6V53TT Silver Detroit Diesel first start (part1) 

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That's AWESOME Don. I have a question for you if you don't mind?. 1) why are some engines Green and some Silver?. 2) being those are 2 stroke, with a bus/ coach RV application say an older GM with regular maintenance, Hwy driving, what sort of mileage can be expected from one. Recently I've been looking into a bus conversion for semi/ full retirement travel. I found a nice coach 4 speed manual with 56k since last rebuild, what sort of reliability are 2 stroke compared to 4 strokes?. Kind regards Eric Dee

@@thevacuumtubejunky9774 well Detroit was bought by Roger Penske so maybe when he took over that might be why . For reliability well 2 strokes have less moving parts so i would think in a diesel it doesn't make a difference! Not like a gas engine

@@clinteastwood9115 : Thank you for your reply Mr. Cooper, that makes perfect sense. I heard that the four strokes produce better and torque at lower rpm's which may be better in the long run but, yet I understand that the Detroit is a brute when it comes to diesel engines. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards, Eric Dee.

well thank you sir

@Richard Skipper 6v53 = 6cyl @ 53ci each cyl. = 318 ci

Damian DeLapp no flywheel that’s why it doesn’t want to idle

Has a flywheel, need it for the starter

I’m wrong it ain’t starting w no flywheel I meant clutch assy, parasitic drag from accessories etc. but yeh gotta have a flywheel

the problem with that is you need to keep them wound tight all the time. the have no power at lower RPM's so you are on the floor with them all the time. double if not more then other diesels. hence the whole screaming jimmy,

This due to it being a totally mechanical engine... Electronics get in the way of responsiveness

I love the Detroit but to be fair a 400 Cummins is called that because it has 400hp an extra 75hp of the Detroit is very noticeable when talking about diesels because the torque also increases.

i had the same in new zealand in the early 80's with a 14 speed spicer. loved that truck.

@@terryrack2534 Classic NZ 8V92TA trucking ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g-BnwyBK5Hk.html

@@mtl-ss1538 awesome

@M Ishaq the Allison transmission we ran used 10.40. We ran 40 grade in engine as well. 30-40 in summer and 15-40 summer. God bless the 2 stroke.

With no load, they didn’t generate much heat.

@@billmoran3812 'much'!

It would take roughly 15 minutes to get it up to temp doing that

Love that about the ole 2 stroke Detroits on cold starts they hunt for idle like a top fuel car

the modern diesels only wish they had a lope tune like that

or leaking oil.

and that one *REALLY* likes to hunt with that itty-bitty flywheel! Makes it tough to set the anti-surge screw with that little mass to carry it through.😉

The hunt is from a poor tune. And they only leak oil if assembled by a knuckle dragger. And the only silver detroit from the factory was a 92 series.

Jacob Funk Thanks!

My question is where do we find the turbos these days ... I have two of these engines and all four turbos are done

@@BigJohnBatesuse gm-8 turbos from a 6.5 detroit i had one on my 6.2 and it delivered 15psi of boost on the stock fueling it got up and WENT!! 😂

Flywheel weight 40 lbs on the 6v53T engine

?? What are you even talking about? It may be silver in color, but it's still a sleeved cast iron block and heads (plus the block was filled with water when they started it)

Thank you!

@@MotormasterK100 sometimes even if you've got everything perfect you've got to give those baby girls a shot of ether they normally think it's yummy and they'll wake up and say howdy according to this Texas girl!!!!

MotormasterK100 what turbos did you use?

@@jeffdavis110 Silver 3-53 turbos. Eventually, depending on a few factors, that may change to a larger size (and a complimenting larger injector).

My twins (marine in a 45 ft sport fisher) are rated 400HP and 800 foot pounds of torque, pretty insane. I got the stock twin turbos rebuilt. Believe they are Garrett R8926100 turbos and this setup uses N9830 injectors

diesel mutt88 That was my thought, too.

Ehhhh.... could maybe be assembly lube if they broke it down.... but I know what your getting at

@@tjlovesrachel white smoke from a cold diesel engine is fuel that got hot enough to vaporize, but not hot enough to ignite.

jm15 yes thank you although I know this I was just trying to point a different avenue... but usually assembly lube burns blue like oil ... but I was just trying to go a different route

@@jmurphy1973 Wow turbo

Those are accessory pulleys.

MotormasterK100 Are they driven off the back of the super chargers?

***** camshaft driven

Cool

+blackericdenice The camshaft opens and closes exhaust valves. No intake valves like you would find on a 4 stroke, instead it has scavaging ports which are located at the bottom of each cylinder. The engine block is unique in it's construction having air galleys as well as water galleys. Very unique engine in it's design and operation

It has a set of Jakes on it

Its too heavy. A 3500 or 350 would suffice. Don't be fooled by its small size,(5.2 liters) it can easily outpull a 6.4 power stroke in terms of torque

David Vermillion

I had a 4-53 Detroit in a '73 Chevy C30 years and years ago. My uncle had this motor in a '68 Chevy truck. It's a ton of work doing the conversion but with 6BTs it doesn't make sense unless for nostalgia or to be unique.

@@theq4602 how heavy is it , a 5.9 liter Cummins is 1100lbs and it came in pickup trucks from the factory

@@josephfoster3819 I think fully dressed up they weigh about 1600lbs. There were aluminum and cast iron blocks made. 1600 is the cast iron block. I forgot about the aluminum's weight but I think its around 1100.

I built and dynoed these engines for Raytheon. Very cool little engines.

Yes the DV550 was one of International's better ideal (much like GM with the 5.7 Olds Diesel). The took the 549 gas engine and made a Diesel out of it. You'll notice it was not in production for very long.

RMC 1st MLG cheers

ThePaulv12 , it has the provisions for the aftercooler like the 92 silvers, but we don't have one on it currently. We may add it or run an intercooler style instead. Just depends on where the numbers are and what I ultimately install it in. Thanks!

It has water in it, just not any circulating. We wouldn't run it for long, and would use temp sensors to monitor various spots. The round part that says "Silver 53" is a breather. This block (to the best of my memory) has the provisions for an aftercooler. Like the larger brother series, the aftercooler goes below the blower on "top" of the airbox. Thanks for the interest!

The intercooler is under the blower. The round things on the valve covers are breathers. Needs buffer adjustment to smooth out the hunt at idle.

Roger Tycholiz , it had water in it. We kept checking the Temps in between starts too.

Well... you could look at a complicated system like the railroad locomotive detroits used, a gear driven turbo with an overrunning clutch. The 567, 645 and 710's all used that system. I personally have never seen one, so I don't know what all is involved with it. You're probably going to need more than an AC clutch to run that blower. Mercedes C32 ad E55's used an electric clutch on their AMG cars for their blowers, but if the motor was over 2500 rpm and you nailed it, the blower wouldn't engage because it would either fry the clutch, break the belt, or take the shaft off the end of the blower. They limited it to operate from a low dig. I don't know how much air a paxton or vortech supercharger moved at low speeds but it might be worth looking into.

Thanks man. This really helps.

Modern electric blower might push enough air to start it.

Yep just get you an adapter kit from Johnny Cash. He did it with a Cadillac.

Speaking of engines, how are you doing with your V12 Deutz castirondude​?

Steve Kluver safely high and dry but no action yet. I did score another one so I have two v12 and a v8, all 413 series

That's good to hear castirondude​. Where did you find the second one? I am in market, and hope to come across a good deal on a fix-er-upper, but no luck so far. Where should I be looking?

Steve Kluver Besides Craigslist the best places are commercial/industrial auction places like Network International, Ritchie Brothers, equipment trader, machinery trader ... If you're lucky nobody else shows up and you can get stuff cheap. I bought this second V12 for $200 that was a steal! It has the twin turbo's and even twin intercoolers.

Steve Kluver well. I have the V8 mounted to an Allison MT643 with a custom adapter. I have an adapter to mount the V12 to an Allison MD3060 but only for the flywheel. The machine shop I was working with lost interest and never made the bellhousing adapter. I need to find a new machinist... actually I was talking with someone who was interested a few months back. I just have a million things going on in life currently ..

Drive a 2015 Mustang GT with a manual and take it up pass 6500 rpm.

***** So..............

Bob Smith If u don't get that, u are a waste of my time.

***** No. The waste is running an engine past 6500 RPM in a street vehicle, Einstein! But....you go ahead & play roulette with your little toy, we know who will lose....YOU! You not u. Get some education before you spout off & look like a fool.

Bob Smith Dude the engine peak at 6500.