This is some of the best Contant you guys have ever put up look at the joy on Yaris’s face the intensity, the passion, you guys haven’t had this much fun since I don’t remember
This is what it looks like when you put up 850whp vs 850hp. Mustang being 850hp at the crank, and BMW most likely being around 850hp at the wheels. Great race.
Yeah that's what it looked like. I'm not a fan of everyone in the UK always measuring power at the crank. If they do any mods at all, unless they are removing the engine and putting it on an engine dyno... you have to quote what it made at the wheels. Dyno's that convert it to crank hp are full of shite, their calculations are based on nothing but a guess.
Matt I can safely say ur channel is my favorite car channel to date! This was a solid race. Can you do some more M4 content possibly? That mustang was beautiful as well.
@@bmwbbNkiller Except..... We all know BMW are absolute junk heaps and even on a non-agressive Stage 1 they fall apart daily. Get real mate Mat has been in a lot faster and harder to control cars than this, his face clearly says "this things about to blow up in my face" No point denying what we can all clearly see.
@@bigduphusaj162 Eh, maybe they used to be, even back in the day this is a bit of an exaggeration. The S55's are actually insanely reliable and respond to mods very well. I'd recommend a little research.
@@992turbos On what road? They are common enough on NA roads. Are they so popular in UK or EU? They certainly are a major bargain in the cost/performance comparison.
@@fraserhenderson7839 Lol, I’m not saying they’re not a good bargain, of course they’re affordable, which is why a lot of high schoolers drive them. All I’m saying is for me, they don’t have much of a “wow factor” because I’ll just see another one in a minute.
I tought i could trust tom wringley he tuned my Babrus maybach now makes a 1,100hp and 1,500Nm and beat a chiron but sold it. For an easier to control car
Sold my stage 2 F82 & bought a Steeda Mustang 6MT Both epic & two completely different cars but personally Mustang takes it for the sound & fun factor being a manual
@@jh.f30 nah I had my fun after 106k miles lol F82 is an epic car & timeless design but I’d never buy the same car twice. V8 now, V10 next & then if i’m fortunate enough a V12 eventually. I have a bucket list 😂
3:46 sound check 5:08 first race 5:52 second race 6:47 third race 7:48 fourth race 8:50 fifth race 10:07 roll race 11:06 4th gear roll on 11:54 brake test
I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot..
@@Jallu555 factually incorrect, PD superchargers create great low down torque and good high end power but the peak power/torque band is more linear than a turbo, but centrifugal superchargers can run high 5’s competing and beating turbo vehicles
The coyote can handle a shitload of power….the trans…not so much lol. Bmw is lucky to survive that much boost I’m sure it will be done in after about 20 runs lol.
Gotta give praise to Matt's driving skills, catching the car when it's sliding when dragging is not easy to do, and he did it several times. Well done!
That’s the worst part of tuning a car up to it’s eyeballs … most of the power is unusable in an everyday situation and Matt clearly wasn’t enjoying it! The upgrade for the mustang is much more subtle and useful ! Yanni’s gear change face is priceless ! 😂
thats because beyond a certain horse power level you really should have the xdrive system. whether front or rear the car will spin its wheels and rear wheel drive has even less traction than front wheel. I think the mustang would lose to awd bmw
@@marthepedersen1454 no, only if it has 50/50 power distribution, to the front and rear wheels you mean. Weight distribution means nothing if all the power is only going to one side.. you will still get wheel spin
This is almost like one of those scenes from Fast and Furious from 2001 😄 Yanni = Dom and Matt = Brian, while trying to figure out what's wrong with his Mitsubishi Eclipse 😄
@@RayBanks_ hes face tho suits ff, but James bonds silver 7 series with the guns and all is the best ahhaha. I said the James bond joke about this cat in this comment section somewhere too lol
AHAH 5:59 i love how differently you guys are driving 😂 Matt seems like my grandma going at the supermarket while Yianny is all tilted forward aggressively changing gears 😂😂
Coz he knew he had to take that thing by the scruff of the neck😂 That's the only way you can get a mustang doing what you tell it. There is no other way to deal with they things you treat them like a sniffer dog or you will crash into the only pole for miles in an empty car park... or mow down the crowd
BMW during the drag race either needed someone that could control the traction better or a better surface. It was obviously the faster car it started to close the gap fast. Thing is a beast
It's been a while since we have seen a Mustang on this channel. 860hp, too! The past week, this video content has been no less than awesome, I have a feeling this is leading up to something on Saturday...
I’ve owned both of these (stock), currently in the F80. I cannot imagine what doubling the output does to the traction issue, as the car wants to spin through 2nd and 3rd even in stock trim. The turbocharged torque spike makes its very difficult for the car to put the power down, where the 5.0’s linear power band allows torque to build gradually- aiding in traction. This went exactly how I thought it would, great video!
there is a really BIIGG improvement if you have the Comp version. The driving dynamics on the Comp are like a lightyear better. I have driven multiple non-comps and owned a 2016 speed yellow comp. Never had problems with putting the power down (MPS4) and on a wet track the car was incredibly good.
@@Tatts084 It has something to do with dampers, springs and anti-roll bars, that's for sure. I am not an expert. The drive is incredibly different especially in slippery conditions. On a 3,5 km track a difference of about 3 sec with same tyres. edit: and that's in dry conditions, in wet much bigger difference at least when I am driving 😄
@@peterhammer6915 hmmm that's interesting, I didn't think there was such a difference in driving dynamics otherwise I would've just got a competition lol. I do like having the lumbar function though in the non comp haha
@@Tatts084 So with a supercharged V8 the powerband is similar to a Naturally Aspirated car (linearly increasing power steadily all the way through the rev range) where you essentially get more power the more rev's you give it, and unless there is a restriction in the intake, exhaust or head (cams, valves, ports) the engine will make max power at redline (7000-8000rpm depending where you decide to set it). But with a turbo car like the M3 the car is almost naturally aspirated until the exhaust spools the turbo enough to create positive boost pressure against the engine. So most turbo cars with a larger size turbo to make 800+hp will make little power, then around 3000rpm the power will start to increase and it will hit that point where the engine is happy to start making lots of torque from the boost the turbo is supplying, which creates more exhaust gas, which spools the turbo even more. So suddenly the power will ramp up increasing very violently until just after max torque, where torque will start to decrease and the increase in power will start to slow down, eventually rolling over and power will start to decrease. Usually this is where you would put the rev limiter so you dont start to lose power while racing. The problem with this is the sudden surge of power to the wheels and spike is torque is very difficult for the tires to maintain traction. But essentially you have gone without power early on in the rev range and you want to bring it up to max power as soon as possible. Often it is faster to adjust your boost controller to bring the boost in more steadily over a thousand rpm instead of trying to hit max boost all at once. Doing this will create a more linear power delivery which is easier for the tires to maintain grip. But ultimately it's choosing the right size turbo and having the power dialed in as quick as possible, but also just slow enough that you can put the power to the ground and therefore be as fast as possible with the maximum amount of power being put to the ground at any given rpm and road speed. It takes a bit of time and effort, so most people just smash the boost in and try to manage the loss of traction with the pedal, often cooking the tires more often than racing.
Why are so many people stuck on horsepower? Torque is what gets you going fast. Horsepower keeps you going fast. It’s in the definition. 1 horsepower is moving 33,000 pounds one foot in one minute.
Can't believe I had to scroll so far down to find a mention of that M3's wicked sound. Probably the best F80 M3 I have ever heard, followed closely by equal length mid pipes setup.
As much as I normally shoot Yianny down for his driving…. I gotta give him respect for his manual driving, his launches were fantastic for a shitty surface and being unfamiliar with the car. Beyond that…. Man was towing some gears. Props .
I wish Tom wrigley was behind the wheel of the M3, not only a tuner but he is a British racer, M3 is not something anyone can just handle. And traction fully off would have done better. Well done lads good video 📹 👏
Hey Matt. Maybe for these drag races, it's worth mentioning the tyres on each car and maybe getting same type of rubber for each car... Seems very odd that double the power of a standard M3 only equated to .2 of a second better 400m time... Kinda begs the point, why bother. I have an 2018 M3 Comp and surely it would put down about the same 400m time..which also means the Mustang didn't do so well either..maybe a different strip is needed for tuned cars..
I hope Matt see's this comment. Definitely he should mention the tire size, make and model on each car (some owners either don't know or don't care). I have about 850hp at the wheels and it's not easy to put the power down, my tires get to a couple of months old and i start to break into wheel spin every now and then. There are plenty of tires that are great for the street and putting down power without warming up - unlike a drag tire. I have been running Toyo R888r 315/30/18, Yokohama A052, AD09, Nankang AR1, Nankang CR-S, Nitto NT01. You just have to pick the tire that best suits your driving style and warm up times. Usually if i do around 100km/h and brake hard a couple of times the tires are all ready to go. Some like the Nitto AR1 and Toyo R888r can do about 1 minute of normal driving in traffic and ready to put down the power in every gear and can achieve 0-100 times in the 3 second range 7 times out of 10. If i run anything like a Michelin Pilot Super Sport, or PS4s the car may as well be on ice skates and i'm lucky to put down 500 of the 850hp.
This is why I don't like tuned cars. It is not that difficult to make it insanely fast, but putting the power on the road is the real deal. You got to be a superhero to drive them. On top of that, I am pretty sure after a few more races one (or both) of the cars would fail badly. This is what happens most of the times.
I really like the race between yianni and mat as drivers. Maybe sometimes they should let the cars owners race too, as they already know how to drive their beasts.
True, the drive train losses on that long ass 6 Speed are just making him lose. M3 just has the more efficient gearbox, though I still think, that BMW was way over 850HP or the Mustang way below 850HP
@@Introgamer14 drive train losses? What are you taking about? Parasitic losses on a manual are less than a torque converter auto or a DCT that’s in the M3. Longer gear ratios don’t contribute to drive train losses.
@@Introgamer14 it also nothing to do with one being way over 850hp or one below 850hp. It’s the fact one is super charged and one is turbo charged. The big single turbo has a spikey power delivery when it comes on boost. So has a very narrow power band where as the Mustang has a smooth broad power band due to the supercharger.
That was epic. Too bad it was only for a split second. I hit the pause button and his expression takes back to horror movies when you realize you're in deep 💩 🤣
You could tell the BMW had more power but that thing looked so hard to control. It’s definitely meant to be on a prepped drag surface with some ultra sticky tires.
Agree. It must be because lack of traction or something. Ran my stock C8 vette (495hp), with no spinning tho, and got an 11.4. So yeah, those cars are capable of WAAYYY better times.
