there's 3 points of cable management - better airflow, easier access (switching components, removing drives etc.) and obviously the aesthetics, for the 1st and 3rd all you need is stuff the cables behind the backplate but it still counts xd
I built my PC doing that and wondered why everyone thought cable management sucked. Then I realized when it was done that, it's a fucking mess that I'll never be able to untangle.
Why everyone is saying this card is bad bro wtf, I'd rather upgrade to 6500xt from 1050ti bruh, with 1050ti i have like 50-60 fps with stutters in warzone and I saw 6500xt and i5 11400f that have like 90-100 fps 1080p comp settings, so don't say it's a bad card bruh...
@@sepimomane5158 because the 1050Ti is an awful card too? Even as a low power it's so far away in performance from its neighboring cards. It's been 6 (SIX FUCKING YEARS) since then and all we have to show is this card? Which is on the level of a 1650 (another horrible card) for $200. That's a huge regression
@@raresmacovei8382 It is, but Witcher 3 has always scaled exceptionally well, even with hardware at that time. You can't say the same for cyberpunk optimization.
@@raresmacovei8382 I'd say not technologically more advanced enough to carry the game. It really does feel like they've reused tons more tech than made sense to, and then tried to make it work.
@@JacksGameReviews no. Ssd speed is not a bottleneck in modern games. It's higher single core performance you want, if anything, until direct storage hits.
Can't say I agree. Majority of games actually run quite well nowdays. The trick is to use settings that allow you to hit your target fps consistently l, and then use vsync or gsync as well as frame limiting software. Works with most well made games. Also, it really pays to play games 1-2 years post launch when they are finally finished and fixed.
hello, i saw that you have been replying to a few comments, and I would just like to say that it is really nice seeing a creator on youtube replying to comments with well written replies
I notice a lower frame rate with Ancient on my PC. I have a 2060 Super and Ryzen 5 3600 in mine. I go from around 250-300 fps on most maps to around 150-200 on Ancient.
i7-8700k, rtx 2060 super and i have 250-430 fps on every map (except for ancient, where i also have 150-220 ish)... im on 240hz monitor so yeah always banning ancient in pugs :D
It could be the phone I am watching this, but somewhere in the video pipeline, some stutter came in. Maybe the capture card was lagging, you exported in 24 fps or RU-vid did something, but even the games where you said "perfectly playable" made me feel some kind of lag
Chapter with Crysis Remastered starts with the same song you used in Source engine demo video. I just can't unsee the same that HDR effects in this footage
Nice video, not sure why it didn't show up in my subs! While I don't have a 6500XT, I found that playing CS:GO on Linux removed pretty much all of the stuttering for me. Average FPS was a bit lower, but it was much more consistent. Maybe that would be something to test, if you are interested
Great video Phil, was half expecting it to be about ryzen new lineup but i assume you ll do a full video when it releases. Would love to see how those new cpus run in pcie 3
Hey what's the background music in the Quake Champions part? I was reminded of Ratz Instagib 2.0's BGM especially with the similar gameplay between it and Quake.
Why wasn't I recommended this video??? I'm subscribed and constantly watch your videos, but apparently The Algorithm doesn't want me to watch these videos.
I know this is an older video and the verdict on the 6500xt has been set in stone at this point but I was scrolling through the comments and no one really mentioned the memory's bus width. While running in PCIE3 is for sure bottlenecking - The bus is only 64 bits. If you don't minimize textures, it'll eventually be like shoving strawberries through a funnel. Even with older titles, the scaling just won't be there.
This is the second time in a row one of you 2klik's videos hasn't been in my subscriptions. I cycled my subscription to see if that fixes it but that's super weird.
Something funky going on with the subtitles. I don't know how RU-vid codes them, it could be the fact that you've only just made it public but it's skipping over lines extremely fast, most of which haven't even been said yet and then it finds the right line, but desynced
Thanks for video. Cool selection of games. I am most interested in ray tracing performance on sub 1080p resolutions. Today Radeon Super Resolution should premiere - so maybe tests in 720p\830p and 900p\960p + RSR + your opinion? Quake championship performance got me really unplesantly surprised. My guess is it's 900p card - created to work with FSR.
Low spec struggle is soo exciting for me. From my 6700xt experience with cyberpunk its 1440p fsrq (960p internal) and only rt reflections, for dying light I recommend digital foundry rt optimized with RTGI and RTAO - and then adjust resolution - My 6700xt got 60fps with some drops and stutters. So the best that can be done is 720p-900p range. WD Legion should go 900p@80%+RSR medium rt medium and should look a lot better than 720p on xbox series s.
On that note - I would be fun to compare 6800u with 12cu and +50% more powerful Ray tracing alus (28W and with hack to power limits if widely available ) with 6500xt but discrete card, high clocks and regular RT ALU - that's all my dreams, I myself don't anymore have time and money to deal with it, I'd be grateful for whatever you present.
Did you hide the video from subscriptions feed? I only use the subscription menu to watch the videos I want and it gets a little frustrating that I can't see all the videos from the channels I subscribe to.
The drop in performances for the 6500XT is probably due to filling up the memory. That card only has 4GB of memory. The driver will most likely try to swap to RAM at that point and it will bottleneck hard on the GPU. I worked into optimizing some high profile PC game and it's something we had an issue with at one point. You can monitor it by going into task manager > performances > graphic processor. Once you fill up the dedicated memory and start seeing the shared memory go up is when you'll most likely see a performance drop.
Vram is not going to be a problem with older games, and even then should be fixable with a lower resolution. Task manager is a bad diagnostic tool because vram is one of those things that is wasted if it's not used, so any program will eat as much vram as it can and only limit itself once it nears the max capacity.
@@AGuy-vq9qp of course it wouldn't be a problem in older games, this comment was, I think, made in relation to him mentionning stuttering in shadow of mordor. As for VRAM being wasted when not used, I have no idea where you got that. I am a software engineer one some AAA title and a big part of my work was balancing VRAM usage. I remember once where I had an issue with stuttering happening only on AMD cards. I noticed we were eating way too much memory due to some bug and I used task manager a lot to figure out when the issue happened. The stuttering would happen pretty much exactly as we started filling the shared memory when the dedicated memory was full. This is not a diss on AMD cards either, it just happens to stutter because we were doing something wrong, NV just always does shit in your back ... so it looks like you are doing the right thing. Anyways, I hope this helps you!
I have a rx 6600 with 8gb of vram but still get stutters or framedrops in lots of games, Mainly the Witcher 3 where on horseback it just drops to 45 fps from locked 60 (i was using 4k texture mod tho), Ubisoft games run like shit on my pc ac origins is barely playable. Mostly CPU intensive games run like shit. I have: Rx 6600 16gb 3200MHz Ryzen 7 2700 ASRock b450m pro4
I am fairly young and i play a lot of quake champions and seeing quake champions in a kliksphilip thumbnail made me very curious about what would be said and I'm not sure I would have watched this video otherwise. I'm very tired right now because i am an overworked college student but i am now giggling at the idea of going low in quake champions.
Crytek already mentioned Crysis 1 Remastered won't get any other updates. And it's really weird seing that prompt. I only have a 5700 XT, but the game ran like butter. And it's not like RDNA2 is doing anything special with RT in the game, given the RT is software based unless you have an RTX GPU.
Hey Philip I haven't had an 2klik videos in my feed since the Dying Light one, and I haven't had your last two 3kliks videos in my feed either. saw other people talking about it so thought I'd share
Performance on the 6500xt is about 10~15% different. This isn't true for other graphics cards at its level, it's just how it's designed causes performance improvement.
You don't play your Skyrim with the fps unlocker? There is a mod that auto tweaks the physics to your framerate and fixes the issues. Uncapped Skyrim is cool
It's called Quake Champions. Also it is the only game I play. What you should've done for testing on a 1080p monitor is setting everything to low and resolution scale to 75%. I know it sounds off putting but it actually helps even with more powerful cards such as my 1660 ti for example. Pros use like the RTX 3070, all low settings at 1080 except lighting that you have to bump up to high to see shadows of enemies that can reveal their location. I can recommend you try to get good at quake. Once you're half decent you're not going to want to play anything else though. Even as an average player in this game you need +250 fps to be able to stay consistent. The pros have gone up to 360Hz displays and in this title it makes a difference over 240Hz even. I'm stuck at 240Hz and that will have to do for now.
Wonderful review! May I ask, could you test THIS system with games run via an emulator? I love re-playing old games from the PS2 era. By the way, certain handhelds such as PSP and Nintendo 3DS had some pretty cool games as well. Thank you once again for your excellent video!
Just wanted to let you know that some of your videos don't show up in my subscription feed despite being a long time subscriber. I noticed it happened with this video, and I remember other times thinking "Why am I only seeing this in my recommended videos?". The video just isn't present in my subscriptions at all, and I am not sure why.
I wonder if the issues with certain games can be remedied through open source drivers. I've heard that the open source drivers for AMD cards are actually quite good.
Didn't mean to be rude btw. Just thought you were trolling because everytime you said championship, on the screen there was the correct version. Glad you found it close to the original quake arena experience I am 20 years old and wasn't there to experience it myself in the early 2000's. It's a very small community with 600 people playing concurrently so when I heard you pronounce it wrong I felt like nobody even can pronounce the name right who would even fucking play it man. Really like the game doesn't want it to die. Sorry if I come out as rude you most of the time got the technical details right so pronouncing the name wrong I thought you were joking.
lol there's nothing underrated about the witcher in fact of all the Witcher games, 3 is the most popular and gets constant attention especially when it was initially released. You've been living unde a rock my guy.
in Quake champions almost no one plays under 1920x1080 res everyone including pros play with native res with low render res to get high fps. It's nothing like CS and very underrated FPS game
Pros play with resolution scale 75% because the width of the enemy outline is defined in pixels on screen. Because of this if you lower the resolution of the game the enemies effectively get a bigger outline making them easier to see. Same amount of pixels become larger on a smaller resolution. If the devs would change how the enemy outline works making it constant width no matter the resolution pros would use native resolution I bet.
i have a 6500xt and on cs go i have 400 fps, my motherboard is pcie 4.4 butmy cpu is intel 10th gen and it has pcie 3 will i get more performance with 11th gen cpu?
having only used gaming laptops with optimus so far i had to deal with pcie bandwidth limit all the time. and from experience its usually drow distance/textures (mostly geometry related stuff) that limited my performance. and yes if u ever heard laptops with optimus usually have less fps than laptops with mux switch/gpu directly connected to the display due to bandwidth limitation between the nvidia gpu and the integrated gpu and they obv communicate through pcie lanes.
Tldr, only buy a 6500 Xt if you are on PCIe 4.0 if not try to find a used rx 470/480 4GB and overclock it. I can get good performance out the card as a stop-gap on my pcie 4.0 system until I can grab a 3080. I could tune the memory to 19.2GBit (153.6GB/s) with fast timings enabled instead of the stock 18 (144GB/s) and get the core to 2.975GHz.
Nobody plays Quake with higher than minimum settings unless they have the headroom and still get over 240fps Even I have everything low 1080p 75% resolution
@@Acer0c Sure Rapha talked about shadows giving a slight competitive advantage.. Buuut... I sure don't play on he's lvl... and nether do you... so... To us that very small advantage means nothing.
@@Acer0c A high fps makes all the difference between being able to play at high rank. Just by limiting my fps to 120 I would instantly drop by 100 or 200 elo. If you are going to make a comparison, at least make one that actually is comparable. Needing shadows is as rare as needing Visors ability. If you don't know where the enemy is by gut feeling, you already lost the game.
@Acer0c Sure I do run a 1060. And I will continue to use it till RTX 4000 comes out since 3000 series hasn't deflated. And I haven't bought a temporary upgrade just because the 1060 was the temporary GPU, since my 980Ti gave the magic blue smoke. And how was this conversation block worthy? How do you play quake if you can't even talk with a stranger without quitting mid convo. xD
@@Acer0c Wise man once said: Don't expect everyone is out there to get you. (Referencing "humans are not inherently evil") Wise man also said: Offences are taken not given. (Referencing it's just a matter of perspective) I said shadows make negligible difference between winning and losing unless you play at the top. I also said if shadow's effect FPS... Aka, with low end GPUs, you should prioritize FPS. Your point was "I have good enough GPU that enabling shadows don't effect me" Your point also was from my perspective, "You should prioritize the rare fringe scenarios over overall smooth experience that effects the entire game." Your point also was "If you don't take the game seriously 100% why bother only doing 99% when you could just chill with 10%" To which I tried to explain, what you are suggesting, would worsen my ability to play. Just because you might be less capable player in terms of knowing your enemies wear abouts, doesn't mean it's an insult, it only means you have less experience, and no one can fault you for that. I repeat: Offences are taken not given. My last replys "offence" was a reference to players that I keep encountering that quit after I hit 3 rails in a row, or kill them 4 times withing 1 minute etc. Also... your reason for blocking is dumb... you can just mute notifications... like wtf mate. You really need to chill out, no matter how bad your day may be xD The mere fact hat you even consider blocking, means you are short tempered.
Feels bad when they don't understand that after blocking, their messages disappear... And I'm left with only the start of the comment... The comments don't come back after unblocking...
Witcher 3 is an odd game with older GPUs. My old battlehammer, AMD HD6870 with only 1GB of ram which is below of minimum system requirements, ran fine with default settings.
