7 of 9 Reactivates Borg Cube - 7 of 9 Hard Wired to Borg Cube separated from the Collective. 

I wonder if the problem is that the writers are not Star Trek fans. One of the qualifications for making decisions about story lines/writing should be that they are followers of the Trek universe.

SuBvErT eXpEcTaTiOnS. lol such awesome build-up and then they just kill it instantly.

Cant agree more. How did seven gain control of the cube without being able to stop the drones being ejected. No sense what so ever. She is the prime candidate to have full knowledge of how to control that cube and its drones... such a wasted scene

Question: (Such a bad story! They realy missed the chance of a great comeback.) Why there had to be always a Lara Croft? Where is the perfect charakter and optik? Clichee and boring. Boring Punk.

While that would have been a better story to be sure. It is a little more realistic this way. Romulins are Methodical they would not have have started the salvage operation without a failsafe in place. the idea of a cube full of drones reawakening out of nowhere is a nightmare Scenario That would have made a sweet episode or two. But no one would have been willing to work on the cube unless there were a foolproof way to deal with the drones.

Well, this comment really didn't age well, did it? That's exactly what they're exploring next season.

@hanikrummi hundursvin This is perhaps one of the most stupid comments I've ever read. Since when has the US media given a solitary fuck about scifi analogues to real-world ideologies? Where do you think the concept of the Borg was invented, Afghanistan? Right here in fucking LA, during the final years of the Cold War.

LoL you're asking the current show-runners and writers to understand (or care about) Star Trek.

@@JimAsAuthor Oohh! Listen to you get all triggered by a poor comparative analysis! You okay? Need a moment to compose yourself after that unwarranted culture war skirmish? A moist towelette?

@@thesciguy4823 Ikr? Why don't they just use their psychic powers to tailor their products to fit your personal tastes and interests?

Good idea!

Those people weren't drones anymore. Just like Seven. They couldn't survive in space without personal shields. Which they didn't have...

@@Pavel_M_Mihalik Yes they were drones. Only a very small number had been liberated the vast majority on the cube were hibernating drones, which is stated at least a dozen times in the series.

They can survive in space and walk on the surface of ships, sure... But how are they supposed to counteract the momentum of getting sucked out into the vacuum of space after the Borg Cube gets depressurized? There's no air in space to help you push back and redirect your momentum. They're basically going to be alive and drifting into the void until their technological implants no longer have the capacity to function and their biological side dies from the lack of nutrients and support. It's a fate far worse than an immediate death.

@@Lordgeorge16 Read my comment in full. I said had the plot made sense seven would have just beamed those borg right back into the cube....they have transporters.... there is zero reason for their losses.

That is a popular fan suggestion!

I'm only watching the show for Seven. Patrick & Picard just shits me lately. I'd love it if she was the main protaganist. Plus her character is so much cooler.

@@jaxr2958 That's objectively untrue and you know it.

@@SlatheTheSpaceMarine I know what my opinion is and I've spoken my truth. Surprised you feel you know it better when we've never even met.

@@jaxr2958 Resistance is futile.

The Virtorian very true! Was such an anticlimactic ending I mean come on defeated the Borg by popping an airlock :/ I wasn’t impressed by that rapid ending I wish seven had experienced not wanting to release the Borg and struggled with being the queen that would of made a great season 2 villain

Josh Fletcher definitely

i was just going to say something about that. that line delivery gave me chills. and a serious case of nostalgia.

SEVEN = KERRIGAN

@@ProfGlitch TRUE! :D

Highlight of the scene!

The romulans should have received the full lower your shields and turn off your weapons, you will be assimilated speech. Imagine her finishing with "Resistance is futile"

A chill went up her's too. She had the cables in her spine.

that was the hottest 7 of 9 scene ever!!!

A laugh went out my mouth

Yeah, the writer says he is a Star Trek fan and grew up with it, but you wouldn't know it by this series.

I don’t think you know what happens when you open a window or a door of a ship into outer space, clue: your sent flying out into outer space. The drones are probably alright but don’t have any type of momentum to return back to the cube.

@@captainr800 They are also still dormant.

@@captainr800 They were shown walking along the hull of the Enterprise indicating that they posses the ability to magnetize their feet or generate artificial gravity on their own. Additionally transporters are a thing, so if they're fine they would have been transported back aboard or tractor beamed. My point is, the entire Borg story-line went no where. The entire show was pointless. Artificial Intelligent Cthulhu Gods waiting for younger A.I.'s to call them to be saved... killing organics in the process? Why? Why not just stick around and kill the organics as they evolve? Why after being 'summoned' by the younger ones were they dismissed by the signal interruption instead of just popping through like "Here's Johnny!"? I propose that the Borg surviving and arriving would have shown the Cthulhu A.I. the ultimate expression of Organic and Synthetic merged into perfect unity. It makes for a better story than Picard's ending. Everything's fine because he made a call before the Romulans got there. Red Tape saved the day. Every major storypoint from the season was ripped off from better sources materials and canon was thrown out the window. Data's entire positronic brain being recreated from a single neuron (OOOOKAY, I'll rebuilt my computer with just a CPU pin to start from), Soong having a never before mentioned or heard of human child, Romulans being able to reach high level rank without someone once ever testing to see if they're Romulan or Vulcan (transporting once would have been enough to be discovered), The super secret Intelligent/secret police being the front for an even secret-er police force, The Federation needing a slave race when they have massive industrial replicators for menial tasks, Hell even the concept of ship yards on Mars instead of an orbiting facility where ships can be built in a micro gravity environment makes more sense... especially since most Federation ships don't land on planets. All of these things make no sense. They shit the bed hardcore in writing. Nothing made any sense. And most of it had been done better elsewhere.

You can make an argument that those Drones in first contact were specially equipped for that. It would be very borg'ish to only equip Drones with neccesary implants. Why else has the Cube an atmosphere? But you can call it bad writing aswell. As always it depends on your intentions. Do you want this series to work, or not? Both is perfectly reasonable for me. I'd like it to work, because I actually enjoyed it. Even though it was far from perfect. As TNG and Voyager and DS9 and the movies ... Discovery actually sucked in my oppinion, so I understand the feeling of not wanting a scene to work. To the Cthulhu AI God thing I'd just remind you of how the godlike Ori from another galaxy were unable to manifest their power in the Milky Way galaxy in Stargate, because the godlike ancients of the Milky Way didn't allow that. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a no interaction rule for super advanced species, similar to the first directive of Star Fleet. The Q continuum might want to have a word with them, if they wiped out organics actively. If lesser beings reached out to them and forcefully opened a gateway to this other dimention, leting them enter through some sort of backdoor it might be a different story. It's the intention thing again, it can work, but it doesn't have to and granted it doesn't make perfect sense on it's own.

Ha!

Those that approved the script should be fired!

Join the club!

Seriously. If they want the Romulans to have the upper hand after a battle fine but to just wake them up and throw them out the airlock without even seeing them in action for a moment? Real shame.

@dfctomm to be honest I don't think they were ever going to be able too keep the Borg as scary as they were.. not if they wanted to expand on them like they did. Maybe they just need to find a new threat to add that will generate a similar fear..

The cube isn't finished yet. The Borg will adapt.

@@William65536 The shame is that even 7 of 9 forgot borg can survive in space....and them being sucked out is a literal non issue...

The writer either doesn't know that, or thinks fans are too stupid to notice.

Worst case, even if they are expelled out into space, they can just be collected later and returned to the cube.

Their biological parts still need oxygen so yes they do need to breathe.

@@matt19norwich Not according to the rules of the Star Trek universe.

They just spread the borg virus across space. when one of these drones latches onto a ship in space. they will assimilate the ship and then start growing and assimilating more ships.

Could've been great!

100%

@@zAngus :)

Wasted by whining from fans really

This would have made for an absolutrly amazing story arc... Too bad the writers were more into Mass Effect than Star Trek. Still miles better than Discovery tho.

yea they could have really kicked things up a notch in the series. I feel it was a golden egg thrown in the trash

From what I have heard was their implants were removed. I guess those that were in stasis were not fully Borg, but could not survive being separated from the Hive mind. I don't know. This new Star Trek, aka Star Trash, is idiotic.

"If the continuum's told you once, they've told you a thousand times; DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG!"

I totally agree!

borg also survive in vacuum. (ST First Contact) easy for reactivated borg transporters to transport back onboard.. another fuckup by kurtzman & co.

Eh not such that they will die right out, but they do become useless to her cause jettisoning them into space.

@@talisredstar1543 Could have teleported them all back aboard in a couple seconds, but the story was crushed...

It's possible that the Borg in First Contact needed time to adapt their footing to the vacuum of space before going out onto the Enterprises hull. Here they were most likely caught off guard by the sudden loss of air pressure. Just a thought.

What are the Borg going to do after being ejected?

@@crylittlesister6377 An actually very well thought out point. This is likely what happened although they don't explain anything.

Remember when the NX-01 and it's crew managed to wipe out those both remnants. That was cool episode.

@@FOXCYBORGNINJA Pepperidge Farm remembers

most true comment ever

What I didnt understand is why did this cube even survive since janeway destroyed the queen and unimatrix one (this control centre for the entire cube) and how did seven use a transwarp corridor when then entire network was obliterated years earlier.

Also I don't think weve seen the last of the Borg, I've a sneaking suspicion that with guinene in the next series as well as seven it might have something to do with ending the collective once and for all

@@nessunday _Voyager_ didn't destroy the entire network, only the tunnel(s) it was using, to prevent Borg chasers. The rest of the network, while uncontrolled, is still probably intact and waiting to be discovered, the way Voyager found the Vaadwaur network. My sense is, given the Borg habit of redundancy, is that while there is no Borg Queen acting as focal point, nor lens (Unimatrix One) to focus with, it is quite likely that smaller sub-Collectives have emerged. And would probably duel with each other for supremacy. Cubes with high percentages of Dreamers (a la Unimatrix Zero) would individualize.

@@xheralt with respects most of what you said was dribble, the unimatrix zero dreamers did not last long and were wiped out. And seven literally said the transwarp network has been obliterated. And the collective United whole mini collectives would not start jockeying for power, as that goes against everything the Borg are.

Exactly! They walked on the hull of Enterprise E with no problems at all. Are the still just floating or what? So frustrating

yea kinda cool but Star trek ultimately is about mankinds hope and perseverence so seven would ultimately have to be a kind of blue print to liberated borg whove willingly chosen to serve in that capacity . and released once theyve done their bit. kind of a Liberated borg upgrade making them even stronger than their predecessor's because their will and self identity was preserved.

Yeah, this would have been a killer, but we got nothing at all.

Yeah, there's nothing new under the sun.

@Fiona Yeah, the Borg aren't the scary bad guys they used to be.

@Fiona they really did miss a lot of tricks with this. i was very surprised that they gave it a second season.

Ha! It sounds like you got OCD tendencies like I do!

Never saw part 2 of "Scorpion" did you.

@@ELFNY this and that are two different things. getting venting out of voyager would let their momentum carry them away. they can survive vacuum but they don't have jet packs. they have no way to get back onto an enemy ship. but venting them out of their own ship is somewhat questionable. if the cube had operable transporters then it should be possible to get them back

@@insertcognomen The problem was that the drones just woke up. This nullified the threat that they could otherwise pose if they hit an unwary Romulan ship. The transporters were probably also not working yet since Seven got barely started at reactivating the Artifact. This means that they were for most purposes lost until the issue of the Romulan fleet was dealt with.

By 50? 60 people?

She was the only reason why i kept watching that dumpster fire. almost all of the new cast was unlikable.

as she did for voyager

@@ML-yn9yu Well they have more personality than Geordi La Forge and Harry Kim. Who's characters almost entirely consist of fake relationships with holo deck characters and recommending to launch a magical energy beam from the deflector to rescue the ship. Also - in Geordi's case - rolling through the closting gate out of the machine deck as the last person dramatically short before the warp core had to be ejected for the 200th time.

@@Fotoschiki other than the captian rios, not really. Like I said, thank god seven of nine,will and troi popped up.

Good ideas like that are what the writers should be coming up with!

Maybe it's a bit stupid, but later it was shown, that the cube survived the crash, and started to self-repair. It would be a partly silly partly awesome sight if the cube could return to orbit.

@@ilyesistvan8331 Why return when it can simply assimilate the planet and be a planet size borg ship?

@@sashmiel6566 planet ship? Waste of resources. Strip mine the planet, make generators, launch new ships, use the planet as a staging ground for a new Borg node until you get your orbital elevator and other facilities up and running.

We need to get that across to the writers!

Was a perfect chance to get to see the Borg kick some ass. I was actually rooting for them, but then........ blah! Worst decision in a tv show EVER!

Yeah, most people aren't disappointed with her performance, but with the writing.

Very true.

You ain't kidding...

Are you still beautiful?

It is if it's in the script!

With her controlling only one cube, I think it's safer to call her a Borg Duchess rather than a Queen.

Back in the day, those cubes are the meanest b*tch you could ever find. At least until pimp hand arrived on the battlefield

@@yachiyous9110 No kidding. If you were unfortunate enough to run afoul of just one Borg cube in the early days, you were basically completely and utterly fucked, non questions asked.

nope. Starfleet jumping and captain riker have this scene beat. by a few hairs.

It's right up there!

Throwing the drones out was such a missed opportunity though. Seeing them as "protagonists" for a short time would have been great. Also they could have used the full "we re the borg" speech

They were until they could be defeated by the lamest TNG or voyager plot. They went from great menace to storm troopers all too quickly.

@Fiona Yes, thank the makers for that writers strike - - - - - -

You’re forgetting the Pakleds ... yeeees. We are Pakled.

They've always scared me even as a kid.

simple and normal from klutzman's viewpoint...his writing style is clear: do whatever is most dramatic. It doesn't have to make sense, follow decades of source material or even fit the plot...it just has to be dramatic. Why is Seven a lesbian, rather than writing in a new lesbian character...because it is more dramatic. Why did Seven murder a bunch of people, rather than ask Picard for his help to arrest the woman for her crimes...It's more dramatic. How did Riker, an acting captain, get the biggest, fastest and most powerful ship, plus an armada of starfleet ships...don't worry about it, it is more dramatic. I could go on, but you get the point. STD and STP have been HUGE disappointments for me. My son is 10yo, the age I was when I started watching TNG. But he doesn't have a star trek to grow up with. The "M" rating alone is part of the flaw in both shows.

@Tap Dome with preparation? thingnis we do not know, these drones had literally just opened their eyes and boom, So I think its fair to say they were not prepared.

Don't forget they can also survive atmospheric reentry (ENT: Regeneration)... or maybe 3 drones out of 1000 that were on that sphere can.

Takes control of a Borg Cube then gets trashed by a flower . Biggest load of shit ever seen . Picard was Hot Rubbish . Totally Fucking destroyed the NG series .

No queen no hivemind and no way to retrieve them

Ha!

I mean, it was less like "Sure why not" and more like "We really have no other choice. It's dangerous, but it's our only option."

Low budget Stark Technology

they had a groupon!

And then what happened? The Borg got sucked out of the cube, and she then immediately drove it into a planet like Stevie Wonder.

have souz seen her without makeup?

She is a fine woman

​@@pillepolle3122one can only hope.

The whole series was honestly :(

@J F And likely willingly too depending on the outlying circumstances. This could've been a new faction of Willing Borg if fleshed out properly. Willing Borg. That's a twist that writes itself.

@Tin Watchman it was. The effing show was called "Picard" 1 season in the books and Im still waiting to see if Picard is going to make an appearance. A Sevenn Borg queen plot they just toss in the trash. A convoluted andriod planet that made absolutely no sence... and the picard-droid ending was lazy writing at best. The characters are shallow and uninteresting.. and while I did like the Data sendoff did bring a tear, it was a big fucking build up just to see him die again. Not to mention, its based on a relationship Data and Picard never really had. It had its moments, but it was bad. It was really really bad.

I just realized that 7 left with Picard and the gang , so the ship must still be on Coppelius. That could make for some interesting writing.

Yes, it's because the writers are only interested in pyrotechnics and not coherent storytelling.

Captain Picard really needed Space Ship Punching Gloves that can punch at Warp Speed. "Engage Warp speed punch!" And then he punches the Borg Cube, and punched Ambassador Tomalok, and punches that Romulan with the ancient Vulcan weapon, and punches Vaj, and punches Thayd Harconan, he just keeps punching till everyone has been punched, then when there is nobody left - he still has one punch left in the chamber for himself.

@@SlatheTheSpaceMarine Mmm, okay. It's a better script than the one the Picard writers were able to cobble together.

And then everything is blown out of the window. :(

The Borg made for the hands down, best episodes of Star Trek NG "Best of Both Worlds" pt. 1 & 2

imagine showing this on tv to the people back in 1970 would they shit them selves by how realistic it looks to everything else of the time? I think yes

@@raven4k998 even 10 years ago this would have blown their minds

@@orlandoalessandrini2505 yeah but not as much as in the 1970's cause tv was much much newer tech then

@@raven4k998 agreed

Ha! Good one!

lmao " we are bored, lets kill everybody " ,,,,=^oo^=,,,, plight of the North American Native people

the Borg don't assimilate inferior tech...

The cube was being studied and is partially dismantled. As a precaution. It's likely all the defenses and offensive capabilities were deactivated. The drones were severed from the collective with implants removed.

Ha!

A continuation of voyager would be great, but we got this

@@ProfessorArt1 First time I've heard that!

May she reign in season 2

So why did she do this atrocity

Join the club!

Mr wish the drones had helped save the day

Assimilate them so we can use them, then let 'em go after we win!

Even good Romulans can be very pragmatic. Also, having been raised in an otherwise all-female order, he is used to trusting in women.

I didn't like that either.. lol

Pretty sure that's how the entire writer's room on this show worked.

Stark technology

You'll always have that moment! :)

Hmm...

*Cough cough* GOHAN *cough* buu saga

worste actor Sistko

Sisko was NOT a part of "STNG".

They've waited so long for this day For someone to take the death away No son would ever have to say "My father worked into his grave" Men sleep tonight with hands of bone They will awake with hands of steel And with these hands, we will destroy And with these hands, we will rebuild And we will stand above our city Rising high above her streets From tops of buildings, we will look At all that lies beneath our feet And we will raise our hands above us Cold steel shining in the sun And with these hands that will not bleed Your father's battle will be won!

So reduced to convinant villains when the plot needs twist 😂🤣

That seems to be unanimous!

Trying to imagine Rayden saying, "Fartin' around," is pretty comical.

@@blujay1608 Yep and you know he would refuse to say the contraction, he would say "farting around "

A lot of waste potential

And also how to use Borg nano-probes to cure Picard.

If I remember correctly that particular implant can not be removed or tampered with much or it would disable or kill her. Also 7 may want to keep it as a part of her. It's been a peice of her for a very long time.