@@blockedpot there's two versions, one is the 2.4 wireless one and then there's one called the Bluetooth one, though in my opinion it needs to be called something else. The Bluetooth one happens to cost more but have a lot more features on it. I ordered the wireless one by mistake when I was trying to order the Bluetooth one.
@@-aid4084 There's actually 4 versions of the "Ultimate" line. The first one that was released was the Ultimate Wired for Xbox Series X/PC. The next 3 were released together, the Bluetooth, the 2.4g, and the wired. Bluetooth is wireless, has hall-effect sticks, and can do bluetooth, 2.4g and wired. It's for Switch and PC. 2.4g is wireless, can only do 2.4g and wired. Switch and PC. The wired is for PC.
Nintendo came up with the ABXY layout, it was Sony and Microsoft who came in and changed it for some weird reason. I personally prefer the accept button being on the right, but it’s nice to have options. Most PC games will let you remap anything to anything anyways.
Sony actually stuck to that design, in Japan at least (and in some games like Metal Gear Solid) where cross is “B” and Circle is “A”. I think Sony Computer Entertainment America chose to model themselves more after Microsoft, probably thinking they’re an American company doing well, so they copied a bit off Microsoft to appeal to Western Audiences. But yeah, I actually prefer the way Sony (Japan) and Nintendo do it. Xbox always threw me way off.
All Japanese version of games always use the circle as the confirmation as that's what they use when they check stuff (mostly in tests) and X being cancel for obvious reasons. It still is weird that western consoles opt to just do the opposite of what made more sense, like why would X make more sense to be confirm when it generally means "no" to most people?
No mention of 8bitdo's Ultimate Software that allows you to remap everything and adjust stick sensitivity etc. (or did I blackout when it was mentioned). I use this all the time with my Pro 2 and I think this controller works similarly. Works on Windows, Android, and iOS. Three remapped profiles (plus the default layout) can be stored directly on the device and switched on the fly. Truly a game changer for me!
The ultimate software that isn’t compatible with the Bluetooth mode? That doesn’t have an option to bind button or keyboard combinations to the back paddles and leaves you forced to bind a macro if you want an approximation of that? Which still has issues because hitting a macro disables all other inputs until the macro is finished executing? It’s physically a good controller, but they need to do some more quality control on their software execution. I probably should have gone a step down to the cheaper option since I was expecting to be able to use the back paddles in Bluetooth mode. It can randomly decide to be a different player when which is a never ending source of frustration when you have a working controller that is connected when you test inputs through various means to see if is perfectly functional but the games you have active do not respond to inputs. And I had to figure this out myself because there is no official documentation for this problem. I have not yet found a fix for it other than restarting which is an unacceptable solution to be forced into.
Thanks for the video! Picked this up for my switch when it came out. If you're looking for a game to play with the triggers, I highly recommend Astral Chin. Keep up the great work!
FYI, Nintendo’s ABXY layout started all the way back on the SNES! I prefer this layout to the XBOX layout, but it’s probably just because I grew up with the SNES.
Nintendo had a lot of firsts with their controllers, the ABXY buttons as you say also if memory serves correctly, the shoulder buttons, a trigger button on the 64, the first thumbstick, rumble, etc, possibly even the first 6-axis motion control. Nintendo don't get the credit for the huge innovations they have made in gaming as they aren't seen as cutting edge for machine specs. They had their fingers badly burnt with the N64, stupidly went with gamecards in fear of their games being copied which restricted the quality and size of their games due to limited data and allowed Playstation to give them a spanking. The Playstation was originally designed for Nintendo but because they refused to go down the route of more easily pirated CDRoms they designed their own cartridge based N64 instead and Sony continued with the CD machine selling it themselves. Greed has cost Nintendo dearly many times over the years, the GameCube with its tiny discs once again for fear of piracy and then again, the Wii-U where the screen could only be used within 10ft of the console just to make sure that customers still had to buy a DS/3DS and a completely different set of games for mobile gaming. I wonder would Sony have ever entered the gaming market if Nintendo would have continued a partnership with Sony. I also wonder will Nintendo ever use common sense over greed. They could have been the biggest Games Company ever but squandered each and every opportunity for the small dollar.
I've had this controller for about 4 months and used it extensively on a handful of different kinds/genres of games, both on PC and Switch, and I gotta say it's overall a very very solid controller. Probably my favorite controller, which was previously the PS5 controller, and before that it was a tie between the 360 and Xbone controller Really my only complaint is that the shape of the controller feels a bit too narrow, so my wrists are bent more than they would be with most other controllers with a wider grip. After long play sessions (2+ hours) my left wrist in particular can feel sore unless I consciously hold the controller with an unnaturally loose grip.
@@Milan-cf1xe yes, you turn on the controller and then shake it and it will wake the Switch if you have the stand with dongle connected to the Switch.
Once you get the chance, can you review the Eswap S Pro? Not sure if you're still taking requests, but if you are, there ya go. Take care man. Thanks for the reviews as always
Hey Ryan, thanks for the video. I own this controller and it’s my fav gamepad for PC and switch, I few things you missed in the review that might have been worth mentioning . The dock contains a 2.4 dongle in its base (no need to buy one to use with this controller). The components of the Xbox and ultimate controller are a bit different, primarily the sensing tech used in the sticks, the ultimate controller uses hall-effect to detect position of the sticks, this is to eliminate the chance of stick drift common to switch controllers. The last cool thing, that I wouldn’t expect from you video, but is cool anyway, the screws are standard Phillips cross head screws, so it’s easier to repair and mod, as compared to the Xbox that uses security screws and the switch Pro that uses proprietary bs screws. Love your content, stay awesome.
Yep, hall effect joysticks is what made this and GuliKit KingKong 2 controllers the only one I considered. The included dock and dongle allowing me to just use 2.4 for my PC and switch to Bluetooth for Switch and the two back buttons made me settle on the 8bitdo Ultimate, but I do prefer the Xbox controller shape of the KingKong 2.
@@jeremiahr3615 I'm so glad I'm not the only one, the same thing happened to me. Gorgeous controller though, if we could have had better YXAB buttons on that thing with some back-buttons it would have been the best controller I've ever touched
indeed, ive been using this controller for maybe 3 months now, ive dropped it few times but no issues, sticks centered at all times, and its a blast still getting destroyed in apex but with a better roller. only issue is the circularity, the deadzone test has roughly 13-25% error, but the centering is flawless, just makes for weird acceleration issues.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the 8BitDo Ultimate (Switch version). Been interested in buying this for myself the past few weeks! Are you planning to hang on to your review unit?
"I get where it comes from." - shows Gamecube controller. Clearly you don't. The labels on the buttons have been reversed since the original Famicom since the Japanese read from right to left. In Japan the confirm and cancel buttons have almost always been that way even on modern games. The swapped buttons were only a thing outside Japan and only started on the 5th generation of consoles. Even then it wasn't as standard as you may think because some games used the top button as cancel.
I use the back paddles as face buttons and turbo those as needed instead of turboing the face buttons on or off. Example is like mapping one of them to A button and then turbo that after to fast read in Pokémon and then normally use the A button when in menus. I too am an adult man that plays video games lol
You forgot to mention the 2.4 dongle included on the dock, this alone increses the value by a lot. You can use it on any PC to connect without bluetooth.
I have tried using it to connect the controller to the PC, but as soon as I try to connect the controller in the 2.4G mode with the dongle inserted to my laptop, my internet was basically destroyed. Bluetooth mode also does this when tring to connect the controller to PC via Bluetooth and I have no idea how to fix it in the slightest.
Hey, I've got Bluetooth (hall effect sticks) version and there is a little play on every stick, about 0.5mm until I can feel resistance from springs. Is it normal?
When u put it on the dock it'll automatically turn off. When picking it up off it it automatically turns on. To turn off/on without the dock it's exactly like the Xbox with the LED.
There exist coupon codes if you look, I used a 10% off that the seller had on their Amazon page, paid $63 for the ultimate Bluetooth edition controller, that’s including 7.25% sales tax. Coupons are less common with Nintendo stuff unless it’s a general store coupon or store sale. But I’ve seen several bigger coupon codes, like 15-20%, after I ordered mine on a whim. Also, the hall sensing sticks put it leagues above the Nintendo Pro Controller in that alone, and that’s not counting the other defects common with the Pro Controller. Kinda weird you give it a 3/5 for value citing the Switch Pro Controller as a price point given those two things. It comes in $10 less than the DualSense, and on par with Xbox Series Controllers and competes with those better. You seem to treat it like it’s a switch only controller at some points (even if it were, the 2.4 ghz option, and hall sensing makes it better than Nintendo’s wired or Bluetooth only Pro Controller with drift) One positive that I haven’t seen any other review mention is the direct comparison to the Pro 2 controller, in size, features and price point. I’ll say this video was certainly a different take than I’m used to, and minus my criticisms it was a good video. You get a sub for making it through this criticism and for making good content.
I have to give Feedback about the Part of the Button-Layout: I think it's not fair to complain against Nintendo for "missing Layout-Unification", because Microsoft are the ones which messed up. Look at the SNES-Controller, released in 1990(!), which already have the typical Nintendo-ABXY-Layout. Sony was nice enough to put completely new Symbols on a similar shaped Controller in 1994. But Microsoft in 2001, on the first XBox, must thought something like "y'all mess up with Nintendo-Players around the world" and also uses ABXY, but placed them everywhere else than Nintendo did. Nintendo sticks with it's Button-Layout since then, and so does Microsoft...
Dude, I swear your content is so underrated. You go in depth with the tech, which is what we need. Keep up the good work. (I'm in need when it comes to good tech. More so controllers for the switch.)
man i'm so lucky my gullikit king kong 2 pro controller got squeaky buttons in less than a month so i was able to return it and get the 8bitdo at a discounted price just waiting for it to come in the mail
Thanks for the review. I hope Nintendo sticks with the A B button layout. Since they set the standard for that layout since the Nes. It’s the other companies that took the sidewise.
Hi can someone help to answer this please. Can this controller work on genshim impact on pc? Or i need to install genshin to steam then it would work? Just want to make sure it before i buy it since i never found the tutorial.
I refunded the 8bitdo pro 2 I had it in gray it was good but thr triggers are to loose I bought the 8bitdo ultimate in white and wow it’s way better I love that triggers there so tight almost feels like a digital trigger and the bumpers are like the ps4 controller it’s the best to me
I went through 2 official Xbox One controllers to find out they aren't meant to last for longer than a year before the sticks start to drift. Bought a 8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller on sale for $47 USD. Hopefully it'll last longer.
i choose Gulikit KingKong 2 Pro Controller because i can replace the keycap to the xbox layout I'm mainly a pc gamers so it's better for me that i can replace the keycap to xbox layout and the supplier of hall sensor on this controller is gulikit.
At least on Playstation side, it used to be that Circle button was the general confirm button for sometime over in Japan too if I recall correctly. I bring this up because it is in the same general position of the A button on the SNES controller. For some of us that grew up with gaming start to finish it's kind of sad that people see the default SNES layout, and get confused by it. It's almost as if parts of history are fading into obscurity..
My Switch pro controller has drift, my joycons would disconnect randomly when playing splatoon 3. Thinking about picking this up crazy how I got spend this much just to just play splatoon as intended
@@TheHornet79 I’m too scared about drift on the Nintendo pro controller, so I’m thinking about picking this one. But I’ve never bought a third parties controller, in your opinion worth it? I play splatoon a lot too
Ryan lad, the critique was ok but 8bitdo doesn't use the same parts in the various iterations of the 8bitdo Ultimate line of controllers as functionality and price vary per model.
the nintendo abxy has been a thing since the snes. Xbox is the weird one who decided it should be flipped. I have a feeling they did that cause they were copying the american layout of ps1 games where X is the confirm button and circle is the back button. Oddly in japan playstation games kept it similar to nintendo where circle is confirm and x is back.
Guys, for those who want this controller regarding to the Hall Effect joystick, you have to choose the Bluetooth version, otherwise, you will fall into the traditional joystick.
The sticks are half garbage, I've gotten two so far with grindy/rusty sticks. Idk if it's a manufacturing issue or they're stored in a dank moist warehouse.
One thing I've learned over the weekend is that this haul magnetic triggers are very overrated like a lot and I mean a lot!!! I've seen too many videos of guys falls praising these magnetic sticks that a a used in the Sega Dreamcast ban in the days and there is a reason why they dropped those sticks, they are very far from accurate and the calibration is always easy off. I would confirm that people should stay at from magnetic haul sticks. I recently bought a gulikit zen pro controller and they are trash!!! Dpad sucks, the analog sticks calibration are terribly off and not even the built in switch calibration mode can't fix them. Also the controller has did lag and latency out of the box. 8bitdo makes best controllers on all levels so I'll give this one a try before I give up on the overrated haul sticks. Who knew, mabye 8bitdo may be the one to get it right. I've read reviews where people confirm that they are having the same issues with the magnetic sticks
For 60 bucks you get the base, hall effect sticks on the Bluetooth and wireless version, and two back buttons, and you managed to say a dualsense would be better 🤦♂️ Dualsense and xbox controller are a rip-off, even moreso the pro versions. In 2024 hall effect is a muat and it's not that hard or costly to implement Lets pay 70 bucks for a controller that will drift after 6 months of intense use
I cared about the dock, it does not have HD Rumble, it does not have NFC. The Hall effect sticks and mappable buttons are nice touches for me personally. (Edit to reflect it does not have HD Rumble)
Is it good with Super Smash brothers and Crash Team Racing?. I kinda want to get one like that because I've been using the joycons for a while and I don't like the idea of wear and tear.
