If you want a good archer. you start with a five year old boy. if you want a good crossbow man. give me a week or two. flintlock musket. you can have them by monday. if they arn´t the village idiots.
Depends on the crossbow and bolt used, but parrying crossbow bolts is definitely possible. The majority of French crossbows were made with horn and sinew, others simple wood. Metal crossbows were far less common.
The full story is even more interesting. Allegedly the servant boy was defending that castle with a frying pan! Richard saw it and cheered on his courage. The dude then got an opening, saw his chance, and nailed Rich in the shoulder.
Legend has it, that thousands of Saracen horse archers retired out of shame after they got the news that some basic french dude with a crossbow managed to kill Richard
Crossbows are probably easier to learn than arquebuses. After all, you don't have to fiddle around with your powder horn and ram rod and bullet, you just cock the prod, load the bolt and shoot.
That's not what people said in period. Humphrey Barwick, a huge fan of firearms, stressed how much training arquebusiers & company required. Matchlocks weren't easy to use safely & well in practice.
I have one of the Tod's 350lb crossbows. It requires the goats foot as well. That draw weight seems high, but with only 6" of power stroke, it has very little time and distance to move that bolt.
The reason such a high draw weight crossbow gets outperformed in energy by the longbow is draw length which is why 950-1200 lb crossbows used at earliest 1320s does not have much more energy than the longbow of around 165lb, can do pretty good on brigandine but a solid shot on a cuirass leaves no more than a little hole, the spacing used in plate ensures that the wearer does not have a bad day from even the heaviest of crossbows
@@Detonate_Gaming That brings into question could a ballista be used to take down a WWI tank like the MKIV or FT? I'd imagine a huge bolt with a hardened steel tip could fuck up a 1/2" frontal plate of a Mark IV tank
@@ZP1993 Todd from Todd's workshop did talk to a girl that was in Bosnia during the war that said bows/crossbows were used to shoot through sandbags and it does work with modern bolts and arrows.
Man, I always love seeing dash pop up on the channel. His content is beyond nerdy and so much fun I think he'd be a fun guest on the podcast as well, just a thought.
As King Edward III of England supposedly said, "If you want to train a longbowman, start with his grandfather.". Fun video though and as a subscriber of Tod's Workshop I wish I could give 2 thumbs up ;-)
MEDIEVAL 2 theme, LET'S GO. Frickin loved this one. I know it's not as, "cool," as bang sticks to most people, but historical weapons and their impact on warfare have always fascinated me. I'd love to see something on the sling, javelin, atlatl, Chinese repeating crossbow, early "handguns"(the metal tube at the end of a stick with a fuse,) etc, as far as ranged weapons go if you're ever interested in covering those topics.
I'm seeing a pre-powder brutality course. Traditional bow or crossbow, has to be shot while carrying dagger and sword, hand axe or mace, and seperate classes for those in armour and those who would have been... meat.
More warbow content with a little crossbow as a treat. You have truly blessed us today, Admin, and as such I will give you this comment as a sacrifice to the algorithm gods.
Todd's~Workshop did vid w/a 1K draw, windlass crank. The bolt did, mostly, penetrate a era replica, shield. IIRC, Georg Sprave used a very powerful Windlas Cranked crossbow to see/show a bolt could do to a modern riot shield. I'm lazy and sticking to my old double barrel - simpler deal to use.
When giving projectile velocity, it's also useful to give projectile weight. This is a pretty solid video overall. It's important point that a crossbow is easier to use in armor than bow. That's possibly one reason why crossbows saw widespread use in Europe, included by very heavily armored soldiers. However, even in Europe, some archers wore considerable armor. Across the world, elite mounted archers wore various styles of armor that offered impressive levels of protection. So, while using a bow may force a person to wear less or different kinds of armor on certain parts of the body, it's not a huge difference. Finally, let's keep in mind that a 600lb crossbow with a steel prod hardly performs as well as the best medieval crossbows. In one test by Andreas Bichler, a 1,200lb horn crossbow spanned by cranequin managed nearly 230 fps & close to 150 foot-lbs of kinetic energy. By contrast, Joe Gibbs manages around 100 foot-lbs with a 160lb yew bow. While slower to span, this crossbow weighs under 8lbs & is this still quite easy to shoot & carry. & some medieval horn crossbows were even bigger. This suggests that the best medieval crossbows did hit considerably harder than yew warbows. Pietro Monte noted the danger of crossbows to a man-at-arms in full harness.
The war bow is awesome, but the reduced training time, simple logistics, shorter training time, and the ability to stay loaded definitely gives the crossbow a huge advantage.
@@TannerWilliam07 The crossbow is less tiring to use, so the rate of fire difference is only temporary. It's much easier to use a crossbow from cover (you don't have to stand up), so it has that advantage in a forest or village.
@alltat tiring? Not really, at most you'll be shooting 24 crossbow bolts or 30 arrows, because ammunition isn't unlimited. Fatigue is a minor factor. And looking at the very few select situations: sieges, boats, villages, and going: "see! Crossbow is best!" ...ignores the actual history of the warbow out-ranging and winning against crossbows. If you're under siege, you've likely already lost. If you're on a medieval boat, ramming and boarding will win the day, not a minor advantage in ranged troops. If you're a villager, you likely have no experience with combat, and will lose anyway. There WERE a decent amount of land battles in medieval history where one side won because they had warbows, and the other side lost because they had crossbows.
Knights loved crossbows and did use them in battle, tho the stereotype of a knight is that they only used lances and meele weapons but crossbows was commonly used by knights as well specially to note the Teutonic knights and their order was famously using it in the Northern crusades and as mounted crossbowmen too. Also there are fighting books which only the rich could afford showing how to use a crossbow on horse. so your larp is realistic.
Yeah. Pero Niño shoots crossbows in *El Victorial*, & spans heavy crossbows from the belt as a feat of strength. & heavily armored mounted crossbowers were a significant part of Western/Central European warfare until 1525 or so.
The biggest advantages the crossbow has over conventional bows are the ease of use and the ability to sustain fire for a much longer time. If you are using a heavy war bow, your rate of fire is going to greatly decrease after a few minutes. Since it takes much less strength to use a crossbow, they can be used for much longer without any loss of effectiveness.
The long bow has always been the best weapon!! The dwarf breaths so loud we could have shot him in the dark ! 😎👍🏻I miss the desert bro I lived most my life in Mesa az and it makes me feel at home watching your videos from VA brother . Thanks for what you’re doing bro!
Remember about context of use, and overcoming issues of previous platform! And technical sidenote - lever/pulling hook is used not only to reload fast, but to avoid changing windage! If you pull the string in an uneven way, it'll consistently fire off to one side. Pavis and cover - a big feature of crossbow, or xbow, is as name implies... the horizontally placed bow. Power came later, consider what were first crossbows that have proven the concept! So now get back behind a pavis, and think of shooting up at a castle wall. Take a bow - and with vertical bow you either need to duck out of the cover to the side, or take a step back to avoid bottom hitting the shield! With crossbow - you can just peek over the cover, staying near it. You can also lay prone while shooting it - that is not a concept available to a bow! But it comes with a downside - bowmen were used much like artillery, in that you'd fire off in volleys and you can shoot easily over large cover, like a hill, just need someone for fire correction. Flat parabolics are neat, but you can't use hills like this with an xbow. Using bow and crossbow in context of different scenarios in which they were used shows that there's much more to explore there. Really cool put together material - not trying to get nitpicky, just nerding out (I was shooting crossbow in comps about 20 years before getting a gun permit ;) )
One thing that you didn't touch on, the xbow is such higher poundage because the bolt has less time to accelerate (movement of the string) compared to the bow. Hence why the 160lbs bow had such a similar speed to the 600lbs xbow
Always fun to watch this stuff. Keep in mind english warbow is just one of many historical cultures within war bows. If you hear the weak point of armor and in masses you don't need a lot of power, and one war arrow inside a knight is mortal damage. Mongolian war bows with plate cutter arrows in my opinion were very effective.
I lime you, Dash Rendar, Metatron, and learning about the history of weapons and warfare. I think it's great that you're bridging the gap between the gun community and the medieval/ancient combat community.
I just found this channel I love it!!! perhaps lamellar wasnt so limiting when using horn bows(i see you showed the brigadine armor isnt so restrictive). also in 17th century eastern europe for example they were wearing chain mail such as the armored companion cavalry that used bows and pistols on horseback! Also bows were used in china into the late 1800s! Love the medieval 2 ost you threw in!!!
You need to bring Louis pons Livermore with his sling. He’d show you slings effectiveness against armoured troops. A half pound stone at 100 mph won’t penetrate but deal a huge concussion. A solid hit to the helmet, and the guy is dropping uncounscious.
The loose rate between the crossbow and longbow can be mitigated if you can train more soldiers in less time. I’m pretty sure this was also a major factor that resulted in the early shoulder cannons replacing the crossbow. It took less time to train a soldier to use the musket and they had almost the same fire rate (I think the musket had the edge) with the musket having more power, and so long as they had the logistics to build and maintain the new technology they could equip more soldiers with projectile weapons. It’s a really fascinating study the evolution of weapons technology.
You and Kentucky Ballistics need to invite the Shadiversity guys over to the land of the free to play with some fun stuff. That crossover is long overdue to happen at this point.
@@tesdrenga3517 bruh if you think Shad is a religious extremist you've clearly never met people like me. Shad is a pretty mediocre religious guy compared to me. So the religious extremism argument is pretty bullshit.
@@je2848 i've nothing against religion in general, but mormons are openly anti- lgbtq . why do you think shadiversity is struggling so much financially right now? A lot of people cut ties with him because he wont denounce his church's extreme views.
The substantial difference that you didn't take in consideration, and most people doing similar tests doesn't, is the momentum. At a similar speed a bolt is a punch, an arrow is a needle and that can make a really big difference in terms of damage.
In my opinion the Warbow is akin to today's Battle Rifle usually found more on designated marksmen, the Crossbow would be more akin to a assault rifle for greater volley of fire over time (crossbows can keep fire up longer than warbows, the archers tire easier)
I realized the music Instently and the game is incredibly good including the music. I've been playing M2TW for many years and I have thousands of hours it's one of the best games I've ever played along with the other older total war games especially Rome total war.
