673 HP FENDT 1167 Tractor Working on Fall Tillage 

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AGCO builds a variety of tractors and fertilizer application machines in Jackson.

It should 600+ horse power and 9 shanks

I’m not all that impressed. Maximum field weight is still 10,000 pounds plus UNDER what it should be for that horsepower rating.

It’s always great to ride along with Billy. I have a ride along with Matt in soybeans on the way.

I was surprised when he turned the corner on the outside perimeter pass. It is a handy feature.

Very cool. OXNARD is where Allis-Chalmers built their heavy duty tillage. Wilcox builds very impressive tillage tools. Both the PTA 325 and 335HD are great 4wds.

I bet a PTA would make an excellent ripper tractor! That’s something I’d like to see.

@@MFKR696 Agco has basically dropped the Challenger brand and the tractors are going to be Branded Fendt from now on. Massey Ferguson does nothing by itself. They are the same as Challenger, Fendt and Valtra. In the smaller tractors. Still run the same engines. Yes, Agco bought Fendt in 1997. They bought Massey Ferguson in 1994. Aquired Challenger and Valtra in 2002. Everything Agco is basically the same. Just change the colors and names.

@@MFKR696 I know all of that. I worded wrong is all.

@@MFKR696 That's your opinion. They farm 20,000 acres. I think they would know good equipment.

@@MFKR696 Really......it's a comment on a farming video. It's NOT life and death.

@@MFKR696 Do you feel better now? Your obviously not understanding that I TRULY don't care.

Same here in south central PA and maryland

@@michaeldouglas1243 oh ok 👍

@@Steiger550 Fendt is a good looking tractor

It's a Agco tractor. The Challenger and Fendt are the exact same tractors. Agco is phasing out the Challenger brand. It's only Fendt in name and color.

@@farmerjohnson8121 we get it farmer Johnson we get it lol

@@farmerjohnson8121 you’re kind of getting it backwards but yeah. They painted a few Fendts in Challenger colors until they realized that no one wanted the Challenger colors on their new Fendt.

@@strangefruit8776 no they didn't lol. They make both tractors together in the same building. The two track tractors are built in Minnesota. The wheeled version is built in Germany. Agco is phasing the Challenger brand out. That is why they are going to Fendt brand. I've been in the plant in Minnesota. And if you would watch Millennial Farmers tour of the Agco plant in Minnesota you would understand. Plus Brian Brown on RU-vid runs Agco equipment. He explains how both tractors are exactly the same.

@@farmerjohnson8121 Agco can’t focus on a flagship brand to save their life and it may really hurt them one day

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It reduces the headland pass to 3 passes down from 8. It gets right to the edge. When they seed wheat and soybeans they make 3 60ft passes on the headlands. This 3pt gets the tractor to the edge leaving three 22ft passes to work out the edges.

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The 915 mounted the 1167 is an 11 shank model. They found it was difficult to move on the road become it does not fold. Deere also makes a 13 shank model. The 9, 11 and 13 do not fold so you need lots of room on the road for transport. The farm has found 9 to be as wide as they want to go in transport. The 9 shank in red clay puts this 1167 and the three 9RX 640s to work.

@@bigtractorpowerA folding ripper would be the answer for roading.

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2 Track can turn on a dime but leaves those ruts. A 4 Track does a lot better job with the ruts but won’t turn as well.

Billy is always a great guy to talk farming with. Lots of knowledge and history to learn.

The farm has found good support with John Deere. They trade each year so it makes it easier to trade green. It is a family farm so it is not just up to one person on the line up. Billy has always looked around at machines he likes best beyond color to personally operate. In the years I have known the farm Billy has run for NH3, air drill seeding and tillage a Ford 1156 on triples, an STX450 Quadtrac, 9620T and then an MT865B, MT875B, three MT875Cs and two MT875Es. He found each of these tractors had good advantages. The farm was not John Deere until tbe mid-1980s. John Deere 8850s we’re their first green machines. Their first 4wd was an AC 7580 and they relied on a 7060 and 7080. The AC row crops were replaced by a WFE 2-155 and 2-180. Then everything went green. In the early 1970’s they used IH 1066 tractors. I think the first John Deere on the farm was a Billy’s first 24 row corn planter was a green Kinze in the early 80’s he pulled with an open station 4320. The G and 4320 are still on the farm.

@@bigtractorpower Thanks for all that. Very interesting.

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All filmed. I will have a series out this winter showing the seasons.

It’s always good to visit with Billy. He is in the field every day each season. The farm has always based their equipment choice on a good relationship with their local dealer. For many years the farm was all Allis-Chalmers until AC went under. 45 years ago the primary tractors on the farm were a AC 7580, 7080 and 7060. For a short time they had a WHITE 2-180 and 2-155 tractor. Forty years ago the local John Deere dealer told the farm they would take care of them the way AC dealer had with parts and service and soon the farm had three John Deere 8850s. Billy is always looking for top performance tractors to run himself. In 1991 the farm made a deal to purchase two FORD 1156s and a 976. Billy liked the 1156 so much as the farm went to Deere 8960s, 8970s and 9400s one 1156 stayed. In 2001 the remaining 1156 was traded to a Case IH STX450 QUADTRAC. Billy was highly impressed by the QUADTRAC performance in wet fields. Then the trying to stay all Deere the STX450 was traded in 2003 for a 9620T. At that time row crop tractors and combines were traded each year and 4wds every three years. Today everything is traded each year other than Billys tractor which is still 3 years. Billy and everyone else on the farm were not impressed with the 9620Ts rough ride. In 2006 Billy traded to an MT865B, then an MT875B followed, then three traders to MT875Cs then two traded to MT875Es and now the 1167MT. Billy has liked the AGCO two track tractors. Smooth ride on a 120 inch setting. Over all it works best for the farm to be all Deere for the annual trade program. Each of the 15 primary tractors on farm average nearly 1,000 hours a year.

@@bigtractorpower man his fuel bill must be massive

@@piperdoug428 no doubt.

Why is that? They rip 16-18 inches deep on half their ground each year. The other half is disked and goes into wheat. I have followed this farm for 22 years. They run deep to lift the soil.

It’s cool until you add mud into the equation, then it becomes very, very ugly. Once you get these stuck far enough , the wheels spin inside the track and you’re in for a really fun time. Unfortunately, turns are great at doing that

Another farm I film at has subsoiled like this and then went strictly no till for ten years. They returned to sub soiling four years ago. They found a 15 bu per acre increase the first year they returned to sub soiling.

That’s $1,084,050 if all 11,000 is corn. I would say it’s worth it.

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The Fendt is using John Deere guidance. The farm has 15 tractors on tillage. 14 are John Deere including tractors from 640 to 210 Hp. The Fendt with Deere guidance talks with the entire tillage fleet. Is it common yes. I filmed at a John Deere farm this year that switched to Case IH 8250 combines. The red combines used Deere guidance to collect data and communicate with the green tractors.

@@bigtractorpower What product allows the JD Guidance to communicate with the Fendt? is it a GREEN FIT?

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He is turning tight. When he finishes a section he rips the heads lands which knocks out the burms.

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That and they just aren’t heavy enough. There’s a horsepower to weight formula that Steiger figured out in the 60s that is known to hold true and this tractor is well below

@@nellsonstout7001 I’m guessing it’s around 10Lbs/1 HP. That 1167 is like 50,000lbs on Mike Mitchell farm and he compares it to 620 Quads and 9620RX that are 60,000lbs +.

@@nellsonstout7001 it actually isnt a power problem. it surprises me that people STILL dont understand the difference between traction issue or power... the 1167 doesnt have the weight that it should have for a load as big as mike air drills to drag it uphill. there actually hasnt been a single time yet where the 1167 ran out of power...

@@crandonborth mike's 1167 is maxed out as much as Fendt offers from factory (doesnt mean he cant actually put on more tho). max front weight, max idler weights... which makes it 60150 lbs. P.S. realistically its more like 100 - 110 lbs / hp

@@Matt___B Yeah Lol I just realized I missed a zero. 😆 You mean a 600 Hp tractor is underweight at 6,000 Lbs. 🤣

The 915 on the 1167 is the 11. They took 2 shanks off because the 11 is a hassle to transport width wise.

@@bigtractorpower ahh I see, thank you for the reply.

Running 8 mph at 18 inches deep puts it to work. They used to run 11 shanks on it but it gets too wide to move down the road.

Yes it was a double crop soybean field now going to corn in March 2023.

Like they don't know what's best for their operation

No till farming was invented in 1962 in Christian County KY where this farm is located. They farm a field just up the road from the first no till field ever. This farm no till seeds 11,000 acres of second crop soybeans following wheat harvest. These 915 v rippers are low disturbance tillage. They break compaction while leaving surface residue undisturbed. In the spring the field looks like a no till field. They plant into the stubble on the surface with a deep root zone below.

@@bigtractorpower That is not what I would call no-till farming, when they pull a ripper in between crops. And to say that the 915 v rippers are low disturbance is an understatement. I’ve never seen a ripper that does not disturb soil structure or kill soil biology. Just saying. But I still enjoy your videos lol

@@wilsonfarms7320 the amount of traffic on these fields with 3 crops on them in two years requires breaking up the compaction. You can see planting in the spring in this video link. The surface of the field has lots of residue remaining ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eyqww33R8IY.html They are all no till going from wheat to soybeans ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NS3nI5KVL_U.html

Parts support matters man. They rip 11,000 acres. Also, the word is embarrassing.

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