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Hello John, I love your videos. I have a question for a 800W or 1000W wind Turbine how long the pipe needs to be from the ground to the top, also can I use a aluminum light pole?
@@wagner1968 15 feet and higher depending on your install area. Ground disturbance clears up at 8 to 10 feet and is gone at 20 feet in 90% of the world so I would exceed 15 feet with no obstructions like trees or buildings within 75+ feet away when installing yours. And a (19+ foot on average) commercial light pole is a great type of pole to use.
Great video, I can't wait to see more about this! Can I get and run a 24V windtur into a 12v system... do I need to convert it into 12v after it's generated?
@@80Matthias80 Depends on the controller, if you have a braking controller which is sent with the turbine the system works but not well. On mine I run from turbine to rectifier to battery, then my OPC controller controls top charge rates with diversion loading. Its a much better design than the all in one controllers because you can get 100% battery charging, the others will only get it to 90% due to their design which applies braking to the turbine to prevent over charge. In my experience, braking is not good on turbines, loading them down is.
i finally got my 3000w turbine from this company. i am very impressed with the quality, much better than other turbines i have dealt with. it is a beast. going to get it up over the 4th.
You are providing a great service. I hope to have a place where I can get one of these one day and your videos shall be my teacher. Looking forward to the rest of them.
I was glad to see you show how low the output is on lower winds (10% of rated output at 9(?)mph). Do not get me wrong, I think wind turbines are great, IF you have the wind to support them. Most of the continental US just does not have enough wind for small turbines. I regularly run through the numbers to prove that for a most areas you are better off putting the money into solar panels. If you have 15Mph+ winds for eight hours a day you are right on the edge of being cost effective. Anything less, go with solar.
Hi john, another great turbine video. You’re videos got me into wind turbines, thank you. I’m in Australia and I have two of the 500w 12v Chinese turbines like yours and the 2018 24v model before the one you’re showing in this video. Mine comfortably makes upto 1400w in 75 km/h winds. Don’t be amazed if you see some pretty big numbers. Keep up the great videos and thanks from down under.
Hi Marshall, I'm in Aussie also, how do we get in touch. Would be good to get a Australian forum going so we can bounce ideas and solutions back and forward. Check out my RU-vid channel Simon Rayward and get in touch. Cheers
Salve, le scrivo dall'italia, sto per iniziare lo stesso progetto, mi può dire gentilmente quale regolatore di carica ha utilizzato, se mi manda un link dove ha comprato la componentistica per poter fare funzionare al meglio questo generatore per caricare le batterie. Grazie.
Hi, I am writing from Italy, I am about to start the same project, you can kindly tell me which charge regulator you have used, if you send me a link where you bought the components in order to make this generator work better to charge the batteries. Thank you.
Shout out from Europe here, your the go to channel to learn about wind turbines for sure, thanks for the great information, you really are educating people and your videos get straight to the point, its a real pleasure to watch you in action, thanks very much from over the pond!
Friend - Your getting harassed by a promoter or pal of Vietnamese made turbines sold as 100% made in America. Keep trucking, become independent of Big Utility.
watching your other videos I was thinking the load controler and resistors were in series now I understand it better👍 thanks for the white board schematic🤘
They started to use my 12 magnet design, S formed oval. and the output is good. Sad poor Bob ignored the info! China didn't. And its 25% more output with less heat.
John Daniel you make the best videos . Where the hell have you been ? I haven't seen anything from you in months . You make all this electrical easy for a carpenter . You don't B/S and you don't take no S. either. I have been subscribed and bell clicked for about a year . I guess this damn you tube is messing with your channel like so many others I'm subscribed to . Anyway glad to see you again thanks for being old school and honest because I have seen well over 100 wind power videos and the majority of them are either liars trying to make a sell or just ignorant and learning giving bad info . Did you get finished with your RV project? Thanks again
I'm building one myself including the alternator. It's fun to do this yourself, by recycling scrap materials you help the environment and a DIY alternator and windturbine saves a lot of money. It;s nice to see what I also need to make my turbines operational such as the powercontrol and inverter. But why would you convert your DC back to AC again while moste devices run on DC? Also is'nt there more energy getting lost if you convert it back to AC since a rectifier also already takes some energy away but this i needed.
With the world going nuts you better at least have a method of preserving food and making a little energy when you can. Won't be long now they will be rolling us over to socialism which means what ever you got - HIDE IT.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 Thank you, John. I'm on top of that, bc I'm old fashioned, but also the huge sharing type like my mom raised me, gotta can enough fruit to give away lots of pies :) I really appreciate men like you sharing so much knowledge. Sharing is caring and knowledge is the best. I like renewable energy, bc its a lot of fun.
Nice .very bad ass wind turbine John. I just finished my huge setup finally. I should add a huge turbine that's like 48v and use mppt controller like midnight solar classic 250
They would most likely use the cheapest possible components that would either have features you don’t need, or not have features you need. Better to purchase exactly what you need for your system at the quality level you can live with. Did you end up installing a turbine?
John, What type of charge controller are you going to use if you use a rectifier. Will it be designed specifically for wind, or can it be a controller that can be used for both solar and wind, and is so what about the SSR and dump load. Thanks.
Hi John my name is Joe and i am in the south of the UK. Firstly, thanks for the many tutorials you have posted they ultimately inspired me to put in a wind turbine ( a chinese wonder i may say) but on the cheaper side as i wanted to try things out first. I do however have an issue that any thoughts you may have would be greatly appreciated. My turbine keeps turning it tail to the wind and running backwards. It could only happen to me lol. Again thanks for the Vids they have proved invaluable and as i move forward look forward to learning more about the finer details and upgrading. Stay safe.
Except both wires go from rectifier directly to battery. That would overcharge battery because the charge controller is further down the line. I know it's just a quick, rough drawing, but charge controller is first before the battery. The charge controller is what switches off charge to the battery and sends it to the load. (resistors)
@@Tex_Prepper Incorrect. Your confusing active load management with the battery destroying dead locking fake 440 amp mega solenoid misssouri design stolen from micro hydro controllers first stolen by then from Coleman. Mine is not even related to such a abomination.
Јоhn Daniel I'm not talking about any of those designs. Just talking about your diagram. So, according to your diagram, you can go to your battery from rectifier then on to the charge controller? So, your battery can automatically pass the charge on down the chain when its full?
@@Tex_Prepper The controller is a active controller, it not a bypass. So you get the ability to control voltage at the level you want by diversion only instead of bypassing it into a resistor bank. This process keeps your full charging rate you choose. The bypass design, AKA Missouri /Coleman thing dumps your entire system till the battery is almost dead then releases. (I'll use a 12 volt system as example) So if your wanting your solar at proper rates you set its controller to max charge of 14.0, then your turbines do the bulk & balancing charging by setting them at 14.65 vdc. Your solar will not be affected, only your wind turbines will. Each time your turbine hits 14.65 levels into the battery your at full charge and the OPC controller starts to pulse the SSR's to resistors, at first its 3 times a second, and as voltage goes up every 0.05 volts it doubles its SSR rate of contact pulses. Based on the diversion resistor load you designed for your unit it can maintain max charge at all times with that process. The hacked Missouri design dead locks a massive resistor load, drags your whole battery bank down to 12 volts and your solar controllers freak out, Your solar panels get the AMP shit knocked out of them, the controllers and inverters go into temp default and your likely to shorten your battery life by 50%. Now you see why I have such disdain for such junk!
@@Tex_Prepper PS - A very accurate design using the OPC and SSR's will be drawn up with high detail soon, I just ran out of board space to be in depth.
How well do you think this would hold up in -50c? Wondering if the bearings could take that kind of cold. I live up in the prairies here in Manitoba and we get a lot of 30-90kmh wind here.
I finally got my Chinese turbine up that you recommended. I have 9mph wind right now and it's not spinning at all.Brake is off.What mph wind does it need?
It will need some good 20+ mph gust to set the magnets and field in it. Then you'll see base watt power from 10 to 11 mph, very little, then progressive sharp increases as it gets past 12 mph to peak power ar 25 mph.
I have a goal zero 1500 yeti portable solar power unit. I have 400 watts feeding it from solar panels , Can you tell us what wind turbine is needed to feed the yeti and what is needed? thanks tee
Goal Zero power stations are not designed for or capable of handling wind turbines. But if you add a decent sized second battery to them you can likely use a turbine.
Hi John, Absolutely love your videos and your no nonsense approach to giving us great info with no BULLSHIT! Going to get one of these Chinese turbines as you're the only person out there really that tells us they way it is! Any way, I'm over here in the UK and am going to install a wind turbine as we are in Scotland on the side of a hill, it's always windy. So we here in the UK don't usually have power outages and I am connected to the grid. With the world going to shit lately our energy prices are about to rocket, I am looking to connect my Turbine to the grid to reduce my bills, with a battery back up system later on (there are rumours of power cuts this winter) I was wondering if you have had any experience with these Chinese Grid-tie-inverters for wind, do they do what they are supposed to? Any ways thanks for all the info. and keep up the good work, LOVE IT!! Ste
I'm sorry Sir but I fail to see the link referring to the wind turbine so I can purchase that exact model. Great info your video and I look for ward to duplicating this exact system ty
I just received my 500w wind turbine from b creation (b n c) and the shaft seems to have play I can push in like almost a quarter inch in? Is that normal seems Abita stiff too doesn't spin by hand easily. The packaging was beat up damn ups guys!
Have you had a shot at getting one of these to work with MPPT? Surely you'll get a much better result if you can take any input voltage and squeeze out more wattage at the right voltage. (PWM just pulses the input voltage to try approximate the charge voltage but due to pulsing, you lose a fair bit of power).
They do sell a MPPT controller for them that cost $320 but then thats the price of another 500 watt 5 blade unit! Better to put up 4 turbines that are slightly inefficient than 2 with MPPT in my area. But if you do have low winds, a MPPT is a best option.
That is nice!can I connect wind turbine in series?If the answer is "yes" So,If you have 4 piece of that wind turbine, It's mean you have 3.2kw in series,enough for domestic installation. Big up to you.
If you are running a small to mid grade system, get the all in one Wind1500+Solar1500 12/24volt to get proper 750wind@12/24volt) s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AsIplb . You would add no more than 800 solar and a 800 watt turbine like this one s.click.aliexpress.com/e/5dnnyP8k and you won't need to controller that comes with them. Just order WITHOUT CONTROLLER and get that one above. Anything like a inverter or controller normally rated for any amount you should never take to the limit. So a 1500/1500 watt is best left running at 50 to 60% max for longest and safest lifespan.
Grate video John as always very informative I have been watching all your videos about wind turbines to figure out how to install mine I just got a 400 wat that I want to add to my 200 wat solar set up but I need to know what parts do I need to achieve that hopping you can help me thanks
While we have already 3phase coming from turbine.What about a step up transformer to 230 v for south africa ? And i want to use 3geyser elents as dumb load.Can it be done?Windy cape town
Thanks for the info on this turbine. I have had my turbine running since 2008, and some of that time was teaching and trade shows. This year I was pulling the unit for maintenance and broke one blade. I would like to replace the blades not the entire unit, so if anyone can help me get 3 blades for my 450 watt unit I would appreciate it.
Hi John, I am in Tanzania and I liked your video. Great stuff! I am a farmer and wonder if it is possible to use turbine to generate power that will run a 2horse power pump for avocado irrigation. Thanks
Morning John frothe UK, our energy prices have been hiked up again so I've got to do something more to reduce my bills!! I have a small solar system, but being in Scotland sun isn't around much! Having been a huge fan of you guys for a few years was going to buy the 800w 12volt turbine you have recommended in this video. I'm thinking of using the mars rock 1500/1500 wind & solar controller that you've suggested... just for set up simplicity, because electrical circuits isn't a strong point of mine.... If you have any other suggestions on a set up with my battery bank that would be much appreciated, or if you think I should use different controller I'd appreciate your help... Thanks Ste
Hi John, Marcus here from Communist Canada. Lol....appreciate your videos. I have a question regarding diversion loads for 12 volt wind turbine. You recommend 2-6 ohm resistors 100 watts. Why do you recommend this size and is it possible to use 300 watt 1-8 ohm resistors? I guess my question is if you have a fully charged battery bank and a turbine pushing 500 watts what is a acceptable diversion load. Thanks for your time.
Why is there no regulator to provide correct voltage to the batteries based on type of battery? Lithium and LA for example need different charging profile.
Hey awesome video so hey question for you as I'm trying to understand So i have a zendure super base v 4600 unit Do i need all them dodads or can i just get away with just the turbine and hook a 10 gadge to it and a xt80 connector and good ta go?
Turbines put out raw voltage, many power stations will reject or fail their BMS and charge controller. Using a Slave Battery in the middle will work though to send them power easily. I plan another video soon on that subject.
Hey, love the videos. Lots of good information! was wondering if you could do a video showing how to install a wind turbine from start to finish. I'm getting ready to move from Ohio to Maine and am wanting to go off grid. (I'm thinking that Im going to want at least 3 of these 800w turbines)
I think I would go for the slightly smaller version of this, say, the 500w. But I have noticed that B & C do a 400w vertical wind turbine and wondered if perhaps you have taken a look and these. I would certainly value any guidance you can give me as I have heard that vertical turbine technology has a way to go and that they sometimes don't live up to their promises.
Thanx for the clear and extensive video, man. Very interesting. I also saw your 500W wind generator video. I subscribed for more :-) One thing I'm wondering about, though, and that's why you don't put a regulator in between the rectifier and the battery. Our boat doesn't have a wind generator anymore (I think the previous owner got sick of it), but the solar/wind generator regulator is still there, and it's in between the wind generator and the battery bank. Is there a specific reason you do it different? Happy greetingz, Wim
4 U To get 100% full batteries from one & to divert over volt you need these: amzn.to/37HN2OR 100A SQL Rectifiers & amzn.to/2MTUjCU A All purpose long life Load controller and be sure to get up to and over 300 watts diversion resistors ( amzn.to/2QngFPq x 3) and one or more 60 amp SSR ( amzn.to/2QKEyj0 ) with heat sink ( amzn.to/2ZYtmna ) and be sure to use thermal past on it. ( Proper type - amzn.to/2QN2hir from Protronix)
John, Great video, though in major cities they do not allow this kind of wind turbine (safely of blades going flying) but vertical turbines are usually able to get approvals and are not a problem. Is there a vertical wind turbine that you think can work well and generate 800 - 1000W using a 12V system?
This 800 watt is very solid, and extremely quiet. A vertical turbine is much louder than this one, and would be a seriously big waste of money due to cost per REAL watt output for them.
John, I was told at one point a few years ago (I am not familiar with the current legislative environment) that having a blade wind turbine in Las Vegas is illegal, but vertical turbines are not (it is a safety issue as far as I understand it). So, if you think a wind turbine that is vertical will give me no useful return then its best for me to eschew the entire idea of setting anything like that up. Solar here is way to expensive when you include the installation cost and the power company's having gotten the government to skew things (like selling power back to them) to make it a poor return on the investment.
I habe a question. How can i build wind turbine to place it on roof of car and charge elektric car. For example one faze Ford Kuga plug-in hybrid. What kind ofturbine, possible vire configuration, spare parts etc. Is it possible at all?
John. I need some help if you please. I appreciate the videos you’re posting. I just purchased the Automaxx Windmill 1500W 24V 60A Wind Turbine Generator kit. However I can’t find a diagram online that tells me how to properly set up the electrical connections. You’re videos are the best I’ve seen to explain the process but they go into far more depth and design than anything else I’ve seen out there. I was wondering if you’d help me sketch out the diagram and supplies I need to purchase to put a system like yours in place.
Yes. As long as you can use the power in a second bank so it don't end up being over charged from wind power. The easiest way to use 2 differing aged or style battery systems New with Older, is a isolator ( my video on it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4jqjsZHmEEU.html ) and use the diversion control on the main newer bank of batteries.
How about something like a grid tie inverter as a dump load i just hate wasting energy and I'm in texas so trying to use the heat is unlikely i guess you could do a water heater or something
As often as they may go into and out of divert modes that option is not very usable. People do it, but never recover a cent invested. However, in Texas your best bet is have it cycle on a attic exhaust fan system using a 80 to 120 watt 12 to 16" fan. It can handle the cycling on and off, and will remove that heat! ebay.to/2pnwB9x
Wind turbines produce a type of power that has to be diverted when excess battery levels are reached. You don't actually control the turbine, you control its effect on the battery bank.
In your epever vedio your 800 watt turbine meter was showing 80 amps yours came with either 8 or 10 gauge most of the rest of us got your recemended three wires off the head with 16 gage . How is that going to end up with us. Are we headed for a problem? Give us your opinion. Thanks for all you're hard work sharing with us .
Thanks for getting back. Mine is 24 volt. The three wires are at 14 gage . After strpping them . They are rugged wires l'am less concerned now. New question they seem to be stainless steel. If so. Will they not take sodder? Any recommendations would be great. You and family stay safe.
@@sharyncomstock7066 The wire is fully tinned copper, it appears to be other but it will solder nicely. And 14 awg is very sufficient for the 1 foot length it comes out as. The actual is about 13.5 AWG and the 24 volt turbine is same watts as my 12 volt, but half the amps.
They have all the parts you need from B&C, including controllers that do MPPT and internal diversion ( which you would need in NZ) On that link below the video to the 800, go to it, then look on the side of the page, a big 1000 watt controller for 24 to 48 volt is available, you just wire down to it, from it to the batteries or you can also get a grid tie from them with same options and ease of install.
Hi John, the load controllers listed are all for 12/24V. I have a 48V system and the 800W turbine you recommended. Which load controller would you recommend for my 48V system?
Hi John, 2 years down the track. How has it stood up to time. I want to purchase one from your links. Is there anything else I might need that has been outdated. Thanks for you time! Regards Daniel (Australia)
Perfectly. So far no issues, but I did move it to our mining shack out of Baker Nevada after selling the house and it's keeping the lights on and more.
when you go to the link look off to your right you will see the six blade 500 watt model but I suggest only going with the five blade low wind model the six blade is no better.
Definition of open voltage and the importance of it? Any recommendations for a RV setup and can you discuss how much the noise levels are on wind turbines? Noise is one of the biggest complaints.
The blades like on this 800 are extremely quiet, 55 db. But the blades on the 500 are much louder, like a 3500 watt generator at 50 feet away. You can get them all with that much quieter blade, just when you follow the link look over to the right side and theres many to use from them just stick with GE or B&C because they are the only 2 assemblers/sellers that actually order the right parts for these that I have found in 5 years.
Would you help me? I have a KT7 from thermodyne It's 48v ac 1500w wind turbine. It's going through a rectifier. Im wanting to grid tie this system and looking for a good charge controller to charge batteries before going to a grid tie inverter. What would you recommend for a charge controller?
Hi John, I purchased a 400 watt vertical wind turbine and noticed the 3 phase wires coming from the turbine are very small, looks like 16awg, they are smaller than the controller that came with it (looks like 14awg). You mention the turbine in this video, the 3 phase wires, was probable 8awg. I'm in the market to purchase more wires for the long run to the rectifier...inverter setup. Would you be concerned with the size of the wires? Wondering of they will burn up or ?? Thank you in advance for your input.
They are the metric equivalent of 15 gauge with fire wrap sheathing. It can be that smaller diameter because it's a very very short run. They will not cause a problem as long as you use heavy cord from their down. From it down to the controller you will use a full copper (no CCA COPER CLAD) 12 awg extension cord up to 28 feet, or a 10 awg cord up to 56 feet to wire it up. 3 on 3 wire colors don't matter. RV extension cords are about best for this use.
So is possible to charge a 12 VDC battery with a turbina rated at 24 VAC directly by means of normal rectifier and not normal charge controller? Thank you!
The wind and solar all in one charge controller if you get one will work just fine up to 150 input volts. So the battery voltage rating is what it services on. By adding a 24 volt turbine the maximum voltage is around 80 volts and it'll run just fine into a 12 volt battery Bank. Down in the links below some of my newer videos they'll be a all-in-one controller that says 1500 w 1500 w that is a absolute perfect model to use for the kind of stuff you want to do. I recommend the low wind 600 watt turbine that's in some of those links and just get it in 24 volt if you don't have much wind but need some wind charge ability.
Hi, great video, but unfortunately I don't understand English (I'm Italian), I understood the concept, I would kindly like you to tell me what those two tools are and what they are used for in a plastic box one attached to an aluminum rod , and if you can send me the link to the charge controller and all the rest. Thank you
I love your wind turbine videos. Question for you... Could you do a grid tie inverter with this? Have u seen the Chinese blue one that has the rectifier, controller and dump load in one? I just wonder what would happen when you're not home to monitor it and the winds pick up?
A quality grid tied inverter designed for wind will have diversion loading, settings, and materials also designed into the build. So home or gone it will work fine.
Dan look at the 2000w model of the blue Chinese sun inverter. (sun WAL-GT 2000) You will need to oversize the inverter to handle high wind output. it's what I'm using. It has never gone into load dump. Or you can series link 2 x 1000w models.
Yes, they are quick to send out anything like bolts or even internal parts if you need them. I got one install in south Utah that had 5 - 1000 watt turbines, and they had it delivered before I got there to install straight from china, and that made the people happy.
john, i have the 500 watt model as shown in your previous video, can i simply insert 2 wires into the MPPT40Amp where the PV wires would go? Will this work? Will my battery still get charged? thank you for you reply.
Please do a sound study. I'd be curious to see how mich noise it makes and at what speeds. Also, is this setup going to be able to be used on a sailboat and resist the elements?
We did, and at 20 feet using a meter ( amzn.to/34sLKpk ) about a week ago, its info you need to do installs so I do record it when possible. 56.3 in 15 mph winds, seemed you only hear it good if your within 40 feet. You will hear it in 20 mph winds a bit louder but the wind itself is just as loud at that point. The 5 blade with sword style blades are a WHOLE different story, 69.5 db at 16 mph so I recommend the low wind version that uses blades like this 800 on it to make it quieter.
Thanks for this video. I have a question about the diagram at 0:08. Can I replace the load controller with a solar charge controller to protect the batteries?
I have a crazy question. Is there a way of adapting one of these turbines to work on a moving vehicle to take advantage of the wind as you drive from point A to B?
Would that size of wind turbine be overkill for most small PV systems? Some of your previous videos have had smaller turbines with great output results. I'm just trying to imagine myself attempting to install one of these units. Pretty big.
