7.8k coach explains how to DESTROY the Midlane 95% of the time

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!!!!!RECOMMENDED TO WATCH AT 1.25X/1.5X SPEED AS NORMAL SPEED MIGHT BE TOO SLOW!!!!!
This video explains a crucial concept in the mid lane in order to slowly turn the advantage towards your favor. It explains the importance of building advantage from level 1-2 onwards in the first 4 waves by using creep aggro to ranged creep and punishing enemies as they move in to take the creep.
PS, do note that this is matchup dependent as well hence the title 95% of the time as an unfavorable matchup like Ember Spirit into Shadow Fiend would still require much more in depth laning skills, for instance trading only when Shadow Fiend's razes have been used on creeps etc..
Hope you guys will learn from this video, enjoy!
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@BalloonDota Год назад

PLEASE WATCH AT 1.25/1.5X SPEED

@kavin1814 Год назад

No need. :) You explained really well and speed is perfect too.

@kavin1814 Год назад

One of the main problem I face is have to focus on soooo many different things. Creeps low health, harassing, watch mini maps for ganks. I get anxiety. XD

@larasoftimpact 10 месяцев назад

no need, this is too good

@siratmohaiminulislam8677 5 месяцев назад

the tempo is perfect man! I have been playing it wrong for years! thank you

@MrAlex8963 5 месяцев назад

*assuming you're an experienced player*.

@rafaelcgpbbr1 Год назад

It's not easy to find such a good and analytical explanation. Thanks for sharing this!!

@Walloom Год назад

Oh my god this video is so well made, literally so much better than all other channels I've seen. so clear and well said.

@dotarampage3877 Год назад

As a 7.1 k mid laner . I sometimes go into autopilot mode . Thanks for making educational content that reinforces the important aspect of laning.

@reiokimura6519 Год назад

what do you mean autopilot mode? Is that good or bad?

@xnitron6739 11 месяцев назад

@@reiokimura6519It’s bad since you don’t think about match-up or timings; and end up losing lane and early game.

@xongaming4456 10 месяцев назад

@@xnitron6739 it's not always bad. Though you're playing based on instinct and muscle memory, there are instances where your experience as a player makes your instinct more reliable than overthinking a situation.

@ShamwowYeah 11 месяцев назад

i love that you show what to do on both sides its so good, so easy to understand with explanation+arrows

@quintonpaulin9826 Год назад

Commenting to help your channel. This is the real type of dota educational content that people want. Keep up the good work. I shall spread your channel around like the plague haha.

@vladdaniel8219 Год назад

1. Last hits 2. Denies 3. Creep aggro to ranged 4. Trade 5. Type ez mid in all chat to assert dominance

@yokisullivan8647 Год назад

cringe

@miuzix4006 Год назад

I'm not a mid player but watching this video will really help me a lot if my team got my roles and this is the one left. Thanks!

@leexingha 6 месяцев назад

another excellent thing to do as a midlaner: when opposing mid dies, u pull his creeps sideways to avoid contact with ur creeps. ur creeps will go to enemy tower & the whole batch dies with the enemy hero not getting any gold nor exp from that batch. if u watch pro games, u see this is one common tricks of theirs another is, no matter how good u r or ur tricks are, these are useless if u got counterpicked hard. if u won a badly counterpicked match-up, its either the enemy were bad mechanically or ur support is great. it doesnt mean becoz ur so great. some bad match-up at mid is salvaged through support's heavy creep camp stacking like when Storm got owned at mid im a hyperaggressive midlaner. i made my opponents most of the time as poor with networth comparing to pos5. they only managed to avoid such disaster becoz of other interfering factor like supports

@yeesiangtan6011 3 месяца назад

for sure this guys is teaching something way useful compared to other RU-vidr

@diogogarcia7970 Год назад

Love this format since I saw Henry doing it the first time many many years ago and he stop a long time ago, keep it up man thats good stuff here.

@KamoPabloHearsay 10 месяцев назад

As a 2.8k MMR and mostly mid player, this is very helpful to me to advance my MMR and say “EZ Mid” at the end of the game (regardless if win or lose). Keep posting situational lane match up. Will subscribe to you. More power mr. yellow

@Ayelzi 9 месяцев назад

2.8k mmr mid player? My food

@johnflorence2672 8 месяцев назад

if staying 2.8k I suggest trying another role, it may fit you better. Mid is the easiest lane to play and if you cant climb from there, perhaps youre better on another position.

@KamoPabloHearsay 8 месяцев назад

@@johnflorence2672 7k mmr now :) mostly mid safe and off

@winwinwin420 8 месяцев назад

you wlll be 2k all your life with your attitude ez

@henriquefantini8725 7 месяцев назад

Never found such great explanation. Great vid mate, keep doing it ✌🏼

@JasperXoR 8 месяцев назад

as well bellow MMR where this matters in my games, it's good to know the theory and put these into play. I do the aggro a lot, but I hadn't thought about the body blocking as much. Also I'm glad I'm justified in micro punishing opponent. I had thought from other videos that is better to Neve miss a single cs than it is to punish opponent and chase them off.

@BalloonDota 8 месяцев назад

Hi bro, what the other videos were probably trying to say is if there was a last hit vs a harass, 9/10 of the time you would probably want to take the last hit before harassing the opponent. This is however, very case-by-case basis because if taking that creep meant giving up a ton of damage through harass, then the harass would probably be more worth it. But if giving up a creep only meant little harass on the enemy, then the creep would be more worth it. The best scenario is always to secure creeps and hit the enemy hero with an AOE spell at the same time to maximize spell casting and CS efficiency at the same time. The other Midlane video I created recently will probably show this way better, so do watch that video to understand further.

@BalloonDota 8 месяцев назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bPn_0e7QX9c.htmlsi=ZdVfcbc2U0WzU3Yo Here is the video link.

@Psychomancer_2024 Год назад

I just got my first 15 minute radiance thanks to this video. Well done.

@johnflorence2672 8 месяцев назад

Its very good explanation, one thing that I miss, is that there is few players explaining side lanes, I find it very hard to master it, with 4 players dynamics, it would be cool such a cool guide for side lanes

@dota2vods715 Год назад

Nice, great vid. Would like to know more like what a mid player should do in early, mid and late. Aside from that, please tell us what's the best thing a mid laner should do if he lose mid. Thanks!

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hey, thanks for the feedback. My schedule right now does not allow me the time to release videos on a frequent basis but there are many videos which I have in mind that are bound to come sometime in the future. Look out for those, thanks!

@InmortalClass 10 месяцев назад

Thanks bro, I am also a content creator for RU-vid teaching Dota so I send you a hug, thanks for all your information.

@Onyx_Dripp Год назад

Im very new to dota and dont rlly understand the game/laning phase this is very helpful to me thanks for the video!

@Zarzar22 Год назад

Thanks man, some great tidbits in here that I hadnt quite figured out myself yet

@gamesandtech2347 Год назад

Thanks for doing man even though I have stopped playing dota still watched it to realise my mistakes🙌🙌

@finalform6667 Год назад

Great content, please make more of this. Do you stream?

@9det126 5 месяцев назад

Great content as always. RU-vid algorithm brought us back together again :) good to see you doing well mate.

@BalloonDota 5 месяцев назад

Thanks bro, been doing well. Glad the algorithm got to you!

@Pegla43 Год назад

Thanks for your time! This gonna make my Ember games better!

@brunoarevalo12 10 месяцев назад

Great video, friend, can you explain to me what program you use to create arrows above the video? I would appreciate it very much, success.

@BalloonDota 10 месяцев назад

This is EpicPen

@GustyforEminem 9 месяцев назад

This was very good, thank you!

@ennvy8 8 месяцев назад

Just saw this video, really appreciate the insight! Just a question, what about during melee vs melee matchups or ranged vs range? Is the objective still the same?

@BalloonDota 8 месяцев назад

Hi, laning objective is always the same. Get more resources than enemy, harass them by setting up favorable scenarios to punish using creep aggro, identify who's stronger and weaker and how to act accordingly.

@ennvy8 8 месяцев назад

@@BalloonDota Ohh i see, thank you for replying!

@lyl14ghost Год назад

i am bout to solo mid some one challenged me tonight. Now I am observing as much knowledge to get preped. Your vids are very awesome.

@jomaribondoc5980 Год назад

Amazing breakdown. You just gained a subscriber.

@1who4me Год назад

I don’t play mid but this video is great, well done explanation

@olehhryshchuk4189 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for this video. I find it very helpful.

@najibmurshed Год назад

can you do another video for melee vs melee and ranged vs ranged matchups?

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hi, I will be making a 1v1 series some time down the road where I will be looking for volunteers to teach them 1v1 and post these on the channel. Keep a lookout for that! :)

@diegofontenelle1162 Год назад

Please do this

@haroldrafael8528 Год назад

Pick me please 🥺

@Pegla43 Год назад

@@BalloonDota pick me please im around 1k mmr :D :D

@warlockCommitteeMeeting Год назад

Great video. I don't think you need to watch it at 1.25x speed. I think it is fine how it is.

@josegiliiescabal2484 10 месяцев назад

Nice this helps me understand laning better 👍🏻

@tookiyo1183 4 месяца назад

This explanation was great! In the case of playing tiny mid do you still want to creep aground to range and harass the enemy mid? Or just deny all creeps with the huge amount of damage?

@BalloonDota 4 месяца назад

Yes, creep aggro unless you have advantage to trade, meaning you want to hit the enemy hero.

@allenlee15 Год назад

this video help me bully noob pubs at 3k mmr bracket😂 what a great coach

@ezwindota Год назад

Thanks, I will try this tomorrow! Pls more Videos

@bugveyronFTW Месяц назад

I dont understand how pulling the creep agro onto the range creep benefits me. Because that always just means that my creeps then end up attacking the enemy range creep so the enemy gets the exact same 'benefit' that I get. It's mirrored. We just both end up with all our melee creeps attacking the enemy ranged creep

@UserMeme-jh1no 9 месяцев назад

Ty bro im missing parts of this knowledge thabks

@axel_person 11 месяцев назад

Great content bro!

@Imperious123 11 месяцев назад

Every time I do this without a spell hero to take the range, they always take mine out first. Should I tank the 3 melees to try to get the range or just sac it? Seems bad if I do that.

@Imperious123 11 месяцев назад

If I try to get the range the rest go into my tower

@BalloonDota 11 месяцев назад

Hello, the melee creeps will only hit you if you put yourself within aggro range of the creeps, specifically in front of them and issue an attack command on the enemy. Whether or not you are able to secure the creep depends on many more factors such as heroes, positioning to creeps, health etc

@BalloonDota 11 месяцев назад

@@Imperious123 you can get the range and still pull the melee creeps to you by aggroing them with issuing an attack command on the enemy hero

@dajair01 Год назад

what program were you using to write on top of the video? great video

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hello, thank you for the kind words. This software is called EpicPen

@akhmadkhoirulrizky7766 Год назад

thanks, need midlaner advice like early, mid, and late game please how to rotate and so on

@BalloonDota Год назад

Will work on this in the coming days, probably by weekend will release. Thanks for the recommendation!

@LxersUS Год назад

@@BalloonDota good shit, i'll waiting for that

@TheGreatChancellor 3 месяца назад

hey i hit a fleeing hero with a spell and tried to right click follow and attack and my hero started attacking neutrals next to me instead. can you explain what i did wrong?

@BalloonDota 3 месяца назад

You must likely attacked the ground which causes your hero to target the closest unit to you instead.

@BGLoscar Год назад

What program did you use to do the arrows? I like it, it's like a presentation. Thanks for the tips btw.

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hi, its OBS software

@BGLoscar Год назад

@@BalloonDota Oh really? I've had OBS for a while and I did not know that OBS can do those presentation like yellow arrows. Good to know. Thank you!

@BalloonDota Год назад

@@BGLoscar Sorry I meant EpicPen, not OBS. OBS is to record, epicpen is to draw.

@Garlicgod Год назад

Amazingly explained thanks

@Insane_Gaming-jp4xf 4 месяца назад

Such an amazing video. Thanks 😊for sharing

@haroldrafael8528 Год назад

Is this concept also applicable in all lanes?

@BalloonDota Год назад

Most of it yes, the only difference is that there are 2 heroes to consider so strengths and weaknesses, punishment can differ

@adammoeljono9647 Год назад

very good explanation

@PalleXtrme 2 месяца назад

Thanks bruh. Perfectly explained.

@easonchan696 Год назад

One thing Ive learn from Sumail & topson perspective is they always hitting enemy if he’s range vs Melee unless the cs is low enough to secure ,sometimes they will even just keep clicking enemy rather then securing the creep ,and I found this way is very effective to push enemy out of their lane,do you think this is the right approach or just play for cs game in the lane and wait for own timing ?

@BalloonDota Год назад

The idea is about who's stronger than the opposition. As long as you will win a trade, you will almost always give up the other priorities like denying, aggroing and last hitting to trade the enemy unless you can use spells to secure last hits and trade at the same time which is the most efficient way to trade. This concept is called playing for 'contested creeps' to bait out the enemy so you create an earlier advantage to trade.

@solaceoftheworld 11 месяцев назад

this is super useful! thanks

@varunittigi9288 Год назад

Hi nice video!! Suppose Level 1 enemy is stronger than me then after i deny the range creep as u mentioned...should i drag the wave to my twr and last hit or try to keep it on my side by moving in "U shape" to maintain creep equillibruim.

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hey, the ideal scenario would always to play as close to your side of the lane as possible. If your enemy is chasing you down then you are forced to drag the wave past the tower to hold it between your two towers instead. If he isn't running you down then you should be making the 'U shape' to hold the lane for your wave to meet.

@Mikeexteriorcleaning Месяц назад

Also to note,, you are using ironwood branch then tango so you get a faster regen speed. Most players at lower ranks wouldn't do this. Especially I never see it in Herald, aside from me doing it.

@KybubStudios Год назад

how does a meepo punish a player this early for enemy trying to go on range creep.

@21minus1 Год назад

hi, i don't understand why as you said if windranger gets lvl 3-4 ember can't win the lane anymore. I thought ember always wins this matchup because he gets levels on his w and spams it (i am a wr player)

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hey, WR's powershot would one shot ember's flame guard easily in the early lvl 1-3. The only way ember would win this is if wr doesn't hit him at all and just keeps hitting creeps, not using spells on the guy and allowing ember to run into her face and somehow just stands there. Perhaps what you might be describing here is underplaying yourself as wr or you just got outplayed by a good ember player.

@faisalahmed6436 Год назад

if it's range vs range or mele vs mele what is the right approach ?

@BalloonDota Год назад

If melee vs melee, usually we will trade whenever spell is up from either side. Of course, this is still going to be dependent on power spikes of the match up. If enemy hero is in your face, then you will mostly right click them and throw spell to trade. If range vs range, this is more about making the enemy ranged hero walk in to take a creep, then you will need to try and trade the enemy without drawing aggro by running out of creep aggro range. It is however, still viable to draw aggro and hit the enemy hero as long as you are doing more damage to the enemy than he is doing to you.

@chingjongting4615 7 месяцев назад

Hey i have a question hope u can reply on that: when i need to go for bottlr first item or actually some state item first? was struggling like im playing qop vs vois spirit while if i go 4 iron branches i feel like he is more pain than im that i not able to fight him even with range due to creep is hitting me as well. In that scenario izit buying state item first will be a better idea or still need to go for bottle and spam skill on void?

@BalloonDota 7 месяцев назад

Hi, pre 2 mins bottle will always be priority in lane if you are using a hero that depends on spells to lane.

@Huntington1988 7 месяцев назад

Hey bro, love your videos. Most of the time when I try to pull creep aggro to ranged creep two of the melee creeps give up and aggro back on the melee creeps again. How do I pull all the melee creeps onto my ranged creep every time like you do? 👊

@BalloonDota 7 месяцев назад

Hi, that's because creep aggro duration only lasts for 2.3 seconds. After that, it will stop chasing you. You need to attack the creep for it to chase after you still as the creep is about to turn back after aggro for it to stay on you, or you need to reaggro again after the cooldown ends.

@Huntington1988 7 месяцев назад

Thx bro

@henriqueruschel3102 2 месяца назад

thank you honney

@lukeatillo6954 4 месяца назад

Thanks coach! ✨🙏💖😁✨

@djallelkateb1845 Год назад

so good ❤❤❤❤ need more videos like this

@CompleteReview Год назад

can you explain the meele and ranged matchup with MK and TA? as they have the furthest meele and shortest ranged

@sarkybae 11 месяцев назад

more like this please!

@jdsan2636 Год назад

Just subbed!

@ez.fartsneezy2889 7 месяцев назад

Very helpful thank you so much for this

@federicocapriotti2180 Год назад

what about sf, he raze u 3 times gets the ranged and then procede to raze u other 3 tiems u dead lvl 1

@BalloonDota Год назад

These heroes that are lane dominators often have their power spikes. So, you need to abuse them before they get stronger in lane. For example, Shadow Fiend and Viper at lvl 1-2 is not that dangerous unless SF has 2 razes stacked on you, and 3+ stacks from Viper. Once they hit lvl 3 onwards, that is when the lane gets hard. So, your goal is to try and get as much out of the lane as possible without having sf raze you 3 times (reset raze if already got 2 stacks from SF or 3 stacks from Viper).

@federicocapriotti2180 Год назад

@@BalloonDota bro another thing i noticed, that makes my trade very inefficient, is that when im ranged and i hit enemy melee from hg i pull all creeps to me, and to not try to pull them under tower i tank them, and even if i move i take a lot of damage with heroes like invoker, and i lose the harrass even tho the enemy didnt evne hit me once. Creeps keeps attacking me while i spam right click

@BalloonDota Год назад

@@federicocapriotti2180 hey, you need to harass only when you are able to win the trade. That means you should be taking lesser damage, either from the creeps, the enemy hero or both so you need to know how to hit without getting hit, or hit and get hit but still do more damage. I will make a video soon about how to win most trades in mid, heads up for that

@federicocapriotti2180 Год назад

@@BalloonDota bro, ur awesome thank you, i'll wait for the video :)

@danieldubs6957 Год назад

Nice content bro

@Brightus5254 Год назад

Such a helpful vid man

@MJ-yr9yh Год назад

Thanks for the content ✅

@superlogic255 3 месяца назад

one comment tho, you need to be at similar exp/level, you can't ignore they level 2 first. in such extreme case like huskar / viper / necro they will out trade you if you are behind them in level, even level 2.

@superlogic255 3 месяца назад

otherwise, great video.

@gzdiggadanke Год назад

even as 7.4k guy i learned sth great video

@arifiantoagung233 3 месяца назад

Good guide ma n i hope I can grind fast with knowledge not emotion

@lillmooswagg937 Год назад

superb!

@denzelfoley9743 Год назад

One thing I noticed about this guide is that when you played windranger you went blight stone meaning you will not be able to get bottle before water runes which could mean that all the trading gets nullified since bottle in current patch is basically full heal at 2 mins. You also went salve on ember spirit instead of spending less gold and rushing bottle. I generally only spend about 300ish gold when I play mid do you think this aggressive trading is worth it against a hero that can full heal at 2 mins with bottle? When I play mid lane I focus more on making sure I secure all the CS to crow my bottle straight away unless I'm in a clearly dominant matchup or the enemy has had a mistake that is too easy to punish. Edit: (I've found playing like this to work at around 5k mmr but I do think that this is correct way to play mid on the older patches pre water rune.)

@ryoshi04 Год назад

hes actually teaching you how to handle early creep wave by giving opponent pressure also. With your playstyle you prob gonna only have 50 50 lane most of the time, or even giving the opponent hero opportunity to hit their level spike easily.

@denzelfoley9743 Год назад

@@ryoshi04 Well I'm pretty sure i already kind of do this subconciously but only slightly less aggressive. I just found the item builds to be unrealistic on current patch.

@BalloonDota Год назад

Hi, to explain further on this, Windranger with a blight stone into a melee hero makes it so that she can keep poking without ever getting poked back which can add in a lot of initial harass into the lane. Similar to how Mirana and Hoodwink can do the same thing because of how they can abuse melee heroes without getting hit to further push every trade's advantage. mThe thing about bottle is if you save for bottle, the chances of you dominating the lane is going to fall significantly if by the time you hit that bottle, you had done minimal or suboptimal harass to the opponent. Like mentioned in the video, the lane is easily decided by level 1-2 in the first four waves. IF you are able to pull the enemy in and push them out all the time with favorable trades, simply sending out a salve and some mangoes with full health full mana when the enemy is stuck with below half health will significantly win you the lane almost immediately regardless of whether or not you have that early bottle which could in fact even delay the trading advantage you would have in lane if you wait too late.

@BalloonDota Год назад

I am not advocating for forcing trades, I am simply teaching you to identify favorable trades, to recover immediately after instead of waiting for the bottle which will make you recover too slow and lose advantage. Perhaps what you are referring to is more of playing for CS, trading off VERY obvious spell casts and mispositions without much punishment and waiting for the bottle to come slowly at prior minute 2. However, I can guarantee you that if you play against a very good mid laner, you will not have that time to buy the bottle because of how much recovery is necessary to simply just sit in lane and take creeps. I hope that helps. :)

@BalloonDota Год назад

@@ryoshi04 Thank you for explaining this!

@AhmadChaidir Год назад

Great video bro. Subs

@junyilee377 2 месяца назад

Wat a nice video i keep chuckling even tho its very srs

@saeeshnaik8016 Год назад

very helpful

@9811182319 Год назад

very informative and helpful, thanks mate, cheers gg wp

@madarabuu8929 Год назад

increase your volume please

@larasoftimpact 10 месяцев назад

can u improve ur mic quality? cant hear clearly on normal volume

@TheAHAZe Год назад

Youre a genius, japenese!

@christosv.4692 4 месяца назад

Nice video

@oc6840 2 месяца назад

Do you also have a tutorial against someone who is higher than 2k mmr? That wr clearly was not higher than 2k mmr.

@williamchea3465 3 месяца назад

i find myself becoming weak mid to late game when i was dominating early to mid :/

@adrian-manolito Год назад

I really like this video

@callof.gaming9043 Год назад

I play this heros, And I really want to be good at them, (Batrider, Pangulier, Dp, invoker, Storm, Ember, Puck, Primal Beast, Earth spirit), I watch a lot and try to learn everything, but because of school I can't play yet but after a month I can play again :)

@amirbahador.developer 3 месяца назад

ty❤

@ПростойЗритель-б1г Год назад

thanks

@marcourban9233 Год назад

what means cs ?

@BalloonDota Год назад

Creep score

@fenibr00d Год назад

Would be useful to make ranged vs ranged

@monstrum250 10 месяцев назад

Bro do u still playing dota?

@BalloonDota 10 месяцев назад

Yes sir, am still doing coaching and playing

@NineofAstora Год назад

awesome

@Pozorchelovechestva Год назад

Please put off your kreeps skin, i cant see mele or range kreep is

@monseigneur6365 Год назад

Thank you I am playing mid laner

@acordacorda 11 месяцев назад

thank you

@bendanglcr17 Год назад

I thought it's nothing to say at first

@icata12345 Год назад

any tips how to lane against OD? i feel like every lane against him is a strungle no matter the pick.

@BalloonDota Год назад

OD isn't strong at lvl 1 or 2. He starts getting annoying once he reaches lvl 3 and 5 if he plays with astral imprisonment. So the key is to abuse him at lvl 1 and 2 by taking trades that will go your favor.