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#84: Basics of Ferrite Beads: Filters, EMI Suppression, Parasitic oscillation suppression / Tutorial 

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This video discusses the basics of ferrite beads, and their uses for basic filtering applications. It discusses and demonstrates how ferrites act as resistors at high frequencies, and how this is used for EMI/RFI Suppression, improved power supply filtering, parasitic oscillation suppression, and others. The affect of the frequency dependent resistive characteristic of the ferrite beads is demonstrated by showing its effect on a swept RF signal, its effect on the rise/fall time of a digital signal, and its effectiveness of eliminating parasitic oscillation. Here are some links to the other videos mentioned in this video:
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@softtransistor6729
@softtransistor6729 5 лет назад
Thank you, you made me a better engineer than I was 10 minutes ago
@SingTodayi
@SingTodayi 2 года назад
Hello dear Sir. Could you please tell is it possible to check it with "multimeter"? If yes how?
@Floyd..B
@Floyd..B 9 месяцев назад
​@@SingTodayi No, you need at least an oscilloscope. Multimeters are not precise enough and they don't go high enough in terms of frequency.
@JohnHill-qo3hb
@JohnHill-qo3hb 5 лет назад
Your videos should be part of every theory lesson in schools and colleges. It is fine to explain it on a chalkboard but to actually see it on test equipment makes the theory sooo much readily understandable. I'm a visual learner as are many others, wish the internet and instructor/techs like you were around 40 odd years ago when I was desperately trying to learn this stuff...BRAVO ZULU
@californiakayaker
@californiakayaker Год назад
The bead on the base demonstration was almost magical. Great demo.
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 11 лет назад
I liked your practical oscillator example.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 9 лет назад
I think I just learned more in ten minutes than a month of physics class.... and if I'm not mistaken you did this in one take as well. Excellent work!
@sidejunk
@sidejunk 6 лет назад
seconded. super useful video. i came across this vid because of a project that i'm working on, but it's gonna have to wait while i go through all of his other stuff.
@abhaynatoo
@abhaynatoo 6 лет назад
fourthed.[?].
@Paul_VK3HN
@Paul_VK3HN 5 лет назад
Fifth'd. Compelling demo. And as a result of watching it, I went straight to a homebrew receiver project with a Mosfet RF amp that was unstable above 7mhz. Added 2 turns thru a 43 bead, soldered it right on gate 1, and guess what? It worked!
@CVEGeek
@CVEGeek 5 лет назад
I also concur.
@boovaragan_sriram
@boovaragan_sriram 5 лет назад
Sixthed, very good live explanation
@DeltaXray444
@DeltaXray444 Год назад
This is the best video I've seen on ferrites and how effective they can be.. excellent.
@AppliedScience
@AppliedScience 11 лет назад
Great video!
@robadoba8497
@robadoba8497 3 года назад
Best ferrite bead video I've found! I'm an engineer trying to get up to speed to help solve a signal noise problem with equipment at work. Thanks for the great info!
@mitchellhw2006
@mitchellhw2006 7 лет назад
Excellent tutorial. You packed more useful info in a few minutes than hours of dry text from the library. Many thanks.
@katelikesrectangles
@katelikesrectangles 9 лет назад
The demonstration for suppressing a parasitic oscillation was brilliant!
@rihan-haque
@rihan-haque 2 года назад
your 10 min videos are like summary of 1hour engineering class, but better and enjoyable.
@j.t.johnston3048
@j.t.johnston3048 6 лет назад
This is the best primer on ferrites I have ever seen. I really appreciate your videos.
@ronaldwhittaker6327
@ronaldwhittaker6327 4 года назад
"thank you for this" its always better when an there's a coherent instructor explaining a thing for me sometimes the concepts don't leap off the page for me on top of the fact i don't speak electrical engineer so again thank you.
@KL3NCH
@KL3NCH 5 лет назад
This is great. I loved the cross referencing to the 'scope. One area where it does get confusing is the use of various mixes dependent upon the application: use as a choke against use as a transformer. This leads to folks arguing at cross purposes on forums and elsewhere about which mix to use. A mix that works as an RF choke at a given frequency will most likely not be a suitable mix for a transformer at the same frequency for obvious reasons when you stop to think about it. I do enjoy your videos Sir.
@TheCrazyInventor
@TheCrazyInventor 11 лет назад
I always wondered how effective those filter beads were. Many products have those inside and I always ask myself "how much are these tiny ferrite beads going to help"... Thank you for showing us and making it clear! :)
@lcradan24
@lcradan24 11 лет назад
Excellent video Sir. You and thesignalpath are prob my favorite posters of educational info here. Thanks for sharing with us your knowledge, i look forward to more of your content.
@danielpeters1754
@danielpeters1754 8 лет назад
good info. I always wondered how effective those ferrite cores were and if they did anything. Thanks for clarifying!
@BGLENN-dp4tx
@BGLENN-dp4tx 6 лет назад
Excellent coverage. Hams (W2AEW) often have extensive, job related, knowledge and experience to share. I suspect that's the case here. Thanks, AA4BQ.
@garrickdedemeter3244
@garrickdedemeter3244 7 лет назад
Thank you for posting this excellent video! It has helped me to understand (on a QUALITATIVE basis) exactly how ferrite beads work. Though I am currently interested in filtering out barely-AUDIBLE-frequency noise (in the 10 KHz to 20 KHz range), I am now prepared to do some trial-and-error testing with different split ferrite beads, installed on both the power cord and audio signal cables of our A/V system. Thanks again!
@mangeshmalgi279
@mangeshmalgi279 3 года назад
Thanks for the wonderful & practical explanation, of the usage of the Ferrite Beads.
@computerlen
@computerlen 2 года назад
Absolutely perfect presentation. So clearly explained and demonstrated.
@The6Bird9
@The6Bird9 6 лет назад
I understand the principle of why it works... didn't realize it could have that magnitude of affect on at higher frequency. My question, how do you determine when you need to use this filter? What would be some symptoms? This question stemming from the fact that all of the computer related cables have them. AWESOME video!
@ronevans8404
@ronevans8404 9 лет назад
Good explanation, thank you. You sound like a good analog engineer.
@gurpreetbal1
@gurpreetbal1 2 года назад
Very well explained Alan. I have a topic suggestion - back to basics video on filters. Something that shows multiple order passive/active filters and their performance. Thanks for making these wonderful videos.
@kellingc
@kellingc 11 лет назад
1) I'm really enjoying your videos 2) What is your profession? Does it involve teaching, because you deliver the material really well 3) Ever though of elmering?
@rjinnh3933
@rjinnh3933 4 года назад
Very, very well done vid with clear/concise info/presentation. Job well done Sir.......
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 5 лет назад
I like your informative video. I never suspected that a simple PSO would break into oscillation at 200 MHz. I've built quite a few, but even if they did oscillate, my 20 MHz scope would never know it. Thanks.
@marcisberzins
@marcisberzins 2 года назад
I remember watching some weird twisted bits of sinusoid from homemade audio oscillator shown on my 5 MHz scope, now I got what those shapes mean.
@edinfific2576
@edinfific2576 3 года назад
Great examples, the only thing I would add is side-by-side shots of before and after so that the results are even more obvious.
@movax20h
@movax20h 3 года назад
Superb video. Very well prepared, I loved all the practical examples.
@vaseemmehrancp9372
@vaseemmehrancp9372 3 года назад
Great .. The contents and Practical examples were good .
@ocayaro
@ocayaro 7 лет назад
You reminded me why I subscribed two years ago.
@DavidGillooly
@DavidGillooly 11 лет назад
Very nice video. Once again a super job in using instrumentation to explain and show the behavior. I wish the ARRL Handbook has such videos embedded in the pdf versions!! Dave, AA6RE
@TheBdd4
@TheBdd4 7 лет назад
Thank you for another one of your excellent teaching moments. You are blessed with the ability to say just what needs to be said, no more, no less.
@AndyDaviesByTheSea
@AndyDaviesByTheSea 4 года назад
Nice clear demonstration. Kind Regards. . . Andy
@OttoHunt
@OttoHunt 11 лет назад
It is the common mode (versus differential) signals that are attenuated by the bead on the USB cable. Common mode signals cause the entire USB peripheral to act like a monopole antenna.
@shadowwolf225
@shadowwolf225 10 лет назад
... and you have another subscriber. Great video and thanks for showing demos on the 'scope. I've been looking for a good video on ferrites and I believe I found it.
@Pillowcase
@Pillowcase 11 лет назад
Yes this is a terrific reference; EXACTLY what I was looking for.
@EdwinFairchild
@EdwinFairchild 7 лет назад
man i wish i had all your knowledge
@WN8HGZ
@WN8HGZ 8 лет назад
Very well done and answered a lot of questions
@irawarnaca8133
@irawarnaca8133 7 лет назад
Great Video! Thank you for all your hard work.
@ROBwithaB
@ROBwithaB 9 лет назад
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I was reading through the manual for a new video camera I had bought, and it mentioned this thing I'd never encountered before, that snaps around the power supply cable. Of course my curiosity was piqued, so I had to find out more. Thanks to your video, it all makes perfect sense: suppression of high frequency electromagnetic radiation, by encouraging lossy inductance. My questions is: is this to protect the camera itself or is it just bundled in to comply with regulations to prevent other devices from picking up interference? Is the operation of the camera likely to be affected if I don't bother putting it on? The cord is supposed to be wrapped around the bead (in parallel) so that the cord passes through the middle part twice. The design of the supplied bead is such that it is a very tight fit and I am concerned that I will damage the insulation of the cord if I were to clamp it shut. If I simply left it off, what's the worst that could happen? (I would be filming on battery power 99% of the time anyway. Very seldom using the power cord while filming. Only there for charging the batteries.) Thanks again for the clear explanation.
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 лет назад
It is likely needed for the camera to meet some emissions standard. It is highly unlikely that you'll have any problem whatsoever if you only pass it through once or leave it off entirely.
@BrianHensleyRULES
@BrianHensleyRULES 11 лет назад
Great stuff, always learning something new from your channel!
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 7 лет назад
GR8T introduction to the "magical beads". I really never gave them much thought. After see cause & effect, I'm a believer. Also your video quite well done. I couldn't have gotten a better view if I was standing their (no, not a stalker:)... SuBsCriBed. Thank you. Cheers
@PaulAckerman-dx2gs
@PaulAckerman-dx2gs 5 месяцев назад
Always wondered why I saw transistors with beads on the legs.
@earnieb5318
@earnieb5318 3 года назад
WOW....WHAT A GREAT PRESENTATION....IM A FAN...TY!
@zennsystems9433
@zennsystems9433 5 лет назад
Excellent! Covered so much in a small Video... A must watch for all electronics related engineers. Thanks for a great refresher course.
@kayitbilgileri
@kayitbilgileri 6 лет назад
Bravo Romeo Alfa Victor Oscar !
@noelguerrero2770
@noelguerrero2770 7 лет назад
As a former Instrumentation Technician, we usually get deliveries of industrial instruments with those things loosely bouncing inside the box. I usually pick it up and turn it this way and that not knowing what those darns are for. Now I know. Thanks.
@paulfrischknecht3999
@paulfrischknecht3999 4 года назад
awesome explanation and examples!
@cmguitar50
@cmguitar50 3 года назад
Thank you! This was comprehensive and quick :)
@skilambi
@skilambi 7 лет назад
Great video...I always enjoy the way you explain things in such a simple manner...
@chuchan60
@chuchan60 2 года назад
Thanks again for your great videos! You are an excellent teacher and I for one very much appreciate you taking the time to make each one of your video lessons with such great demonstrations, examples, and experiments to help convey the concepts you are teaching!
@gayandesilva3180
@gayandesilva3180 2 месяца назад
Great Content, Thank You.
@nedstar7378
@nedstar7378 Год назад
Very useful information, thanks for sharing.
@valiza123
@valiza123 9 лет назад
I always thought that ferrite beads were electrically conductive. When I saw you put that bead directly on the lead I was sure a short was imminent:)). Thanks, opened my eyes and put ferrite beads on mosfet gates on my current project working at 300v, very clean switching right now. (Also added capacitors very close to the half bridge).
@fredgarvin9262
@fredgarvin9262 6 лет назад
They are electrically conductive. Never put an inductor on a FET gate. That's the last thing a switching fet wants.
@alexhoyos5343
@alexhoyos5343 5 лет назад
Fred Garvin you can’t just say never. applications may require to add a reactance to any location depending on its application. For example sometimes your biasing network may require inductors near the gate specially in radio frequency designs. Besides it is all relative to what your gate sees and its switching speed. You could put a a tiny inductor (fH) and if your frequencies are in KHz it simply won’t see it.
@ebarbie5016
@ebarbie5016 3 года назад
Nice but you left out an impotent issue of the difference between ferrite beads used for common mode filtering like on USB cables and those used for differential mode filtering, like in your examples.
@timwoods9350
@timwoods9350 5 лет назад
I really enjoyed this. really good intro for me
@crumplezone1
@crumplezone1 11 лет назад
Have you ever thought of taking over the world ? ,:) another top video from theMaster !!
@DelamotaPablo
@DelamotaPablo 4 года назад
excellent explanation.
@rapsod1911
@rapsod1911 11 лет назад
Excellent video. Thank you very much.
@sajadjolaeian5218
@sajadjolaeian5218 Год назад
I have used these ferrite beades before and i have known that they do sth by frequencies but i have not seen their waves on the oscilloscope,now i have beter veiw,how a great video was that🙏🙏🙏
@daveclavsell6123
@daveclavsell6123 3 года назад
Great explanation, thanks
@broklee
@broklee Год назад
Great video, learned something new
@neilAneerGAmAI
@neilAneerGAmAI 5 лет назад
Great explanation.
@kramsniggah4333
@kramsniggah4333 4 года назад
This was the most informative and actually answered the questions I've had for years! Massive kudos w2aew!
@Starbuckin
@Starbuckin 9 лет назад
Excellent video! Now I need a good source for these ferrite beads...
@freddiemortos8519
@freddiemortos8519 10 лет назад
I gain another good information from you sir,,thank you,,fantastic video :).
@presentlyhappy
@presentlyhappy 2 года назад
I just order some Ferrite beads one for my headset and one for my laptop cord.. thank you
@Random-kq4pz
@Random-kq4pz Год назад
Good video, you are a great speaker!
@andrewmullen5770
@andrewmullen5770 4 года назад
You are awesome, Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this stuff! -Subscribed
@maro8D
@maro8D 7 лет назад
I am only speculating but I think the high frequency content is filtered out because this energy is converted to heat in the ferromagnetic material. Since the input signal is is alternating this causes the dipoles to change their polarity and this dipole movement causes friction -> heat in the ferromagnetic material. Can someone back up my speculations :P ?
@w2aew
@w2aew 7 лет назад
Yes - ferrites are lossy - converting energy to heat.
@fredgarvin9262
@fredgarvin9262 6 лет назад
No. An inductor stores energy and does not dissipate it.
@psikoumaha
@psikoumaha 6 лет назад
Well ferrites aren't inductors so he's right, energy is converted into heat in the ferromagnetic material
@fredgarvin9262
@fredgarvin9262 6 лет назад
Ferrite material is inductive. Chokes, inductors, transformers are generally ferrite material.
@psikoumaha
@psikoumaha 6 лет назад
No, they are used in addition to inductors and transformers to improve performances. Cf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead
@TechneMoira
@TechneMoira 6 лет назад
If we consider a switched power-supply that runs around the 50-100 KHz range, what would be most (cost-)effective and simplest to filter any parasitic signals from the hashing oscillator on the DC output? Beads ? Capacitor grounding (low-pass)? A pi-filter ? An RF trap ? I guess some switching power-supplies use a kind of active filtering as well, but I would categorize that as rather expensive and more complex. Would you have any thoughts/comments on this and what would you advise? Thanks a lot for considering my question. I found your video very instructive and entertaining.
@w2aew
@w2aew 6 лет назад
I would likely start with series ferrite beads followed by ceramic decoupling capacitor(s).
@TechneMoira
@TechneMoira 6 лет назад
Thank you. I'm an assiduous follower of your channel. No-nonsense and vey clearly explained. It's a joy to watch :)
@noname-gp6hk
@noname-gp6hk Год назад
Thank you sir, this solves a few problems I've been fighting. You have an outstanding way of explaining things.
@gerardoromano3436
@gerardoromano3436 6 месяцев назад
I know this vid is old, but gold ! clear demontrations, didn´t know osilators have oscilatotions on the base, I thought it only happened on tube circuits where the cheap and effective solution is a grid stopper resistor, most tubes where deigned for high frec. did´t know that bipolar transistor suffered the same issue. Now I know thanks to you! In fact 2N2222 is a high bandwith transistor (relative to say a BC548).
@das250250
@das250250 8 лет назад
Your channel is high quality , very interesting channel , it is a must have channel for any electronics person / engineer . I wish i had more time to see all of them several times over .
@robvanschelven902
@robvanschelven902 9 лет назад
Thanks for the clear explanation !
@nickynorton
@nickynorton 2 года назад
Excellent presentation visuals are worth a thousand words ..
@MaciekDrozd
@MaciekDrozd 3 года назад
Very good introduction. What about energy loss in bead? How much can it dissipate?
@d00de83
@d00de83 5 лет назад
Thank you you saved me a very expensive oil truck data cable tear down
@a000ab
@a000ab 5 лет назад
Very instructive video. Now I am thinking that maybe for the cases that the operational frequency of the circuit is in much lower ranges, it is even better to use bids made up of iron, instead of ferrite. Because if I know correctly, the "cutoff" frequency of iron is much less than ferrite. Though I have never seen any iron bids around a wire for noise cancelling ...
@reddpill
@reddpill 8 лет назад
So Ferrite beads create an implosive centripetal effect/motion down the wire, like how a magnetron works in a microwave, through suction as all magnetic fields rotate. Thus never displaying high frequency EMI as it's not traveling along the outside of the wire (centrifugally). It's Schauberger 101 ! Here's a picture showing this in motion. simplylivingwater.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Schau-pipie-cross-sec.jpg
@ShawnHighfill
@ShawnHighfill 10 лет назад
Will a ferrite bead disrupt the data traffic on a cat 6 data cable running from a switch to a phone or PC? We are getting what we think is EMI interrupting phone calls. I need a way to filter it, but not kill the needed data traffic on the cable. Great video and explanation.
@w2aew
@w2aew 10 лет назад
It most likely will not affect the data on the cat6 cable, since that data is sent differentially. It's certainly worth a try.
@NikonCrayzee
@NikonCrayzee 2 года назад
Serious question - are you able to clone yourself and send your clone over to Australia? If I had you as my electronics teacher, my understanding of this topic and all other semiconductor related topics, would be at a far higher level.
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 года назад
LOL - is Australia big enough to hold both me and Dave Jones at EEVblog at the same time? ;-)
@anicetdjada2025
@anicetdjada2025 4 года назад
Nice video, straigh to the point ! More intuitive than hundred pages of unreadables applications notes... Nice Job;thank you
@jamesmasonic
@jamesmasonic 8 лет назад
another great video! just one question though. you explained and showed how the ferrite bead blocked parasitic oscillations at the base of BJT. i can see how the ferrite bead's inductance can filter high freq. noise at that point, but you also mention you have added a series resistor before to achieve the same goal. i dont understand how adding a resistor can filter the high freq. components. is that something to do with RC circuit coupled to it? thanks
@w2aew
@w2aew 8 лет назад
The resistor isn't acting as a filter, it it simply adding a little loss (de-Q'ing) the complex impedance looking into the base.
@ТрансиверТСВ
@ТрансиверТСВ 4 года назад
Hi! And for a field-effect transistor? For MOSFET? If it is in a switching power supply, which output (gate, source, drain) is best to wear a ferrite tube?
@danielg2716
@danielg2716 3 года назад
Thank you very much for your excellent explanations about ferrite beads. The clearest explanations! Thank you!
@vjjcreations1822
@vjjcreations1822 2 года назад
Very useful on ferrite bead applications...can you please upload a video on how to use Vector network analyzer with different model of testing like smith chart, polarized, vswr?
@jjoster
@jjoster 11 лет назад
Great video. Many thanks!
@hareti79
@hareti79 3 года назад
I'd be really interested to see an explanation of the cause of the parasitic oscillation on the base. How come there is no trace of it on the collector as well ?
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 года назад
It is common in BJT circuits to see such oscillation due to the base-emitter junction capacitance interactions with other circuit parasitics. A wise older engineer once told me - "always make sure that there is a "real" resistance in series with at least two legs of any BJT amplifier to prevent parasitic oscillation.
@hareti79
@hareti79 3 года назад
@@w2aew thanks for the swift reply on a 7 year old video! What i don't understand is that it doesn't look to be simple ringing of passive components in response to being driven by a fast edge or some such. There is no sign of the oscillation on the collector trace. How does the base-emitter junction capacitance cause oscillation when this effectively is a passive component of the transiator? You can't make an oscillator out of passive components as far as I am aware.
@pylonpeet
@pylonpeet Год назад
Thank you. Very informative video!
@grimreboot
@grimreboot 8 месяцев назад
Great upload thank you! 😊
@WaynJul
@WaynJul 7 лет назад
I was right as my guess it was some kind of filter. I asked Best Buy and Office Depot and no one knew. Your explanation is very good. I am trying to find the same length power supply cord for my adventure cam without the ferrite bead on it. The cord came with a ten year old Cannon camera but works on my Ultra Pro X 10. The length is 18". My next step is to try Radio Shack for the cord I need. Subbed and liked.
@ocdtechtalk
@ocdtechtalk 5 лет назад
LOL you asked Best Buy...You so funny.
@kd5smf
@kd5smf 11 лет назад
O.K. let's get down to the true grit here & make up some experiments with some toroid cores. Explain the differences and how wire wound cores help RF... especially all that ratio stuff we hear about with baluns & UN UNs.
@billwilliams6338
@billwilliams6338 5 лет назад
The AC cord plug into the back of an a piece of equipment, inside before the power supply there is a silver square box that filters out RFI/EMI from the AC outlet. Is there ferrites beads inside this RFI/EMI box or what kind of filters are inside these RFI EMI filters for the AC outlets. EE engineers have told me these AC RFI/EMI filters cause a lot of current leakage issues i'm guessing from the AC hot wire to the earth ground. I have tried opening up these silver box RFI/EMI filters but looks like filter cavities or something.
@rsa4510
@rsa4510 5 лет назад
I am curious if the scope was set for 50 ohm input impedance, or the nominal high impedance during the ferrite bead tests? It would seem to require 50 ohm input on the scope to get the voltage division associated with the filter, but maybe this is wrong...
@andrewferg8737
@andrewferg8737 2 года назад
Any suggestions on eliminating noise from a BLDC cooling fan in RF circuits? I have read and observed that this noise emanates from the fan's ground wire. The only solution I've found that really works is to use a seperate power supply for the fan, that is a seperate ground reference. The question is, can I create a truly isolated supply for the fan if it is using the same AC wall outlet voltage source as the RF circuit? I haven't figured out how to do this yet. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks always.
@1fertube
@1fertube 8 лет назад
congratulations! You have a new subscriber
@rpbale
@rpbale 3 года назад
Great video. Have you ever seen an assortment pack of beads? Can't seem to find any.
@pambudiychannel
@pambudiychannel Год назад
Thanks for the lesson sir… if i use emi ferite bead at end of grounding wire in motorcycle or car engine, is that can improve eletrical circulation and can get better performance?
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