@@mtnman1984 yup the computers are more than fast enough to take the input from steering wheel and figure out where drivers want to go and brake the correct wheel to pull the car the way you want.
I am all for a sporty car having neutral handling and being able to oversteer easily. Lots of fun! That being said, with modern stability systems there is no excuse for not being able to pass this test with the system on.
Yeah, the fact that the RAV4 failed was puzzling. The majority of modern Toyotas (pretty much anything since the 2005 Highlander onward) have a "Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management" system that can react to (and predict) vehicle behavior 1,000 times every second. Theoretically, it's impossible to spin.
The Citroen Xantia Activa still holds the record for highest speed and greatest stability... This test with cones is so artificial and hitting a few cones does not prove instability or lack of safety... but nearly rolling is pretty radical...
I owned a Xantia 1.9 TD and we took our 15 year old Citroen way into the Aussie outback to the Flinders Ranges, up the Oodnadatta Track and down to Coober Pedy... fabulous comfort and economy, where nearly every other vehicle was a four wheel drive... Such a great car... Also loved my DS, GS & CX.
The A-class - in german 'A-Klasse' - was quickly nicknamed 'Vält-Klasse'. 'Weltklasse', which is german translates roughly to Top Notch and 'Välta' means turning over in Swedish.
No surprise that a refrigerator on wheels doesn't corner too well. I see you didn't show a Miata/MX5 of any year doing the course. Why? 2400lbs 50/50 weight distribution! It's been one of the best, if not the best, autocross vehicle since inception.
Have a look at the stability tests done by the channel car hub. Little pretend SUVs are lethal People sacrifice so much just to sit 10 inches higher Worse fuel consumption, more weight, worse handling, higher centre of gravity, increased brake and tyre wear and a higher price to buy. Do people really need one that badly ?
That ain't rocket science - it's basic physics. We have been building low, wide cars that don't roll since the 1922 Lancia Lambda. And then, about 25 years ago, we started building tall, heavy vehicles with a high centre of gravity. Unsurprisingly, they are unstable and roll over easily. Well, duh!
Hilux suspension isnt soft by any means though thats to be expected as most pickups outside the US are designed to carry heavy loads on a regular basis.
cars like the m4 have setups to perform well on regular racetracks but with the comfort and safety in mind compared to racecars that are extremely tiring and twitchy to drive. For the moose test you need an autocross setup which is a different tuning: suspension dampers spring rates front and rear plus swaybars stiffness that differ from front rear depending on weight distribution.Also for sportier cars the stability control may be set up so that it lets you do most of the work and feel what the car is doing.But you can have find cars with both good results on moose and on track reviews as well although some might be more dangerous and harder to control at the limit despite being good at the moose test.
Bigger wheels ARE the problem in the Toyota Hilux, because they use low profile tires with stiffer sidewalls. The silver Hilux had smaller wheels and thicker sidewalls with more flex (or roll) that allowed the tires to slide; keeping the bottom of the truck from slowing faster than the upper part, i.e., they act less like the fixed point of a lever. Ditto, the Grand Cherokee, but it's the time of form over function.
6:40 Maki-E, Maki Maki... Too Japanish-sounding name for an "American" car. And one that manages to flip over despite have a ton of heavy metal lithium supposedly at the bottom center of gravity.
The problem is mostly the weight... all those moderne car are too heavy (electric or hybrid)... But stupide people tink that when you are hight on road in a SUV, you are safe.
All of them are expensive high end vehicles. What are you really paying for? Despite the hate for anything Nissan they seem to actually be building safer vehicles than toyota. Hmmm. Big seller getting away with crap. Scotty Kilmer would never talk about this. 😆
My car passes at 81km/h on the moose test, performed by km77. That's the main reason I bought this model instead of some overpriced dieselgate german piece of crap
CLA is an A class as well. Not rear wheel drive so it's also just a budget car underneath with a premium badge to trick people. To be fair all Mercedes are crap these days
The moose test has lost its meaning. Reason: The press is bored because this test does not represent a dangerous situation in reality. The cones were put up according to the feeling of Nordic scandal press people in order to experience a spectacle. After the Mercedes shipwreck, rows of cars from all over the world were placed on the roof using this procedure for test purposes in Germany. There were no moose in Sweden before this test. Today this is regulated with electronics. The original A Class had a more modern and comfortable chassis than later after the moose test configuration.
@@CaptainDangeax I've never driven a Mercedes. However, I know a test engineer. They wanted to know from the Swedes on what basis the new test for cars was created. Invitation, reimbursement of costs, research center ready to go - no response from Sweden. The Swedish tester types much preferred to earn their money on European talk shows.
@@Funtips01 German cars are made of - Plastic termostat housing - Plastic Intake manifold - Plastic valve covers - Plastic water pumps - Plastic everything.
@jefferykingsley2140 my BMW was totally crap in the gearbox and in its electronics, the heating system vent motors broke their motor mounts and that was a long wheelbase 7 series, I don't care to think about the quality in the cheap models.
😂 the Jeep Wrangler did quite well all Toyotas are junk lot of the problems is vehicles are front-wheel drive and not back or drive some of drivers do not know attitude of some of these cars they're too nerdy and think everything has to be the same😂
