It was interesting to talk about some of the similarities and differences between our college experiences! These are based on our college experiences. Let us know some of the difference that you notice! 🤗💜
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@@robertvance552 That's only due to the different definition of college. The 'Trade school' takes a much bigger share. Something like a nurse, or the "driver of a railway" is not going to college nor is it called an engineer. In US you already need to college to do accounting. This has the rank of painting walls, in germany. While it's not downgrading the accountants, it's upgrading the painters. The term we use is "having an academic degree" to distinguish from other trades. In this rates is currently around 50% among the learners, but it used to be 10% 50 years ago, when we had more miners, metal workes, textil, agriculture and so on. That's why the rate in the entire population is in average just 27%.
it wouldn't be as developed and prosperous if it didn't. and if you were wandering, the American education system is the most comprehensive, the most complex, the most complete, the most advanced... by far, the best in the world. which is the reason why The US is the most advanced country in the world, so yeah, you can even say America realizes the benefit of education better than anyone else.
@@holger_p Actually 27% and 44% are the rate of people with tertiary education so it already contain trade schools. for further information you can check the OECD statistic website, it has all of the data in details.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 Are you making fun, or are you serious ? I mean such a ranking doesn't exist and any statement of this kind is pure patriotism and cannot be fact based.
In Germany one needs to pay 300-600 EUR per semester depending on the university, this also includes the transportation fees (public-transport-semester-ticket) which in some states is optional but in other ones is by-default included. Of course, it is nothing compared to the USA, but "free" sounds a bit like "zero dollar".
Could it be that in the US the high tuition is partially to blame on all the sports, the associated cost of facilities like the stadiums, the indoor and outdoor arenas, student travel to all the different events, etc? It's a big money making machine. Looks to me as if German colleges and universities focus on real academics. Want to play sports, be a cheerleader, play in a band? Sure, but what does that have to do with higher education, especially at the level it's being practiced in the US?
I have taught business management in two state universities in the US over three decades both at the undergraduate and graduate level. I also taught at two German universities as a visiting faculty. A major difference I cam across was the degree of rigor. There is not much difference their abilities. In US universities, students have quizzes, midterms, term papers and group assignments throughout the semester. Attendance and participation are demanded and graded. I was shocked to see in Germany where students are enroll in courses that meet at the same time, and students chose which class to attend! Apart from affecting the student's individual learning, such absences affect the learning of cohorts. This is possible because, student grade depends on one final examination in Germany. In addition, many US students demand a good return on their "investment" as they pay tuition.
This is why I never teach English to German high school students unless they contribute some of their own money to my fee. I was in heaven when I went to University and kids were actually paying attention to the teachers. Return on investment. Then again it might have been their parents money paired with peer pressure from people like me who worked at Dunkin Donuts at night.
But remember "Fachabitur" also makes you eligible for certain fachhochschulen as far as i am aware I did my fachabi in metalltechnik and for certain jobs in that industry you can get bachelors/masters and i would be able todo those
Well, I studied Biochemistry in Cologne and for us there was simply no time for partying throughout the week (everyday 8am lecture) and on the weekends most of the students were at her parents. But some faculties are in general partying more, I often ran into promoters which told me to which party I should go 😅 but hey the beer was cheap or free (Freibier) is still a huge thing
Things changed a lot with the Bachelor degree. I started withbtge old system and switched tracks. First it was pretty easy going but for my Bachelor I started at 7 to 8 am and usually finished my work around midnight.
I am studying Biochemistry and Molecular Biology in America.....in a small liberal arts school because I was stupid as a high schooler....and yeah I get to drink maybe every 2 or so weeks on fridays after exams but other than that its literally all work
Im not sure how long its been since Phil went to University, but in most States in Germany you usually pay what is called a "Sozialbeitrag" which includes the Semesterticket to use public transport in the state the University is in.
Dev-Talk Yes but this is not "tuition" as we know it in the States. In Germany they are administration fees which include benefits such as the Semesterticket. Plus these fees only amount to around 150-300 Euros per semester, compared to the tens of thousands paid at American colleges
@@KristinaKk_xx120 I know and its really not much but still. Its not entirely free and I know some ppl that without help (throug Bafög for example) wouldn't have been able to study.
Many of the more prominent universities in the USA still have dining halls. (They serve actual meals at more or less regular mealtimes - of various standards). There are also eating clubs, for which a group of students agree/s to pay a certain amount per person. The members of the club eat together.
Phil I went to university in Göttingen from 1974 till 1983. At that time (eighties) there was a legendary disco in Göttingen. The Clochard you came in and there was a very old sideboard with a bust of Bismark with a Pickelhelm on his head. Now you have to explain what that is. If the guys at the entrance found you were old enough, i.e. sixteen you were allowed in unless you had Lokalverbot (off limits) because you started a brawl or were too drunk. I spent almost every early morning in this joint from 12 to about 3 a.m. Before 12 no student went there because it was full of school kids. They had to take the last bus home at 12. 4 beers was the daily bread and I danced all night. Even on the night before I had my diploma exams. My friends and I mourned when the Clochard was closed because the building was sold and the new owner tore it down to build an apartment block.
I went to school in germany and while we had sport clubs it was never really big. Oftentimes we wouldn't even practice and only go to one tournament a year
I like your clips but are a bit surprised that you always give the disclaimer. Is this because it is "manditory" or do youstill get responses that are over the line (when no disclamer is mentioned)?
Higher education is not free, no matter where you live. You can debate which system is better and more effective for funding higher education - individual pays vs. funding from government through taxation. But nothing is free - professors, administrators and other faculty can’t work for free, maintenance has to be paid for buildings, and on and on. Someone pays for it. Same with healthcare. You can make an argument that a socialized system is more effective, but you cannot claim it is free.
Fyi- tailgating is called that because you do it off the "tailgate" of your truck. When you are parking you lower your truck tailgate (trunk door thingy) and partayyyyy. And university usually indicates it has a grad school. Colleges are smaller and don't offer masters degrees. Often colleges will change their names after they get a graduate program to university. (the exceptions are some of the historical schools who keep the name college for traditional purposes)
Trotz verschiedener Nachforschungen ist mir bis heute nicht klar, was ein College eigentlich ist!? In Deutschland gibt es die College-Stufe als Oberstufe des Gymnasiums. Könne man das amerikanische College vielleicht mit "Hochschule" übersetzen? Ich habe leider noch nirgends ein wirklich überzeugende Definition des amerikanischen College-Begriffes gelesen, der die Dinge in einem Satz auf den Punkt bringen konnte. Warum ist das so?
I have a question and please answer my question cause I live in Georgia and I am going to graduate in georgia and then come in German to learn in German university and do I have to finish highs school in Germany is it really really necessary ?😻😻😻😻 please answer me I love ur videos it really helps me😍😍😍
The difference between universities (Universität) and universities of applied sciences ( Fachhochschule) is mostly the orientation. Traditional universities have more of an academic orientation while the "Fachhochschule" is more profession oriented.
Of course now the situation is very different over all. But the clubs are not closing because we are not into partying anymore, nooo. It is because of gentrification and cultural spaces and clubs being kicked out by ignorant Rich real Estate dudes, that are building office spaces into them... it is so sad to see the subculture disappear.
i dont understand why is everybody talking about college education? germany got one of the best apprenticeship system and craftmanship in the world and to this day the saying: handwerk hat goldenen boden is proven right. im 41 years old, started to work with the age of 16, build my own house with the age of 30 and maybe finished paying for my house with the age of 56. in this current covid 19 situation i have to work full time + a lot extra hours, not like this college degree schlipsträger who are now on kurzarbeit because there are useless now. the middle class is running the world now and not the high degree made-to-measure suit wearing office worker.
Yes, the Handwerker are very good in Germany but don't you find it a little bit overdrawn and also insulting to call peoole with a university degree "useless". I assume they are in average as hard working as Handwerker. Do you have statistics that prove that people with a "betriebliche Ausbildung" use less Kurzarbeit than people with a university degree? Let's not build enemies within society. Your comment is very arrogant.
It's a topic of comparison. Good way to learn more besides what we personally know. Maybe same reason why many are watching their youtubes. I find them interesting and a healthier distraction and entertainment. I went to college but also think it is not for everyone. Agree apprenticeship/craftmanship work great too. I don't think it's saying one is better than the other. I like reading comments because I learn about how others paths have worked for their lives.
Niko: Meine Freunde haben alle verschiedene Ausbildungsstände. Und alle arbeiten auch jetzt: Der Arzt, die Hebamme, der Monteur und ich. Habe auch studiert und sorge gerade dafür, dass uns allen der Strom nicht wegbleibt. Also keine Kurzarbeit und nicht überflüssig. Ach ja, wir tragen alle keinen Schlips (•‿•)
@@wora1111 natürlich ist meine aussage ziemlich überzogen dargestellt und viele wichtige berufe gehen nicht ohne studiert zu haben. aber mir kam es bis jetzt so vor das grade in deutschland die menschen nicht stolz sind auf ihr sehr gutes ausbildungssystem und gradezu die jugend von heute in ein akatemische laufbahn gedrängt werden. ich hab mir selbst in meiner jugend so sprüche wie, wenn du nichts studierst verdienst du später nichts anhören müssen. in erster linie bekommt der handwerker auch viel weniger wie in anderen berufen wo eine akademische ausbildung vorausgegangen ist. aber der vorteil den viele nicht sehen ist, das man ab seiner ausbildung schon in die rente einzahlt und somit schon früh vorsorgen kann, der handwerkermangel garantiert zur zeit einen wenn man sich nicht doof anstellt sehr sicheren job und man spart sich jede menge geld da man viel selbst machen kann auch wenn man branchenfremde sachen macht, da grade bei handwerker ein sehr hohes technisches verständnis ist, die ihnen ermöglicht auch nicht übliche arbeitsabläufe zu verrichten. ich hab mir schon viele solche vergleichsvideos angeschaut und wenn es um ausbildung ging wurde immer nur die akademische seite gezeigt obwohl sich keiner mit einer hanwerkerischen, kaufmännischen oder im pflegebereich absowierten ausbildung, die grade jetzt so dringend gebraucht werden, verstecken brauch. es wäre schön wenn dies auch mal zur geltung kommt!
@@weltgeschehen8400 sure my commend is very overdrawn and sounds very arrogant. the problem that i have is the mindset that if you dont go to college, you dont earn enough or only low educated ppl do craftmens work. you never find a comparison video about apprenticeship system in different regions in the world like the college videos. i think thats more arrogant than my little rant here. i dont wanna point out the good and the bad guys, just dont ignore the fact that the key to success is by far not only throu a academic degree.
If he went to school in Germany, he would have been taught all aspects of English, including the grammar. Whereas English speaking countries have the dogma that "native speakers are never wrong," so their children can't be taught to speak or write differently.
The American schoolsystem is completely f'd up. Get your country solicialized, and get rid of the 'every man for himself' attitude and you could also have such a school system. And also medicare for all. Why not? The American dream is long dead already anyway.
Jurgen Van Den Bergh I think the big problem in the US is the concept that ANYONE should be able to attend University, rather than just letting the smartest (gymnasium graduates) attend. With such a large market, US Universities are a big money making business.
Jurgen: Better schools in a socialized system? No way! In the US, anyone can study at a college or university if they study and work hard to obtain the grades needed to get into their desired school. Germany limits universities to those who have a gymnasium degree. I know plenty of people who hated high school and did not go to a college right away. Instead, they traveled and worked for a few years, and then went to a university and graduated at the top of their classes with the best grades and they are now millionaires with several companies. Not everyone learns the same way. People are not all the same. In Germany, the people I know would have been limited just because they did not go to a gymnasium. Medicare for all? You obviously do not have great grasp of math and financial issues. The US is way too big for nationalized medicine. There are over 320 million people in the US, and the US would go broke within six months with such a system. Germany has only 60 to 80 million people and everything is overpriced and these costs are passed along to people who did not study at any university. The "Every man for himself" attitude has made America the most powerful nation on earth. We have some of the top rank universities in the world here. Each year many leaders of the world come to the US to study. If our universities were so bad, so many foreigners would not come to the US. We couldn't be who we are within a socialized system. Socialized systems are for people who are lazy and want their government to protect them from themselves. In the US, everyone can succeed, but some do not because they lack the drive and intelligence to do so. The American Dream is and always will be alive and well. It just demands that YOU make the proper decisions and work hard. No politician nor governmental rule should be able to limit a person's American Dream. Germany has too many rules and regulations according to my German friends.
The biggest problem is people say colleges or medical system are free in Germany or Sweden or etc, they are NOT. You have to pay a hefty amount of money as tax after you graduate. American system is like a pay per use cell phone and European's is like contract. In US you pay for what you use, in Europe you have to pay no matter what. One of the biggest thing the media doesn't tell you is that in Sweden education is free but if you graduate from med school your average income is about 60,000$ (about 70,000$ in Germany) and you have to pay 63% tax (about 43% in Germany) and 25% VAT (19% in Germany) and a car is 50% more expensive than US and gas is 3.5x more expensive, In contrast in US you graduate as a doctor with 250,000$ student loan but average general practitioner income is 233,000$ and tax is about 20-25% and VAT is 8.25% (except states that have extra state tax- not where I live in Texas) and you pick which one is better!
Donald Trump and Klaus Zumwinkel (tax defrauder) both attended the University of Pennsylvania. What tells us this about the image of this place? :-D I would also say that for some idiots the high fees are for buying the degree.
You think the religion has influences on politics in Europe ? I don't think so, there is not even something like the bible belt. It's always, as more poor the people, as more the hope for god.
Holger P. He’s not even talking about Europe. He’s just saying that education and sports and tied together in America even more than religion and politics in America. That German education needs to teach you reading comprehension
@@gdo3510 Why do you need to blame people just for misunderstandings, and if you can assume it's not their first language ? If you want to be helpful, the first part would have been just enough. On second reading you are right. The phrase "America does something better" below a german-american couple, usually introduces an America-Europe comparison. OK. Not this time.
@@holger_p yeah what i ment is that in america the influence of religion in politics is too strong...not so much in europe...sorry for the misunderstanding
I'd also add that in the US it is more about a college degree and what college you went to. People often work in a completely different field afterwards (there is a lot more changing jobs and fields in general). While in Germany you study a very specific subject with the intend to work that particular job. You would never have random courses like you can choose from in the US within your curriculum. You can only select ones related to your subject. Another funny aspect are the "forever" students in Germany. Since it's so affordable, there are some people who study for years and years and years.
Yeah, but that problem is usually overstated. A lot of students who fall into the category are working some second job in the relevant field, so they eventually either make a career out of their second job or they finish their degree and then enter the job market with both practical and theoretic experience. Or they are raising a child by the side. And those who genuinely don't turn up to their courses or do only one or two per year, they don't really cost the university anything extra, because the number of professors aso are based on how many people are actually sitting in the courses, not based on how many people theoretically turn up.
Zonker Harris at Walden College in the Doonesbury comic strip spent eight years at a four-year college before starting his career as a stoner. The UK used to have "chronic" students like that, who had family money to support them, but they seem to have faded away by the 1960's.
Here in the U.S., we don't have an equivalent of your 'fachhochschule', which is unfortunate because we lack professions like craftsmanship...Germany seems to have a strong support system and government subsidies for people in a broader range of 'working with hands' professions...and agriculture!
We do have vocational/technical schools in the US though. They offer things like welding, electrical, auto mechanics, drafting and carpentry. You can sometimes even take some of those type of classes part time during the last couple years of high school. I took cosmetology in high school, but never got my license. I then went back to a vocational school as a young adult, 26 years old, and took nursing. I did get my practical nursing license.
@@DeanaandPhil It's not that we don't have many natural resources, it's that culturally we don't honor professions, such as craftsmen, farmers and others who can do 'hand-skilled' labor. Socially, there's a hidden stigma about laborers, etc. (they don't measure up). The truth is that there's global, collective greed for "high-end" professions, which carry high-salaries, prestige and comfortable lifestyles. Let's face it.
@@lisao7600 Yes, you're correct about that, but not on the level of European countries to my knowledge...they place a broader degree of focus on non-university skills and offerings.
A small specification, in Germany there is the dual training system for craft and trade in two variations: a) vocational training (company) and theoretical lessons at a vocational school, b) vocational training and study at a university / university of applied sciences, private university ~ based on an agreement with the Chamber of Crafts or Chamber of Commerce. Studying directly after graduation does not correspond to a full craft profession, since you are almost exclusively concerned with the development with machines etc., but not with repairs, maintenance, installation.For most craft professions, someone who wants to become self-employed needs a master's degree, which is awarded under the supervision of the chambers of crafts at special vocational schools. You have to make a masterpiece for the practical test (examples: part of an engine, special haircut / or a wig, etc.)In order to strengthen yourself for the financial side of your own company, you can also acquire the "Business Administration of Crafts" at a few universities.
Wow. In the UK we have a computerised system for all universities and you write one application and put up your grades. Then you get offers. It's really easy to use!
The key is “if you’re smart enough” or “willing to put in the effort and study” then free education is good. I bet if US did this every can attend then the majority will flunk out and waste tax payers money. I’m an American that worked in Germany and seen benefits of their system. The students need to prove their worth by passing an exam before going to college.
Until about 12 years ago, students in Germany that wanted to study highly demanded subjects such as medicine, architecture, psychology etc. could not apply at individual universities, but had to apply at a centralised agency (ZVS - Zentralstelle für die Vergabe von Studienplätzen) that would allocate students to available spots in those disciplines across universities around the country. The higher a student's grade average from school would be, the higher the chances of being accepted at all and of being allocated to a preferred university (from that student's individual preference list). As far as I know, this system is still in place for some medical programs.
I went to two different community colleges and transferred to a university. Community colleges are great because there are fewer distractions; it is almost entirely centered on getting your GE's done so you can transfer to university and it is very cheap so you end saving a lot of money. I completed my education at the most infamous party school in America: San Diego State University. I did not party at all. I did not do any extracurriculars. I focused solely on my classes and my major. Thanks to my hard work and savviness with money I was able to graduate with a major I love and be debt-free.
Hey William I am high school student from Germany who really wants to study law later on in the USA. I wanted to ask about studying costs of a community College there, let's say majoring PPE? Thank you
@@samouelhemati7530 The costs of community college vary from state to state, but the average is around $8,000 a year. And usually, there is financial aid that can greatly offset those costs. Regarding your interest in law and majoring in PPE, it is often the case that CCs don't have such majors. Most CC's have associates degrees and technical certifications. The primary function of a CC is to transfer you to a university. PPE is a specific major and not all universities have it, although I'm pretty sure many do. I believe my alma mater, San Diego State University has a PPE major. Regarding law, many students come into university as pre-law majors, but that is not necessary to get into law school. You can do PPE and still get into law school. Keep in mind, too, that law school is a post-graduate level of education. You won't be able to go to law school without a BA. And law schools cost a lot, as well. They may have financial aid to help you out but it varies from school to school, and state to state. I hope that helps. Good luck to you.
Well you asked how partying is for German students right now, but all I ever experienced since I´ve started studying thanks to Covid is sitting in front of my laptop alone in my room. I haven´t even been in the college building yet... prettty strange times!
I’m not in college yet but I know for myself and the people I know partying isn’t as appetizing now compared to how it used to be. I mean I’m a bit of an introvert so that may have something to do with it but personally I don’t really wanna stay up late surrounded by a bunch of people and get drunk.
The biggest issue in the US’s high student debt is that teaching is a field less people go in to. I had teachers in high school in their forty’s that were still in debt. This has caused a shortage of teachers because people don’t want to be stuck in that much debt with such low pay after college.
i graduated two years ago. I was on a private university with a student fee in western germany. We had lessons from 8 am to 5 pm, to get there it was for me also 2 hours going by train. We also had to learn a lot, so partying was never a thing for me. But instead i was going out to eat with friends from University, because we didn't have a Mensa or Imbiss. Luckily i am not in debt, but i know people they are in debt, because of Bafög or Studienkredit.
But with Bafög, you also should mention, even if you have a full Bafög of 861€ per month for 5 years (or more, if you stretch out the time you'll get the money), what would be a dept of 51.660€ or more, you only have to pay back 10k and no more cent. So this dept is, I would say: Ok.
@@albrechtkuhnert870 yea i agree but the people i know could not graduate because of the debt. My university and the admission in general was really complicated for German standards. I didn't had bafög 👀 and i think 860€ is a lot 🤯 but obviously there is no comparison to what my fiance had to pay for his american collage.
So in the Netherlands the System has some similarities with the German version. You have three brought highschool levels. Decided to which you go is depending on elementary school and an final test. The biggest of which is the school that prepares one for craftsmanship education, which takes 4 years. Then you learn a craft and you have 4 levels of those craftsmanship schools. That is almost all practical education. Then there is the preperation for applied sciences. Which takes 5 years. It is somewhat advanced but does not focus on research techniques and scientific research. That would be the last level. Of which there are two types, that take 6 years and are Scientific education preparation levels. Gymnasium which includes Latin and or Greek and Atheneum which replaces that with other courses. Within each level you have to choose a set of courses that you keep doing after the first three or two years depending on the level. That makes you legible for a set of higher education programs you can follow. So the scientific education all are Bachlor of Science, arts or Law. If you for example have done the Economy and Society in highschool without Physics' then you cannot do many of the Beta sciences. I tried CS for one year but found it too boring so changed. 15% approx. is legible for this type of education. Then 20% is legible for the Applied sciences. Which are Engineering, applied psychology, managment. Mostly they are 50% research on how to apply science to a specific professional field. In my case I study Aviation and do the major of operation. Some like Aviation are Bachlors of Science due to the course being almost at the same level as scientific education. Often more difficult for people from highschool for the applied sciences level. It is meant for mostly education for managment functions. The scientific education takes often three years and the applied sciences takes fours. Mostly due to the later needing a year of apprenticeship and then a final reasearch thesis. While in the former it is one of the two. Nobody gets why. Since i went to university we can get loans for the 2000 euro we have to pay for tuition. The rest is payed for by the government to the schools. This instead of gifting the money if you finish the school. In exchange for investments in better education. Because this did not happen the year i switched the tuition halved for a year. Except for me because I had already started a study earlier. For those they get a check to study extra after finishing school. Although i might miss that option due to me switching. I feel like i get screwed over.
He made me laugh saying that. What he meant is that we're allowed to buy beer and wine at 16 because of the low alcohol percentage. The hard liquor (vodka, tequila, etc.) only once we're 18.
we have to different "kinds of Alcohol" in Germany. 1. you can drink and buy with 16 (Beer, Wine, sparkling Wine and mixes of that) 2. you can drink and buy with 18 and this is all stuff that is distilled alcohol (Whisky, Rum, ...) the strength is not relevant.
Hey Phil here something to blow your mind!!! How about McDonalds and Subway inside a hospital, yes it’s true. It’s here in Florida 🤣 American education for the most part is a big rip off! I wished I had studied in Germany!! I would not be in debt today 😫 what $50,000 that’s nothing Hey the germans got it right, they learn how to drink first ( how to handle alcohol) and learn how to drive second!!! 🤣
haha, true. If you don't have a drivers license yet, there is no problem with choosing the designated driver. :D I haven't seen fastfood in a hospital, yet. But we are planning to visit Florida, soon! :)
Deana and Phil Let me know when I’d love to show you around or at least give you a few suggestions on what to do here. I live in Fort Lauderdale. I was suppose to visit Frankfurt am Main in August, visiting family and friends but since every festival has been cancelled and who knows what restrictions they may have, I would probably have to be in quarantine for 14 days 😞 On a side note I’m moving back either next year I’ll fill you in on the details later
Don't envy the US college sports. The general student population doesn't participate (other than watching) it. It does not enhance the academic teaching and learning process and it costs all students money to support having it.
That with the German food is not true! All the Germans I’ve lived with have a really nice and healthy eating lifestyle. Either vegetarian or vegan but also the non-veggie take care of their eating habits
You just made me realize how much I miss college time! After graduating from junior high school I wanted to go to vocational school to get a specific profession at the age of nineteen. Unfortunately, vocational schools were badly associated, so my family did not agree to my studying at such a school. So I decided to make my dreams come true and I graduated from law school. After graduating from law school, we have an application that takes over three years. The application costs a lot, but there is no compulsion to go to it right after graduation. You can do it at any time. I decided to go to work. It has now been three years since I graduated from law school, and I still haven't decided to take the entrance exam for the application. It turned out that I prefer to learn foreign languages, because their knowledge gives me better prospects for a good job than a legal application. What a pity. And I could graduate from vocational school and become a confectioner, for example.
I assume uni is not free for foreign students studying in Germany. In the us, we like foreign students because they pay full tuition, not in-state tuition
Yeah, a lot of possibilities to party in Göttingen during semester. I'm from nearby Kassel and am always baffled that Göttingen is dead between semesters. O.o All university students left town and it's pretty empty. In Kassel you don't recognize this as much.
Hallo Ihr Beiden, ich schaue eure Videos echt gerne :) manchmal wünschte ich mir Ihr würdet deutschen Untertitel in den Videos haben dann würde ich besser mit kommen da mein English nicht ganz so perfekt ist :) Trotzdem schaue ich weiterhin gerne eure Videos. Bleibt gesund!!! Liebe Grüße
I think as a high school student back in 2007 who also had a German foreign exchange student living with me for the year: Germany - Educational and focused. America - Best 4 years of your life (and all that educational stuff too)
I love videos that compare life here in the US vs other countries. I graduated with $30,000 of student loan debt 16 years ago. I just made my last payment because I paid it off early I paid off $11,000 in the last two years.
The USA in-state college tuition difference is from it being the state's public university. So some of the state taxes that the citizens of that state go towards the state education system, and why it's "cheaper" though these US tuition costs are so high cannot say it is cheap by any means. Glad Deana pointed out that it only includes the tuition, and not all of the other "fees" that they require, including the whatever major you may be doing - lab fees or supplies, and of course textbooks, computer, etc. Not everyone who applies will get in either. Did Phil say that the students at the one type of high school can then apply to the universities in Germany and tuition is covered? Can the students from the other high school even be allowed to apply if they wanted to or that is now predetermined. Nice interesting video. Cute cartoons.
In Germany, you need an entrance qualification to apply to universities which is called the "Hochschulreife". You get this after you graduated at this one type of high school ("Gymnasium") Phil was talking about. But that doesn't mean that tuition at University is covered. You still have to pay a fee every semester which is about 350 Euro in my case. This fee includes a ticket for public transportation and covers a part of the administration costs of the university. Not included is housing and food. And to your other question: If you went to a school other than the "Gymnasium", you don't get the university entrance qualification automatically. But you can make up the missing credits afterwards.
7:26 please do not forget that you have to pay around 400€ monthly (around 500$) to rent a room (with electricity and so on) so you have to bring up 6000$ a year to study (except you can live with your parents). If you go to a bigger city you often have to pay a lot more for a room. side note: If you come from a poor family, you don't get to university that easy! You have a 5% chance if your parents are worker or non academic.
How so? My mom didn't make much. My brother and I got to go to a Fachhochschule. He ended up getting a master degree in computer science. I decided to get married and moved to the US. He was eligible for BAFög and only had to pay back €700 or so. But that was years ago. Not sure how it is now.
@@doraemonforever1726 If you get BAföG (german financial student support payed by the state) you have to pay back 50% of it. The maximum rate is around 850€ a month if your parents really can't afford to support you at all. But this is also cuted off to a 10.000€ lean you have to pay back even if you get 850€ for a maximum of 6 Semester. It is a absolutely great condition if you're able to get BAföG. They lowered the requirements this year and this is great.
In germany all you have to pay for university every semester is about 190 - 350 Euros ( as far as i know, some say to 600 but i have applied everywhere and never seen that) i pay 295 Euros per semester. its nice. now i just have to worry about rent
Swedish higher education is free of tuition , and used to be so for all, but now is just free for EU citizens. You have to pay for books and used to have to be a member of the student union that forced a fee, but this last changed. Housing is not included and can be a problem in the big citys, I know that people reported cues to the student apartments in Stockholm of up to seven years (Considering cue times for rental apartments can go up to 30 years in the most wished for areas, and the average is ten years). You apply to programs (I guess this is the most like majors) that often lead to an exam or to individual courses. To get money during your studying you can get finiancial aid to one part, and also a loan. Though to continue to get the loan you need to show results. This is why my knowledge is limited, I applied to the wrong program and had a bad time so did not end up doing anything- this meant that I went for something else I could not afford it even if the school was free (because food and housing still cost money). The sports thing you might want to dig into a bit more, thinking of how different the leauge setups are, at least for the US Pro leauges and Football/Soccer in Germany with the 51% rule. This might explain why there is not so much university competition.
thank you for the insight from a Swedish point of view, very interesting to hear. I think the housing situation and renting in cities got very very bad over the last decade with the economic growth. I can imagine it being super hard to find a place in a city like Stockholm being on a student's budget... waiting for 7 years to get student housing sounds not like a good option.
I think having the sports clubs outside of the college is a good thing, because when you graduate you don’t have to Stopp with your sports group only because of graduation.
It does suck that they're allowed to offer majors that will not secure you any work but it's up to you to do the research unfortunately. And why on earth anyone would major in Fermented science I've got no idea lmao.
That's not right. In Germany we have also something called "Berufskolleg" (Google translates that with professional Colleg) what's more like the US Colleg than the typs of Universities in the Video. There you can get quallifications from secondary school level up to the same range like a Bachelore Diploma. I have done so and I'm going to an University of Applyed Science now. For all the Universities at 1:54 you need to have a testimony/school report that you get after class 12 or 13 (and yes, we took back the class 13 in the regular sytsem).
Technically you can just be smart and hard working enough to graduate without debt as mentioned earlier; applying to many scholarships and finishing GE requirements in high school via APs and CLEPs. The problem is that these options are not very transparent and require digging, which a lot of first gen college students don’t know about. Another problem is the stigmatization of state/community/trades and the glorification of privates/ivy leagues which means a lot of inelastic demand further encouraged by the loan system. The US as opposed to Germany has a tendency to focus on big names and throw debt at a problem until it goes away.
I think in germany, the students are more anonymous, the professor do not know any of them by name. Actually they never talk with each other, professor is giving lectures and disappears.You have halls with 300-1000 people regularly. Partying is more a matter of age I think, not a students-only thing. The 20year olds party with each other, but there could be garbage workers and craftsmen among them. "Student" is a false friend, by the way. While in US, this addresses already kids in elementary, in Germany this is restricted to colleges only.
Holger P. - I’d say it depends on the university and the classes you’re doing. If you have lectures with lots of people at a large uni I’d agree but if you have small seminars with up to 30 people which I mostly had it’s not anonymous and you were able to approach the professors whenever you needed to.
@@isabellproschak1633 Really ? The seminars were given by the Post-Graduates, hardly by the professor himself. At least in my place. Sure in later years and more specialized topics, lecture size will shrink. Personal talks happen only during thesis and exams.
In state tuition is cheaper because the state taxes that are paid by citizens of that state go, in part, to funding state schools of higher education. Out of state tuition is higher because the individual (their parents actually) has not paid taxes to the state in an “out-of-state” college or university. I would be interested to know what foreign students, in general, pay for higher education if they choose to attend in Germany. Could I, as an American, attend college or university in Germany, for “free?”
I am glad it wasn't serious or else i would have knocked myself out sorry don't take it seriously. Did you check my website self taught to do website otherwise you have to hire a pro to do website I am a natural does that count?
Here’s one thing you could add: Different handwriting, usually acquired in school: A 7 looks like a 1 and a 1 like a capital i (or Roman 1). It can lead to complications in a business environment e.g. where it makes a difference whether you make 1 or 7 expensive purchases. 😁
Will someone please do a vlog on this? I cannot read my husband's handwriting, he cannot read mine, and I cannot read anyone's in Germany it's like code please Lord help me. It's not just the 1 and the 7, it's the entire alphabet. I swear, if the FBI came here looking through his files, they would have no luck. I write in cursive and German people cannot read it. So, there's that.
Sorry for commenting the third time 😂 We do have a Quidditch Team on my University, too. I'm in the second semester and I'm looking forward to the day I can see my University from inside the first time. It was locked down before I started...
University sports: don't forget sports like floorball, canoe polo or ulitamte frisbee. :-D There are "Hochschulmeisterschaften" German College Championships for this and other sports too. But of course nothing is as important as the winner of the Bierstaffel, which is a real event from the institute for sport and when people run and drink bier. I was told that at the University of Clausthal you could even do a Segelflugschein (glider plane license) in the earlier days. When I remember the story right it was in cooperation with the glider plane club in Bad Gandersheim.
UK is like American system for money and applying, but like Germany for applying for a specific subject. UK everyone drinks loads at Uni with private parties, disco's, concerts and balls..both Uni organised or Departement organized or in the city by local pubs and discos. Loads of extra clubs for hobbies. It depends on the subject in Germany. I teach geoscience. Our students need to cover field studies..which can add up. Plus are lectures are from 0800 to 1900..so no getting up late for our students.
