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#86 - NAD 3225PE stereo amplifier repaired and tested 

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Someone tossed this amplifier out with loose covers and missing screws. Apparently, this is an unfinished repair attempt. The amplifier was repaired and tested, and many details have been explained in the process.
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Комментарии : 76   
@JelckedeBoer
@JelckedeBoer 4 года назад
I don't understand why this channel doesn't have more subscribers. You an excellent technician, teacher and filmmaker. Thanks!
@tiborbogi7457
@tiborbogi7457 4 года назад
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@JamesHunterRoss
@JamesHunterRoss 4 года назад
That was amazing. I'm a software guy, I know nothing about electronics really, but to take something that is broke in an unknown way, dig in, figure it out and fix it IS amazing. I always wondered where one would even begin such a repair... and now I know. Thanks!
@almonzowilder4091
@almonzowilder4091 4 года назад
I watch these videos with great interest. I have no understanding of electronics and I'm not learning anything. But here I am.
@danstiurca7963
@danstiurca7963 Год назад
Look at that gorgeous hand layout. Those traces are art.
@nikmilosevic1696
@nikmilosevic1696 4 года назад
Another great repair, always good to mention cascading faults, I have seen to many people change one transistor at a time and wonder why they keep failing.
@kabdu68
@kabdu68 2 года назад
Awesome video. Thank you. I bought a 3225PE brand new in 1988 and still have it but it needs some TLC. Watching your video has given me the confidence to start the project.
@p4spooky
@p4spooky 4 года назад
Very systematic and thorough approach. Best 32 min I spent today. Excellent work. Subscribed.
@tonybell1597
@tonybell1597 4 года назад
Excellent work..... Proper old school repair... These videos have aided me to do my own repairs, saving classic old kit from the scrap heap. Thank you....
@ottoheidrich483
@ottoheidrich483 4 года назад
THIS GUY IS GOOD !!!! knows his stuff,thank you.
@notJW13383
@notJW13383 2 года назад
Thanks for making this video. Informative, clear and concise. Keep up the excellent work.
@DavidSmith-zx7wz
@DavidSmith-zx7wz 4 года назад
Always enjoy your videos, Thank You!!
@-yeme-
@-yeme- 4 года назад
excellent video. I had one of these amps in about 1994 when I worked my first job in a hifi shop. I bought it from a customer who was looking to trade up, used it for a couple of years before moving on to something else. it saw occasional use for the next dozen years or so, then I gave it to my nephew 5 or 6 years ago when he wanted something to use with a record player, and he's still using it daily. in all that time its never needed the lid taken off, not a peep of a fault.
@DiegoooTech
@DiegoooTech 4 года назад
I understood more of repairing from this single video then dozens of others. Thank ou very much. Subscribed ofc.
@davidv1289
@davidv1289 4 года назад
Well done! Thank you for another interesting video. I usually take a few pictures when disassembling equipment, especially when there will be a delay for parts. That plus some small containers for parts makes sure I can get it back together correctly.
@anonomus9783
@anonomus9783 4 года назад
Now I need more videos from you. I enjoyed this walk-through.
@electropatagonico
@electropatagonico 4 года назад
very nice repair! always waiting to see notifications from your channel!
@therealbmaphill
@therealbmaphill 4 года назад
I bought one of these in 89 and am still using it today. Nice to see another one rectified. Mine still purrs like a kitten as it did on day one. Dust was never an issue.
@Ogma3bandcamp
@Ogma3bandcamp 4 года назад
Best electronics teacher out there.
@jacobsteel
@jacobsteel 3 года назад
Good job! I gave up on an attempt on this one, couldn't find the right drivers. Great to see someone succed! :D
@twobob
@twobob 2 года назад
I think that's the exact NAD my brother had in the 90's, great amps.
@pascalphase2556
@pascalphase2556 3 года назад
Very very instructive, bravo from France !
@cjay2
@cjay2 4 года назад
Great repair work, well-explained, no-nonsense, and highly knowledgeable. Subscribed. My other fave channels for electronics repair are Uncle Doug and D-Lab.
@JohnUsp
@JohnUsp 4 года назад
Excellent class. Thank you very much.
@Lyndalewinder
@Lyndalewinder 4 года назад
Great video - thanks for posting
@glenslick2774
@glenslick2774 4 года назад
I still have an NAD 4020A AM/FM Stereo Tuner I bought new almost 40 years ago. I bought that with a matching NAD 3020 integrated amplifier, which I no longer have. I got a lot of use out of those in my college days.
@saarike
@saarike 4 года назад
Great repair and vid! Thanks
@ashpowell9451
@ashpowell9451 4 года назад
Great, thanks. This unit was similar to the type I scavenge, nearly always multiple failures and fun to fix.
@marksplace
@marksplace 4 года назад
Awesome info, thanks for sharring. :)
@SoddingaboutSi
@SoddingaboutSi 4 года назад
NAD. New Acoustic Dimension. I'm full of useless info. One of the reasons NAD amps blow up more than most, is the lack of Emitter follower resistors.
@sw6188
@sw6188 4 года назад
I call them "Noise And Distortion". I see too many of these on my bench for repair, and you're right - no emitter resistors. I always add them. The trouble is you can spend hours on these things pulling and replacing all the dead parts, and at the end of it you still have an amp that's nothing special.
@jeroenschuuring6060
@jeroenschuuring6060 3 года назад
@@sw6188 ive been using a 7240 by NAD for wel over thirty years now. Besides an output relay Never had any problems with it.
@sw6188
@sw6188 3 года назад
@@jeroenschuuring6060 You got one of the better ones then.
@AnonymousRepair
@AnonymousRepair 4 года назад
Great video
@lynxissiodorensis2319
@lynxissiodorensis2319 4 года назад
Good work, thanks.
@shamalperera4875
@shamalperera4875 Год назад
Good tutorial ...
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 4 года назад
What a smashing repair, i love the old school amplifiers :-D The black module type amplifiers are not too reliable. The second i saw the T03 transistors i thought 2n3055, i have used them in power supplys and amplifier repairs with it's complimentry pnp :-) That NAD didn't look too high a quality, most of the parts looked quite ordinary. People payed a lot for NAD amplifiers on the understanding that the money was spent on the inside.
@ronniebrown8775
@ronniebrown8775 4 года назад
great job! I enjoyed that one! My knowledge of amplifiers is sorely lacking!
@paullazarro531
@paullazarro531 4 года назад
Great job! I'm subbed.
@johnbravo7542
@johnbravo7542 4 года назад
Great video :)
@etienneguyot9069
@etienneguyot9069 4 года назад
Well done. Great!
@DrFrank-xj9bc
@DrFrank-xj9bc 4 года назад
Nice narration and excellent repair, as always
@amirb715
@amirb715 4 года назад
excellent repair job and video as always. by the way, you could use the FFT on scope to measure the THD of the output signal or at least check the quality in terms of harmonics
@-szega
@-szega 4 года назад
Digital scopes really aren't good enough to do that on audio amplifiers when they are working correctly.
@2626sylver2626
@2626sylver2626 4 года назад
You got you self a new subscriber 🙂🙂👏👏👍
@EMTdrummer
@EMTdrummer 4 года назад
Great video with a pro at work......
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom 4 года назад
Nice repair as always, well done.
@paulpaulzadeh6172
@paulpaulzadeh6172 4 года назад
Could you do measurements on THD , use 2 channel oscilloscope, and make different between channel one and two, channel one can be input channel two can be output with resistor divider to scale it down . You can do it over frequency with 4 ohm load
@djblackarrow
@djblackarrow 4 года назад
You did a very nice job! I also often repair Amplifiers. In most cases i get Car-HiFi, PA and Home-Cinema Amplifiers. And i can say that 90% of all dead AMP's has blown fuses in cause of grilled driver- and Output Stages. When i bring the repaired AMP back to it's owner i like to look closely how they connect them to their speakers. I often see Speakers with too low impedances for the AMP. And sometimes the owners have connected more than one speaker in parallel to one channel so the impedance is way to low. If you put two 4 Ohm speakers in parallel you get 2 Ohms. When you put them in series you get 8 Ohms. When they didn't understand the Problem, i like to show them the impedance-results with a simple Multimeter that is set to resistance measure Mode. I simply reconnect the Speakers in a way so the AMP don't gets overloaded. The most devices shows informations about the allowed impedances depending on the wiring printed on the backside near the speaker Terminals or somewhere else. Or you have to read the manual to do it right. And i know for Home-Use the most Amplifiers are designed for impedances of 8 to 6 Ohms. 4 Ohm devices exists, but they are not so popular. I only knew some expensive Home Cinema Systems that can easily handle 8 to 4 Ohm and some down to 2 Ohm. My last two Home Cinema Amp's can handle down to 4 Ohms but i first have to activate this in a special setting menu BEFORE connecting the speakers. Car HiFi AMP's are normally designed for minimum 4 Ohms - Current devices can handle down to 2 and 1 Ohms. But you always have to read the Manual to make sure you don't fry your Amp with stupid connections. I have two 4-channel Amp's that can handle down to 2 Ohms in 4-Channel Mode. When i set it to 3 Channel Mode (two channels in bridge mode) the allowed imedance of the bridge is limited to 4 Ohms while the other two channels can still handle down to 2 Ohms. I believe the manufacturer's information and i don't like to test it otherwise. There are many ways to fry an AMP. And Remember - Only 80Watts electrical power is enough for a full fire.
@vizion68
@vizion68 4 года назад
Wow, a PE. Top of the line back then
@danstiurca7963
@danstiurca7963 Год назад
Does anyone know why those resistors have a loop in one of the pins? Is it a mechanical vibration mitigation, or some sort of additional inductor?
@gordthor5351
@gordthor5351 2 года назад
Does anyone know why there is a loop in 2 resistors legs at 14:30. I have never seen that before.
@dassarullen
@dassarullen 4 года назад
Great video! Thank you for being so clear and making this a step by step tutorial. More of this please Subscribing as for today
@dankolov1839
@dankolov1839 3 года назад
hello, I have a Nad 3020A, will there be a problem with the amplifier if I turn on my dac in LAB IN and remove the jumpers from NORMAL IN and PRE OUT? I have never used LAB IN, but when I included my dac in it. The sound has improved significantly. But I don't know if I use this switch, is there a problem with the amplifier? Thanks and send greetings.
@mixisixi2367
@mixisixi2367 4 года назад
I have a model 602 NAD stereo cassette deck which powers up but otherwise does not work. I really like the unit and have not been willing to just throw it away. I would be happy to ship it to you if it's OK.
@doctordorkmeister5330
@doctordorkmeister5330 4 года назад
thanks for the video yo! nice work
@cschang3282
@cschang3282 4 года назад
Good way to build perfect pre amp-power Amp connectors, just build one set, thanks
@gyncogatz5908
@gyncogatz5908 3 года назад
Hello, a newbie here, I have a similar AMP. L-Channel is OK but the R-Channel is distorted. What could be the potential causes? btw, before this, the AMP has no power, found 1A F505 fuse is busted i replaced it, Q508 also resoldered, and the power turns ON. But R-Channel is distorted. pls adivse thanks
@Bucefal76
@Bucefal76 4 года назад
Nice job. And charming Russian accent. 😊 By the way, shall you use 240V bulb instead fuse at first power up?
@strahlnan
@strahlnan 7 месяцев назад
Witam serdecznie . Borykam się z nad 3225 pe którym mam problem ze zwarciem w lewym kanale niby wszytko jest ok i gra ale po dodaniu głośności pala się prawie wszystkie tranzystory i dwa rezystory, jaka może być tego przyczyna sprawdziłem juz prawie wszystkie kondo i są one ok wiec co może powodować te przypadłość Włączony przez żarówkę 100 w lekko się ona żarzy z góry dziękuję za wszystkie propozycje Hello and welcome . I'm struggling with the 3225 pe, which I have a problem with a short circuit in the left channel, everything seems to be OK and it plays, but after adding the volume, almost all the transistors and two resistors light up, what could be the reason? I've already checked almost all the condos and they are ok, so what could be the reason? cause this condition. Turned on by a 100 W bulb, it glows slightly. Thank you in advance for all your suggestions
@judges69
@judges69 4 года назад
Great video. I have the 3020 with bad channel, uses same transistors but I can't figure it out😩 with I had your skill level
@djblackarrow
@djblackarrow 4 года назад
I have a tip: When measuring a NPN or PNP Silicon Transistor with a Multimeter set to Diode Test the measured voltage drop should be near to 0.7V (700mV). The value for common silicon diodes is between 0.5 volts and 0.8 volts. Typical near 0.7V. For NPN Transistors put the positive measuring tip on the Base and the negative to Collector and/or Emitter. For PNP Transistors put the negative measuring tip on the Base and the positive to Collector and/or Emitter. In-circuit-measurements can be difficult due to other components like capacitors, resistors, diodes. So make a picture of the positions of the components and then desolder it to measure it outside of the circuit. It can also be a bad (leaking) capacitor that acts more like a resistor than a cap. In Audio devices capacitors are often use to block DC. When such a capacitor by the time acts like a resistor this can go horrible wrong.
@cjay2
@cjay2 4 года назад
This video should be sufficient for you to do the repair. He covered everything that you need to know about testing transistors, reading schematics and being thorough.
@danielross868
@danielross868 2 года назад
Hi FeedbackLoop. I notice you showed some images of parts used. Regarding the transistors 2SB649AC and 2SD669AC as shown in NAD schematic. When searching there is a lot of confusion on the Hfe classification suffix "C" and of course I want to stay away from Ebay sellers (Bad experience with transistors , probably fake) Some major supplies like LCSC have as AC and others A-C. I see one package shows the 2SB649A-C from LCSC and viewing your footage, seems to work OK, so assume is Hfe C. The other is the 2SD669A "C" which you don't show package. LCSC show a 2SD669A and their spec sheet doesn't really indicate if part is C "Hfe", instead shows all B,C,D variations. I have an email with them , no answer as yet. Did you order - Manufacturer Foshan Blue Rocket Elec, Mfr. Part # 2SD669A, LCSC Part #C328595 ??. Last part was BD139. Digi Key have BD139G ( which I have) and also noticed they have BD130-10 ( higher min Hfe I think and what is in NAD Schematic). What did you use from Digi? as yours seem to work well. Do you think the BD139G would also be suitable- specs seem same apart from lower Min Hfe . Thks
@feedback-loop
@feedback-loop 2 года назад
Yes, 2SD669A was LCSC part C328595. Regarding BD139-10, I clearly showed the DigiKey label @19:40. Not sure about BD139G. Most probably should work fine, but I wanted to keep the channels as close to each other as possible.
@allencrider
@allencrider 4 года назад
I want you to have a pair of expensive speakers.
@casio912
@casio912 28 дней назад
Наверное уже не звучит как 3020 A // Series 20
@pvb9964
@pvb9964 4 года назад
Quite old? Then my stereo stuff is ancient, 1980 or older, the Japanese golden era.
@ZafarKhan-qs5ry
@ZafarKhan-qs5ry 4 года назад
CRAP, EVERYTHING LOOK LIKE RUNNING IN SLOW MOTION.
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