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7 of the Biggest Watch Collecting Myths - Watches as Investments, Grail Watches & More 

Teddy Baldassarre
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@josephpage3635
@josephpage3635 3 года назад
As a watchmaker I often say; it all starts with an interest, it becomes a passion and ends up becoming a mental illness. While Im supposed to be the doctor, I'm just as sick as my patients!
@ericfreutel8240
@ericfreutel8240 Год назад
🤡
@ItsRawdraft2
@ItsRawdraft2 Год назад
@@ericfreutel8240 🤓🤓🤓
@TRUYORK718
@TRUYORK718 Год назад
Yea I read that book too 😆
@ДаданДаданский
100%!
@harri4208
@harri4208 Год назад
i just started and have the feeling i landed instant in phase 3.
@ryanshorts339
@ryanshorts339 3 года назад
Teddy: "Only 3 main brands will accrue value.." Me looking at the Casio 5600 on my wrist: "Shh Shh he doesnt mean it, you're priceless.."
@natrick
@natrick 2 года назад
Gotta love the 5600
@AkiraHDR50
@AkiraHDR50 7 месяцев назад
Same with my AE 1200.
@stephenbridges2791
@stephenbridges2791 3 года назад
I'll say this. I'm probably one of your older viewers. In my late 60's. I can't foresee any scenario where I would get an "exit" watch. If I understand what you are saying; I can't see myself NOT open to acquiring another watch. Just too much fun to be had.
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 3 года назад
Completely agree with the movement myth. I'm happy buying watches with seiko, miyota, ETA and Sellita calibres knowing I can get them serviced easily without having to send them across the world for silly amounts of money. Those watches don't have any less kudos for me, it just means I can enjoy wearing them more without issues in the long run, therefore creating more memories with it.
@watchingwatches5722
@watchingwatches5722 3 года назад
100%
@alfieakaronaldog
@alfieakaronaldog 3 года назад
How many have you had serviced then? Let me guess, zero right? 🧐
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 3 года назад
@@alfieakaronaldog had to send a Hamilton back for movement repair. When each of them need a service, they will get it. Thanks for your valued contribution.
@bdegrds
@bdegrds 3 года назад
Not true. I have had all kinds of watches. Nothing seizes up faster than a Seiko in my experience. Luxury brands with nice in house movements simply last longer and need less maintenance.
@garyboyle695
@garyboyle695 3 года назад
@@bdegrds Not really, they just aren't worn as often as they sit in a bank vault so no wear and tear.
@bxtrc1341
@bxtrc1341 3 года назад
Material possessions will not complete you: Teddy B bringing the mystical philosophy
@nike8-8
@nike8-8 4 месяца назад
And it is just a watch ⌚️
@ABlochead
@ABlochead 3 года назад
Agree on 6 of 7. I don't think 95%+ of people can see the visual difference between crystal types, but sapphire's durability is legit. Yes, it costs more, but you can get aftermarket sapphire for sub $200, so I would expect any watch over $1000 to have sapphire
@BHNEOH
@BHNEOH 3 года назад
This is a public service video for all watch enthusiasts, especially those that rmare just starting to get deeper into the rabbit hole.
@sanghoonlee5171
@sanghoonlee5171 3 года назад
I agree that there's no such thing as an exit watch. What you want is not the last watch you will buy, but a collection rounded enough that you have the right watch for each occasion--including that knockout grail piece that's the 🍒 on top.
@Safeway_Sage
@Safeway_Sage 3 года назад
Yep, any aspirational material good will only satisfy for a limited amount of time.
@Olddirtytiger
@Olddirtytiger 3 года назад
I just need a few grails now
@watchingwatches5722
@watchingwatches5722 3 года назад
Agree
@mannycalavera2335
@mannycalavera2335 3 года назад
I think the problem is people are looking for contentment by buying things. But contentment is only reached by you yourself taking a different perspective when it comes to material items. We keep rinning after that carrot not knowing nothing we will ever buy will satisfy us in the way we hope.
@sanghoonlee5171
@sanghoonlee5171 3 года назад
@@mannycalavera2335 Oh definitely. For 5 years I wore my Omega Seamaster happily. Then I added a Reverso--and IMMEDIATELY I wanted a 3rd watch. And then 4th and 5th. At some point you gotta exercise restraint and say enough is enough, and not buy another watch unless you sell one to make room for it in the collection.
@watchrunner80
@watchrunner80 3 года назад
Grail watches are great and all that like a juicy t bone steak but sometimes you just want a fast food burger
@dannemannen18
@dannemannen18 3 года назад
Damn. That's a good analogy
@stavrosmaiden
@stavrosmaiden 3 года назад
Words of wisdom
@casualsuede
@casualsuede 3 года назад
My friend said the exact same thing long time ago....just replace the words "Grail Watches are" with "My Wife is".
@huckinator
@huckinator 2 года назад
@@casualsuede 🤣🤣🤣
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 года назад
Teddy, Is it bad if I’m shopping for the next watch before I've even received the one I just ordered? Thanks.
@rmoore6858
@rmoore6858 3 года назад
~7:17 "Switzerland makes the best watches, now let's be franc" nicely done!
@rohangangan8327
@rohangangan8327 3 года назад
This video is going into my playlist of one of the most detailed and beautifully made Watch videos! Thanks Teddy!!
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre 3 года назад
Thank you Rohan!
@thovie123
@thovie123 3 года назад
Would you say this is your grail watch video?
@toddsmith8608
@toddsmith8608 2 года назад
Only problem is all the nice watches Teddy showed that I suddenly need.
@rickfanning5647
@rickfanning5647 3 года назад
I really appreciated the discussion about different crystals. That’s one I had accepted without much thought. One benefit of getting into my 50’s is that I can’t really see the scratches anymore. That also seems to correlate with how date windows keep “shrinking,” even on watches I’ve owned for years.
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 года назад
Think about this: if a mineral crystal scratches badly, all I have to do is replace the crystal. If a sapphire crystal shatters, what else might need expensive replacement, such as the dial and/or hands and indices?
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 года назад
Also, I like that acrylic box crystals actually flex, which is what they are designed to do. I always found sapphire box crystals to be analogous to those cars from the '70s that had phony "convertible" canvas tops that didn't go down; all the look with none of the function.
@alemspreco
@alemspreco 3 года назад
said to friend ( who owns a submariner ) that i was looking to either by a sinn 556 or step up a bit and get the oris aquis. first thing he says is "is it going to increase in value?" I nearly slapped him
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre 3 года назад
The best investment watch for x amount of dollars always frustrates me a bit. Can’t lie..
@justincheng6195
@justincheng6195 3 года назад
I’ve gotten similar comments when I’ve said how much I really like the new zenith chronomasters. It’s really annoying how people think everything revolves around Rolex and the other brands.
@MarioGonzalez-yq3gw
@MarioGonzalez-yq3gw 3 года назад
Not a bad thing to consider but I totally get what you mean. You need to be happy for the friend who's getting a new watch!
@davidjulien1474
@davidjulien1474 3 года назад
I bought my Seiko SNZH55 (fifty five fathoms for $130 a few years ago. It now goes over double that on ebay. Suck it, Rolex.
@christophersmith108
@christophersmith108 3 года назад
About the only thing that I like less than Rolex watches are Rolex snobs. The former are cliches, the latter are victims of advertising. Remember - 'style' is the collection of attributes that render someone unique, 'fashion' is the collection of items purchasable by those who lack style.
@RobertFalconer1967
@RobertFalconer1967 3 года назад
"After a time, you may find that 'having' is not so pleasing a thing after all as 'wanting.' It is not logical, but it is often true."
@SousTerre1
@SousTerre1 3 года назад
Literally everything in my life beside my kid. But even sometimes him.
@Ptrmndza
@Ptrmndza 3 года назад
🖖
@indyjoe36ify
@indyjoe36ify 3 года назад
Live long and prosper
@scaol9658
@scaol9658 3 года назад
The Speedy never failed me. Sundial with imperfections, amazing really
@DesertObserver491
@DesertObserver491 7 месяцев назад
That dopamine fix
@ryanwithacapitalB
@ryanwithacapitalB 3 года назад
Loving your videos, especially being a watch noob. How wholesome your discussions & explanation are, taking various factors into play, even psychological perspective. Learning so much from it.
@looseunit1615
@looseunit1615 3 года назад
I can't afford any of the top tier luxury watch brands. All of my watches are sub 1000 USD and I won't sell any of them. I wear all of them regularly.
@tonyochoa7097
@tonyochoa7097 3 года назад
Yeah,me too
@johnlongnecker8776
@johnlongnecker8776 3 года назад
As Teddy said, in the end it’s just a watch. If you enjoy it then that’s all that matters!
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 3 года назад
You get the best bang for buck that way. Well done. Enjoy.
@asianguitarmasta
@asianguitarmasta 3 года назад
I've owned a few expensive watches, but I still appreciate the sub $1K pieces. In fact, I recently acquired a Seiko Dark Manta Samurai and I haven't felt that giddy about a watch in a while. I'm at a phase where I prefer to find the best quality for the lowest price.
@bettersteps
@bettersteps 3 года назад
@@asianguitarmasta For great quality for the price I alway push a Citizen Promaster. Built like a tanks. You'll never need to replace batteries on the quartz watches and the automatics have great Miyota movements. Never spent more than $1000. Great watches.
@Thiago-qt3tw
@Thiago-qt3tw 3 года назад
Great video! I have 2 other myths for you. First is “dress watches are dead” the second is “complications are always a good thing”.
@twang96
@twang96 3 года назад
I had a good chuckle when some people thought the recently discontinued omega moon watch was going to appreciate now that a new version is out.
@Andrew.W75
@Andrew.W75 3 года назад
In the UK you can still buy the old 1861 version new at retail price
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 3 года назад
A great summary Teddy. The one that annoys me the most is the 'investment' part, I by watches to wear for myself, once purchased I do not intend to sell regardless of make. The crystal type as another, depending on the watch and it's intended use different materials have different benefits. I also take into account servicing when making a purchase.
@johanvandersandt8904
@johanvandersandt8904 3 года назад
If watches give you joy then then that is a good investment.
@jtlast9600
@jtlast9600 3 года назад
^ happiness. Not joy. In my opinion
@marcd7332
@marcd7332 3 года назад
@@mkphilly I don’t “need” a chronograph or a dive watch, I like how they look, simple as that.
@johanvandersandt8904
@johanvandersandt8904 3 года назад
@@jtlast9600 It if makes you smile every time you look at it that is a good deal regardless of price.
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 3 года назад
@@johanvandersandt8904 completely agree. As long as you aren't going into debt, buy any watch you love if it catches your eye
@watchingwatches5722
@watchingwatches5722 3 года назад
Exactly
@darylwardsnyder4406
@darylwardsnyder4406 3 года назад
As always, you’ve done your homework and delivered your fact finding with the efficiency of a Quartz Grand Seiko (5 seconds a year). As one with over a dozen watch winders (Orbita Sparta 1’s) I’m curious whether that was money well spent. I have 20 watches in my collection, so no one watch gets worn consistently (with the exception of the newest one!). Do watches need to be on wonders when unworn? Are they helping the watches by keeping the lubricants moving? Or are they wearing them out sooner; thereby, requiring service sooner? Lastly, is it okay to wind automatic watches, not kept on winders, as if they are hand wound? I’ve been winding my automatics not on winders. Thanks, Teddy, and keep the passion coming!! Daryl Ward Snyder
@esang394
@esang394 2 года назад
I have the same questions. hope someone answers. :)
@frag4007
@frag4007 Год назад
I cannot answer anything but the last. Automatic watches can be wound by hand and that is preferred if it ran out. As to wether it damages a watch to keep it running i would not know
@jackahler7170
@jackahler7170 2 года назад
Excellent as usual Teddy, " buy what you like, if go's up in value or down your stuck with something you like."and that collecting 101.
@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 3 года назад
Fair play to you for discussing the "investment" angle of watches. Like you said the boom is only five to ten years old. I've heard dealers claim steel Rolex were always a solid return in the used market. Total BS. Hell, you could get discounts in new examples. I'm old enough to have been collecting "old watches" before they became "vintage collectables" 🙂 And I can tell you they weren't. In general auctions I attended pre the interwebs about the only watches that got attention were the precious metal examples, brand didn't really matter and two tone Rolex were the preserve of dodgy user car salesmen in shiny suits. 🙂 The current boom is just that current. It's driven by the perception of rarity, some dealers and a fair percentage of buyers who flip watches constantly barely taking them out of the box for the instagram shot. I remember a boom in the 90's around early Rolex Oysters and Bubblebacks. They were the vintage must haves for many. And near overnight they weren't.
@ams914
@ams914 3 года назад
With vintage though, the perception of scarcity is very much real. So I'm not sure I can envision pre-ceramic Rolexes decreasing in value. I can see them plateauing perhaps at some point (not that soon), but that's going to assume demand doesn't continue to rise while scarcity does. I'm looking for a birth year no date sub, and my watch guy has seven people ahead of me in line for one. They're never going to make that watch again, and people aren't interesting in flipping them anymore. They're just holding onto to them, which means scarcity is going up even further.
@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 3 года назад
@@ams914 Oh that's part of it alright, but again fashion comes into it. Like I say early Rolex Oysters were a "hot" ticket in the vintage world and today you pretty much never hear about them. They barely sell and when they do it's at much lower values than back then and that's over twenty years ago. The "pre ceramic" tag itself is a current trend. Other issues are like you say non flipping actual collectors are holding onto stock, as are newer "investors" and dealers looking to ride the wave, so the market stagnates, because fewer and fewer people are willing to spend on the ones that do come up. This discourages newbies into the hobby. I've seen that with vintage military watches. Once they were a tiny very niche thing and pretty cheap. Then they were cool hunted by the hodinkees of the world and the two hundred quid pieces became 1000 and more and the supply was constrained. Then the same hodinkee type dealers started looking around to cool hunt less well known and desireable niches, because they were running out of stock to sell. 15 years ago 70's style vintage watches with a few exceptions were deeply unfashionable and now... You can see it on ebay over time. Niche hobby stage = lots of items for sale, prices reasonable, mostly auctions. Cool hunted and go mainstream= prices rise, more dealers and "investors" get involved more BIN listings. High watermark = high prices, nearly all dealers, few enough selling and majority BIN. Endgame = stagnant market. Brands come and go in popularity too. Ten years ago IWC were much more in vogue. Now, not nearly so much. TAG were huge at one point. Now they're a poor cousin, even derided. Not so long ago AP, PP etc were rarely seen on forums and the like, now they're all over the place. Franck Muller were extremely fashionable once and considerd top tier and now... Dress watches were once the thing, today... Moonphases were big too. Once. If you look at new/grey market Rolex today. Go onto Chrono24 and you can pick pretty much whatever "rare" steel Rolex you want, you just have to pay for it. They're actually not that rare at all. These aren't grand master artworks, they're mass produced consumer items, made in the millions per year. Just crazy prices driven by the market. marketing and flippers and dealers and the hype. Actual vintage is rarer alright, but as you say demand is high at the moment.
@ams914
@ams914 3 года назад
@@MrGrentch I think your logic all works, until you start applying it to vintage. Rolex has not diminished in popularity since it began. And newbies aren't supposed to buy 10k watches anyway, so it's not for them. I'm not sure what you mean about Rolex Oysters, but I'm guessing they came in 34mm case sizes. That's too small for modern watches, hence those models are not valuable. But anything in 40 still is, and the older the more valuable. Again, the only thing that can lower the value of vintage models is a lowering in demand for them, and since Rolex is the most notable and most equitable brand in the world, I don't see that happening unless mechanical watches as WHOLE are no longer desired, and I think we actually see the opposite happening, and a lot of that has to do with smart watches that got people used to time-telling devices on their wrist.
@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 3 года назад
@@ams914 That's the thing Ams(and I do take your points on board), Rolex until the 1960's was almost entirely a brand of Britain and her empire/commonwealth. Look up American or European periodicals before that and the brand barely features, or doesn't feature at all. They have "Superlative Chronometer" on their dials(a trademark of theirs), but in the _actual_ Chronometer trials of the 20th century a "no name" brand of today like Movado blew them into the weeds and Omega, Longines and Zenith won more prizes in _one year_ at random than Rolex won in the _entire history_ of those trials(longines won the most). Seiko in the latter years made them look like bumpkins. Their movements were lacklustre, though tough, they couldn't do complications to save their lives and they bought in chronograph movements(though with the exception of Longines that was common enough. The Omega Speedy was a Lemania IIRC). They innovated... well I struggle to think of a major Swiss brand who innovated _less_ than Rolex. First waterproof/diver/modern diver/GMT/Date window/Automatic/Screwdown crown/etc All nope. Marketing? By God, yes. Hans Wilsdorf was a true giant of marketing and spotting and exploiting a market and that's an innovation and kudos in of itself and he was at that from the start and they learned well at his feet. Right down to today. TLDR? You're buying into the name. And that's a thing too and fair enough, but that's about it, or at least most of it.
@ams914
@ams914 3 года назад
@@MrGrentch I don't agree at all, which is fine, but all of this is off-topic. Your opinion of the brand itself has no bearing on its marketplace value or your claims about why the value of vintage models will decline. I don't think you laid out a case for that. I don't see a lowering of desired vintage models in value for decades, if not even longer.
@dannymartial7997
@dannymartial7997 Год назад
Another thing, “hand crafted” doesn’t mean some guy is making the entire watch with hand tools. The Grand Seiko dials with the scratchy metal surfaces, that wasn’t made by some Japanese guy with a metal pick, hand-carving the texture onto each watch. The texture is just stamped onto the metal with a hydraulic press
@zavensaroyan5388
@zavensaroyan5388 3 года назад
“After all, it’s just a watch.” Well said, Teddy.
@TRUYORK718
@TRUYORK718 Год назад
That's how watch addicts usually talk.. Denial
@tylerjames646
@tylerjames646 3 года назад
I would like a part two in this series for sure! Can't think of any suggestions off the top of my head though lol
@The_Red_Comet
@The_Red_Comet 2 года назад
"Now let's be Franc, Swiss pedigree in the world of watchmaking is hard to beat" Intended pun? :P
@michaelniemer4449
@michaelniemer4449 3 года назад
Great video, thank you, Teddy, for putting this together! The crystal conversation spoke to me the most. Being a clumsy oaf, I seek the sapphire for durability. You have opened my mind to the other durable options that will bring a new visual experience to my watch enjoyment, and perhaps only need the occasional polish with a service here and there.
@9er..
@9er.. 3 года назад
Wow man… killer vid. You totally watch geeked out too!!! Listen to yourself. Really appreciated your passion and love of the hobby in this one.
@AllTheHandlesTaken
@AllTheHandlesTaken 3 месяца назад
I like how you started talking about grail watches and then showed that El Primero Chronomaster Sport. That was a "grail" of mine for a while. Then I got one. I'm extraordinarily pleased with it. Obviously, as a watch collector, nothing will ever suffice as an exit piece, but that one is among my favorites.
@dultanur
@dultanur 3 года назад
All your points are excellent and I wholly agree with them all. You get an extra gold star for the perfect watch selections for the B roll, super on point. I try to avoid watch channels who also sell watches, but you my friend are a great exception to that rule, keep up the great work!
@demetrist8537
@demetrist8537 3 года назад
Your videos are getting better and better, quality content. Very well articulated, spot-on points and it's very refreshing to see watch reviewers not banging on about rolex, rolex, rolex all the time to get more views; but rather talk about it as it really is.
@FrankLavoy
@FrankLavoy 3 года назад
Great insight about the “Grail/Exit” watch. I think we all think it but truly know in our hearts that it will never be enough (I’m thinking of JOMW). Thanks for sharing.
@WG55
@WG55 3 года назад
As many say, it is as elusive as getting "one last tattoo" or "just one more piercing."
@tonyochoa7097
@tonyochoa7097 3 года назад
I have eight,haven't bought one in a while,and will probably never by another.Folding kives are another matter-have around thirty,and I keep running across someting new I want,thankfully they're not as expensive, most of mine are 100-300 dollars
@HorologyinSanity
@HorologyinSanity 3 года назад
imho, Teddy, this is one of the best videos you've ever made! The amount of nonsense floating around as fact is kinda nuts. Please do a Part 2 and/or more stuff like this.
@914Rocky
@914Rocky 3 года назад
Great video. Excellent points all. Regarding the crystal, for me it’s all about the scratches. I love love love not having to worry about getting any.
@brifiveo
@brifiveo 3 года назад
Teddy, grew up in medina now live in Kent. So glad there is a powerhouse watch reviewer in Cleveland!!
@dave7500
@dave7500 3 года назад
On the note of the "exit watch", I would agree that it is somewhat a fantasy from a collectors view, but not for those who buy a watch for its intended use. I would respectfully counter that it can be true for those looking for watches as tools, as in a watch to fill a purpose. For example if I needed a impact wrench to do a job, once I get a good impact wrench, I'm not looking for another one. Just my thought though.
@ToneyDouglas23
@ToneyDouglas23 3 года назад
I never understood the outrage over movements running fast/slow. It’s not like in 2021 we buy them to ACTUALLY tell the time. Yes, if a watch is expensive it should be accurate. But my Breitling Premier 40 which is cosc certified, loses about 10 seconds a day, and I don’t care lol. Im wearing it because of my love for the hobby and the craftsmanship of watchmaking, not for the accuracy.
@Sam-ob1yg
@Sam-ob1yg 3 года назад
It's not quite because of the accuracy itself just for the sake of knowing the exact time, but because of the craftsmanship behind the accuracy. It takes craftsmanship and engineering to be accurate.
@ToneyDouglas23
@ToneyDouglas23 3 года назад
@@Sam-ob1yg I see what you’re saying. Patek has incredible craftsmanship along with accuracy. But then you have AP with incredible watches and unique movements that aren’t even as accurate as Rolex or Omega, even though AP is much more expensive. But personally I would take an AP over Rolex or Omega anyday.
@Sam-ob1yg
@Sam-ob1yg 3 года назад
@@ToneyDouglas23 Yeah exactly. It's like in cars: comfort vs straight line performance vs handling performance vs off-roading. They are just different dimensions of engineering problems, and you can bet that they all require extreme effort. If I may add, the even more (or just another) beautiful part is that these engineering problems often pose mutual exclusive goals (e.g. luxury costs weight/space, but that necessarily hurts other performance aspects), so solving multiple of these at the same time (albeit not as perfectly as one that would solve just one) is also beautiful to some people. Where that balance should fall is usually up to the beholder, so people aren't just being polite when they say it usually comes to personal "preference". It really is in fact personal preference (usually).
@Sam-ob1yg
@Sam-ob1yg 3 года назад
e.g. something as simple as making leather blue was an engineering marvel in the past, I bet. We take them for granted now, but if I really take a moment to try to do it myself from scratch, I wouldn't know where to begin.
@Sam-ob1yg
@Sam-ob1yg 3 года назад
And taking even one more step back, engineering/craftsmanship isn't all that brings value either. Looks are important too. At the end of the day, it's pretty simple IMO: does it make you smile.
@Fcyhcfyc
@Fcyhcfyc 2 года назад
Kinda late to comment, but this is video that Everyone closing the rabbit hole should watch and take notes. Thank you Teddy with family name of a Vampire dinasty) staying true enthusiast, depsite owning a business, unlike many others, who claim space in this niche! Best!
@chrisdavis8399
@chrisdavis8399 3 года назад
Hey Teddy. On an unrelated topic, I love dress/sport watches with the small second hand dial. Would you consider doing a video on your faves? I know you’ve done one on watches with moon phases. Cheers!
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 3 года назад
I'm a sucker for small seconds as well, I have the Stowa marine 36, Hamilton khaki navy pioneer, and an Orient Star heritage gothic. Also just ordered a Dekla marine. Teddy sure didn't lie when he said there is no exit watch!
@chrisdavis8399
@chrisdavis8399 3 года назад
Haha! Indeed! Thanks and I’ll have a look at those!
@vascosaldanha602
@vascosaldanha602 3 года назад
Omega recently released an aqua Terra small seconds line
@chrisdavis8399
@chrisdavis8399 3 года назад
@@shanephillips8735 Thanks so much for the Hamilton Khaki Navy Pioneer! Just ordered one...it’s awesome!
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 3 года назад
@@chrisdavis8399 Nice one mate, enjoy in good health 🤙
@prao4166
@prao4166 3 года назад
Great , High quality content. Love the attention to movement performance. Only channel that really gets into the weeds on this. Very useful.
@bariizlam638
@bariizlam638 2 года назад
Man, I've learned so much about watches watching your videos! you have great knowledge regarding watches and your enthusiasm is inspiring! thanks man. Also, I totally agree with the first myth regarding watches being an investment.
@ralphus555
@ralphus555 3 года назад
I love how worked up people (especially some RU-vid reviewers) get over dive watches that don't have a diver's extension... As if...
@danielrs9214
@danielrs9214 3 года назад
Now that I live outside the US, I’m starting to appreciate a lot more third party movements, an ETA or similar can save you a lot of money, time and headaches!
@Marmots4reFun
@Marmots4reFun 3 года назад
Excellent video; especially discussion of the “gotta have it” sickness that repeatedly afflicts us poor lemmings. We’re so susceptible to the ecosystem of triggering stimuli from print to video that drives the behavior; playing in the sandbox at different levels, reveling in our toys and show and tell.
@joeblackwolf17
@joeblackwolf17 2 года назад
Love your videos and your knowledge and fact you launched a business centred around your passion. Great job ! Keep it going
@JM.TheComposer
@JM.TheComposer 10 месяцев назад
In an industry of presumption, I appreciate the practicality of your views.
@timdean-smith1967
@timdean-smith1967 2 года назад
It's pretty refreshing to hear someone trying to sell things talk about the insatiable nature of consumerism. Respect.
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I always learn a lot from your videos. Very well done and I look forward to Part 2.
@michelfortier9563
@michelfortier9563 2 года назад
Great video! It's so obvious you're very knowledgeable about watches. You keep on ticking without stopping. The info just flows naturally meaning you obviously have a love for watches......
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 3 года назад
If you want a highly accurate mechanical watch you need Spring Drive.
@casualsuede
@casualsuede 3 года назад
I would add to number 1 with the comment around "value". Too many youtubers add the concept of value to 5k, 10k even 20k watches. IMO, the value proposition falls drastically after a certain price point and it just becomes an OBJECT OF DESIRE.
@俊毅陳-v6p
@俊毅陳-v6p 3 года назад
Legend says the Casio G-Shock is stronger than the Nokia 3310, wish someone can test that out.
@noel6764
@noel6764 3 года назад
check out this channel by Nico Leonard - he tried to destroy a G-Shock in one of his videos
@alexc.3727
@alexc.3727 3 года назад
This assumption has been tested already. Have you heard of the Big Bang?
@FF04RDF
@FF04RDF Год назад
Great video. Love your approach and attitude. No snobbery which is very refreshing.
@King-ru9ve
@King-ru9ve 3 года назад
I can see teddy playing the lowkey evil villain 😅 “this won’t be the last time they here of Teddy Baldassarre” *laughs evilly”
@edwardbakker2571
@edwardbakker2571 3 года назад
I always like your sensible and well balanced videos, Teddy. Many thanks
@trabun
@trabun 3 года назад
the term "grail watch" for me means a watch that i currently hold at great personal value that i currently do not possess. right now, that would be the omega aquaterra. it most def will not be the "end watch" for me, but rather the current summit i am trying to reach.
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 3 года назад
Not a grail watch, that’s just the next watch you want to buy. There was only one holy grail, it’s lost to time, people go on quests to find it, all have failed ( apart from from Indiana Jones) 😁😁 they didn’t find it and then say, right what’s the next grail to tick off the list this week. Grail watch is the One, the watch to end all watches, the watch you would sell your first born to own, a watch so rare or expensive you will probably never own it. It’s not a watch you fancy and could just whack on your credit card.
@fan-jo2je
@fan-jo2je 3 года назад
What a great educational video teddy! So true about exit watch there is always another watch it never ends. I love the hobby and the hunt.
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann 3 года назад
Very interesting! Grail watches remind me of the “objet a” after Lacan. The unattainable object of desire
@klaassiersma4892
@klaassiersma4892 3 года назад
I own a hesalite speedy, it was my grail watch for a long time, i wear it nearly dayly and it's accurate enough, i set it once a week or so and i love how the hesalite looks it gives me great plesure wearing the thing.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 года назад
In my experience, and that of people I know, collecting is a constant struggle to acquire "examples" of whatever one is collecting. Whether it's watches, Beanie Babies, baseball cards, or in my case, saxophones, there's always another one out there, and the collector will never be satisfied.
@davidcrandall4958
@davidcrandall4958 Год назад
The powermatic Movements defy every point Teddy has made about movements! For the price,they cost much more for any kind of service than Teddy has listed! keep this in mind,when you buy one!
@TwentyOne_Five
@TwentyOne_Five 3 года назад
Very strong video teddy. Very insightful and covering a lot of great ground.
@Gumby56
@Gumby56 3 года назад
Great learning video, spot on information, looking forward to another!
@wisfanatic
@wisfanatic 3 года назад
I just purchased a 2021 exit watch. That works for me. January 1, 2022 can't come soon enough lol.
@zynetik
@zynetik 3 года назад
I've actually regulated an NH35 to run almost perfect while not in use, dial up and to +5 when worn but if i let the power reserve run down to its limits it actually runs like -6. Not COSC standards but quite there.
@1018Frankie
@1018Frankie 3 года назад
Excellent video and explanation! I hope that this clarifies those myths for a lot of people because I encounter them every day in our community. I would like to see a follow up video to this one. Keep the good work my friend!
@24934637
@24934637 2 года назад
Excellent videos, thank you! My interest in watches has only recently been sparked, and I'm enjoying learning from your vids.
@seayak
@seayak 2 года назад
Terrific, thanks. The common-sense and evidence-based approach is much appreciated!
@d.j.ashley
@d.j.ashley Год назад
Water resistance craziness is even more ridiculous when you realize the recreational limit for diving is 120ft so, 35-40 meters. Technical divers and saturation divers go much deeper but they also use computers and not watches unless it's an extreme redundancy scenario. Even then, the backup is a second computer, not a watch. It's a flex, nothing more.
@nessilian
@nessilian 3 года назад
add to "waterresistence": Someone, who is into diving takes a "diving computer" not a watch. To dive with a luxury watch is a myth.
@seannotaro473
@seannotaro473 3 года назад
Great topics to discuss.....especially on the grail side of watch collecting
@tommay3597
@tommay3597 3 года назад
Great video. I love that you are sharing your knowledge, thank you.
@mwojciak
@mwojciak 3 года назад
About WR - common myth is 100m WR is necessary for swimming. Which is incorrect. 5atm is perfectly suitable for swimming. I remember when I bought IWC with 6atm, I was a little concerned about using in pool or sea. But then I looked to the manual. And IWC claims that 6atm is for swimming, period. So if the brand claims that you can swim with it, why should I question it?
@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 3 года назад
Very much so. Given we're talking about myths the WR static pressure versus swimming or whatever is one of the biggest ones and it's repeated here. Which surprised me tbh. To increase the pressure on a watch when swimming you're wrists would be slicing through the water so quickly you'd be out swimming dolphins. 🙂 Even then the pressure would be small in increase. If a watch is _actually_ passed as 30 metres WR it is perfectly fine for swimming.
@mwojciak
@mwojciak 3 года назад
@@MrGrentch you are so right. Even someone with basic understanding of physics should know that to produce 5atm presure, just with your hand movement, under water is simply impossible. In my pre-internet age of collecting watches I was taking my 3atm Castios everywhere, and never had any problem.
@Andrew.W75
@Andrew.W75 3 года назад
There is a very interesting video on the 'Beyond the Press' channel where a Vostok Amphibia & two other watches are tested to 3000m of equivalent depth, the results are interesting, these watches are more resistant to water than you might think!
@chrishine8699
@chrishine8699 3 года назад
Great video but I almost cried when there was an ad for Vincero before it…
@MarioGonzalez-yq3gw
@MarioGonzalez-yq3gw 3 года назад
Not really a myth, but I find it hilarious when people that have never owned a nice watch mock the No-date submariner. It has become the whipping boy of the watch world for some reason. Totally okay to prefer the date version, but I don't understand the hate there.
@dovydasgrigas441
@dovydasgrigas441 3 года назад
Its pretty shitty, but its a reaction to people who buy those watches as investments and scoff at other watches which "wont hold their value".
@terencekoh6296
@terencekoh6296 3 года назад
wait what's wrong with a NDS
@Smittenz1
@Smittenz1 3 года назад
Don't mind the watch, Rolex is Rolex and the Submariners date or no date are iconic there is a reason there are so many Homages of that line. I just don't bother remarking on them when I see them in the flesh anymore because many owners don't know what they have, they just bought Rolex because it is Rolex.
@peterashton5941
@peterashton5941 3 года назад
Great video. Many thanks for encouraging us to stop and have a re-think. Take care and stay safe 👍🏼
@thisoldbelair
@thisoldbelair 2 года назад
Great video. I really enjoyed this. Especially your positive view on acrylic. As a proud Timex marlin auto owner, it was nice to hear. Your honesty and level-headed approach to this is why I subbed and why I bought my Marlin from you. Cheers man 🇺🇸
@Mahatma618
@Mahatma618 2 года назад
I think that this is your best video yet.Very well done,and great points.
@patpatterson6073
@patpatterson6073 3 года назад
Just a positive shout out to you! You really have great content and I learn a lot from these videos
@MaurizioAzzalini
@MaurizioAzzalini 3 года назад
I'm a watch collector and still found some useful tips I didn't know about. Specifically the last one about mineral crystals.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад
I feel like I have to mention this under every video talking about water resistance ratings at this point but dynamic pressure is actually quite insignificant compared to static pressure. If a watch was actually tested to 3 bars of static pressure and passed it should absolutely survive a swim, the manufacturer just doesn't want to be liable. In other words, most watches are "underrated" on purpose (in terms of what the manual says you can do) so people baby them and they won't have as many warranty cases. Most famous example is the F91W which is so cheap people don't baby it and they rarely fail when people are swimming, jumping and sliding.
@mogens47
@mogens47 3 года назад
Exactly! static pressure is around 98% af the pressure challenge for a watch if not more.. if you jump in, crawl or float.. doesn't matter to your watch how you are moving around in your swim, .
@hattube
@hattube 2 года назад
Great video, my only pushup is regarding depth rating: water resistance is also a proxy to indicate ruggedness even if you dont use it to dive, a watch rated to 1000m is likely to have more impact resistance than a 100m watch.
@hattube
@hattube 2 года назад
I meant pushback (not pushup ;))
@barfymann362
@barfymann362 3 года назад
TPG should hire you to be their PR guy.
@nukiepoo
@nukiepoo 3 года назад
Excellent content. Good points and well spoken
@webvideofan
@webvideofan 3 года назад
20:19 Accuracy… another great point in the commentary. 👍🏻
@Mike-hr7pc
@Mike-hr7pc 3 года назад
If you are collecting... The words says it, collecting ! A collector doesn't just get one. The hunt is exciting and getting is the achievement. After, you are proud of your achievements. Wearing it is your way of telling people that you achieved !
@kelechinobi3085
@kelechinobi3085 3 года назад
Don’t get me started on the in-house movement debate 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Totally agree with you there. PS Only Seiko and Swatch are TRULY in-house
@andyc6736
@andyc6736 3 года назад
Great video! Especially the accuracy comparison of quartz vs. mechanical watches. I always have to explain my clients that it is unfair to constantly compare mechanical watches (even COSC) to an atomic clock and then complaining about losing or gaining a second! Good grief! A mechanical watch should be checked once a week and be within a minute! If that’s too much to ask or you’re a NASA engineer, please get a quartz/atomic/GPS enabled watch!
@villagranvicent
@villagranvicent 2 года назад
An Apple watch would do the trick lol
@bradcarter5403
@bradcarter5403 Год назад
This is why i have a hand written list of Grail watches lol. The page has 25 watches written on it. Rarely do they get marked off, but when they do... another will enter the top 25 😅🤣🤣
@webvideofan
@webvideofan 3 года назад
8:49 Water Resistance. Very true commentary.
@Memfys
@Memfys 3 года назад
Great, great video. That point about grail watches is especially true (for a collector). Kudos.
@stevestojan
@stevestojan 3 года назад
Hey Teddy. You mentioned Accutron. I’m interested in the ElectroStatic Spaceview DNA (in green). Sorry if this is an inappropriate question, but your price is exactly the same as buying right from the Accutron website. Any advantage to buying from you? Sorry again if that’s out of line, but figured going through a dealer I’d save at least a couple percentage points. Thanks!
@ajmarion
@ajmarion 3 года назад
He’s an Authorized Dealer of Accutron, so he has to follow the pricing guidelines that Accutron sets for it’s dealer network. That’s why the prices are the same, because Accutron establishes them. If you buy from Teddy or any AD you still receive all the benefits that you would if you bought from the manufacturer (manufacturer warranty etc.), so the experience will be pretty much the same. I think Teddy is still doing the deal where if you buy a watch you get a free strap, so definitely look into buying from him.
@stevestojan
@stevestojan 3 года назад
@@ajmarion thanks for the response. My thought is that I would be able to negotiate at an AD (except Rolex, of course!) Last week I grabbed a Longines Big Eye Chrono and asked for 10% off at the AD and before I could get the words out of my mouth, the AD agreed.
@danielmunoz6866
@danielmunoz6866 3 года назад
@stevestojan I would recommend you to book a consultation (look at the top left on the page) ... I did that and talked to Stephen on the phone when thinking about buying my Formex Essence ... great experience ... give it a try.
@stevestojan
@stevestojan 3 года назад
@@danielmunoz6866 cool. I will do exactly that! Thanks!
@kilgour91
@kilgour91 2 года назад
Teddy is a very articulate presenter. His views on material goods and the emptiness they can often leave us with was bang on. Another great video, loving them!
@Hexsyn
@Hexsyn 3 года назад
I think my capitalism module is broken. I have managed to find a solid level of contentment in the world of fountain pens, multitools/pocket knives, and watches after just a few purchases in each rather than having that continuous itch to scratch. Guess I am lucky?
@Praxeus514
@Praxeus514 3 года назад
Say rather your consumerism module is broken, or that it’s actually working properly.
@sdemosi
@sdemosi 3 года назад
You seem to have found the right balance for you. I acquired a lot of watches over around 3 decades and then offloaded many of them to arrive at 10 watches, most of which I wear and 2 sit in boxes as they're valuable. No regrets on the collecting but at a certain stage you have more than enough. I'm flirting with the idea of buying another German tool watch, my first watch purchase in 3 years. But there's no rush because I have enough.
@Hexsyn
@Hexsyn 3 года назад
@@sdemosi I feel like a large part of my situation is that I'm obsessively compelled to extensively research potential purchases when it comes to this kind of thing (enthusiast products with a lot of nuance) so by the time I purchase something, I have a very good idea of what I want from the product and a realistic expectation of what I am going to get... so not a lot of buyer's remorse or unfulfilled expectations. For what it is worth, it took me about 3 months after deciding I want a watch (and diving head-long into the online watch community) for me to buy my first (and currently only) watch, which is a WQT eclipse N.01, and despite about 4 months more now of following a bunch of watch youtubers and reading forums, I only really have one future watch purchase "grail" in mind--namely, the Grand Seiko Snowflake. With the former, I knew I wanted a mechanical watch if I was going to bother to have a wrist watch at all, and if I were to have a mechanical watch, I wanted a skeletonized watch to show off the mechanism. The lack of waterproofing is something I have to be careful about, but by no means a hinderance in my every day life, and I DO worry a bit about the longevity of the mechanism and how I am going to get it repaired/maintained when and/or if the time comes, but for a $300ish investment, those detracting factors were a calculated and acceptable compromise. Ultimately, the eclipse fit the bill of what works on my wrist (for size) and being a relatively low price compared to the next more expensive but attractive skeletonized watch I was considering as an alternative. As for the Snowflake, it fits the role of being an aspirational piece that I can save up for, but isn't so insanely expensive that I can never acquire it, with a mechanism that is elegant, unique, dependable, and more accurate that what I currently have, and the dial + overall package has an aesthetic that would be a counter-point to the one watch I currently have, while also being absurdly beautiful. All of this having been said, I will readily admit that I might like to buy a triple-sensor g-shock for a "beater" watch some day, and certainly it would be absolutely amazing if I could acquire a dual-faced reverso at some point in my life, but I strangely just lack that feeling of emptiness or urge for acquisition for either or these, and even the Snowflake is sitting in a comfortable mental seat of "it would be cool if I eventually buy this, but I'm in no rush". It is just so strange to me that I feel my stance is both the "appropriate adult response" but also completely alien to what appears to be the experience of a majority of people in this community. Like I said originally, I can objectively see that my experience is fortunate, but it just so puzzling to seemingly be so different! With my narcissistic and lengthy explanation aside, I would like to say that it is reassuring to hear that you seem to have a relatively tame collection despite being in the biz for 30 years... which is definitely impressive if I say so myself. I would be curious to know what your 10 watch collection currently includes, and if you can give any sort of empiric explanation as to why those specific watches survived the culling where others did not. Penny for your thoughts!
@Hexsyn
@Hexsyn 3 года назад
@@Praxeus514 haha, consumerism module is DEFINITELY the word I was searching for! And yeah... I don't know which one it is--broken or immaculately functioning--but I definitely feel like the odd-one-out either way!
@Hexsyn
@Hexsyn 3 года назад
@Sixgunner dot org I do feel enthusiastic about watches, and really enjoy continuing to know more, but yeah I guess I don't have a driving urge to diversify or experiment with new releases, if that is what you are getting at.
@jlarsson1978
@jlarsson1978 3 года назад
So true what you say about watch collecting and exit watches. Got the Rolex Batman which was a grail for me, but after a short while I realized it wasn't especially good or versatile and sold it. Actually sold all my Rolexes as they simply are overpriced and instead went for a broader collection with other brands.
@johndavolta3124
@johndavolta3124 3 года назад
The parte when he says that people buy "500m" water resistance and just use the watch at a pool party reminds me of the same people who buy a $70K off-road pickup truck with a V8 engine and just use it to commute to work for their office, white collar job....overkill
@philanthropenos1074
@philanthropenos1074 5 месяцев назад
"At the end of the day, it is just a watch", something we all have to remember before buying a new one.
@warrenviegas2300
@warrenviegas2300 3 года назад
7:17: Switzerland makes the best watches....let's be frank---made me chuckle
@BourbonDrinker
@BourbonDrinker 3 года назад
I would love to see the US come back as a leader in watch and clock making. I have two antique mantle clocks made in Connecticut.
@tlr-nut7275
@tlr-nut7275 3 года назад
What about Shinola? Made in Detroit. With lots of imported parts of course.
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 3 года назад
Come back? Have to be there originally to make a come back.
@BourbonDrinker
@BourbonDrinker 3 года назад
@@Jabber-ig3iw The US was a leader in high-end clocks and watches.
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