based on a draft in Norah Waugh White 1790s: self drafted from a museum example Good luck with your stays!

@luanaanjos9849 3 года назад

After watching your videos I started hand sewing so much haha

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Yay! Hand sewing is the best

@mclaire9447 3 года назад

Very interesting video, thank you for sharing!! Its funny, the way you speak reminds me a lot of my best friends cousin. Do you happen to have any Hispanic relatives?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Glad you liked it! I do not.

@MissBlossem2003 2 месяца назад

I’m wondering, how does the level of back/shoulder suppport change over the decades?

@FuriousAquarian 2 года назад

You are so talented! Do you always handsew? How important is historical accuracy to your practice and why? I am just curious, I am becoming interested in historical costume making and I am trying to figure out where I might sit. With what we are learning about posture and the effects on the body I think stays should make a comeback! My mother wears a backbrace to work everyday, I can't help but thinking functionally how it isn't much different than a corset.

@GraciePattenSewing 2 года назад

thank you! I hand sew everything from before the widespread use of the sewing machine (though I have also machine sewed stays in the past). For me, I just find it very satisfying to have something entirely hand sewn and made with historical methods. I understand that hand sewing is not for everyone though, and people make beautiful garments with modern techniques. all that is to say, I like hand sewing, but I don't judge people who don't hand sew!

@RychaardRyder 2 года назад

How do you sew down the white strips on the seam of your stays? Do you just whipstitch them down? Or backstitch them on?

@GraciePattenSewing 2 года назад

whip stitches, basically! I talk about it in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vcE5nNiscMc.html

@elvellarambles9151 3 года назад

Obviously, all of them look beautiful to my novice eye; but watching you get into them set me wondering: were women expected to make their own stays? Or I guess for wealthier women, I’m guessing their stays had to be tailored to them?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! In the 18th century, stay making was part of the tailoring trade, and most women would get stays made for them (almost all clothes were custom made in the 18th century). Stay making is a specialized skill, and baleen is apparently extremely difficult to cut, so people were not making their own stays at home. There was also a significant secondhand market in the 18th century, so if someone could not afford new stays, they could purchase used stays and have them altered if needed. Abby Cox has a great video about clothes shopping in the 18th century if you want to learn more. Hope this was helpful!

@rosewhiteheart8203 Год назад

what do y'all use to lace your stays? my string keeps breaking. albeit I'm not using sturdy string, but i'd appreciate suggestions.

@hypps35 3 года назад

Beautiful work. Do you think stays could be worn with some modern fashion?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

Thank you! I've worn stays with a more modern skirt before, and I thought it looked cute.

@erdbeermilch2083 3 года назад

Super helpful video! What do you use for lacing?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

I used linen tape or my green and pink stays and a plaited linen cord for my red stays. The white stays use a cotton cord (I'm not sure that this is accurate though).

@erdbeermilch2083 3 года назад

Gracie Patten Thank you!

@mckenzielasalle6375 3 года назад

Do you have patterns? I love them all so so much

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

The short answer is kind of? There are links in the description box to how I made all of the stays, which include patterns or references used.

@primrose3982 2 года назад

What pattern or resources were used for drafting the 1740-1760s stays? I really want to make them now! Edit: Okay never mind I saw where you listed your resources! Thanks!

@GraciePattenSewing 2 года назад

I actually remade those stays and have two videos about drafting the pattern and making the stays!

@primrose3982 2 года назад

@@GraciePattenSewing I'll definitely check that out, thanks! Also, I gotta commend you for showing the progression of stays in the 1700s. I couldn't find any other source that explained it this well until I found this video! Thank you!

@a_wyrd_witch 3 года назад

ngl those 1790 stays look comfy af 😍

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

they're pretty comfortable!

@rebeccaharden6018 3 года назад

What pattern did you use for the regency one

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

My pattern was self drafted (there's probably some more details in the blog post about it, linked in the description). If I remember correctly, I based my patterning on Jill Salen's book Corsets.

@kyzo8440 3 года назад

i wonder if my mom used to wear this kind of corset or outfit hmm lemme ask her idk when ehehe

@Jm-tv5jq Год назад

What do you use for the 1780s boning? Reed or synthetic whalebone?

@GraciePattenSewing Год назад

I used synthetic whalebone

@Jm-tv5jq Год назад

@@GraciePattenSewing Thanks 🙏!

@eyesofthegoddess2967 3 года назад

Such lovely stays, just love them so much. It makes a female look like a woman. Thanks

@josefinebrannlund7297 3 года назад

❤️

@TorchwoodPandP 3 года назад

Regency stays, if you ever cross into the 19th C?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

I'd like to make them some day!

@AnnaMae41194 3 года назад

What are the tabs for?

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

They distribute the stays over the hips without having to add shaping at the hips. Without tabs, the stays would dig in to the waist.

@a.mermaid9515 2 года назад

HAHA there is only one dislike on the whole video, really shows how awsome this is

@Erlrantandrage 3 года назад

Dude those 1790s stays would make a good alternative for a bra

@leechowning2712 3 года назад

Have a good friend with a larger bust, and honestly she seemed to be more supported than a modern bra.

@marialouise3450 3 года назад

terribly off topic lol but your voice sounds very similar to madeleine petsch(?)

@GraciePattenSewing 3 года назад

that's interesting, I had to look up her videos but I can kind of hear it!

@sundus928 2 года назад

Please someone donate me the last Stay😭😭 Been binge watching vintage fashion RU-vidrs and Oh how much I wish I had Stays and corsets. I have a cheap bra that hardly suspends . It's painful.

@GraciePattenSewing 2 года назад

I have a few tutorials for making stays yourself on my channel!