7 Things Pilots Say that not Everybody Wants to Hear - Debating pilot slang

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Season 3, Episode 9
I personally don't care too much about other people's proper phraseology, as long as they're understandable, and convey all the information that I need to hear, but some others are really particular, and let's face it, most of it isn't technically appropriate. Let's take a look at some of the most popular ways to sound unprofessional on the radio.
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@erictaylor5462 6 лет назад

One of my favorites happened while flying with my dad. We were holding on the runway waiting for a plane on very short final when I asked my dad if the planes wheels were down. Without resounding to me my dad keyed the radio and said "Aircraft on final. Go around! Gears gears gears." He said the final "gears" as the plane crossed in front of us about not too many feet or so above the ground. Fortunately the pilot was already responding to the "go around" call and had already added power. He came withing about 10 or 15 feet of the ground but was able to climb out and PROPERLY configure his plane for landing. Clearly the pilot was good enough to understand when you hear "go around" you just do it. Don't bother asking why. The guy came over the radio and thanked my dad. Dad just said, "Thank my 12 year old son." It was the best ever "Thanks kid." I ever heard.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

THAT'S A GREAT STORY!!! I wish I kept a record of the best stories on my channel so I could do an episode about them all some day.

@lowprofile2412 6 лет назад

Eric Taylor great story, thanks

@bonchie1 6 лет назад

There's an airport I fly into often where the tower will actually announce "check gear down" in your landing clearance. Even if you are fixed gear lol. It's a joint public/ANG base so I figure it's something to do with the military traffic.

@Ked_gaming 6 лет назад

Military ATC doesn't really check with you on final because fighter pilot do "break" aproaches, instead they ask for 3 green ;)

@hempelcx 6 лет назад

Yes, military towers offer a "check gear down" warning for every approach as standard procedure.

@rcLawnDartPilot 6 лет назад

As one of my instructors said, PTT stands for "Push to talk", not "Push to think".

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

HA! That's a good one.

@davidneustaeter8332 5 лет назад

That should be added to the training manual. Good one 👍

@meganb.2249 5 лет назад

Someone in my driving instruction class thought the E on the gas guage stood for "Extra."

@xX_Skraith_Xx 5 лет назад

The worst is ATC asking a pilot how far out they are and the pilot immediately keying the mic and letting a "G'uuuuuuh" rip until they figure out their distance

@jakecresn3749 5 лет назад

Nah, "e" stands for "enough." On the shifter "P" is "pass" and "R" is "race."

@Logarithm906 6 лет назад

7 Things Pilots Say that Nobody Wants to Hear... For non-pilots "Where's the airport?" "Was that our engine?" "That's not a normal noise" "I'm sure we had more fuel than this" "Do you remember where we're going?" "I wonder what this button does" "I shouldn't have pressed that button"

@craigmorgan8493 6 лет назад

Firebird Now THAT was funny! ....and more accurate!

@niceguy2171 6 лет назад

You missed "Ut Oh"

@MrBrno 5 лет назад

"Just ignore the alarms and we'll be fine"

@orbitalrm 5 лет назад

Firebird “hey you see that bird? Let’s try to suck it with our jet engine!”

@DinoDays703 5 лет назад

"Is that the runway?"

@nickpedersen3032 4 года назад

"Cherokee 8115P, say intentions" "Intentions"

@aeroengguy448 4 года назад

"Cherokee 8115P, say cancelling instruments"

@donovanhuffine2983 3 года назад

I actually said that at my first ever towered landing... embarrassing.

@rcbif101 5 лет назад

"With you..." - ATC - "Well I'm glad he's not against us, we're sitting ducks down here!"

@LavenderSystem69 4 года назад

That actually sounds like something Kennedy Steve would've said before he retired

@tomlawson4713 6 лет назад

My father once tuned into a new frequency only to hear a pilot asked to squawk, and the pilot replied (completely seriously, might I add) with an impression of a crow.

@HJBounell 5 лет назад

I've done that. I'm a smartass!

@JJGuardian 6 лет назад

There is a radio culture which, rightly or wrongly, impacts things. I started my flight training at a fully controlled airfield that was also a very busy training field for professional & private students. I got very good at taking a moment to prepare what to say before saying it and getting ahead of my little plane. I was very proud of my radio work. I did my last 30 hours of training at a completely uncontrolled airport. I got razzed by instructors for doing regular position call outs to local traffic in the student practice area to update where I was and what menouvers I was practicing, just in case. One instructor in another plane in the practice area went so far as to begin requesting position checks one after another, again and again to make fun. I answered them all as is legally required but that was BS. There were a number of uncontrolled procedure call outs I would have been shot for ignoring but this airport told you not to bother doing since it was, their own frequency. The other one I loved was sloppy activity in the circuit. Call out turning on base, half way along downwind and then taking the xcountry downwind. The one that stands out was coming over the Center field to join the downwind. I notice another Cessna that was crossing along downwind but was above. It was an instructor and he called out his altitude as the circuit alt and claiming to be in the circuit. I called back asking if he was the Cessna at (circuit+75 feet). He was shocked and admitted he wasn’t where he said he was. 2 years later he and a student died in a midair collision on their way to the practice area. He was a sweet fellow. So yeah, maybe some bad habits were forced on potentially good pilots because of local airfield culture.

@ccandmore 5 лет назад

Interesting point. Per haps there may be some truth in that

@MJLeger-yj1ww 5 лет назад

There are pretty standard rules for radio communication. No room for "local airfield lingo" EVER!

@aviatortrucker6285 11 месяцев назад

10-4!

@Hashpassion 6 лет назад

It's 1am and im not a pilot why I'm watching this

@josephgurgui8686 6 лет назад

Because it's cool and you're cool and as long as safety issues aren't involved, screw the rules. That's why :P

@discreditor 6 лет назад

To help you sleep my man, excellent choice of video if i may be so bold to say so.

@deeanna8448 6 лет назад

Not a pilot either, and I'm watching! It's only 9:15 though!

@Jonathan-pz6ws 5 лет назад

official Putin Interesting😂

@terriecotham1567 5 лет назад

to learn

@NETBotic 6 лет назад

You've got uhhhh another youtube user, annnnnnd, great video, uhhhhhh anyone else watching please advise. Best part 4:27.059834. Clear of the comments section, over.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

You make me laugh :)

@TonyP9279 6 лет назад

As Airforceproud95 would say: "You are clear to Alt-F4."

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Love it! XD

@cheryltaylor-quinn9486 6 лет назад

Jon Netbotic; as my head explodes

@kingfisher7360 6 лет назад

I've been laughing at this for way too long. Good one

@ChaplainDaveSparks 6 лет назад

Good points. My guess is that starting a radio transmission with "uhh" or "ahhh" was someone's idea of how to avoid "short keying". Short keying is keying the mic, trying to start speaking right away, and having your first word or syllable get cut off because you either timed it wrong, or the radio didn't react as fast as your mouth.

@MJLeger-yj1ww 5 лет назад

That is a common error! Engage brain, then button, then mouth!

@AmyAnnLand 4 года назад

I think people in general use those filler words (um, and, like, etc) in everyday conversations so there will be pilots who speak that way. It is hard to break the habit after you've been using them for so long. It took me a long time to stop and I didn't even realize I used filler words until a professor pointed it out to be back in college. People just sound more eloquent and articulate when those words aren't used.

@YamahaC7SRG 3 года назад

Yep, that's it. Older radios, especially voice-activated intercoms, cut off the first syllable so we started transmissions with 'uh' or 'and.' Newer radios are much better but old habits are hard to break.

@knussear 3 года назад

@@YamahaC7SRG I fly an open cockpit bird with a VOX to keep the wind noise down, and depending on the setting sometimes a verbal noise is needed to key the mike, button or no button.

@leeryan1969 5 лет назад

I agree with uploader. As a fixed-wing and helicopter pilot, correct radio terminology should be mandatory and universal among pilots

@AreeyaKKC 5 лет назад

7500... Seven five taken alive. 7600... Seven six need a fix. 7700...seven seven goin to heaven.

@brunosoares3155 4 года назад

I knew: Seven five man with a knife Seven six need a fix Seven seven I'm falling from heaven

@moistnugget3717 6 лет назад

I am 15 hours into flight training and I am lucky enough to not have been exposed to any of these bad habits. Thanks for the video! Without watching this I would have had not idea what that slang meant.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

I do my best, friend :) I was about to walk away from my computer, but returned simply to say that your username makes me laugh every time! XD

@MillionFoul 6 лет назад

What are you doing /k/omrade? Do not exit containment for your own safety!

@randyporter3491 6 лет назад

Moist Nugget Sounds like you have already acquired the most important skill and that's listening, watching (yes, videos like this), asking questions and soaking up the mountain of "free" information out there. Sure, you have to filter it, but just like these tips from an ATC, there alot of good information you can pick up. Good luck with your training, be safe!

@scorpio66invt 6 лет назад

when you go solo for the first time say to your instructor ,"Watch this Alpha Max Flyby I saw on TV last nite!" then close the door and watch him lose his mind!!!!

@moistnugget3717 6 лет назад

I wanted to share a little embarrassing thing I said on the radio. I play the game battlefield 1 a lot and they use the old british words for letters when talking about the objectives in the game. For instance, A is apple, b is butter, and d is duff. Well when I was told to taxi to runway 8 at alpha via delta alpha I read back "taxi to runway 8 at apple via delta apple." There was a pause and then ground just said back "apple...?" Then I offered my correction and slapped my forehead lol.

@graemejwsmith 6 лет назад

I thought "B" was "Boy" and 'D" was "Dog" during WWII....

@marceloa.1597 6 лет назад

Battlefield 1 is set in wwi

@unusualbydefault 6 лет назад

Armadyl Featherbreeze so you mean the nato phonetic alphabet ;) it took some time to figure out a proper phonetic alphabet for ALL nations, more research than one would guess

@ryanjhenry2493 5 лет назад

BAHAHAHA! funny ;p

@BManStan1991 5 лет назад

We've captured objective Butter!

@jhutch1470 5 лет назад

I was field training a new police officer and found the most unusual "tick" he had. He would transmit something over the radio, and sound fine doing it. But when he let off the PTT button he would click his tongue off of the roof of his mouth while opening his mouth really wide. Every time. He got a little better with it, but still does it to this day.

@rickmeyer1872 5 лет назад

Agree with all of these. Regarding #7; I announce my aircraft type at uncontrolled fields as I’m in a large jet and therefore fly larger patterns. My hope is that it helps other traffic to know where to look for me and that I need a little more time to fit into the flow.

@aztcgreg 4 года назад

Clear of the runway is one of the four recommended calls when inbound to a non towered field AIM

@gevmage 6 лет назад

And of course, the people who chat about their lives on the CTAF are the worst. The guy who taught me to fly did this a bit. He would call out to people whose voices he recognised. He only did it for 30 seconds at a time, so it wasn't too bad. One time I was flying from Knoxville to Chattanooga (probably mostly to get cross-country time; I think it was when I needed to be building cross-country hours, so I was VFR with not a lot to do). And air time is the most precious thing around, so I generally do my own reporting and otherwise stay off the air. I was monitoring 122.8, and two guys apparently in different airplanes that knew each other starting having a long conversation about their weekend. They talked for a couple of minutes on air, and then went silent. I thought "phew, that's over". And then they got back on frequency and spent another couple of minutes talking about what they were going to do the following weekend. Then that finally tapered off, so I still stayed off. But then they started talking about where they were going for Christmas. I waited for a gap, keyed the mic and said "To the two guys who are talking about Christmas; the rest of us don't care". There was deafening silence.

@aeromagnumtv1581 5 лет назад

Awesome!

@MrBrno 5 лет назад

Man, that sounds distracting, therefore dangerous.

@Tmanaz480 4 года назад

LOL ..This is not Ham radio!

@LavenderSystem69 4 года назад

This story is literally the epitome of CB Channel 19 these days. All jabberjaw or deafening silence, no usable info. Gets to the point where I wait for a gap and key up to say "gentlemen, if you're gonna shoot the shit like this, you got 37 other viable channels to do it on. Leave 19 for actual communication, over."

@organphil 4 года назад

Once, a year or so ago, the tower at SAC had an on-frequency discussion with a pilot who had just returned from visiting New York City. He was commenting about the large numbers of cops on the streets and how comforting that seemed to him. It went on for more than a minute, and I was wanting to say goodby and jump to NorCal for flight following. When the friendly conversation finally concluded I got on the frequency and told the tower I'd like to change my plans and get direct to New York City . . . In a Cherokee 140.

@captainjohnh9405 6 лет назад

Please, for heaven sake, do NOT tow a King Air with the air stairs down! A bump along the way and those low hanging stairs will get hit, and doors on King Airs are hand fitted. It will be two months before that plane is back in service.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Lol I figured somebody would notice that and confirm what I was suspecting.

@harryhenrygebel3506 6 лет назад

I'm not even a pilot and when I saw that I though, "hmm, that looks a little off."

@titaniumlegs 6 лет назад

Haha, I saw that too. But then, I'm just a 180-hour private pilot flying 172s. The King Airs I've jumped out of don't have air stairs - just plexi sliding doors.

@Bartonovich52 6 лет назад

Meh... maybe. Most like not, though. That 100 has to be close to the scrapyard anyways.

@captainjohnh9405 6 лет назад

Really? I have flown C-90s much older that were still turning a profit.

@acrosby2117 6 лет назад

I was trained to use military terms like No Joy, Judy, RTB, Bingo fuel, etc. thinking they were common and understood by everyone. In my younger pilot days, I thought it would be a good idea to rent a Cessna at the North Las Vegas airport and visit the Hoover Dam and area. It was then that I realized that my air communications had to be much more clear and concise. The slang and local terms for the Las Vegas area certainly surprised me. I was told "Proceed Red Rock", "Fly to the Spaghetti bowl", "Stay out of Charlie airspace", "Line up with Flamingo Drive" "Avoid Nellis" and "Proceed to the Golf Course". Eventually I had to say "Unfamiliar with the area". This experience gave me some respect for using standard terminology so that everyone understands where you are and where you are going. Pilots at my airport use local slang like "over the stacks" "over the dam" or "over the river" and it definitely doesn't help visiting pilots know where you are.

@theguy0000 5 лет назад

Okay that's all perfectly good and interesting, but "avoid Charlie airspace" I REALLY hope you understand

@MJLeger-yj1ww 5 лет назад

Excellent advice. If I heard a pilot say "fish finder" or ANY of that slang, I would think he is very inadequate! A pilot flying an aircraft is engaged in a very serious business and you are NOT the only one in the sky. But, there are cocky, show-off pilots also in the sky, unfortunately. Some controllers can be pretty tolerant of nonsense, but many are not. And often other pilots in the sky will think you are a smart-a** also!

@Basgx470 5 лет назад

Thank you!! . I'm so glad that you mentioned, "active runway". Of course there is only a preferred runway at an untowered airport. A call such as, "clear of runway xx" is what should be used.

@bradwilmot5066 6 лет назад

"If you're a Piper Cub, I'm going to assume you're yellow." I need a new keyboard... Dr. Pepper spewed out my nose onto it doesn't bode well for it. LOL!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

@xStevieBx 6 лет назад

I hear you can just fly wherever you want and not say a thing, so long as you squawk 7600.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

lol The AIM actually has a really interesting section on that. Fascinating read. The facility will ask you if you're "under unlawful interference" or something, instead of using easily recognizable words in case the speaker is on.

@xStevieBx 6 лет назад

Are you referring to 7500?

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Oh, I was, ooops. Wow. I guess I was primed for reading 7500 after reading that :P

@xStevieBx 6 лет назад

Hey, 7500 works! I hear that one gets you a free airshow (courtesy of the U.S. Air Force) too!

@talkingbob 6 лет назад

I always enjoy watching the Thunderbirds perform. :)

@pilotandy_com 6 лет назад

Shuttle Discovery on a 15 mile final. Unless that applies to you, announce when you're closer.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Discovery, 15 mile final, descending through 20,000.

@glennswiatek3738 6 лет назад

When initially calling a non towered airport, it is a good idea to also specify your altitude. Thereafter, if needed.

@maelo9x 5 лет назад

Currently training to become a new pilot and I must say very happy with these videos. Thank you so much

@Zankaroo 6 лет назад

I want to buy a Piper Cub and paint it purple just to mess with you.

@midgetrace 5 лет назад

You could buy a Mercedes and put a wing on it and some cool stuff with stripes too only cuts down the resale value

@tabchanzero8229 5 лет назад

The purple piper plays his tune, The choir softly sing; Three lullabies in an ancient tongue, For the court of the crimson king.

@meganb.2249 5 лет назад

@@midgetrace Hey, if you liked it then you should've put a wing on it.

@akaSlasher 5 лет назад

I never saw a purple Cub I never hope to see one But I will tell you frankly bub I'd rather spy one than fly one

@philipmcniel4908 5 лет назад

Hey, the one in FSX had two alternate liveries, a cream-and-burgundy one and a cool-looking red-and-white one.

@devonopdendries7722 5 лет назад

Oh gosh... "Any conflicting traffic please advise." Is one of my #1 pet peeves.

@CaptainMav 5 лет назад

Oh god yeah it’s pandemic in Canada on the enroute frequencies. “Cessna 180 ABC is ermmmmmm 2 miles from [tiny hamlet you can barely see on the map] going Springbank Airport (busiest flight training airport in Canada) any conflicting traffic please advise ABC” great dipshit where actually are you what’s your altitude, are you level, what routing are you taking???? 😡😡

@lfsheldon 5 лет назад

I have not been PIC in years, but the law used to be "use your full call sign until the controller initiates an abbreviation, then use IT."

@dmalcolm24 3 года назад

That is still true

@angeltransportpjects 6 лет назад

SO TRUE! I totally condone and enjoyed watching this video having done much of my ab-initio flight training in the Class E airspace of SC. Unicom is definitely a magnet for unorthodox transmissions especially when shared between uncontrolled airfields. SO much care was taken as a student pilot and so much was heard / learned - more importantly! Trust me ... It may look quiet over The Boonies but it can and does get hairy! Always: Aviate. Navigate. Communicate. Wherever you happen to be.

@paco291 5 лет назад

Roger Murdock: Flight 2-0-9'er, you are cleared for take-off. Captain Oveur: Roger! Roger Murdock: Huh? Tower voice: L.A. departure frequency, 123 point 9'er. Captain Oveur: Roger! Roger Murdock: Huh? Victor Basta: Request vector, over. Captain Oveur: What? Tower voice: Flight 2-0-9'er cleared for vector 324. Roger Murdock: We have clearance, Clarence. Captain Oveur: Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor? Tower voice: Tower's radio clearance, over! Captain Oveur: That's Clarence Oveur. Over.

@organphil 4 года назад

Exacitically

@mrpielover615 6 лет назад

the ending comment of "If you are a piper cub, Im going to assume you are yellow" made me laugh so hard, I dont know why ! :P

@DavidSmith-mk7qo 6 лет назад

My biggest beef is pilots who talk very fast. Controllers are even guilty of it. Speak properly and in a timely fashion. If it is a training flight the student probably won't understand you anyway.

@ItsAllAboutGuitar 6 лет назад

I agree, and don't ramble. Make your bullet points and end it.

@tabchanzero8229 5 лет назад

Cledlan.

@aeromagnumtv1581 5 лет назад

Helps to let ATC know you are a student pilot ahead of time too.

@xX_Skraith_Xx 5 лет назад

"Airporttraffic,Cessna150,leftdownwindof18this'llbeatouchngo" Like calm down, Sully, you'll get your shot at the airlines.

@benlongden1896 5 лет назад

In my early days training, my instructor was also training on the Chieftain. When I asked him for a typical radio call for joining the circuit, he just gabbled it at lightning speed. I asked him to say it again, but at a speed I could understand. He was simply trying to say the whole thing in less than three seconds... He did it again.. in four seconds.. and I said i would have a go. So I did it how he did it.. in three seconds... and he could not understand a word I said... then he looked at me.. and said "message received". The dude now drives 747s ... I just drive a 172.

@Austinflank 6 лет назад

Instant like. Your videos are great, and are very easy to relate to as a newer pilot. I discovered your channel about 5 hours in, now I have a PPL going for intrument. Fantastic material.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Yeah!! :D You've passed me out!

@mattfgln 6 лет назад

Congratulations on the growth of your channel, saw in a post of steveo that you are one of the fastest growing aviation channels !

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Thanks, mate! It's a little scary too, but I'll still keep doing my best! :)

@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm 6 лет назад

'with you' really grinds my gears. Like "Ahem, no shit".

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Haha same here.

@Redbird85C 6 лет назад

When handed off I just say "Providence approach Cardinal N1185C ". A bunch of times I get asked my altitude, so might as well save time and replace "with you" with something useful!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

That's exactly what you're supposed to do, actually! :)

@moeinmemphis 6 лет назад

Actually, you should avoid the word "for." You should say "X thousand climbing (or descending) Y thousand."

@gevmage 6 лет назад

You're always supposed to give your altitude in a hand-off. This allows to controller to 1) verify that the altitude your transponder is sending is the same as your altimeter and 2) make sure that your intentions with respect to altitude are the same as they have down for you. Yeah, in recent years, I've learned to leave off "with you" and "level". So just "Atlanta Center, Skyhawk 12345 seven thousand" which is pretty concise. The other day, though, I was handed between centers when I was halfway down a "at your discression" descent from 11k to 7k, and I hadn't realized I was about to transition, so my callback was a bit long because I hadn't thought it through. Oops.

@psaviationphotography9273 6 лет назад

Hey, I fly that exact steerman on the cover of the Faraim. I was in the plane when that photo was taken!!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

No way!!! Really??

@stevek8829 4 года назад

Sure thing, only it's not spelled steerman [sic].

@stevek8829 4 года назад

@@FriendlySkiesFilm the "jack" couldn't even spell "Stearman."

@debovsky5323 6 лет назад

To Friendly Skies Film; thanks for sharing this with us. It is so true. I like it so much that I have share the link to your video on our Facebook page !!

@MotorMercMVU 6 лет назад

Dude, your channel is so good.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Hearing that always makes my day :)

@SGTSnakeUSMC 6 лет назад

Out here in AZ, we and ATC say "See ya" to eachother often vs. "Good day". I also "thank 'em for their service" a lot. Yeah, it is unnecessary chatter, but only takes a second, and my local field recognizes my callsign. So, they show their gratitude by often letting me do multiple "options" while busy and denying same to others. Thanks for the vids bro. OK, I'll confess to another...I have a bad habit of responding to "type aircraft" requests with "We're a Skylane slash Alpha" as if both I and the aircraft are two souls functioning as one Cessna 182. I know I can leave out the "We're a" but it just comes out no matter how hard I try. I never say box or flash or call 20 miles out though cuz I'm not a tool or flyin' turbines.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Hahaha This is exactly how I feel!

@ItsAllAboutGuitar 6 лет назад

I like the "see ya" or "have a good day" and I always thank them. ATC is working hard to keep us safe.

@alexdelarge8749 5 лет назад

SGTSnakeUSMC Good ole AZ... If you, or those fellow aviators about our FAA designated complex airspace happened cut off an Robinson R44 at the top of the stack over Casa Grande circa day 15 November ish in a fancy diamond star..... Well played. I was avoiding foreign students on the wrong CTAF, trying to form Voltron and hold a standard rate turn in a heli so I decided to hold a hover until the cloud from the cow heard yonder made me get back to tracking that silly VOR I was cone of confusion dippy sticking above. Fixed wing or rotorcraft my head was on a swivel my cord line was only waiting to see what angle I was going to be GETTING attacked from. If you've been there, you know.... Memories....

@alexdelarge8749 5 лет назад

@@SusanKay- Sorry to hear that. Since 09 I've lost 3 flight instructors, a fellow helo pilot and 2 acquaintances and one I've only heard of. 2 CFIT, 1 Mechanical Failure, 1 pilot error (catastrophic structural failure, mast bumping) 1 Engine fire at alt, 1 IMC. That's just in helicopters. Being an FAA designated "Complex Airspace" Phx is a rodeo of sorts. Especially messy when the intergalactic crew pop in. Just a matter of when not if you crash in a heli. But I'm prepared, I've wrecked my Exceed Blue Ray 450 remote controlled weed wacker helicrasher numerous times from every angle possible and not. But honestly, safe flights and safe landings to you. And let us all whom are pilots, remember it's pilot error (I believe the NTSB says) 90% of the time. Ya'll be safe up there. And if you're ever in Phx my callsign is "Hot Lips"

@computer5272 6 лет назад

I cannot stand that white 172 I always hear on CTAF! It's like he's following me! And he does different voices just to make it seem like he's in more than one place in the pattern at a time!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

You're the best, dude! XD

@NightFlyerKilo 6 лет назад

"Yellow taildragger" is my favorite so far. Like, you can't even bother to tell us what type of plane you're flying, just the gear layout?

@computer5272 6 лет назад

I stick with aircraft type and then the last three characters of my N-number, IE "Navajo 85K" or "Helicopter 58V", aircraft type is obvious, 3 characters is the perfect balance between quick announcement, identity, and likeliness of same call-sign on same freq at the same time.

@masonm1124 6 лет назад

Ian Kelly b

@GaryMCurran 6 лет назад

If it's a Yellow Taildragger, it's a Cub. It's the law, only Piper Cubs are allowed to be Yellow, with a touch of black. So, if you hear Yellow Taildragger, it's a Piper Cub, and they are flying slower than you are . . . at cruise!

@bar10dr 4 года назад

I wish you would start making videos again, I find them very helpful.

@jamiedavinci1328 6 лет назад

Hit the like button two minutes in, and wanted to like it again when I finished. Great video.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Yay :)

@okieflyerredneckpilot6580 5 лет назад

As a pilot who uses non-towered fields 99% of the time, here's what area traffic needs to know and why: Who you are addressing. Example - Mansfield Traffic There are often multiple fields on the same frequency. Aircraft type. Not Cessna, not Piper, not Experimental, but Skylane, Lance, Lancair. This helps us judge how fast you are coming or going. There is a huge variation in aircraft speeds, and saying your specific type or model helps us sequence better. Your tail number. Abbreviated is fine. We need to be able to distinguish between aircraft of the same type. Multiple 150s or Cherokees are common. Your current position. Your intentions. Think about what you're going to say before keying up, and be specific. The initial call up at 10 or 15 miles out doesen't need to be super detailed, but provide those details in subsequent calls. Finish up the call with the name of airfield. It's easy for area traffic to miss it the first time because so many people don't speak clearly and deliberately. Paint color is almost always useless. Don't bother unless your situation makes it useful in some way. My #1 pet peeve is pilots trying to use their super cool airline pilot voice. News flash: airline pilots are the hardest of the bunch to understand on the radio. Slow down, speak clearly, and with sufficient volume at non-towered fields. The pilots there are usually weekend warriors that don't fly everyday on IFR flight plans, talking to controllers. Plain English is the way.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 5 лет назад

Wow, my thoughts in a nutshell exactly. Or maybe not in a nutshell, that was one thorough comment :)

@JustPlaneSilly 5 лет назад

You sir will never be a cirrus driver ) what's up Andrew? Have you booked Kentucky yet?

@okieflyerredneckpilot6580 5 лет назад

@@JustPlaneSilly Haha! I think I goes without saying, bro. I have not booked Kentucky. If we are 100% settled on date and location, I shall do it forthwith.

@7sotnem 5 лет назад

Comparing this video to my experience learning to fly in Australia, It seems like we’re super by the book. The only person I’ve heard saying non standard stuff had an American accent

@caitthenerd7470 4 года назад

Don't know what Australia's like, but in the UK, you have to have a Flight Radio Telephony Operator's License (FRTOL) which involves 2 exams. I can't really find anything about the US having similar, so that might have something to do with how lax they seem to be?

@johnhoward7260 3 года назад

@@caitthenerd7470 In the U.S., we are no longer required to have a radio operator's license unless we are flying international. I do not know when the requirement was lifted (sometime after 1979) but would not complain if it were reinstated.

@PilotMan71 6 лет назад

Good Stuff. Regarding the excessive distance, this one is a bit more situation dependent. I fly a CRJ for work and we fly into non-towered airports frequently. Our slowest approach speed is 130-145 knots. Often times we approach much faster at about 250 slowing to 200 knots until about 10-15 miles out. So we can cover that 5 miles between 15 to 10 miles in 2 minutes which is barely enough time for a plane to see us. We do our best but we are limited by the physics of the airplane. So as soon as we get the hand off from center/tracon to CTAF/unicom, we call inbound to get everyone else's head on a swivel and to start planning for a significantly faster aircraft than most. Thanks for the great videos. I really enjoy them.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Glad you enjoy! Very good point you make there! Sometimes my vision is clouded by my experiences. Last time I heard this, it was from a Citabria ;P

@EJ25WRX 6 лет назад

I absolutely love this video! All my radio pet peeves in one video. Those videos of you flying the islands with the pilot calling "you've got a blah blah blah" had me yelling at my computer!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Oh no! Shhh... Don't tell him :P

@connorrogers4402 6 лет назад

I fly out of a busy towered airport so the thing that always makes me cringe is when the number one guy holding short is issued "line up and wait" and the guy behind him pulls up to the hold short line and calls "holding short." For one, tower is just going to tell you to keep holding short, there's an airplane sitting on the runway right in front of you. What's worse though is now you've got this guy calling up and blocking the tower who's trying to clear this guy for takeoff while there's another guy inside a 1.5 mile final. That and people calling up that they're holding short immediately after tower issues an instruction to someone in the pattern without waiting for the guy to respond, blocking the response. Causes a whole bunch of headache for everyone involved and it's unsafe.

@texaszzr 6 лет назад

Great video reminder, two that you missed that irritate me 1. Cessna 12345 "taking the runway for departure" 2. When praticing engine failures "Cessna 12345 lost the engine returning to the runway"

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Ughh #1. I know exactly what you mean.

@niceguy2171 6 лет назад

#1 is my SuperCringe one! If you're taking the runway, what are the rest of us going to use? And the rest are bad as well.

@sce2aux464 5 лет назад

"Tower, requesting flyby to check gear down, Cessna 152..."

@markprange238 5 лет назад

1. What's the recommended wording in the AIM?

@jasonjohnston185 6 лет назад

As far as #7 goes, I would agree with you on your preferred method. Personally I find one of the most important parts of the call is beginning and ending the call with the airfield name. I've been in a lot of areas where you might not hear the beginning of someone's transmission but when they repeat the "Worcester traffic" at the end it reaffirms that it's in your area or not. Especially when you're flying in an area where there are a lot of non-towered airports or there's another CTAF within receiving distance on the same freq. I'm not by any means saying that the other parts of the radio call are not important, it's just safer when someone repeats the airport so you don't have to worry in case you or someone else missed it at the beginning, got stepped on, ect. I've been in areas where 2 pilots at different airports were looking for each other in the pattern because they misheard each other.

@picard714 6 лет назад

Interesting video, Nicholas. Just starting my PPL journey. My CFI had me on comms my second lesson. Kept telling myself, "remember proper phraseology, remember proper phraseology, remember proper phraseology....." I know I'm likely to make mistakes, but when I nailed my request to the ground controller for taxi, my CFI gave me that thumbs up! Felt like walking on air. Thanks, Nick.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Sounds like you'll be a pilot in no time! :D

@picard714 6 лет назад

Thank you, my man!

@s4aviator804 6 лет назад

Announcing a 15 mile final in a light airplane, I agree, is overkill. But when I'm going into an untowered field in the jet, where we're on a 15 mile final with a ground speed of 175 knots, I'll announce it.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Makes total sense :)

@SkylaneGuy 5 лет назад

What are you too cool to fly the pattern like the rest of us? Enter upwind and keep it tight! If you want to ignore the rules and land straight-in every time, you'll have to buy yourself a Bonanza.

@buffysaviation 4 года назад

Okay, there was a time in FSX where I would literally take off an any flight, short or long, and immediately hop onto a “final approach” from any distance, I once was on a 2175.8 mile final

@organphil 4 года назад

@@SkylaneGuy It is uncontrolled. If there is no traffic and straight-in is consistent with the direction from whence you've come, its going to be straight in. Or you can meet me at the fuel pump with your credit card. Flying requires eyes and thought, not lock-step regulation.

@danielbond9755 9 месяцев назад

@@organphilThe problem where I fly is that it gets used when the pattern is full of aircraft and the jet is just going to ignore the pattern and make everyone else get out of the way. They will call themselves on final from 15 or 20 miles out as if that gives them priority. And I might not be burning as much gas, but I am on a much tighter budget than someone who can afford a jet.

@TAL1440 6 лет назад

I disagree about the 15 mile final call. Turbojets and other aircraft (which do also operate into many uncontrolled fields) may be operating in excess of 200kts on a 15 mile final. Nothing like coming in after a 4 hour flight to be cut off by a Cessna doing 65kts while you're screaming down slowing to your final speed which is still almost 100 kts faster than the Cessna. It helps to alert someone who may be better off delaying their base turn to allow a much faster airplane from having to maneuver around abnormally or go around because of your slowness.

@jibeneyto91 6 лет назад

Agreed. It's definitely not redundant. Even if you're 15 miles out on a 172, at least you give some notice so the people around the airport know somebody is coming in. Somebody on the ground might for instance decide not to do their power checks on the runway and things like that.

@SixStringflyboy 6 лет назад

I was taught as a general rule for a single piston, only call 10 miles out at an untowered field, unless you observe that there is potentially conflicting traffic in the area. I think it's just down to common sense, and depends on the situation. If you don't hear a lot of activity on the CTAF for the field, not much need to call more than 10 miles out. Plus, in this area at least, planes utilizing flight following don't get cleared to change to CTAF until about 10 miles out, so they wouldn't hear your call anyway.

@gevmage 6 лет назад

He didn't say not to call 15 miles out, he said not to call 15 mile FINAL.

@Silver9k 6 лет назад

I totally agree and was going to make this comment. 15 miles out is like a Cessna calling at 5 miles out. And 200kts...how about 250, 15 miles into uncontrolled is a good time to start configuring depending on altitude above field. Over the next 10 miles we'll slow to about 180-170 until 5 out and then finish slowing to final approach speed around the 130-150 range depending on weight. This is typical in most airliners CRJ/ERJ/73/A32x/71 15 miles at 200kts average speed takes 4.5 minutes, 5 miles at 68kts takes 4 minutes 24 sec. I'm sorry but when you are flying a jet you really don't want to go around because some Cessna thinks they can beat you in. Doing 1 std rate 360 takes 2 minutes and at 12gph it costs half a gallon. A A320 go around is a minimum of 400lbs of fuel or roughly 60 gallons. Airlines don't rule the sky, but you probably wouldn't do it if you were getting the bill.

@Silver9k 6 лет назад

Again...for turbojet aircraft that is basically the same thing as a small lightweight aircraft 5 miles on final. Turbojets do line up a long ways out sometimes when coming from that direction, and with only 15 miles to go...we'll be there pretty quick.

@bearb1asting 6 лет назад

You make some really amazing videos.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Aw, I do my best :) Always makes my day to hear that.

@webowner79 6 лет назад

I love your channel. can you do a video of the best things to tell or small talk passengers that obviously are a bit nervous or fly for the first time?

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

I like to think that my whole channel is kind of like that ;P Check out some of my older stuff! I used to do those kind of flights all the time.

@tannermarlow5162 6 лет назад

best topic, "I'm not really sure if my new A&P guy is quite up to snuff"

@gummel82 5 лет назад

"Request practice QDM" "Confirm you're lost?" "....affirm"

@vasilis23456 6 лет назад

Paints piper cub different color to take the piss out of this video

@mikes2221 6 лет назад

It is always nice to start each communication with the same phrase like your callsign. On the first call I hear your intentions and at the succeeding calls I immediately know who you are and where I would expect you now. So it is much easier to follow and expect your flight path over the time. Saying the color of aircraft is not important because when I see the red stripes I may be too close already. The type however could be of help especially if it is a uncommon aircraft for this airfield in types of speed or weight or maneuverability (gyro).

@ZicajosProductions 6 лет назад

I flew for the first time in a C172p yesterday!!! More interesting to fly than I expected.

@Juhujalp 5 лет назад

"That piper cub that is in the flare can you confirm you are yellow?"

@FriendlySkiesFilm 5 лет назад

Lol

@JonnyEaston 6 лет назад

wonderful thank you

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

You are very welcome :)

@georgepeach5430 6 лет назад

Another excellent offering from Friendly Skies Films. Many great suggestions. I think pilots want to seem more professional by saying "with you" or "in the box" etc. But being clear, polite and brief is far more helpful. Thanks Nick!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

I agree! It's an interesting question, which is vs. seems more professional, right?

@georgepeach5430 6 лет назад

Precisely!

@celeste3761 6 лет назад

i fell in love with your channel

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

@lethaldarkness115 6 лет назад

What music do you use in you're videos ? Could I have a download link? Also, I heard from a pilot to avoid the big fluffy white clouds and go for the stripy/wispy clouds instead, he said the fluffy clouds had much more turbulence, is this true?

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Most of it's in the RU-vid creator's library. This one is called, "Learning is Fun," believe it or not! Haha, Hm. Good question. I would agree that the puffy ones are more turbulent, and possible cause a wider area of disturbance, but the wispy ones are indicative of high winds. Pick your poison :) Of course, VFR pilots never have to worry about this, but being even 1,000ft on top can be bumpy in the summer.

@ragequit13 6 лет назад

What's the song you use during the outro?

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Newsroom

@ragequit13 6 лет назад

Thanks, now if you don't mind, I'm a keep binging your videos.

@blaintaylor9218 6 лет назад

Friendly Skies Film cc

@Aviationinmymind 6 лет назад

I find the American slang funny and also a bit worrying since it can be confusing. Standard fraseology should be used everywhere in my opinion. I agree on that one. The part where you mentioned approaching an airfield and asking data about the conditions and the runway in use, I do not agree. I have been taught to get airfield information ahead of time so I can prepare for the approach. This also means that visual check of the airfield is not required. Of course you can hear it from other aircraft's traffic announcements. All in all this video needed to be made!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Curious what your last line is referring to. As for getting the conditions of the airport, of course you should do that on your way in! It's just how people are doing it that's not recommended by the FAA. Using AWOS/ASOS/UNICOM is a great idea. Asking pilots what they're doing two seconds after changing frequencies and not even listening to the traffic, is not a great idea.

@Aviationinmymind 6 лет назад

Friendly Skies Film I'm afraid I'm not familiar with flying in America. We don't even have a UNICOM here. Of course it is good airmanship to wait for a second after tuning in on a new frequency.

@DaedricFaZe 6 лет назад

He is saying he would rather used forecast winds aloft than a Pilot Report.

@jimnew5813 6 лет назад

When I got my private 46 years ago, we didn't have AWOS or CTAF, communicating with an FBO was always called Unicom, and we asked for airport advisories. They would come back with the winds and any reported traffic.Now I just listen to the AWOS or if an airport doesn't have one fly over and look at the wind sock or listen to what other traffic is doing if any in pattern.

@davidtorrey5512 6 лет назад

Great Video! Keep up the great work and also a big thank you for talking with me on Monday!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Hey, I recognize that name! Seriously, let me know if you have any ideas for a collaboration we might do. I'm always looking for young aviators to bring into the channel! :)

@davidtorrey5512 6 лет назад

Friendly Skies Film ok! Thank you very much for the offer!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Blue Skies, my friend :)

@davidtorrey5512 6 лет назад

Friendly Skies Film Fair Winds!

@limp9 6 лет назад

Well done great video! I am a student pilot but recognize the "clear of the active" call probably 80% of the time at my local airport. My instructor taught me early on to announce the runway Number you are leaving. Never really understood until I had more hours under is my book and watching this video helps explain it even more thanks!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Glad you enjoyed, friend :)

@miaohmya92 6 лет назад

Let's not forget pilots who have a full-on reunion and exchange of life stories on the CTAF. "Billyyyy that you buddy?" "Yup I though that was you Jeb how's the rash 'ol buddy? and the fish and the kids? and the golf swing?" "Hahaha! Well Bill since we aren't busy now is a great time to go into exhausting detail about each of those things!" Meanwhile other people are thinking...well you know what.

@mickred04 6 лет назад

Just so I'm clear, I can say: "Mustang this is Voodoo 3, request permission for flyby"?

@craigmorgan8493 6 лет назад

mickred04 Only if u've downed 3 or 4 Migs beforehand! :)

@wildgurgs3614 6 лет назад

Negative, Voodoo 3. The pattern is full. *grabs coffee*

@Stoney3K 6 лет назад

Just give me a sec so I can get my ear protection on, if you really feel the need for speed.

@triskellian 6 лет назад

Announcing your position inbound to a non towered during an instrument approach can be kept simple and concise too! I've found it helpful to state CTAF name,N-number, distance,cardinal position from the airport and intentions.A VFR pilot in the pattern ,not familiar with IFR flight, would understand better where to expect the inbound traffic.

@thenoobletlego 6 лет назад

Really great video! Informative, and I think we all agreed with your points. Can't wait for another release.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Thanks, mate :)

@erika9287 6 лет назад

If you're a Piper Cub, I'm going to assume you're yellow. I don't know why that line made me laugh so hard

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Possible Martha's Vineyard Meetup for anyone local this Sunday at 5pm EST. Stay posted.

@xStevieBx 6 лет назад

Let me know if you ever find yourself in the Houston - NOLA area...

@NeuKrofta 6 лет назад

took my first flying lesson at Mansfield! do they still do airshows? I won a free flying lesson when I was like 12 years old

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

No airshows recently that I know of, sadly :(

@xStevieBx 6 лет назад

Friendly Skies Film Will you be at the air show in Houston this weekend?

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Huston TX!? The fuel's a little beyond my pay grade :P

@Falkirion 5 лет назад

One of my pet peeves is hearing every call end with over. Wasn't aviation related but I was working one night on a railway test/commissioning session and one test assistant ended all her calls on the radio with over. Drove me nuts having done flying training for 2 years

@Spartan536 3 года назад

I have used both the color scheme and the November designation for aircraft call-outs at untowered airports, not to evade landing fees, I could care less as I fly an Archer II and landing fees will be nil, but more so for aircraft description. Usually when I enter the airspace or when I am on downwind I will announce "XXXX traffic, XXXXXX is a Silver & White Piper Archer, entering XXXX downwind for runway XXXX, XXXX. The redundancy helps clear up any potential confusion, and then the callouts after are clarified, this helps with touch N go ops.

@gorillaau 6 лет назад

If you are a Piper Cub, I suggest changing the paint scheme. :-)

@georgewashington938 5 лет назад

after a successful landing your should call out 'happy endings'

@Xpyburnt_ndz 5 лет назад

LOVE the Piper Cub comment!!! LOL Good vid! Thnx!

@RandyMabusedJW 6 лет назад

I was taught to announce to uncontrolled airport in the same manner as at controlled. In essence, use full call sign during 1st transmission and then abreviate it on subsequent transmissions unless someone had same abreviated tail number in pattern.

@SeanAFoXy 5 лет назад

*"There's something on the wing!"*

@FISHH00KS 6 лет назад

"Airport" Traffic: ID, Location/Altitude, Intent, "Airport" The airport's standard operating procedures are published. Don't unnecessary use the airwaves. Mansfield traffic, Warrior 8027F is five miles to the west at 3,000 inbound for landing 32 Mansfield. ~ Mansfield traffic, Warrior 27F is entering downwind for 32 Mansfield. Mansfield traffic, Warrior 27F is turning base for 32 Mansfield. Mansfield traffic, Warrior 27F is on final for 32 Mansfield. Mansfield traffic, Warrior 27F is clear of 32 Mansfield. In other words, "tell me the time, don't build me a watch" You confuse people with a lot of information if it's not standardized. Notice how an ATIS briefing is formatted the same throughout the industry. None of this is my idea - complain to LTC (r) Doug Jamison XX,000 hours in "insert whatever aircraft you want here".....

@ItsAllAboutGuitar 6 лет назад

Yes, when it's standardized, it's easier to understand. Beautifully said. No one cares about stupid slang.

@pierreguillemot9525 6 лет назад

Great content as always keep it up!

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

I do my best :)

@pierreguillemot9525 6 лет назад

Friendly Skies Film well you do a damn good job! :P

@WolfcariusKoen 6 лет назад

Very good statement and many recognisable situations. For a non native English speaker, flying in Europe, this is even more true: a little bit slowing down the speed of speaking always helps to make oneself understandable.

@isellcatlitter 6 лет назад

negative Ghostrider the pattern is full

@jacksonm7 6 лет назад

Why am I watching this, I know nothing about flying a plane...

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

You do now! ;P

@fgap1 6 лет назад

it's not about flying an airplane. It's about talking to a microphone. flying an airplane is much simpler.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Lol never have truer words been spoken.

@smokingun397 6 лет назад

The pleasures of You Tube :-)

@AeroWilly974 6 лет назад

Very nice video captain ! 😉

@ianshere8899 6 лет назад

#2 I actually use, but in 2 different ways depending on what I've heard on the radio prior to getting anywhere near the pattern. I will usually tune in the CTAF frequency at least 15-20 miles out (our Bellanca whips along pretty fast so any later gives me little time to listen). If there's already traffic in the airport vicinity or pattern, chances are I'll hear the runway in use. Also, if there's any out of the ordinary WX, the same applies. If I hear no one I will ask for a WX advisory as many airports have people on the ground who will respond with info. I always check WX prior to leaving so, barring big changes, I already have a fair idea where the wind's coming from so, if no one responds I announce my intentions to land on the runway that suits. The only time I wouldn't just fly the approach is if my WX briefing indicated strong winds. I would then perhaps d a fly over above pattern to spot a windsock to confirm direction. As far as your last one, I was taught the regs way - full callsign. Occasionally it's be helpful (not necessarily useful) to hear "Red Cessna downwind for runway 22". Unless you're reasonably close to an aircraft, how far away is color useful? At 4-5 miles (especially tail or nose-on) it's impossible to tell color. Will telling me the color really aid me? IMHO, no. I just want to know where you are, and what your intentions are.

@schlusselmensch 6 лет назад

My pet peeve is "Conflicting traffic please advise". BELIEVE ME, if I think I'm going to run into you, I'll definitely speak up, and the sooner you shut up so I can do that, the better!! Also, I cannot believe how many lazy buggers and buggerettes leave out their damned altitude on position calls. That makes me have to ask them their damned altitude, and it interrupts my sleep.

@xX_Skraith_Xx 5 лет назад

I wake up in cold sweats hearing echos of "Airport traffic, Cessna 172 overflying the field, airport."

@MegaDavisB 5 лет назад

It's interesting and humorous at the same time: When I'm flying one of my company's 757s I can use any of these "unprofessional" colloquialisms at any time and the controllers (and perhaps other pilots) accept them without question or judgment. However, let me try using the same phrases in my Cessna 140, and brother, watch out! Here come the criticisms. I wonder why that is? I do think most controllers and other pilots unconsciously consider any pilot transmitting from any Cessna or Piper aircraft to be a low-time, inexperienced Private or Student pilot. What is it, bigger is better, or, might makes right...? Funny.

@joecarpenter4522 6 лет назад

FSF: well done sir. When I was building XC time towards my instrument rating, I started hearing pilots (of all frame sizes) say "here's the flash" "checking in" "with you at..." and I thought it was the cool thing to do. Then...I read Martha Lunkin's article about poor radio procedures and I changed my ways back to standard phraseology. I make it a point to use correct phraseology and I hope that more pilots will start seeing the light.

@billfarnham1592 6 лет назад

I laughed out loud at the yellow Piper Cub comment! First airplane I was ever in, at the age of about 4, an a former cornfield airport that sadly got turned into a dragstrip, was a yellow Piper Cub. That trip to an airport with my dad, when he stood me in the front seat of that Cub, started my love for all things aviation.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

@jarodb5897 6 лет назад

"With you" irritates the shit out of me. I fly for a living and can't believe how many professional pilots still say it.

@hyperspeed1313 6 лет назад

Asking as a student pilot, since that's how I've always initiated/been trained to initiate contact with approach or center; what is the correct method/phraseology then?

@jarodb5897 6 лет назад

Hyperspeed1313 I say, “good morning center, American 1234 at four thousand three hundred, climbing five thousand.” “With you” sounds really student pilot.

@josephgurgui8686 6 лет назад

I'm no pilot, just an aviation enthusiast. HOWEVER: Jarod B if nothing else, like when "checking in" with tower or something or when starting everything up, if only this, I'd just say my callsign and wait for a response. If none comes after several seconds, then I'd say "Tower" followed by my callsign.

@niceguy2171 6 лет назад

Or just "Center..American 1234 at 4,300 climbing to 5,000 on heading xxx"

@jandejong2430 3 года назад

Sometimes you only need to report on a new frequency, all information having been passed at the server side. Something like "with you" is exactly to the point.

@julianlosekoot5441 6 лет назад

A 15 mile final??? Excuse me I will be landing in 1 hour

@ericmattinen4728 6 лет назад

Is that you Julian, in the yellow Piper Cub, fighting a 50 mph headwind...LOL

@julianlosekoot5441 6 лет назад

Eric Mattinen what?

@jimnew5813 6 лет назад

Good point about the Piper Cub. I used to report "You've got a yellow cub downwind" etc. But as you say most Cubs are Yellow, so I just say Piper Cub downwind for runway 36, touch and go etc.and always naming the airport at beginning and end of transmission.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

haha I suppose if it actually applies to you, go ahead! I was just being cute ;)

@chris.D1 4 года назад

At 2:31, I like that you use the tail number from the Cessna from the TV show Wings, N121PP. lol

@matthewpinnock9158 6 лет назад

"No Joy" is actually an official military term and that's the we were taught to use

@notgaybear5544 5 лет назад

1. I'm going to try and do a barrel roll, and if that goes good I'll just go nose down and call it a night. 2. I play video games before so I know what I am doing 3. I want the coordinates to that orca...you know the one with the babies, i wanna go see that guy 4. Do you think if I land this successfully Alaska will give me a job as a pilot? 5. Ive got a lot of people that care about be. RIP #SkyKing

@AlyssaM_InfoSec Год назад

I know this video is 5 years old but I first saw it tonight and I appreciate it. Some of these are fun to discuss, some are dangerous, but either way it's professionalism as pilots that is the core point here. The one that annoys me is the "any traffic in the area" call. It's no big deal if you've got one maybe two planes in the pattern at the time. But get 3 or 4 in the pattern and now you've got all of those aircraft stepping on each other responding to the inbound aircraft and plugging up the CTAF. Worse yet when that CTAF is shared with other airports in the area that are within range. It's also frustrating because it's often a sign that the inbound pilot hasn't been listening to the CTAF on the way in and is being lazy by putting the onus on everyone else to make special calls telling him where they are on top of their normal calls they've already been making. Finally as you noted, it creates a false sense of security since there could be NORDOs in the pattern who won't be responding anyway. I got into a decently heated debate with Dan Gryder on this so I'm sure if anyone is reading these comments I'll probably get blasted, but IDC. It's a bad practice and even the FAA says don't do it.

@sigsav 6 лет назад

Friendly skies film, I just watched this and followed it with the video Piper Warrior Transitioning Class Bravo airspace. I had to laugh because I heard you use the phrase "In the Box". I assume that something you dont say any more. It just struck me as funny since it was the next video I watched. Love the channel. Keep up the good work and hope to run into you sometime.

@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 лет назад

Haha yeah, I try not to, but that one still gets out sometimes. I'm not perfect. What can I say ;P