650 POINTS MIDDLE EARTH SBG BATTLE REPORT | Helm's Guard vs Cirith Ungol 

Haha yep - although I 100% through it away because I was going for a bigger score. Should have kept Helm safe!

100%, I'm hoping we can make a Battle Report to coincide with the new film if all goes well. 🤞 And thank you for the kind feedback, it is a difficult to balance strategy, dice rolls and us talking over each other!

Thank you so much!! We're not yet, but it's where we want to be. :)

Thanks very much! We're still finding our feet it's really nice to know people are enjoying it :)

Thank you! First of more regular updates hopefully!

Thanks, glad you're enjoying! We only go to about three tournaments a year so are still learning ourselves, but nice to have an outlet to share some knowledge. :)

Brill! Getting word out and sharing them is the hardest part so I'm glad you found us, more to come soonish! :)

Not yet! But thanks, and we will do! 😁

Thanks very much, they're great fun to make!

That's great to hear! It's difficult to decide what level of info to give - gonna make something for brand new players at some point - but really glad you're enjoying! And I thought they could Shield if they were Expert Rider but I haven't got my rulebook to hand. There's already a small catalogue of TwoTrees rules errors we can add it to! 😂

Thank you!! 😁

Thanks! There will be 1000 points of Iron Hills vs The Three Trolls and Goblin Town in the not too distant future! 😁

Thank you! Genuinely will keep getting better as we have a second camera now! :)

I'm trying to make templates for things as we go so they should get quicker and easier to do. Thanks so much for subscribing, it means a lot!

@@twotreesgaming You're welcome 🙂

Thank you! Love both these legions, taking Helm to a one day tourney tomorrow actually!

Thank you, means a lot!

Thanks! Hoping to get one out roughly every other week. 🤞

Thank you! And the quality will keep getting better hopefully, this one was filmed a while ago :)

Thanks so much! We try to explain as much as possible!

Thanks! More to come in theory 😁

That's a very generous comment, we're still improving! But it's much appreciated 😁

Thanks! 😁 Yeah Shelob is a real head scratcher because she's such a threat in so many ways but I think she might take a while to master.

@@twotreesgaming Agreed, everyone thinks the survival instinct is her big weakness, but I think it's the 0 might. I've played many games with her. Not once has she ran away. Died plenty, but that will has been enough to keep her around. I've had the best luck keeping her lurking picking off stragglers. I try not to throw her into a big fight unless I can get one of my banners nearby. For me, a real head scratcher is bringing an orc shaman along. minor hero who can only help half my army is not really what I want to be spending points on.

Thanks! And I know right?! Always a fun editing process when you know it was a good game 👌

Thanks very much! 😁

Haha thank you!

Thanks! We'll get some WIP shots on Instagram for it at some point. But yeah, would love to do some scenery stuff- I think a flood Isengard or Moria may be on the cards. But not painting, that's not our strong point 😂

Thank you! 😁

Hopefully you'll have a couple to come back to by then! Thanks for the support :)

Thanks! Should be one every other week till the new year if all goes to plan!

Looking forward to it lads!!

Couldn't agree more! We've got three more videos ready to go up in this format and then we go to two cameras which I've just started editing through- one for what you see here and one for glorious closeups (of averagely painted models 😂).

Thank you so much!

No they can't!! We messed up 😂 I got confused thinking Expert Riders could, luckily it didn't affect the game

Constructive criticism accepted! 😂 Should be every other week from now 🤞

Very good suggestion- it shall be Might spent from hence forth! (Although I've already finished the next couple of bat reps, but soon after that..!) I think for kills I'll leave it so as not to confuse at this point, but I understand where you're coming from- could see it as kills or models remaining... Thanks so much for watching!

Yeah I got confused thinking that you could if you were Expert Rider... :)

@@twotreesgaming super fair. I was using my knight to screen off Imrahil (thereby having a F5 knight that could shield and prevent the trap) which I found out after the game I couldn't do. Could have actually swung the game hard if I had played it properly!

Definitely! And probably what I'd have done in a tournament. The fact it's my brother means bragging rights comes into play so going for a 12-0 over a 6-5 becomes a thing..! 😂

Yeah I would not want to be on the receiving end! His Fight 5 is his only downside really and that can be mitigated

We're good thanks! In hibernation at the moment as lots of real life work on but will have new stuff out in the spring 😁

Glad to hear ya’ll are well!

Thanks- will keep improving!

Yeah they can't, we thought Expert Riders could 🤦‍♂️

Yeah I didn't explain it too great but he's tied up all the cavalry he can get to whilst remaining in 6" of Gorbag. One was left to charge him which you can see on 16:30 (again, not great play..!).

He wasn't on my radar till this battle, now I'm just waiting for a low points tournament..!

Yeah we thought Expert Riders could shield... Since been corrected! There will be many more rules errors to come I'm sure..! 😬

Ha yeah I know..! Very enjoyable to play though. :)

Yeah my brain melted and though Expert Riders could 🤦‍♂️

@@twotreesgaming I am pretty sure it's infantry only. Experts can reroll thrown and jump and pick up light objects

Yeah you're 100% right I just forgot 🤦‍♂️😂

I probably won't take this route from a graphical point of view - I think it'd be quite a lot of work (especially if I went into special rules too) but I am very aware the videos are very much for those who know the game inside out at the moment. I'll try to add a bit more in the way of explanation of stats going forward, and looking to make a beginner friendly report with the whole works at some point too!

Yeah they can't, got confused and thought they could if they were expert rider 🤦‍♂️

@@twotreesgaming would be pretty cool if they could loved the video though strangely enough these two lists are the ones I'm thinking of taking to a good Vs evil tourney happening in nov

Great choices! Would love to see how they do, I'm thinking they'd both be decent at low points levels.

Haha might be our part of the world, or our general lack of need to often use the word shaman... 😂

I wouldn’t say “typically”. I rarely hear anyone pronounce it “shay”

Haha we aim for just random settings and participants for the Matched Play style games. Saving the themed armies and boards for specific narrative scenarios otherwise we'll just end up doing similar battles all the time!

Yeah it's a tough call! See our Gothmog vs Shire video to see what happens when you got for the horse..! 😂

Yeah I was mistaken thinking Expert Rider meant you could..! 🤦‍♂️

Hi Mikey, thank you! My hope is to do a beginner friendly video at some point with explainers. For two-handed weapons- some of the orcs and half the uruk-hai are armed with them. They've paid points to have them in addition to their regular weapons so may choose to use them or not (some profiles have only two-handed weapons and so must use them). When using a two-handed weapon, you get -1 to the Duel roll with those attacks but then +1 To Wound when making Strikes. You're often better to go one handed unless you also have a regular weapon in the fight! Pikes are not "two-handed weapons" even though they require two hands to carry, they have their own separate section and are basically spears that can fight through two warriors instead of one.

@@twotreesgaming Thanks for the reply!! I want to get the rules etc. correct from the beginning so I don't get into a bad habit. I'm looking forward to the upcoming game. Thanks again for a finely edited and produced video.