Regarding the Second Death Star, in Return of the Jedi, Emperor Palpatine basically tells us he was behind the Alliance knowing about it. It was his trap, his plan, and his motivations.
Exactly, Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be canon, wasn't it? It was a huge multimedia project back in the day, with a book, comics and a video game.
@@kevinclapson I agree. It didn’t need an explanation. And it’s never as simple as “they were told to be his servant”. There always has to be a convoluted story around it.
Everyone who owned the original Death Star Playset knew what the trash compactor creature's species was, as it was literally stated on the box. Aside from all the parts and stickers for the playset itself, included were foam "trash" pieces and Dianoga creature. Instead of a bunch of tentacles, it had wings and two long tails. but it did have the single eye stalk.
The Dianoga retreated when the compactor sounds kicked in, not due to Han's shooting. Han stands ready to shoot again as we hear the compactor prepare to start. The Dianoga releases Luke and goes off to its safety spot to avoid getting crushed itself, hence the Dianoga being able to roar after the three get out of compactor 3263827...
The compactor creature did not let go of Luke because Han fired at it. It let go shortly before the room started compacting. The creature knew it had to get out and abandoned it's prey.
And then we learn it was some kind of Force Baptism that ended up being how Luke managed to resist the Dark Side in RotJ all because Omi (the Dianoga's name) was Force-sensitive and sensed a seed of the Dark Side that Luke had inherited from Anakin, and she (yes, she) had to get it out of him.
Nobody knew Padmé was carrying twins until she was in the birthing chamber. As for changing Luke's name, the Empire cared so little about Tattooine that it really didn't matter. What would have drawn attention was "Luke Skywalker from Tattooine" enlisting in the Imperial Academy.
No one outside of Sidious and maybe Tarkin knew that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Both of them were too busy running the Empire to be worried about a cadet application. Luke was quite anonymous until Vader sensed that the Force was strong with him on the first Death Star run.
funny how even in the future of Star Wars with all the amazing advance tech - medicine still sux that the twins weren't known in advance ...and even Anakin was unaware with all his force power perception bs
@@BlackSailfin - Padme simply did not go see an OBGyn - not everyone does. Plus, Padme and Anakin were trying to keep their relationship on the down low. IF Padme would have gone to see an OBGyn, ultrasound scans would have been done, and the twins would have been discovered way before delivery day.
Early in "The Empire Strikes Back" the emperor contacts Vader via hologram and mentions the son of Skywalker as a new threat. THAT is when Vader learned he had a son.
Issue 6 of the canon 2015 Darth Vader series shows how he found out: He hired Boba Fett to track down the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. Boba Fett tells Vader that he didn't track him down, but he did find out his name. Vader asks and Boba simply says "Skywalker". Darth Vader then puts two and two together and figures out that he has a son.
@@roberthogberg3300 Vader's conversation with Sidious afterward contradicts that. He didn't know that "Skywalker" was the son of Anakin until Sidious told him that. If going by their conversation, even though he knew that the pilot who destroyed the Death Star was named Skywalker, he didn't know that the pilot was Anakin's son. This was probably due to Vader's hatred for Anakin.
3po taking the arm is less like wearing your friends scalp, and more like using your friends prosthetic arm to replace your own prosthetic. Also, the Lars lived with Shmi for an unknown amount of time with no signs of disharmony. They likely were the ones who chose to keep Luke's surname in honor of Shmi.
Vader flew around for 2 weeks trying to get a signal. Also in Empire Strikes Back, Palpatine tells Vader that the pilot that blew up the Death Star was named Luke Skywalker. Wouldn't have taken much for Vader to put it together. And then in the Special Edition, Palpatine's explicitly states that Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker.
IIRC correctly, Boba Fett tells Darth Vader that Luke is a Skywalker long before Palpatine does. Vader keeps this information to himself. In fact, much of the comic series' arc was Vader searching out information on his own, sowing a growing distrust between himself and the Emperor.
@@steventitch4169 That was in a comic that came out long after the movies. But even going on that comic, Vader didn't sense Luke was his son, only that the pilot who blew up the Death Star had some connection to the Force. So him not sensing Leia is his daughter still makes sense. Especially since at the time she was held prisoner on the Death Star, she'd had no training to use the Force, so there was nothing for Vader to sense about her.
But at the very least, Vader already knew Luke's surname during the battle of Hoth. So Palpatine really didn't tell him much more than he already knew.
I always assumed that after the Death Star was destroyed, and Vader was picked up by his Imperial cruiser (they weren't Star Destroyers until ep 5), he had some downtime to read the after action reports from Tatooine. When he read that the Lars couple that were murdered were raising a boy named Luke Skywalker, everything just fell into place.
personally was never confused by how Vader found out Luke was his son. To me it was obvious, that after he sensed that the Rebel pilot who destroyed the Death Star had the Force with him, and was powerful, he would become obsessed with finding out who was that pilot. During his research into Luke’s background he probably realized his full name was Skywalker. Just like his real name before he became Darth Vader, and since he was strong with the Force, he strongly suspected that that pilot was indeed his long lost son he never knew existed. But since Vader secretly always planned to eventually overthrow his master, he decided not to tell the Emperor, or anyone about what he has just found out. In the scene where the Emperor tells Vader that he has a son, and that it is Luke Skywalker, Vader has known already, but simply never brought it up until then, the Emperor probably found out the truth about Luke himself. (he likely has his own sources, or simply foresaw the truth through the Force or something) Heck, it’s even possible the Emperor was the one who told Vader about Luke being his son in the first place, prior to the events of The Empire Strikes Back. So I never understood why it was ever a question how Vader knew Luke was his son. Vader isn’t stupid. He probably found out the name of the pilot who in a way defeated and humiliated him so he can get revenge on him, then recognized they both have the same surname, and adding the whole attunedness in the Force, it was unlikely to be a mere coincidence.
You can make a whole list of these for just the sequel trilogy. A lot of moments there where the writers were like "let's do this, this sounds cool. Oh, crap, how do explain this? Uhh... that's a story for another time."
I agree. There is so many continuity errors that pop up because it seems the writers of the prequels ignored what was said and done in the original trilogy.
The Tag & Bink comics clearly taught us that the Bothans blatantly took credit for discovering the second Death Star from that true hero, Manny Both-hands!
I feel obliged to create time stamps: 8: 0:28 When did Darth Vader get a servant? 7: 1:36 Does General Grievous have Asthma? 6: 2:41 Who is Lobot? 5: 3:54 Why is C-3PO's arm red? 4: 5:01 What was that "thing" in the trash compactor? 3: 6:05 Where does Darth Vader go after A New Hope? 2: 7:09 How did the rebels know about the second Death Star? 1: 8:19 How did Vader know Luke was his son?
Shadows of the Empire is an amazing novel that details much of the events occuring between TESB and ROTJ, like how did the rebels find out where Han was, how did Leia get a hold of the Bounty Hunter suit, Luke building his green saber, oh, and yeah, the Bothans who died getting the plans for the 2nd Death Star. There is also a great encounter between Darth Vader and Luke, in which Vader actually saves Luke's life by stopping his ship from getting blasted. This novel would have made for a great movie... too bad all "creative efforts" were destined to the most recent film trilogy...
Too bad Lucas himself didn't have the thought to make it when he could have, instead of the "creative efforts" that were destined to making the Prequel trilogy...
It’s interesting since in return of the Jedi Mon Mothma straight up says that they learned this info thanks to Bothan spies who died in order to provide it. Bothans our a race of aliens mentioned in the Star Wars canon frequently, but never actually shown in the movies however, the comic you are talking about puts all the credit in the hands of a few humans, creating something of a plot hole in my opinion.
Also the whole story of events connecting episodes 5 and 6 can be found in the books and comics called SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. How Boba Fett runs into competitors trying to get Han Solo from him before he gets to deliver him to Jabba. How Leia got the bounty hunter outfit she shows up wearing in Jabba’s palace when she enters with Chewbacca as her ‘prisoner’. Also how Luke constructed his green lightsaber is told in that comic. And the information which Palpatine leaks to Prince Xizor’s criminal organization, from whom the Bothan spies received their information about the second Death Star’s location. Especially the information of the battle station not yet being operational. Excellent storytelling all together.. loved how these gap filling bits complete every detail between eps 5 and 6
@@alfobetic4397 Unfortunately, shadows of the empire is also officially not canon anymore either. Sure Xizor has showed up in Star Wars cartoons since but so has Thraawn and every one of his appearances in books published before the Disney acquisition are also officially not canon. Disney made it very clear when they acquired Lucas film, that nothing other than the original live action movies in the clone wars cartoon where it officially part of the story anymore, but they have sent started including characters, people like after the failure of their sequel trilogy. For example, anything, and everything containing the character Mara Jade no longer count as official cannon in any way, shape, or form. But seriously, Google “Is Shadows of the Empire” canon? The very first thing that comes up is a quote confirming that it has completely lost its canon status. So, unfortunately, even if you love something from the old Star Wars universe, it’s still almost certainly no longer official and can’t be referred to any longer as something that officially clears up modern Star Wars questions.
Lucke should have changed his name you are right but the Emperor him self tells Vader "The Son of Skywalker" and his response is "How is this so?" its as if THEN was when he found out.
It might have been the fault of Owen or Beru that Luke knew his surname. Maybe one or both of them used Anakin's rightful name when telling tales, or maybe Shmi's name was on her grave and they told Luke that was his grandmother. Therefore as Luke grew into his teens he clung to the name as an icon of the father he didn't know, so when he came to rescue a Coreworlder princess, it is automatic for him to say "I'm Luke Skywalker!". Certainly he would have been insistent enough about the name that Biggs and their friends knew Luke considered himself a Skywalker. Which, on that thought, I am reminded of Tattooine Slave Culture fanon. There was an enterprising writer only a few years ago that wrote a really good fanfic series about Vader being a double agent, and a Tumblr blog expounding on the slave culture in the fic series that has given rise to a whole fanon theme that writers will toss in to expand on both Anakin and Luke's backgrounds. In it, names like Skywalker, Darklighter and Whitesun are slave stock surnames, with at least the original slave culture writer's story holding that Beru was granddaughter to a freed slave and raised Luke in knowing the slave culture, particularly knowing the recipes and family traditions she learned from Shmi, so Luke would have the true Skywalker heritage (one of which is recipes for a spiced tea that varies from family to family). At leats between the like of Luke and Biggs, there would be a shared understanding of being the freeborn sons of slave families, and maybe Beru told Luke his father had been a freed slave, and probably likewise about his grandmother, so Luke clung to the Skywalker name because it says a lot about him being freeborn. So maybe Luke was initially "Luke Lars", but he got told stories about his father and insisted he was Luke Skywalker instead.
I believe the fact Vader was Anakin was a secret known by very few people. Aside from Obi-Wan, Yoda, Ashoka, and Bail Organa, everybody else was led to believe Anakin died in battle against Vader. If Owen snd Beru were allowed to believe that as well, they may not have felt there was a reason to change Luke's name. Also at the time Luke was left in their care, Tatooine was not under the control of the Empire. Leia, on the other hand, was adopted by someone who was aware Anakin became Vader, and understood the need to change her last name.
@@RemyJackson You're right about Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Bail Organa knowing about Vader, but Ahsoka didn't know. She found out during the events of the Rebels cartoon, and was shocked when she found out. The real question is whether or not she knew that Yoda and Obi-Wan were alive, which we still don't know.
@yagsyags5694 Sorry, I should have specified what time frame I was referring to. I was referring to the starting point if the original trilogy. But I didn't actually know when Ashoka found out, so thanks for giving me that info. But I feel if very many people had known Vader was Anakin, the Rebel Aliance would have never trusted Luke. I know it apparently became public knowledge sometime between Episodes 6 and 7, destroying Leia's political career.
It’s funny because it absolutely is the reason grievous is supposed to be coughing in the movie originally but since then the old Star Wars clone wars cartoon in which this occurred has become officially UN-canon. The CGI clone wars is the official part of the backstory now and it does not feature grievous suffering any injuries resulting in a cough.
You know, I'm just a little bit more than salty over people calling Solo a bad movie. I *thoroughly* enjoyed it, particularly because of the little nods to the "Han Solo Trilogy" of books, including the story beats that were obviously pulled from said trilogy and rewritten. In fact, I feel it made the movie better, as it didn't outright completely invalidate the EU novels.
Maybe Luke didn’t change his name because Skywalker is not a unique name in Universe. It might be common on Tatooine for all we know. And Vader knew the guy who blow up the Death Star was strong with the force. Then he searched his feelings and knew it to be true.
You also forgot that Lobot stuck around Cloud City and help Lando escape, but was captured by Imperial Stormtroopers and was plugged into the city's computers to him run it.
I don’t think any one ever rly questioned where Vader went a new hope. I’m sure most people like myself assumed he just flew to the nearest imperial outpost and called for a ship to pick him up. No need for some crazy back story.
I always felt that because they had 2 kids, Luke was able to keep his surname to draw Vader out. He was bait. That’s why Obi-wan stuck around. He was waiting for Vader to come and investigate the child named Skywalker like him on the same planet he was born on. Like the universe delivered him. Ben just didn’t count on Vaders fear of the planet. Once he did, he stopped hanging around the farm and let Luke grow up with the only family that was known.
I think luke was bait for vader but uncle owen prevented obi wan from using the kid like that and is why he kept the kid from the academy. he was probably registered with that name by obi wan to draw vaders attention and owen was not able to have it changed without causing more attention
@@robertlipsett2535 - interesting, you’d think Owen would be afraid of Obi-Wan. Then again, once seeing the situation didn’t care. He wanted to protect Luke. That would fit in with the story. Or the original movie.
@@auntiem873 obi wan took anakin away and trained him to be a jedi. anakin was angry near owen and mad at the family for not helping his mother. owen did not want anything to do with jedi or bring anakin back any where near him. in the end it still got him killed
5:03, There was a book called StarToons I believe that talked about this creature which showed that the fandom at the time called it a 'scrod'. I remember several cartoons where they gave it different personas like 'sherlock scrod'
The emperor clearly states that he allowed the Rebels to learn of it's existence and location. The Bothans who died did so only to make it all look like they were really stealing the information. If Papa Palps had wanted it kept secret, ALL of the Bothans would have died.
Who gave Luke his Jedi training? Jedi training is long and laborious. Luke trained with Yoda for essentially a weekend during Empire, before going off to Cloud City where he finds out his lineage. He asks Yoda and Obi-Wan about Vader/Anakin in Return of the Jedi. If Luke went back to Dagobah between Ep V and VI wouldn't he have brought that up at least once?
He received rudimentary lessons from Kenobi, then spent several years tracking down as much information as possible on Jedi training techniques - he definately didn't know how to Pull his lightsaber to his hand at the end of A New Hope - and Han says that with the Falcons' sublight engines - and maybe a backup hyperdrive - the trip to Bespin would take several weeks, or a month, so Luke got more training than you think. Plus the time traveled made Han and Leias' burgeoning romance more believeable.
@@Frostmourne86 But the timing still is all over the place with ESB. And it is true: Luke didn't really get a lot more training than Rey, yet she is supposed to be the Mary Sue. You need to come up with a lot of made up BS which is never spelled out in the movies to explain this in Luke's case. Just watching the movies, I always thought he is somehow talented, uses the force by instinct when flying and pulling the lightsaber was the first time he really tried something like that.
The original dialogue with the Emperor and Vader was “the son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.” He kinda told him there, but the later releases change that dialogue.
LOL...I remember watching it for the 200th time after seeing John Ratzenberger in the credits (Cliff from Cheers). I finally realized he was the rebel soldier on Hoth that says "Sorry your highness, the shield doors must be closed" when Luke/Han didnt return.
The Rebels would have spread the story of the Death Star's destruction across the galaxy, including the name of the pilot responsible for it. Vader already knew he was strong in the Force. Given they have the same surname it really wouldn't be difficult for him to figure it out.
Even without the comics, we really don’t need an expansion on where Vader went after the Battle of Yavin. Researched will point out that the TIE Advanced x1 unlike a TIE Fighter has hyperdrive (and shields; just something else a TIE Fighter doesn’t have); so clearly without the comics, a simple explanation is Vader jumped to an Imperial base, or Coruscant . . . Edit: The correct answer to how the Rebels learned of the second Death Star is “Play X-Wing Alliance with Ace Azzameen” :3
That's not actually what happened to Darth Vader after the Battle of Yavin. That comic is non-canon. He was adrift and was retrieved by a shuttle sent by his Star Destroyer, the Devastator.
The Emperor himself claims that he let the Rebels know about DS2. Remember "Its A Trap!"??? Always take the expanded materials with a big grain of salt. For me, if the movies contradict the extra stuff, the movies ALWAYS dictate what is canon. Whether you like it or not.
Maybe the naming conventions on Tatooine are like those in Westeros: bastards are all given the name Skywalker. As a result, there are a ton of Skywalkers running around, and one more wouldn't draw any attention.
That does remind me of a couple questions I've had. 1) Why didn't the empire look up every person with "Skywalker" in their name and kill them? It seems that force sensitivity is hereditary, so why not just make sure there are no more distant relatives and deal with it before it becomes a problem. 2) At the beginning of RotJ, Vader mentions how the progress of the second Death Star is behind schedule, to which the commander replies that he needs more men. Why doesn't the emperor just give him more men, if it's so important for it to be finished on time? It's not like they would have anything better to do.
Don't forget, Han Solo did NOT shoot Vader's TIE fighter. He only shot the guy on Vader's right. The other TIE Fighter pilot then panicked and crashed into Vader's TIE fighter. The only thing that saved Luke's life was that moment of panic.
Two videos in from this channel and it’s already obvious that more googling was done to find answers to questions no one was asking rather than even watching and knowing the original films for easy blatant answers to many of them.
"Luke Lars" lol! When I was young, I was led to believe that Luke was known as Wormy Lars around Tosche Station, "Wormy" because he was the smallest of all his friends.
Two very possible answers to the "Skywalker" name question. First, it's possible Skywalker is a very common name, like Smith, Jones, Lee, etc. Just because someone is a Skywalker, doesn't mean he is any relation to Anakin or Smee Second possible answer; When Kenobi delivered the baby to Lars and Beru and told them the boys name, he believed Anakin was DEAD.
The second answer doesn't quite cut it, though. Obi-Wan knew hiding Luke was part of the big plan of training him at some point so he could defeat the Emperor. The Emperor could be looking for any "Skywalker", some kind of alert in all databases would actually make sense, so as soon as Luke applies for the Imperial Academy (which he plans to do, as mentioned in ANH) or gets as much as a speeding ticket on an Empire-controlled world he'd set off an alarm. Further, even if it is somehow implied Obi-Wan never knew Anakin had survived past Mustafar, he learned about the existence of Darth Vader at some point, and knew he was Anakin. So he should have run to Owen and Beru ASAP and told them: "This is Luke Lars now, I don't care this sounds ridiculous!!!" Simple answer: Not even the creators knew Luke was Vader's son when they came up with the name. I can live with that and accept that it is a minor plothole not to change his name.
I didn't ask myself since when Vader has a servant. I would rather ask how did I come to it. But actually it was for me a natural thing for a Lord of the Sith to have a servant. But the most important question should be, why Owen Las never thought to chance Lukes Suriname, being so worried about Obi-Was presence. The surname of the boy is a much glaring mistake.
Anwer: When Luke Skywalker was created, nobody knew his father Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Including the creators. Mystery solved. It later became a minor plothole. I think we can deal with it and don't have to come up with silly excuses.
Vader's ship had hyperdrive. He just zoomed back to the fleet. How did the rebels know about the 2nd Death Star? It's made pretty clear in RotJ that Palpatine has been leaking intelligence to draw the fleet to him. Why did this need further explanation?
No, at that time Vader already knew. It's even stated in the opening crawl: "The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes..."
The reason general grievous was coughing in revenge of the sith it was because Mac windu force crushed his chest plate which resulted in him having his eternal organs critically damaged
Lucas knew the secret of Vader - he wrote the script! Actors David Prowse and Mark Hamill didn't know....... I seem to recall David Prowse's line was written / scripted as "Obi-wan is your father". That was later dubbed by James Earl Jones to "No, I am your father:" Luke's reaction would be the same either way. Only Mark was told the real truth shortly before doing the scene by Irvin Kershner, the Director.
Skywalker could be a common name. Maybe it's like Smith, or Jones. A traditional name of descendents of space pilots. Maybe there are a dozen other Skywalkers on Tattooine of similar age, and Vader did not know that his son was named Luke. Leia, on the other hand, being raised by Senators and not just a couple of farmers, needed extra protection from being found. Luke was just a farmboy, and would not have drawn attention. As far as we know, Owen and Beru may have been Obi-wan's family who Anakin knew little about. Luke could have been just one of a dozen farmboys of similar age named Skywalker on Tattooine, and Anakin had no way of knowing that his son was named Luke. Only when Luke joined the Rebel Alliance and was shown to be strong in the force would he have stood out. One more thing: a few of the newer movies are very good. But I consider only the six movies made by Lucas himself to be canon.
I have a question that confuses me. When i went on holiday to Turkey in 2007, i was amazed by how many of these Turkish people, many of who lived in villages & had never been to England, spoke English. I'm English & I cant lie, sometimes I struggle with the lingo. So basically, what I'm asking, is how, a long time ago ina galaxy far, far away, how did so many people, creatures, & even robots know how to speak English? It really is so impressive with peoples lingual abilities.
I hate lists like this. I was never "confused" by any of these points. I don't need every single little minor detail or character explained or given its own unnecessary or convoluted back story. Details like these offer mystery and add flavor to the world-building. It's okay to leave some things unanswered. The fact that there are no more mysteries left in Star Wars has virtually ruined it...
On Lobot There is a different story told as well The other story says he was a criminal that was caught cheating on Besbin and was giving a choice of life working in the Tibanna mines or becoming the cyborg we know in the movies
Most of these were not really "questions that always confused me". I mean, Vader having a servant? He was one of the highest ranking Imperials after the Emperor and arguably Tarkin (depending on which fan site you visit). Why would he not have a servant? How did he know Luke was his son? The name might have been a giveaway, coupled with the Emperor flat out telling him earlier on in the movie "The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi" (line unaltered in original 1980 and updated editions later), gee I wonder who he could be referring to. Then the rest, here's a bunch of minor points that the vast majority of people equated with world building and therefore not confusing at all. If this was titled something more along the lines of "interesting things around some of the stuff you saw in the movies" it would have been more appropriate.
At that point in time, Vader already knew. He literally said "Skywalker is there" when he ordered the attack on Hoth. It also literally says in the opening crawl: "The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes..."
Lando’s smuggler friend gets killed and ends up running his city. His droid lover gets killed and ends up running his space ship. There seems to be a pattern here. Where will Jannah end up?
If anyone had done research on how Star Wars was created and written by Lucas the characters and thier backgrounds were in constant flux. Basically when Star Wars the first movie was made Luke Skywalker was ineed Anakin Skywalker's son but Lucas had not made him Dath Vader's son. This choice was decided on when Lucas was working on the script to Empire after the rewrite when the writer he hired to do the script passed away. Lucas was an organic idea man and creator as his story was always in flux till it was filmed.
Owen could’ve been the one to insist on Luke keeping his surname. Also, although Qi’Ra giving the rebels the intel on Death Star 2 alone isn’t enough to make up for how bad her character is, she does some other things in War of the Bounty Hunter, Crimson Reign and Hidden Empire that would solidify her as a fan favorite if more people would read the comics.
