The J&L 62 arrived here from Colorado on August 18. Here we take a first look at our newest addition to the family. J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad, Youngstown, OH youngstownsteel.org
It's great to have one of the J&L saddle tankers, but to have FOUR of them and in one place is like winning the lottery. And your idea to re-invent 62 into a 0-4-0 with a tender has my seal of approval. Wishing you and your group all the best and hope everything is safe and enjoyable from here on out.
Nice to see you again Rick! It's been a while, as for turning 62 into a tender engine I'd suggest making It look like what a tender engine version of the older J&L locomotives if J&L bought one new, can't wait to see 57, 60 and 62 run again with 58!
AWESOME!!!! :) I just checked earlier today to see if you had posted any videos this past week, and here you are a few hours later with some fantastic news. It is going to be AMAZING when all four of these locomotives can run up the hill together! :)
I passed the truck around medina last night on my way to work Friday night. At a glance, I realized it was of a narrower gauge and considered that you guys got a new project. Didn't think anything of it until finding this vid at random. Good to see she made it and happy to learn her history
In 2023, for something that hasn’t been in steam since what, the 50’s? In that good a condition that is an amazing thing. Being left under a shed of under a tarp definitely saved it, you don’t find locomotives like that now a days. Can’t wait to see it run, and seeing that everything is still there I doubt it’ll take you guys long to fix it.
This should be a treat I have been watching on youtube Sugar Mills locomotive restoration…it’s fascinating to watch a piece of scrap metal have a makeover with metal work engineers fashioning missing parts and restoring the boiler to safety standards 😊❤👍🇨🇦. can’t wait for your restoration to begin 😊
Making a low-slung tender version would've looked pretty awesome. I'd like to see that. A full arched cab roof and a hefty sand dome would sell the look.
Jones & Laughlin Steel No. 62 locomotive built by the HK Porter Co. in Pittsburgh, PA in October 1947 under works number 8147 for use at the J&L South Side Works. J&L No. 62 steam locomotive built by the HK Porter Co. in Pittsburgh, PA in October 1947 under works number 8147
Making it a tender engine with running boards is a good Idea, you could literally make a real life version of the LGB American 0-4-0 tender locomotive!
I'm a fan of Porter engines, particularly the 1880's era moguls, such as the 'Benkai'. Looks like you're going to enjoy yourself with these, so my7 best wishes to you. At Statfold Barn museum, near Tamworth they have another engine you'd like, not a Porter but a Davenport 0-4-0, 2 foot gauge tender engine. Built in the days when US engines still had wooden cabs, she was brought back from India where she's worked on a plantation. Having sat out of use for some years, the tree which had grown up through her firebox ashpan and out of the firehole door had to be cut off at ground level to move her. It came over to England with her, and is preserved at the museum, where she's now in full and regular running order. The pilot and drag beams, also being wooden, were infested with termites - the mechanic told his boss she's the only engine he'd ever seen with woodworm!
PS. I'm sure you know that Porter made a good many tender engnines? And I'm sure you'll have at least one copy of their past catalogues to give you ideas. Go to it, boys. Look forwards to seeing what you make of her.
Fantastic news! 62 looks to be in excellent condition. I'd been curious for a while whether you were going to experiment with one of the locomotives in the roster; great to hear you'll be doing something interesting with this one! The idea of visiting other lines is an exciting prospect too, though I imagine any rails it rolls over will be seriously put to the test, with how heavy it is. Maybe a pilot axle at the front would offset the weight a bit? Can't wait for more updates!
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage Yeah, that's sensible. Like I said before, I wish you the best of luck in refining the framework you've been provided with. Any way it goes, I'm sure 62 will be a shining ambassador of the J&L fleet.
0-4-0 tender engine sounds interesting; perhaps make sure the cab pokes above the boiler a few feet. I know these engines were built for low clearance for a purpose, but it does make them look clunky, IMO. If you have more clearance now, perhaps a taller cab would look good. . .
I'm really excited to see this project take shape. I don't think I've ever seen an 0-4-0 (or 2-4-0) tender engine in the united states, They probably exist, I just cant remember any of them or they just weren't that common.
Our friends at the American Industrial Railroad Society www.industrialrails.org/ are restoring Indiana Northern 4, a Baldwin 0-4-0 built with a tender.
They existed but fell out of favor among American railroads in favor of 0-6-0 or 0-8-0 Tender engines. The Pennsylvania railroad however still was fond of the wheel arrangement for industrial use, and had 0-4-0 tender engines like the A5 class around for work on lines with tight curve radius'.
Lookout and hit the deck! Rick's got a new project! In seriousness, 62 looks almost immaculate considering how long her boilers been cold and those rods idled! Any idea if 62 or any of the six were run while at Crown? Look forward to seeing what materializes from this!
Great news! Some thoughts: since you already have a spare boiler, look into building a double Fairley. You should also look into Porter's history to see if they made a conventional engine so you can build a copy. You might also look at a 2-4-0 or 2-4-2. Finally, how about a Mason Bogue? (2-4-4T) or a replica of the Maine 2 footers? With the proper effort, Youngstown could become a major center for 2' gauge.
As fun as Fairlies are, I feel like it'd be a little overkill; these little locos are already powerful enough on their own. Building a new set of drivers and cylinders would be really costly too. Additional unpowered axles would probably help offset their absurd weight, though, which would be a big load off of other railways it may visit.
The way the frames are built do not lend well to adding trailing or pilot wheels. Just not a lot of space down there and no way to equalize the spring rigging.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage That makes sense. The space between the cylinders looks like an exceptionally tight squeeze; even if you somehow managed to finagle something in there, I imagine it'd be a nightmare to access for maintenance. Well, at least the lack of a saddle tank will lighten the axle load a bit. Complicated machines! Best of luck in your endeavors to build upon the design.
We are under the Ohio historical boiler laws which do not require the removal of good tubes. Hydro test and visual inspection through the washout holes is required every three years. Inspector can request tube removals if needed for a thorough inspection. We will also have ultrasound readings to consult.
Regarding your probable conversion of J&L 62 into a tender locomotive, the New South Wales Government Railways ( NSWGR ),( Australia ) had ordered 145, 4-6-4 tank locomotives for the Sydney suburban system becoming the 'S - 636' class, in the 1924 renumbering of NSWGR locomotives these locomotives became the ''C30' class. When the system was electrified in 1928 quite a lot of these 'C30' class locomotives became surplus to requirement so it was decided to convert some of these tank locomotives into tender locomotives. The first of these converted locomotives steamed out of the NSWGR Eveleigh Railway Workshops in August 1928, these converted locomotives were classed as the 'C30T' class, in this case the 'T' stands for 'Tender' and 'not tank'. Tenders from other classes of withdrawn steam locomotives were matched up with these converted locomotives. These locomotives were to be used on lightly laid country branch lines as well as used as shunting locomotives at other places even in city regions. I don't know if this information is any good to you but it's that you may look at to get some ideas on how you decide what to do. Best wishes.
Technically if you rebuilt the frame.... you would a fifth locomotive because you already have the boiler for 59! Also think it would be cooler to still have it as a tank engine!
Rick, how did you locate this loco? Is she going into restoration immediately? What about the other two? For the length of the railroad, you have the motive power. Oooh triple headers! Better still, a camelback!
Will you consider doing the #62 instead of the #57? She looks great in addition to being ten years newer! Where is the smoke box door? TM retired but still interested.
Hi Rick, congratulations for your fourth Porter Locomotive. I am a model railroader from germany. Do you know a 3D print file for this loco is available? Greetings Mike
Yes I know. I said the wrong word. Simple error, but to you that is "stunning ignorance"? Wow. I'll bet the steam locomotives that you have restored are absolutely perfect!
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage, Folks need the grace to recognize we are human, whoa! Rick, your efforts and accomplishments are amazing and admired. Stiff upper lip. Kudos to you!
