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Today we take a close look at the Stihl MS 271 Farm Boss and Compare It to a Pro Series Stihl MS 261. Both are Great Firewood Saws, Both have 18" Bar, We go over the features on both and then you can decide if a pro series is worth the extra cost for you.
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@glassmw9823
@glassmw9823 3 года назад
7:51 is where it starts
@billynewman2951
@billynewman2951 2 года назад
The real MVP
@bobbybrooks5846
@bobbybrooks5846 Месяц назад
I had him pull over twice so I could piss 😂
@lukedias5859
@lukedias5859 29 дней назад
Dude got a degree in yappanomics
@BenKickert
@BenKickert 3 года назад
This just popped in my feed. Watching it, I burst into laughter when he said "I am chomping at the bit for 2020." If only he knew what it would hold...
@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans
@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans 3 года назад
Truth
@imateapot51
@imateapot51 3 года назад
On January 5th I went out searching for N95 masks and was already a few weeks too late. I knew it was coming. 2021 is not going to be much better. Now I need to find a video where I can learn how to cut up a huge fallen ash tree with a 20 inch bar on a farm boss 290.
@ArlynEmrys
@ArlynEmrys 3 года назад
6:40 sec. this comment made me laugh even more when he said, bc I read this 1st. Mask vs. no mask: has been no real test in the world supporting masks, except schlieren imaging, done by an independent engineer in his basement. However, recently someone gave me a level 3 mask. significant difference between this and a standard freebie or cloth mask.. it has an extra sheer like layer inside & my glasses do not fog up. A real world test would be 2 months in any state requiring level 3 masks vs. any other state with similar numbers without a mask. I think it would be eye-opening if there were actual requirements for the type of mask. Then we would know for certain if masks were bad or good. from the Schlieren, it's obvious that covering your mouth is beneficial, but unless your sneezing, prepping food or working on a medical issue, I'm not sure what the advantage is for having the mask not hang loosely just below your chin, which would also keep glasses from fogging up, break up airflow & provide more airflow. Fresh air is actually good for people.
@wbball15
@wbball15 Год назад
@@ArlynEmrys when in doubt contact an Industrial Hygienist. They're the experts who tell doctors what PPE to wear when.
@noturbizz1
@noturbizz1 3 месяца назад
from a master carpenter with a ms 261, an n95 is a 20% reduction in dust inhalation. demoing a horse hair plaster wall you will quickly realize masks are mind control vs. stopping a tiny virus. AND buying a stihl? awesome!! Do buy a pro saw, can't afford it? wait till you can. the m tronic 261cm is #1 recommended saw by arborist. starts at 10, or 90 degrees the same, clogged filter, elevation, bad gas, the carb adjusts itself so it runs full rpm always. buy a pro saw.
@karlcarnevale4948
@karlcarnevale4948 4 года назад
I was shopping for a saw two years ago right around the time I found your channel. My dealer showed all those same differences. I asked him about the cases. He said the MS 261 Pro .saw was magnesium to aid in the cooling of that engine. He said that is a key for someone that cuts everyday all day. The cooling aids in the saw lasting longer. Great feature for those pro rated saws. Internet search and RU-vid vids and experience using a 036 pro saw I knew I wanted the MS 261 Pro. For me I chose the MS 271. After talking to the dealer I knew the amount of wood I cut a year 3 full cord or 6 face cord. So MS 271 came home with me and set on the shelf waiting for it’s first day of use. So a week later I am at my Doctors office for a problem with my hand(Dupuytren Contraction). Surgery two weeks later. Oh pretty new saw see you soon. A month after that I meet with my shoulder surgeon. Shoulder surgery scheduled. Oh pretty saw we will cut wood soon. I go through all the rehab and physical therapy that my insurance will cover. I feel pretty good but not read to cut firewood. So I wait to get stronger and more confident with this newly scoped shoulder and reattached bicep. I had two good months and I was back at my surgeon in pain wishing I never had the surgery. As you guess it and if your still reading what was the next step. Yes Surgery and a complete shoulder replacement. I had 5 total visits to physical therapy. Two of the visits lasted an hour. After that ten minutes and all the physical therapists scratching their heads out how well I felt and how quickly progressed. So about two months after surgery I looked at my never used pretty saw we had our first dance and cut some firewood. I put one tank of fuel through my new saw and was so happy to have done that. Oh yeah I didn’t mention I am only 47. I love that saw.
@mikebalos4749
@mikebalos4749 4 года назад
Good video Mike. I have a MS 270 and it has improved with time over the years, it cuts faster now than when it was new. The big difference between the 271 and 261 is the 271 is a clam shell and the 261 is a split case. The case and side cover etc. on the 271 is plastic and the case and side cover on the 261 is magnesium. I have run both with both the chains you mentioned. Both are great saws and with proper care will last many years. I also have a MS 390 and that has the decomp valve on it as well as an adjustable oiler.
@shawndickmann8215
@shawndickmann8215 4 года назад
I've always liked the look of red pines, good looking tree, planted about 60 on my property in the last couple years.
@joshgriffith3562
@joshgriffith3562 4 года назад
Hey Mike thanks for the vid! I have owned both, but currently i own the 261c-m. My buddy runs a firewood business and needed a new saw so i sold him my 271 that was just barely a year old. The 271 surprised me for being a mid grade saw for the money. It was pretty good on gas too. The 261c-m i have is definitely a pro saw and will really surprise you with the power to weight. It is really ergonomic and just a joy to run. The differences of the 261 over the 271 Magnesium case and side cover Felling sights Decompression valve Heavy duty air cleaner Elastostart starter Supposedly a better anti vibe system Higher compression I think it revs 1k rpm higher Easier to rebuild the top end Captured bar nuts Adjustable Oiler with metal gears vs plastic Stainless steel muffler vs zinc plated Rim sprocket clutch setup I have a ms261c-m which is the m-tronic version. So far i love it. It simply just rips. I’m still breaking it in and it’s still impressing me. I’ve grown up around pro saws my whole life as my family is fourth generation loggers. That’s why i went with the 261 after i owned the 271, but for the money the 271 is a great saw don’t get me wrong. For the 261 I bought the sprocket cover side felling dog that matches the inside one that comes on the saw and it helps with bucking thick barked wood and also flush cutting stumps. I also put a full chisel rapid super chain on it before i even started it for the first time. Mike, can i suggest maybe re-tuning your 261 or getting it re-tuned? I can see that yours isn’t the m-tronic version and it sounds like it’s possibly not tuned to its potential. You should be able to get more speed and faster acceleration out of it.
@davidbraun9309
@davidbraun9309 3 дня назад
Love my 261c (about 6 years old?) never took it to the shop until recently. Took it in because the keeper clip on the sprocket came off, and I wasn't sure if more parts were missing; also had a frayed cord and old chain. Told them to "check it out" and give me a new chain and pull cord. Picked it up and they had run a diagnostic and fiddled with the carb. Now it won't run at all, after using it for less than an hour! I think all it needed was a clip for the sprocket and a cord, but I was lazy.
@gregwagner7125
@gregwagner7125 4 года назад
Hi Mike, I have a MS271. I don't cut nearly as much wood as you but it's a really Great saw, I would recommend to anyone. Perfect for my heavily wooded 5 acres down here in Florida.
@kevinharris1392
@kevinharris1392 4 года назад
Bought myself a new 271 for Christmas,had to have a new saw to go with a new truck. It cuts a bit slower, but just for firewood and cutting a down tree out the road,it does fine. Main reasons why I bought it, this new addition makes number 14.
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 3 года назад
Thanks! I know this is last year but I found it very helpful. I live in a farming area of Southern California, San Diego (Yep, that's right, North San Diego has lots of farming). Both of my local Stihl Dealers are terrible at explaining the differences between their saws and line trimmers. I tend to copy what I see the tree trimmers use that work for San Diego Gas and Electric. It sure would be helpful if Stihl would train their people to be as helpful as you are here. Where I live the attitude is kinda like if you are buying a Stihl, you should already know what model you want. So the counter people are more like Sales Clerks and not Salesmen/women.
@dmacwv
@dmacwv 4 года назад
Great video! Hit every point I was debating while I was searching for a new saw. I went with the 261-more power, less weight. I also chose the M-tronic option. I've never had fiddle with carb settings, and it's worked perfectly.
@2020Tundra
@2020Tundra 4 года назад
Great video, Mike! I bought a MS 261 back in September and I love it. It’s light, but strong for that size saw. Definitely a featherweight compared to my MS 661.
@HTPJohn
@HTPJohn 4 года назад
Nice comparison video Mike, thanks! We have a 271 and like it quite a bit. It starts, runs, and idles. All day every time we use it. It does what we need it to do.Keep 'em coming. God Bless.
@ianschulze1461
@ianschulze1461 4 года назад
We live on 5 acres of wooded land and I have the 271 for firewood, and the 170 for limbing. I love both of those saws. The captive nuts would be amazing , because I've lost 2 out in the field.
@aquaticconceptsbringingwaterto
@aquaticconceptsbringingwaterto 4 года назад
Happy New Year to the Morgan family. Quote of the day: Smile every chance you get; not because life has been easy, perfect, or exactly as you had anticipated, but because you choose to be happy and grateful for all the good things you do have, and all the problems you don’t have. You must accept the that life is not perfect, that people are not perfect, and that you are not perfect. that’s okay, because the real world doesn't reward perfection. It rewards people who have intent and are determined to get things done. Each of us has the power to make a difference regardless of how trivial it may appear to us at the time, It is the intention that carries the true meaning of the act! Kindness and love are the most rewarding gifts we can give, and they don't have a price tag attached to them. Make today your chance to give something back...your reward will be in how it makes you feel! ~ George Wheeler
@briankleinkopf8557
@briankleinkopf8557 4 года назад
I like that George, well said buddy!
@codylay4341
@codylay4341 4 года назад
I have the ms261c, the captive nuts are a must when your fumbling around with gloves. I've had it for 2 years now and love it. This summer I did have a NO start problem after the saw was hot. That ended up being a solenoid issue that caused it to flood.
@goindownhill1116
@goindownhill1116 4 года назад
Good video. I have the Farm Boss. Very good saw. That 261 runs nice. I may have to get one. I’ve been dropping Red Pine trees for 6 years now. I manage my hunting property by opening up the canopy. The red pine were planted as part of a Christmas tree farm in 1989. I wish I could harvest them but the access road is just a small two track. By putting half these trees on the ground the sun light is now getting to the forest floor and it is green instead of a carpet of brown pine needles. Always a challenge when cutting trees that are so close together. It is also best to cut them in the winter because of the pine sap. I’ve put about 250 down and have about 100 more to go. Thanks for the videos.
@profdave2861
@profdave2861 4 года назад
I think one thing that few have mentioned in the comments, although Mike does in the overview of the saws, is the weight. I have cut firewood for over 40 years, some from purchased logs and more recently from a hundred acre property I bought 5 years ago. While the difference of a pound and a half may not seem much when you’re 30 or 40 or even 50, for most of us, once we hit our 60’s, even half a pound makes a difference when you’re throwing a saw around for hours at a time. This is less noticeable if you’re just bucking up logs, but when felling, limbing, as well as bucking, that little bit of weight is really noticeable on 60-something (or 70... or 80) year old bodies. Many of us develop arthritis and are living with old injuries (usually from silliness in our youth!) that we really feel after hours on a saw. I started on finger-numbing, ear-splitting Pioneers with no chain brake, and after a close call on a kick-back (with the scar to prove it), I moved to a “modern” Stihl 028 Wood Boss. That saw stills runs like new with only a few carb cleanings to keep it going, but over the years I have acquired a MS170 (wilderness camping and light work), a MS250 (best power to weight in the Stihl consumer saws), a MS362 for bigger work, and recently a MS261. The power, lighter weight, and virtually zero vibration on the 261 and 362 are amazing. However, given all of these saws I own and use, for anyone that wants the absolute best performing all around LOW COST LOW WEIGHT saw for occasional use with moderate size wood, my top recommendation would be a MS250 with an 18” blade - it is an outstanding combination of power, weight, and cost. Check the specs - the 250 is 3hp at 10.1 lbs. The 271 is 3.5hp at 12.2 lbs. You’ barely notice the hp difference but you will surely feel that extra 2.1 lbs!
@hogman2524
@hogman2524 4 года назад
Good comparison!!, I have the 261 and love it!! Over time it has paid for the difference , IMO!
@tylergoodwin304
@tylergoodwin304 3 года назад
I personally own. 271, and run a 261 for my job. Both excellent saws but the weight difference is noticeable when cutting trail to a fire. I feel a 16” bar offers the best length for power! Great video! You got a new sub out of it!!! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦🤙
@groundpounder24365
@groundpounder24365 4 года назад
I have my guys run a 271 for a top/brush saw with the occasional bucking as well. It has been a great saw and saves my company some money. Iv not had any complaints and i feel the 271 is a excellent saw for professional use. Ours get ran almost daily and has been for the last 3 yrs with no issues whatsoever.
@ColoradoFPV
@ColoradoFPV 4 года назад
I own the 261 c-m (no needles, No Bogging!) and can't say enough about the saw for long days cutting firewood, It's light and for the size and weight it's amazing. Just open the exhaust port a bit and take the baffle out and it rips!
@treepaulandrade5920
@treepaulandrade5920 4 года назад
Glad I bought one yesterday 261c
@uncletony3674
@uncletony3674 3 года назад
How you liking it? Is it holding up?
@henryrodgers3409
@henryrodgers3409 4 года назад
Great video Mike . Love these comparison videos . Darn it . Now I want to get a MS261 saw . Funny thing is I don't need one . Glad this holiday season is over and we can get back to normal . This cold rainy weather is driving me nuts . Got a few shows to go in Toronto .... boat show and a couple of sportsman shows . Kinda breaks things up . Our weather is like yours . Rain and a bit of snow . Snows gone in a few days . Thankful for that . Don't know how you can keep yourself so busy . Right now I don't want to do anything . Not even wanting going to the grocery store . Need a few sunny days to perk me up . Spend my time trolling on you tube videos . I'm bad . That was a great video with the cross bow . Was happy to see that you were able to use the old pair of chaps . Many people still don't wear chaps . I guess they like playing Russian Roulette .
@G0lfFish
@G0lfFish 4 года назад
I've had a Farm Boss for a number of years. No more wood than I cut, I'm absolutely pleased with it. Also have a 180 that I use for
@wthomas5697
@wthomas5697 5 месяцев назад
Do you have a 270? Did it come with a 20" bar?
@brianrizzi6321
@brianrizzi6321 4 года назад
I think that weight difference is the main difference for me and my back. Next I think a faster saw is exponentially more fun. All the little things are hard to put a price on but also make cutting wood more enjoyable. I’d go with the 261 not for the money but for the enjoyment factor.
@johnpark3153
@johnpark3153 3 года назад
The 261 is a pound and a half lighter and has more power. For me, that made it a a no-brainer. I'm pretty good at no-brainers. I got the 20-inch bar. And when I found out they had a C-M saw where you didn't have to adjust the screws anymore, well, yeah, to me it was worth the extra money not to have to adjust those screws. I've been very happy with my saw.
@DrakeMiester
@DrakeMiester 4 года назад
That 1/2 hp made a little difference and at the end of the day the lighter weight of the 261 would as well,great info Mike,thanks for sharing.
@msaul37
@msaul37 4 года назад
after a ton of research, I decided on a 271 2 years ago. I had tried an old 029, and it was just too much beast for me. I've felled at least 30 trees with it, and cut them up a bit. if I had some more spending money, I probably would've went with a 261 just for the weight of it, but i'm happy with my 271.
@toddtuohey4060
@toddtuohey4060 Год назад
Good video. I just bought a year old 261 yesterday, and it starts WAY easier than my old Poulan ( I know..I know)...and, you can feel a drastic difference in the extra 10cc immediately. Well built saw, cant wait to give it a test.
@hk93shooter
@hk93shooter 2 года назад
i just got a used 261 for $350. bar and chain are well used, but the power head looks nice. that difference with the mag case is well worth the money in my opinion. somewhere for the heat to go when your bar is buried. thank for the video. a lot of first time buyers don't realize the differences, they make them look the same on purpose.
@ronwood7040
@ronwood7040 4 года назад
Hey Mike go down to Levi's house and gather up those pine trees that you piled up there. Those will make nice lumber. Ron
@davediesel90
@davediesel90 4 года назад
I started my stihl ownership with a ms 390, great saw. I had another pos saw lying about that was constantly giving troubles and got rid of it for a dinky ms171, I love it. Last but not least a 461, what an animal
@GPOutdoors
@GPOutdoors 3 года назад
Hands down I agree Mike. Definitely, the 261 is worth the extra $$ . Thanks for the comparison. Very helpful. Cheers!
@thomasdesmond2248
@thomasdesmond2248 4 года назад
That slight difference in speed could be because of break in. Will need to see a comparison after they are both broke in. God bless
@johnsuch5914
@johnsuch5914 4 года назад
Hey Morgan's !!!! You KNOW I love my MS 261 :) Thank you SO much Be safe out there and God Bless
@markboettcher9443
@markboettcher9443 4 года назад
Back in '62 my dad planted red pine at the suggestion of the DNR here in WI. The boy scouts came and did the planting many are only 4 feet apart. We had 3 sections of them, one of which we clear cut over 10 years ago and another was thinned at the same time. Some have gotten decent size but not for the 50+ years they have taken up space. In the early 90's dad cut out a few that I used for rafters in my then new wood shed. I didn't know any better so I used them as is. They have been peeling themselves ever since and I doubt they will ever quit. It is a mess! In spite of their varying size I managed to get the roof mostly straight. I never heard of a construction use for them officially but mine have held up fine as round rafters.
@Jay78801
@Jay78801 4 года назад
271 Plastic case is just a housing the engine is bolted into it. Crank case and cylinder are one piece. Ms261 case is the crankcase and the cylinder is removable. 261 also has better vibrations damping
@micdiva
@micdiva 4 года назад
Plus felling sights adjustable oiler. Its all around a better saw. If youre a homeowner 271 or 291 great saws but theyre not everyday use saws imo
@micdiva
@micdiva 4 года назад
Plus im pretty sure theres a better clutch in them as well
@Zomsky
@Zomsky 4 года назад
Happy New year Morgans, I've had the Farm series MS291for about 5 years now, been utterly faultless, I use it as a second saw for smaller work in dry Aussie hardwood. My only criticism is that it doesn't quite oil as quickly as I'd like (although the Stihl synthetic chain/bar oil does help with this). As for the rain, we are happy to have some of it down here if you'd like to send it, might quench the fires!
@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm
@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm 4 года назад
Great comparison Mike, also sounds like some awesome plans for 2020! Also I’m sure you done a comparison on the different chains and I’ve just missed it but I was hoping you would throw the other back on to see the difference with the full chisel chain compared to the semi chisel just for fun :) thanks Mike, keep up the great work!
@bradleyfrederickson9536
@bradleyfrederickson9536 2 года назад
I use my 261 at -20F and it's flawless. Usually take 5 or 6 pulls at that temp but it always starts and runs for me. Coldest I've tested it at was -43F and even then it wanted to run but I sure didn't want anymore than to cold start it just to see how reliable it is in extreme cold and it's crazy.
@asphaltspecialties
@asphaltspecialties 7 месяцев назад
When using your saw in cold temp do you use the cold temp bar oil? I was at my STIHL dealer today and they didn’t seem like it was worth it. But at -20 maybe. What are your thoughts?
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 Год назад
I have a ms251 C-BE that has served me well for our wooded property. It has the spring assist starter which is so smooth. Just a like pull as it loads up the spring and then it snaps over. Also has a pretty easy to use no-tool bar tensioner that works well. I have no complaints with that saw. The 46cc does just about everything I have needed.
@MyTechWebTV
@MyTechWebTV 4 года назад
I am not an expert by any means, just a guy that has run a lot of different Stihl saws. I have always gravitated towards the Pro series. My most recent saw is a MS 362 after my Stihl 032 finally hit the end of its serviceable life. The reasons I stayed with the Pro series is 1) serviceability, 2) greater power to weight ratio, 3) the Pro series seems to rev more quickly and bog down less, especially when running a longer bar and 4) I like the metal vs plastic parts. Oh and so far I am loving the m-tronic carb though time will tell. These are just some of my reasons. The Farm Boss is a great saw. I have used several and all of the Stihl saws I have run have worked well. I am not a brand fan boy, I just need equipment that works and so far in 50 years I have never had a Stihl tool let me down.
@jburch1544
@jburch1544 4 года назад
Used 025 ,farm boss 271 just bought a 261 a few month's ago. First thing really liked was the weight reduction. Second, noticed much less vibration with 261. Maybe because a brand new saw opposed to older used saws but noticeable to me.
@TheGoodguy68
@TheGoodguy68 4 года назад
Love my 261 but it lost spark last weekend so I just dropped it off at the dealer to see what happened. Picked up a 271 to have around as a spare.
@markbaxendell7165
@markbaxendell7165 4 года назад
Hi Mike. I am currently running a MS290 with an old 029 as a back up. Both have 18 inch. bars. We heat our house with wood and have to buy logs. I am currently cutting up the logs from the second tri axle log truck. I have been very happy with the MS290. Thanks for the comparison on the 2 saws.
@karlsoffthegrid1378
@karlsoffthegrid1378 4 года назад
Love the test it was very insightful!! Last week I tested the MS 391 and let me tell you, Stihl is putting out some great power saws!!! Keep up the great vidios
@monkeymangonewild
@monkeymangonewild 3 года назад
I bought a 391 and it was super boggy, did you have this problem, I took it back and got a 362 and it’s an absolute monster in comparison.
@karlsoffthegrid1378
@karlsoffthegrid1378 3 года назад
@@monkeymangonewild it’s all in the set up. When the store gets the saw that you have purchased they are supposed to set it up for you. If you have the right guy set it up they worked like a charm. I’ve had mine for a year now and I have cut down 50 to 75 trees and it works awesome. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience
@bigbigby4657
@bigbigby4657 4 года назад
On another note, watching the background of PA as your driving, love how y'all are building to the lay of the land keeping the chracter of the land and sceneries intact. Down here they'll spend thousands of $$ up front before the foundation is poured in "leveling the lot"... Most all 80% of housing is leveled lot built and all the character of the land is lost. Most places just look plain & the same in lay of the land... I really like how PA builds!!❤👍
@mrtime1945
@mrtime1945 4 года назад
Nice demo if I was still working would use the farm boss just because I like the name. Great plans on the new building doesn't sound like a" she shed". Glad your using some of the wood from your property saves some money Good luck with the plans
@kaceesavage
@kaceesavage 4 года назад
I have a 261 and love it! I’ve been seeing 271s on FB and Craigslist for pretty cheap and have been considering one as another back up. Thanks for the video!
@kennethstephens8046
@kennethstephens8046 4 года назад
Kacee Savage look for a 291, same exact saw just a little more displacement and power compared to the 271. Power is closer to a 261. The extra displacement of the 291 makes up the extra difference in porting in the pro 261
@danielsmith8659
@danielsmith8659 4 года назад
Kenneth Stephens the 291 is still weaker than the 261. I own one. Not to mention it’s 2lbs heavier than the 261. And it’s about 100 bucks less than a 261. If I was stihl I wouldn’t make a 251 a 271 and a 291 in the same series with little to no difference in performance. If you are thinking of getting any of those 3 saws save yourself the headache and either get a professional 261 or step up in the homeowner saw and buy the 391. For 1 more lb it’s almost 10cc bigger. It’s the largest engine in that chassis you can get. And you can feel the difference ..... don’t buy a 311 either ..... why would you same weight as the 391 only weaker .
@ThatcherKSA
@ThatcherKSA 3 года назад
I have a 271, its a good saw, plenty of power to drive a full bar cut. No issues with it, probably 25 tanks of gas so far. Real light for smaller trees, but if your cutting a big log you might wanna pull out something with some bigger balls.
@Timijim
@Timijim 3 года назад
@@kennethstephens8046 i have a 261, my dad has a 291. We both hate the 291. The non adjustable oiler isn’t adequate in the colder months, and its heavier, bulkier, and less powerful. If you’re looking for a complimentary saw to a 261, get a 60 or 70cc pro saw, with a 20-24 in bar, and keep a 16” bar on the 261.
@kennethstephens8046
@kennethstephens8046 3 года назад
@@Timijim the guy was talking about buying a 271. I simply replied that the 291 was a better buy if he stuck with a homeowner saw. I think everyone should own a husky 372xp. But tons of guys are gonna buy the homeowner saw. I also own a 261cm and I love it. Great saw. But if I hadn’t got a good deal on it I’d have gotten a husky 550xp
@camassey7
@camassey7 4 года назад
Had a 271 and I caught on fire. Got a 261 to replace it and its been amazing. Starts great with the electronics.
@jonathanwymore9690
@jonathanwymore9690 4 года назад
I have a 261 as well as 4 other Stihl Pro saws and it's the best one I own. Power to Weight is awesome. Just a pure workhorse.
@TKCL
@TKCL 4 года назад
I think the pro series is definitely worth it, my ms260 pro is still running strong after about 18 years.
@scssarge4409
@scssarge4409 4 года назад
Mike; what I understand the differences are only in the type of bearings used in the main crank and piston quality as well plastics used to metal case of which need to dismantle to see the differences?! serial numbers have changed with the older saw of pro to farm boss. pro used to be even numbered to non pro were uneven numbered so have changed since last used the saws, like say as a number (260 pro to 261 farm boss). ask your dealer about these details? . Have you tried the huspvarna series saws as you will see finer barrs (less chips), good quality motors and light to handle. If I were to choose a saw now nearly would bye a Husky to a stihl because stihl has dropped their quality to their older series which were true pro saws. I think you will understand where I am coming from when we were saw-millers. Jonsered pro saws were a good saw to use as a all rounder series. When I was in saw-milling new all fine details but since away for a number of years have lost contact of pro series saws to all brands used though still have expertise of the fine details of saw management as stripped many saw in my day and saw the quality changes made to Stihl saws. would hate to strip a saw today as they are only made for throwaway society.
@jasone9
@jasone9 4 года назад
My take on it would be for a guy like myself who isnt running a firewood operation, just cutting for own use. the 271 farm boss is going to be just fine, put the extra 200.00 in the Mason jar to put towards the fuel Injected saw that will be in my sights when I wear this one out.
@charleypearson2314
@charleypearson2314 4 года назад
Always love your vids, but this was really informative and useful! Thank you and hope 2020 is a great year for the Morgans.
@adambauman8044
@adambauman8044 4 года назад
I just got the 261cm. I've cut about 8 cords of wood with it. Honestly I cant tell a difference in power or cutting speed between this saw and my 90s model 029 with exhaust mod. It also takes the same number of pills to start. 3-5 when cold. Not a really fair comparison because I'm using the green semichisel chain that came with the 261 and my 029 has a full chisel on it but it's also a 3/8 where the 261 has a .325 I guess all my blabbing here is to say that even if you buy an old stihl saw that still runs good you will have nearly as good of a saw as a brand new one. Yeah my old saw weighs 2 pounds more but even that isn't a huge deal
@mjohnsongreen
@mjohnsongreen Год назад
Another advantage the 261 has is an over the rim sprocket. It is easier and cheaper to change then a whole clutch drum. It is also interchangeable between ,325 and 3/8 sprocket. I am running a 3/8 full chisel full skip chain on a 20' bar on my 261 and it is a ripping beast. Granted I live in Utah where the majority of our wood is soft woods. It is a great saw and well worth the extra money.
@BigDmike24
@BigDmike24 3 года назад
I got the Farm Boss. I use a saw 3+4 times a year so I'm good.
@python3574
@python3574 4 года назад
Whew....you better get a JUMP on it.....there's only 51 weeks left in 2020! ....And in the immortal words of Clint Black in one of the best country songs ever written....."There's no time to kill". As far as the Farm Boss 271 (20" bar), I have had one for about 3 years and I really liked it at first, but then got to the point I just wanted "a little more power" as it always seemed to not want to go as fast as I was wanting to go. However, my 362 does, and it just seems like it's the right amount of power to keep me not wanting more. So, I backed the bar on the 271 down to 16" and now use it on smaller trees and smaller firewood and am satisfied with it in that role. The captive bar nuts would be nice on it, though, as I lost 2 of them early on simply thru vibration, but now keep them regularly checked.
@OldVermontGuy
@OldVermontGuy 4 года назад
Good morning from No. VT - we have had pretty much the same weather pattern as you so far this year. Way too much warm weather. Today is high 20's and we had about 3 or so inches of snow overnight. Starting to look like Vermont should the first week of January. Thanks for the Stihl comparison, useful timing for me. Thinking about a new saw for the lake camp, so understanding the differences from a practical perspective is very useful for me. Your priorities align really well with my thinking so it is more useful to me than reading spec sheets. Thanks for doing the video.
@ghadrackpotato960
@ghadrackpotato960 4 года назад
Nice video, thanks. I bought a Stihl Farm Boss after we got hit with a Tornado about 7 years ago and had 8 trees down around the house (thank God not on it), I used it this morning on a down tree in the yard after storms yesterday. It's been a reliable good machine for the price and for someone who only has to use it when nature calls, I have had nothing but good luck with mine.
@MOzarkMike
@MOzarkMike 4 года назад
If you put 400 hours a year on the saw, the price diff is .50 an hour. If you put 25 hrs on it it’s an $8 difference. Choose the farm saw unless you do enough to need the robustness and features.
@JustMe-999a
@JustMe-999a 4 года назад
If you only use it for one year.......
@stevenmiddagh6265
@stevenmiddagh6265 4 года назад
@Reel-Lentless, I've had both for years. It depends on how u take care of them.
@kennethstephens8046
@kennethstephens8046 4 года назад
Honestly I don’t see too much of the difference. I have a 029 super dated at 1994. It’s due for a rebuild now and has been rode hard but taken care of since new (my grandfather bought it new and I got it 10 years ago). I also climb for a tree service and own a ms200t and a husky 372xp that have been great saws. But my 029 super has been used just as hard and has been just as reliable as the pro saws
@bortonfamilyfarms6094
@bortonfamilyfarms6094 3 года назад
@Reel-Lentless my brother has a 30 year old saw he paid $100 for. Don’t think your longevity argument holds up
@TheKeenMechanic
@TheKeenMechanic 4 года назад
If I can add one more advantage to the list the 261 has a stainless steel exhaust vs the normal steel exhaust on the 271 which doesn't lookn great when the paint peels of and starts to rust. I have MS261 and is my favourite saw. I have had 171, 211, 230, 251 x2, 271, 291. I agree that there is no need for the de-compression valve on this size of engine but as I don't use it all day long, a forestry guy would be best to give his opinion. Thanks
@SlimmerNine
@SlimmerNine 3 года назад
Great video! Like the power to weight ratio comparison. Before watching this video bought a farm boss since it was cheaper. I go thru chains like crazy.
@toadamine
@toadamine 3 года назад
I'll be honest, id totally love getting a stihl as a gift, and would even buy a used one if it were super cheap and worked well on the "test drive"... id never again buy another stihl, new... been down that road a couple times... one of the string trimmers still runs, sorta, clutch is locked up and now direct drive, was like that since it was about a year old, hard to start, always was .. I have a ten year old Husky saw that runs perfect and starts on the second or third pull even after sitting in storage for a couple years... just checked the piston and cylinder and they look brand new still... thing still runs perfect, zero issues...
@rogerdickinson920
@rogerdickinson920 4 года назад
I had to get certified on chainsaws last year event though I have years of experience. This for Wildland firefighting. Anyway the instructor had a couple of Huskies and a couple of Stihls. The Stihls were the pro Series with compression release. The Huskies didn't have that feature and were a huge PITA to start. The Stihls no problem. Also the new Stihls have a wrap around handle but at lates check the wrap around handle model doesn't fit into a plastic case. This was last June ish.My old saw from decades ago was a o41 Farm boss. A solid saw but heavier and no chain brake or compression release.The compression release releases when the saw starts. I'd get one if it could be justified but then its all the other stuff to go with it, axe, chainsaw pants, fuel/oil container, files, hardhat/faceshield, ear gear, yada, yada, yada.Also Stihl has a promotion on at the moment at least here in Western Canadia.Best to all in 2020.
@stevemartinez6757
@stevemartinez6757 4 года назад
I've had an MS-271 for almost 2 years now. You are right, for occasional use and cutting down trees for firewood it does just fine. I use mine to cut down/cut up mostly oak and hickory trees on 35 acres. Nothing of any real quantity, probably 2 or 3 cords of wood per year.
@gregc1331
@gregc1331 2 года назад
Since I'm cutting about only about 1/4 cord (2x a year to add up to 1/2 cord) , the MS 271 looks right for me. Your review helped me affirm that decision. Thanks
@roncorbin1500
@roncorbin1500 4 года назад
Hi Mike, I have a MS 360 PRO Not sure if they still make this one any more, but has served me well our they years. Due to health reasons cant run saw any more but enjoy watching you do all the things I used to enjoy doing!
@scotthendricks6652
@scotthendricks6652 4 года назад
I bought a 271 today and I couldn't be happier. Great video. Keep up the great work !
@allendoss950
@allendoss950 4 года назад
If you plan on cutting lots of pine, you will need to use some type of lubercant to keep as much of the pine sap off your equipment. It will clog everything up.
@PencilProper
@PencilProper 2 года назад
I have used a 271 for about 20 hours and it is a really good saw. Just bought myself a 362, really keen to get that one ripping into timber!
@PatrickCPalmer
@PatrickCPalmer 4 года назад
Always good to see a first hand comparison by an experienced user. I personally am happy with my battery operated saws as I just do light trimming and no firewood processing. Thanks for the demo. Hey Hunter! 👴🏻👍🏻
@willieboy3011
@willieboy3011 3 года назад
Good review. I have a 461, and I have cut up 2 large Red Oaks, both over 100 yrs old. It is a beast, but I am older and will be getting a smaller one for use when I can. Also, it is always good to have an extra saw available, just in case you get in a bind. I have lost so many nuts, so I am glad to hear about the captive nuts.
@rash0401
@rash0401 4 года назад
Excellent video mike !!! I am in the market to upgrade from my ms251 wood boss . Can’t go wrong with a STIHL. Curious your thoughts on wood/ logs like in this video , was 18 inch bar long enough or would you prefer to go up to a 20 ? Thanks again !
@lennywallace540
@lennywallace540 Год назад
Also, the pro series crankcase cans be serviced/taken apart, you can see the gasket in the vertical middle. I also have the 261 WITH the adjustable carb, I did NOT want the C model with the M-Tronic computer chip. I like to be able to work and tune my equipment.
@josephm.winkel1336
@josephm.winkel1336 4 года назад
Thanks for the comparisons. Always helpful. Question on the log splitting pile you have built up. Is it okay to leave it piled up or better stacked? I had a big Ash tree in my backyard taken down, and I’m trying to get it all cut up and stacked. I was a little afraid to just leave it on the ground and have it rot. Thanks for your videos I’m leaning.
@mikeadams2339
@mikeadams2339 4 года назад
Ash doe's season quicker.think if you get it stacked by spring you won't have any problems. I like to mix it with oak. Does not have the same Btu but close.just more ash to take out after burn.
@2muchtime26
@2muchtime26 4 года назад
I bought the farm boss about a month ago and added the more aggressive chain to it and it cuts very quickly... thus far I've put about 6 tanks of gas though it and id have to say that I wish it had a decompression valve on it because after you shut it off for maybe longer than 5 minutes it's very hard to get started again if using the same day... if you don't pick it up again until the next day it will crank right back up with maybe 3 pulls . I believe this is a vapor lock issue that a decompression valve would greatly help with.
@looloo6322
@looloo6322 6 месяцев назад
Years back when I had my farm and even before that when I logged, I ran a Homelite 750, an 090, a 075, 041 Then a husky 394. That was years back all big powerful saws. When I was looking for a new Stihl last month I chose the MS271, price was a big factor. I didn't need a "bullet proof" saw to cut a couple of cords of fire wood a year. I'm happy with my choice. $500 vs $800 for basically the same results.
@matthewsims359
@matthewsims359 4 года назад
The weather here in ky has been miserable for the last few days. So i did take a day and clean the shop. Just like you, think about the shop, laugh, and say yea, i got that done. I think its 75 days til spring, cant wait. Say hey to the family and yall HAVE A DAY 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@generaldistrust
@generaldistrust 4 года назад
Got the MS291C-BEQ, has the same chassis as the MS271, just 5cc more.. Still, I wonder if I had an MS261, if the MS291's Easy-2-Start mechanism & magneto-fan can be switched and put on the MS261 I have this feeling.. Maybe 'coz I read sth about possible alternations between these..
@thomasdesmond2248
@thomasdesmond2248 4 года назад
Levi I bought you a gift son. But first I have to try it out. Every father in the world. Lol God bless
@edwardsorg6142
@edwardsorg6142 4 года назад
Years ago bought a Sawzall for Mother's Day.
@barryespeseth7355
@barryespeseth7355 4 года назад
I have a 10 yr old 260C and it has never let me down on cutting firewood. Great compare video.
@PetersOutdoors
@PetersOutdoors 4 года назад
Nice saw comparison. I really enjoyed that! Thank you for sharing, be safe!
@healyfamily4
@healyfamily4 4 года назад
Thanks for the comparison. I’m looking for a little more power than my 291, but that saw has been and is a great saw for my needs. The more I learn the better educated I’ll be for when or if I buy another powersaw. Thanks
@cboutdoorfun9955
@cboutdoorfun9955 4 года назад
Richard Healy I believe a 261 is actually power wise equivalent to your 291. I run my 261 next to my dads 290 often. Biggest difference is weight and sound.
@healyfamily4
@healyfamily4 4 года назад
Corey Brickner thanks!
@rickcassell9613
@rickcassell9613 4 года назад
They make great saws , I have a 026 from 1996 . Still running strong I did pick up a new 271 last year runs great . Great saws !! 👍
@petercouckuyt7962
@petercouckuyt7962 3 года назад
Rick Cassell 3
@cumminstbd05
@cumminstbd05 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing! I've been curious how that pro series saw stacks up to the MS271. I have an MS290, which is a little older but it's my primary go to for firewood. Are the air cleaners different between these two saws? Just wondering because that's my only complaint with my MS290 is the air cleaner setup. Can't wait to see you cutting some softwoods on the saw mill. I'm curious about the building plans for your new building. Does it include a pool for Melissa? Have a day and tell Hunter I said Hello!
@tommyordoyne7461
@tommyordoyne7461 4 года назад
Nice info. Can't wait to see the building go up. Have a productive day.
@matthewheld8577
@matthewheld8577 4 года назад
Did you give the 271 the break in treatment they recommend if the pro saws? Ie holding back on max throttle until so many tank for breakin before tweeting for max rpm?
@paulmusegades8760
@paulmusegades8760 3 года назад
I have a MS261 and at times adjust the bar oil screw depending on how hard the saw is working, does the 271 also have an adjustable oiler?
@Gwalker0220
@Gwalker0220 4 года назад
I think the price difference is well worth it just knowing you bought a saw that will last for many many years and is easier to service. The pro saw is easier to change out a piston or clutch.. Mike there is a tiny little saw out by stihl that is slimy amazing. Best power to weight ration of any saw they make. Cant remember the model but I was about to get one.. I have to work slow and the weight gets to me.. But then after gathering up all my saws I had laying around one fired right up, stays idling when sat down and just runs perfect. Husqvarna 33... The little guy cuts better then my bigger saws so I've been using it... I never got the stihl... But remember all I cut is spruce and birch... A little cotton wood and nothing very big... No hard wood here in AK...
@brianworley7705
@brianworley7705 4 года назад
Isn't there also a difference in the chain guides inside the cover? Years ago I compared pro to standard and the guide was replacable on the pro but not the other as I recall. At the end of a full day of cutting as a less than weekend warrior, I would pick the lighter saw any day if I could afford it. As I get older, the arms appreciate it more and more.
@jeffhartmann2469
@jeffhartmann2469 4 года назад
SOUTHERN INDIANA HERE (REPORTING LIVE FROM San Diego-GOING BACK TO INDIANA TOMORROW MONDAY 1/6/20). Mike..I just bought a Stihl Farm Boss a few weeks ago. Haven’t even used it yet but plan to when I get home. Going to cut up a couple downed trees at my farm. Can’t wait. I’m leaving perfect weather in San Diego while in Mt Vernon In, I can expect a little snow. Call me crazy, but I’m ready for cold weather.
@mbetts3679
@mbetts3679 4 года назад
Hi , I'm up north from Montreal, I have the MS 271 It is the most reliable saw in my collection ! I have a a Mcculloch Pro Mac 700 (70 cc) starts with only 3 pulls ! paid $400 for it , probably from the late 70's it has a button you press to oil the chain manually! always looking for cool saw's to add in my garage ! Thanks for the video
@craigsudman4556
@craigsudman4556 4 года назад
Nice video Mike. Hope we get to see you getting that red oak, and the pines as well. Thumbs up.
@jeffreylane6098
@jeffreylane6098 4 года назад
Mike Thanks for the awesome reviews.... great information for those considering either chainsaw! 👍
@oliverclaffey5186
@oliverclaffey5186 3 года назад
Had sprocket problems with 261’s never had a bit of trouble with 271. Both same age and use, don’t knock the 271 good little saw.
@hpw59
@hpw59 4 года назад
Really look forward to your shop build....good luck
@jacquespapillon1154
@jacquespapillon1154 4 года назад
Hello Mike, I own a ms261 for more than 2 years and no other saw will replace this ms261 except when I getting tired and I wish to continue for a little time clearing small trees branches or make small trails I 'm using the ms170 with a 16 inches bar . So in your vids I'm happy to see you with your ms261, you cut more hardwood than me and you appreciate that saw so imagine me in soft wood? Tyrrs and thank Mike.
@edwindude9893
@edwindude9893 4 года назад
I spent last summer working in Norway logging with my 261. Dudes said it’d die from the hard graft. They had 462’s. I ran an 18” bar and it made it through fine.
@scotduckrow8524
@scotduckrow8524 4 года назад
Plane those cookies and sell them as Morgan Cookie Trays!
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