The Omega Speedmaster Pro (Hesalite) is my daily watch… on a Nato Stap I never had any issues with winding the watch (you don’t have to pull the crown to wind it)…it’s super easy 😊
Agreed. This is a parody and presumably click bait material. Pathetic, truly. Imagine owning perhaps the single greatest all purpose watch (costing between $7,000 to $8,000) to complain about winding the watch every few days.
Jennie I follow you on YT and honestly this is the first time that someone say honestly flaws regarding owning certain watches. Most "experts" just claiming benefits and good sides...but majority is just marketing related nothing more. Bravo once more!!!
The Seagull ST19 is just a Swiss Venus 175 clone with additional jewels. Any watchmaker can work on it or if you don't want to spend servicing, just get a replacement ST19.
@@fdfac , well, that's inevitable with the cost of labour being what it is. In China, where most of Seagull's customers are, watchsmiths are still cheap enough to make servicing them worthwhile.
When it comes to the Powermatic 80 in the PRX I don't think it's too bad. Tissot service prices are affordable, they can calibrate it for you and the plastic pallet fork and escape wheel might be fine long term. I'm not against the use of modern materials in watches. It should be noted that I do calibrate one of my automatics myself (a cheap Vostok), so I know exactly what your point is. But I wouldn't say that it makes the PRX suck 😊 As for the Seiko 5 of course, it's personal preference. But I'm OK with moving my old Orient or popping into the winder 😊 I really don't mind.
@@fdfacit’s a hit or miss but I’ve had experience with the ST19 and they’re pretty good and reliable. I guess I got lucky. You should always anticipate the cost of service no matter how much it would cost. It’s a ridiculous logic to assume that “it’s cheap and service is expensive, therefore it’s junk”.
I've had a Speedy Pro for years, I have never found it difficult to wind and pop the crown to set the time......Yes, if it goes too long without being serviced the crown does seem to become a little stiff to wind, but I've never found it to be as bad as its made out here.....Get it serviced regularly but a reputable watch place and its always going to be great....I actually like manually hacking it to set the time, its part of the charm ..... Each to their own though..
When mine was new, I thought the crown was defective. I went back to the dealer and he simply told me it was normal adding that I will get used to it. After 15 years, with regular services, it is still the same. So I think Jenni is indeed right: we Speedmaster lovers just got used to it.
@@barorepor3079 I might go into a dealer and have a look at a new Speedmaster and see if it feels different to mine, maybe there is some inconsistency, I do remember on the last service they replaced the crown and it became even eaiser to use.....go figure....I need to give it more wrist time though as I really like it...
For those in the market for a used Speedy the 'First Omega In Space' model is very easy to operate the crown. But I agree, I don't find the crown difficult to operate.
I don’t own a PRX, yet I do own a Gentleman, and for the last 3 years it is keeping near perfect time, for an automatic. It loses less than 5 seconds in a week. Lees than 20 seconds per month. I don’t know if this piece is the exception- yet that is my personal experience. It’s a beautiful, elegant, very well made and accurate timepiece.
Apparently Swatch Group doesn’t actually service Tissot PRX movements, they just toss the movement and replace it with a new one. Pretty much anything below Longines is considered a disposable movement
Loads of expensive brands do this. It’s been pretty much proven to happen Tudor, Omega, Brietling, and even Rolex. It costs manufacturers a fraction of a full service cost for a brand new movement. Only reason some service them is many of their customers are brain dead and think their mechanical inanimate object has some kind of soul. Most will replace the dial, hands, indices, crystals, and straps without a second thought in a service. If the movement needs more than an oiling and a basic part that gets replaced too.
@@drdesign6886 really? Once you get to the higher end, many of the movements have serial numbers that match the case serial number. Do they just etch the original serial number on a replacement movement?
It is simply cheaper to replace the movement rather than pay the time labor of servicing the old movement, and the watch gets back the owner quicker as an end result. It's a win-win.
@@drdesign6886 Not sure about the others,but Tudor does not throw away its movements,they refurbish it,meaning they put a serviced movement they already have on stock and then they service the movement,that will be used in another watch in the future. That allows them a lower servicing time and customers won't need to wait until their watches are fully disassembled and serviced.
I have 2 Seiko 5 vintage pieces. I love the dial designs, but being automatic with no hand-winding, it's a pain to keep them running. Adjusting the time is also a nuisance, because the crowns are tiny and don't pull out far enough to be comfortable to operate.
You touched on my biggest pet peeve when I owned a Speedmaster. Can't Omega make the crown a tiny bit thicker? I just don't understand why they won't do that!
I’m laughing so hard about the moonswatch! 😂 Everyone was going crazy for those and I wasn’t a fan at all. Felt like a lot of hype and looks like I was right 😂😂😂
I agree the Omega Speedmaster sucked to own. It’s one of those watches that seems like a great idea when you get it but then you realize all the many more downfalls once you live with it for a while. You don’t realize how much you miss having a date, you don’t realize how bad the bracelet is with no on the fly micro adjustments (I believe they fixed that) you realize how inaccurate the movement is and that there is no hacking, and as someone who basically lives my life with my watch, it has to go everywhere with me, at times I take a dip in the pool, the omega Speedmaster unfortunately isn’t a pool kind of a watch so once I had other watches in my collection and the Speedmaster started getting less and less wrist time until I sold it.
Everyday morning winding my manual watches and some of the automatic ones also is a wonderful ritual ! Connects me with all the watches, keeps them in rotation. Never found it cumbersome or a waste of time. Infact, nowadays with see through case backs, I purposely look for manual winding so that half the mechanism is not hidden by the auto winding rotor !
The tiny crown on the Speedy is one of the reasons why I'm wearing a Mark II instead, same crown but 56h automatic movement which allows me to alternate with my other pieces during the week-end, for exemple.
I sold my Royal Oak 15400 because the bracelet was not comfortable; even when sized perfectly. Any watch bracelet that does not feature some kind of extension link will not work for a lot of people. Keep the videos coming Jenni!!
It is, but the Santos has a huge feature that can help prevent scratches. It has one of the best (if not THE best) instant bracelet change systems in the business. So if you feel like you'll be in a situation where the watch may get roughed up a bit (maybe a night on the town), you can switch it to a leather or rubber strap and keep the bracelet clean.
The Sea-Gull 1963 is indeed a great watch. I would recommend buying the original from Sea-Gull (not from the Chinese third-party companies) - it costs more, but the quality of craftsmanship is much better (including the movement which is much more beautifully finished) - and it's significantly less prone to errors than the many variants (unfortunately, there's no sapphire glass back for the 1962/1963). I can judge this quite well because I have 8 watches with the ST19 movement - 4 of which are directly (original) from Sea-Gull. I never had any problems with the Sea-Gull variants, and when one of them was severely damaged in a bike accident, it was also repaired cost-effectively by a watchmaker in Germany.
"Suck" and "Huge pain in the ass" are both big exaggerations for winding the Speedmaster. As a Speedy owner, I would consider it a "minor inconvenience" at most.
Being forced to use a specific 'technique' to wind _any_ watch is evidence of bad design. While winding a watch can be a nice little ritual, if doing so creates even a bit of hassle, it's a non-starter, and should never have left the design table.
Hi Jenni, Just saw this and was surprised that the Seiko 5 was still there. I bought one at least 30 years ago just as I like the very dark blue dial. Do not wear it much but still runs. I agree with tough crowns, my complaint is gold ones when they wear down.
Hmm.. I owned a Speedy Pro and found the winding to be fairly easy, esp after you own it for a while and the mechanism loosens up a bit and you also get used to it. I will say though I didn't think it was a very good daily wearer for other reasons. You still DO have to wind it, only 50M WR, and no date. But those same factors made it a terrific piece in a fairly large collection.
Fun video as always. I own the Seagull, PRX 80, and about a dozen Seiko 5's. Luckily I haven't had any issues yet. I'm also hoping to get a Speedy this year. So I have that to look forward to. About your Seiko... You can replace that 7S26 movement with a NH36 that has hacking and hand winding. It's the same movement as a 4R36, just not Seiko branded. The NH series is what all the Seiko modders use. So, if you know someone into modding Seiko's, ask them to do it.
My PRX runs at +2.7s/d, well within COSC standards. You think I should be disappointed that its accuracy can’t be improved? I love your videos, but that complaint seems silly to me.
She's just jumping on the RU-vidr bandwagon of bagging out the movement of the PRX due to "plastic" parts and "serviceability". The movement just gets replaced if any problems, just like most watches.
The PRX movement is laser-regulated (whatever that means) at the factory. My other mechanical watches do not approach the accuracy of my PRX and PR100.
I have the 3861 - never had the thought that it is difficult to wind. Had to go get it and see.. not even remotely an issue. Maybe an issue for smaller fingers? When it debuted there were comments the edges were sharp. Sure, maybe. Yet, not an issue either. I love it.
This video is just so thoughtless and devoid of meaningful content. Like it is extraordinary click-bait level stuff. Poor effort. "This watch sucks because it scratches"; "this watch sucks because it is cheap"... seriously???
Im sorry but I have the hesalite moon watch. You buy it knowing that its a manual wind. Thats part of the appeal. If like me you were born in the 60s, all cheap watches for kids were manual wind at that time. You were around to see the Apollo 11 mission on TV as it unfolded. You watched a grainy image of Armstrong walking down the steps on the Eagle and stepping onto the moon. Hence the appeal of the watch and the manual wind to me - a fair bit of nostalgia. It doesn’t suck if you get it. Perhaps it sucks that you dont.
Interesting. This one should get some lively comments. I find Moonswatch dial is just too busy for me. Simple and uncluttered dials work for me. Cheers from Texas, USA.
I am not sure if you have the experience of older version of speedmaster pro or you didn't use it much. I have my cal 3861 speedy pro version, after 1 month of use the winding mechanism is very very smooth and easy to wind, I even only need to use one tip of finger to wind it from the rear. And it is.... a first watch ever that I enjoy to wind it up.
I love my PRX, it's accurate enough for me especially since I own and wear different watches weekly so the adjustment complaint isn't a big deal. My local watch shop also doesn't think it's difficult to adjust if needed. My complaint about the PRX is the tiny crown.
I second LMNY1: Winding my Speedy every day is the nostalgia I seek. And though I might never make it to space, my son might (if we don't destroy the planet beforehand).
I’ve had my AP 15202 for 10 years now and i wear it approx once a week. It remains a consistent part of my rotation. It hardly has any scratches on it. Admittedly, i am more aware of my surroundings in general when i wear it but Im happy with the way its holding up
Thanks for calling out the Powermatic 80. My watchmaker told me never to buy one as they’re unserviceable. Drives me crazy when the 2824 was such a great movement!
I would love to own a Seagull 1963 just to add some variety in my collection but, getting the genuine version (which you appear to have) has been problematic. Unfortunately their prices have increased (but not their quality control) so it gives many a pause on whether to purchase it or not.
I own 2 Seiko 5's with the 7S26 movement and always enjoy the shake to get it fired up. You have to figure in the bang for buck when these watches were around $100 bucks to buy back in the day. For Omega, I would get annoyed with the bezel action on the Seamaster (if I owned one). So it is a pass for me but I've heard many owners are disappointed with the action.
first I'm biase when it comes to tissot , so for the prx automatic, people bought it for its unique style . and if changing the movement is the cost then they would accept, especially that it won't need changing within a decade and won't be extremely expensive, so cost wise it can be acceptable. but this is my biased opinion though i didn't buy the prx yet .
The Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch difficult to hand wind? Naah.. I (fortunately maybe) haven’t had that problem. But yes, this is certainly true of other Speedmasters: one of them is the Triple Date. Now that is a major PIA to wind, the Speedmaster 1957 (the Broad arrow with the blued hands and markers) isn’t much better. These are automatics, yes, but if you haven’t worn them for sometime and decide to wind them- be prepared for some stress..😊
Agree with your assessment of the Moonwatch. The problem is not that the crown is deep, the problem is that the crown is squared and at winding the corners push your fingers to the pushers around. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but will never be my everyday watch.
Jenni, thank you for telling it “like it is”when it comes to the Omega Speedmaster Pro. I once made the mistake of buying one of those pieces of junk. They really do “suck”.
I’ve owned a Chinese Seagull 1963 for about 6/7 yrs now, however I never really wear it. It is just wound and admired occasionally, so hopefully servicing shouldn’t be a problem for a while. Meanwhile my 26 yr old Rolex GMT has been worn every day for many years, without any problems or inaccuracies(maybe I should get it serviced some time, but it always is absolutely reliable).
Will only own Self-Winding Autos after the Speedmaster. I have Proctologist sized sausage fingers like our old mail carrier. Thankfully my father’s small build and smaller hands make it perfectly usable for him- and his generation already used to winding their own watches. Now it’s the Scratch Magnet Yacht-master with Red Second hand, but I am happy now😊
The one problem with manual wind is that you wear the seals out faster, requiring more frequent servicing if you need to maintain the water resistance. If water resistance is a non issue for you, who cares?
The problem with servicing cost doesn't seem to be exclusive to "cheap" Chinese watches. At least if my local watch-maker's prices are anything to go by. About a year or so back I brought in my father's ghastly gold dress watch (think Gruen Precision with a gold Milanese bracelet ... *shudder*) for a long overdue service and that cost me nearly EUR 300. IIRC, the movement is a pretty standard automatic ETA affair, so nothing too fancy. And it's not like the watch-maker in question was a luxury store... far from it, actually - more like a small mom-and-pop local watch-maker in a relatively normal part of town. I guess that would be another reason to try and go for Rolex and Rolex only - because even though their servicing cost will be higher still, at least there's a good chance the watch's value will either stay constant or even increase - so servicing it could be viewed as simply taking care of your investment.. :)
I had an Omega Speedmaster automatic. It was beautiful, stainless, gold bezel, pushers and crown, with a white face on a leather band. So beautiful. However, when i put my hand in my pocket the stem would get caught, pop out and mess up the time, This made it totally unreliable to wear.
I own a speedy and winding it is what you sign up for if you want one so I completely disagree It’s not even that big of a deal for such a gorgeous, perfect and timeless chronograph Yes it’s not like my 30 dollar Casio I can just put on and jump into the ocean with but that’s precisely why you shouldn’t just own a single watch if you can
To have to winding a watch that is really old style and for that price! I had over 15 watches mostly Swiss a few Japanese and German they all break or need service after a while therefore I switched to Eco or Solar Drive (as well they are more accurate )less cumbersome and make life easy. Now Im 75 years old I like to have convenience. I did have a winding watch from IWC EVENTUALLY IT BROKE AND NO SPARE PARTS!!!!!. I had a golden Rolex that broke as well.
Mmmmm. Omega speedy moon watch. Disagree. It allows you to wind it daily, I can get to the winder as necessary. And to be fair it’s pretty gorgeous too….
At the moment any luxury watch sucks. One can't wear it in public at any bigger city due to possibility to be mocked down or worse by some thugs to steal it.
Casio Royale Steel bracelet is the GOAT. Accurate, 5 alarms, 48 city world time, stopwatch, timer, Amber light, 100m WR, 10 year battery and $29. No contest
My daily wear is my Speedmaster that I bought 15 years ago. It is a total pain to wind and adjust. It is the worst crown design I have have ever seen. Perhaps they changed that in the later models.
Informative video. Some good warnings. Not sure the Speedmaster manual wind deserves such a comment. I use it regularly and never mind winding it. The hesalite crystal scratching is worse imo.
Das muss ich auch sagen liebe Jenny, habe die aktuelle Speedy Sapphire Sandwich, und das tägliche Aufziehen ist vielleicht minimal nervig weil die Krone klein ist, aber es klappt trotzdem gut und die Speedy ist mega geil. Also weit weg von „suck to own“ ;)!! Ansonsten super Video wie immer. Beste Grüße ✌️
OMG, I was triggered so many times by this video. I’m unsubscribing for a more inclusive channel. The white european systemic cultural patriarchy is treating us like a backward culture being colonized. We must speak equally well of all brands because we don’t know what lived experiences they have and what favortisms they’ve had to battle. Let’s not offend anyone!
@@matthiaswalters3384 How very condescending, that you would attribute legitimate and pertinent comments (furthering the discussion) that don’t align with your limited world views as being caused by a bad night! This is why your government is systemically and colonially racist! This leads to genocide! Wake up folks!
I had a Speedmaster 2020 Tokyo Olympics with the Panda dial. Really beautiful and loved it. But it left my collection for exactly what you mentioned; hand winding the tiny crown.
Winding the moon watch is not annoying or difficult ,picking it up in the morning and winding it is what makes it special for me , if you can’t make the effort to wind your watch , hard to call yourself a watch lover . People say anything these days to get views
Hey Jenni - totally agree about the manual Speedmaster. A manual watch that you can't wind is a guaranteed recipe for frustration. The AP and Patek suck more because one can't own them:((
I don’t mind winding a watch every day. have been trying the Speedy for 2 years now on wrist, but have not yet bought one. The one I‘d buy immediately (snoopy 50y anniversary), I probably won’t get, and the regular‘ Speedy with it’s very basic dial colors, is probably too boring for me.
I have had my Speedmaster Pro for seven years now. Yes, the Omega has somewhat of an issue with winding, but by no means does it "Suck" to own! Love the channel Jenni!! 😎👍
Got a 5711 and was my daily watch for 4 years. Every year had some issue with it and it had to be serviced. Even if covered by warranty the watch was 2-3 months away at PP service center. During last services I had it polished (yes, it is a scratch magnet) and did not wear it since. It is a great watch but “high maintenance”. I am back to Rolex and JLC.
