8-player Mega Alamo Wargame 

Travis was a beast in this game. It was pretty cool to watch and play. The rules themselves do make the “heroes” more effective so it encourages a cinematic, Hollywood outcome

@@LittleWarsTV Great channel. Just want to say to suggest possibly getting better mic equipment. The voice recording (especially in this video) sometimes sound distant and medium quality at best (especially in scenes when it's just people sitting and talking). Also I feel the background music was too loud especially in the 2nd half of the video. Personally I feel background music is unnecessary.

This battle are very excruciating and prolonged ! This game show the complication of the some battle ! 😃

All those brave 189 texans who were willing to kill and die all in the name of freedom. . .freedom to own slaves, I mean

Glad you enjoyed it!

We had speaker come into one of classes and talk about the surrounding Davey croquettes death, it’s really crazy how people latch on the myths of history.

You’ve contradicted yourself. Was it useful or was it overstated? This historical revisionism is just anti historic anti western propaganda that only views part of the evidence of the era. Had the Alamo failed to inflict significant casualties on Santa Anna or delayed him for so many days then it’s unlikely Houston would have been able to pull off the miracle of San Jacinto as that relied on time and troops disparity.

Militarily insignificant at the time, but it definitely took on a mythical rallying cry status at the time. So the "legend" of the Alamo was born almost immediately after it fell and there's no question it sparked a lot of passion among Texians at the time. A fascinating case study to be sure.

The wider cause being the peaceful British withdrawal under treaty arrangement, now try getting the yanks to fuck off with anything like that good grace, like Texas for instance a place annexed from the neighbours 👈😑

I remember reading (but can’t find it now) where some historian in a discussion over whether or not Travis really drew the line in the sand responded “If he didn’t, he should have.” It was sadly amusing to me that people thought Texas would crumble when someone suggested Crockett was killed trying to surrender, as if this somehow negated all he and the others had accomplished. Anyone wanting to appreciate history would do well to remember that people throughout history were acting on the circumstances in which they found themselves, not thinking how what they do might affect the narrative 200 years later. So you and a couple of other guys are surrounded by hundreds of the enemy. What are you thinking? “If I fight on, I’ll have a hundred schools named after me, but if I surrender I’ll be remembered as a coward”? I respectfully submit that the Alamo DID have a significant effect as a rallying cry for the independence movement as well as tying up Santa Anna for two whole weeks while the virtually non-existent Texan Army formed. While European wars were chewing up soldiers by the hundreds of thousands in battles whose names all start to blend together, the fate of the Western Hemisphere and world history from that point forward would be decided a few weeks later by less than 2000 soldiers on both sides at San Jacinto. How differently might that have gone without the Alamo?

Playing this 1:1 was so cool! Tons of figures to move around!

So cool to hear, Troy. That’s awesome! Bring along that next generation of history gamers along with you!

@Little Wars TV Yes sir!

The 2004 film is a great battle scene. We actually have a big film review video coming up

They were active in the game for sure! The rules emphasize the Mexican sappers as critical for battering doors and gates

Wow, thanks Alan! Hall of fame??

@@LittleWarsTV Sorry. Consider that as a suggestion. You’ve done so many great videos but there are a handful that really stand out and I think there should be a Little Wars Hall of Fame for the very best. I appreciate that you’re all too modest to create your own list but perhaps you could ask your viewers to vote for their Hall of Fame entries. Perhaps we should induct the best video from each season.

Oh weird, the only emotions I've ever heard the Alamo evoke upon actually visiting is disappointment and boredom, lmao. At least the diorama in the gift shop is impressive, but honestly that's it.

The slavery issue was clearly a major driver of Texian independence. There’s no way to gloss over that ugly truth

Sam Houston also didn’t want Texas to join the Confederacy.

​@Little Wars TV That is a falsehood in every sense of the meaning. The people who perpetuate that myth Are not even texans, What people fail to realize is that at the time of the beginning of the Texas Revolution there 4 separate revolts Going on at the same time against Santa Ana. But people fail to mention this Because they wish to perpetuate The poor Mexico Fighting against aggressive invaders narrative. What is often also not mentioned Is there a large number of tejanos Fighting against santa ana In both the alamo and sam houston's army

@@theblackrabbit That's true, but he wasn't an abolitionist per se. He, a slave owner, wanted slavery to die off on its own, but condemned all the politicing involved in it, which involved him politically attacking northern abolitionists for being rabble rousers while also campaigning for western states to not become slave states- which is to say, he was aggressively neutral about "that particular institution"; believing it a state issue but not one worth fighting a war over protecting and, if he had it his way, everyone would just shut up about it and it might go away on its own. He practically had to get dragged out of the Texas congress for not agreeing to join the confederacy, and it costed him his political career.

Slavery is only a trigger word used by idiots, who wouldn't want to own a cat who could wash the dishes 👈😕

It’s 5’x7’!

We should play the escape! Unlikely from a historical context though. Santa Anna had lancers patrolling the perimeter

I know I shot some of them as they broke and ran from the wall, but I don't think I got them all. Ed and I were joking about making a deal throughout the game...

@@IronIvanKeith Thank you Keith! I was fascinated by the prospect of a breakout attempt. If even one escaped, that would be legendary!

They historically had two company’s one lead by Breece a second by Morris they arrived just in time to help capture San Antonio in 1835 from their some left or went to Goliad we lose all the greys at the Alamo but at Goliad some we’re able to escape the massacre and at least one member was present to fight at San Jacinto

Ditto. As someone new to miniature wargaming, I recall in the not too distant past "admiring" miniatures others had painted saying "good job" - but now that I've painted a few hundred myself (and produced some horrendous terrain) I realize I could in no way actually appreciate all the work that goes into it. Awesome job.

David gets all the credit for painting and assembling this amazing set up. It’s a work of art!

Thank you for this. Now, four days later, I made a couple of impassioned comments to this effect. What I failed to mention was what you pointed out, the potential of "ordinary buildings". Buildings and complexes that looked like forts were pretty sparse in that part of the world. Before the Texians used it as a fort, they took it from the Mexicans who were using it as a fort. Sam Houston ordered it blown up -- I'm guessing so it couldn't be used as a fort.

I've always wonder how realistic it was for Houston to order the artillery and munitions evacuated from the Alamo. Would they have been able to assemble the necessary limbers, wagons, and draft animals with tack? Were there even any ammunition limbers available? Were all the cannons at the Alamo movable? Were there enough horses to move all the men on horseback, or would some have to walk? Were there additional wagons they could use to carry the food and water they'd need for a long march? Fanin and his men at Goliad were on foot, with slow moving carts for supplies. The Mexicans caught up with them and surrounded them. If a number of cannons with ammunition, and an additional 100-150 men successfully reached Houston, how might that have possibly changed Houston's decisions?

@@dongilleo9743 Are there other little subunits of texians moving around and holding outposts? One of my guesses is that army command didn't want them to be easily defeated in detail. From what these fellows say, it sounds like the army of Houston isn't that large either and is trying to pull itself together.

Obviously you weren't one of the arseholes who had their colon shot out in this lovely battle 😁

Thanks Sterling!

Damn! Pretty cool ancestor there!!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Great “what if” point. Tejano support for the independence movement was an important factor early on and makes the history so much more complex and nuanced

Well thank you! That’s always nice to hear, especially that we could do enough to lure a first time commenter!

Flickering tea lights! Super cheap and a cool visual effect!

Welcome aboard!

There’s been a lot of debate among modern historians about how Houston used those 13 days. Quite a few researchers have been challenging the traditional story that Houston made great use of the time to recruit. I don’t know one way or the other, but the debate appears ongoing

Alas, a myth. Apparently Gringo was a term used in Spain at least as far back as the 18th C. Apparently it has a similar meaning to sassenach.