Misha went full ari vatanen at pikes peak mode on this one, shielding the sun with his hand and of course your videos with hondas never seem to disappoint when it comes to entertainment
As a person who has owned 5 DC2 Integra Type R, and over 10 EG Hatch civics…..both of which I’ve had as B18, and K20….I currently have a K20 EG, but can honestly say the DC2 chassis is the best chassis to K swap. The EG and DC2 are so similar that every mechanical part can be directly removed from one and attached to the other. I’ve had EG civics with “every” DC2 part which can be swapped swapped. They are both amazing cars, but for me the DC2 has this tiny bit of magic that makes it almost telepathic feeling. Yes the rear is a little more lively in stock form because the DC2 has thick sway bars, but the lift off oversteer can be dialed in and out on both cars simply with tyre and rear ARB size. For me the DC2 just has something the EG doesn’t in the handling department. Especially at the times when you start to lose control or grip on one of your wheels. Whatever chassis you choose you’ll love it tho.
@@Euphorica I know, and they are still very popular, but civic is not hated around the world, only in murica and its a excellent drivers car that beats around the ring some murican cars that they praise with 3X less power. That is my whole point xD And even if it didnt beat them, the emotions that they claim matters the most is higher in a cheap civic than in those vibrating ships.
I've run both chassis, EG and DC2 and i found that the EG is a more ballance chassis. Dont go b16 turbo, it will overheat like hell. B18c are now dynosaures, the youngest on have 20 years old and when you open it up to add cams, piston or anything else, they are no more reliable. Go K engine swap. You will have a 6 speeds trany that fit with the K. If you want more power than a NA k serie add a supercharger, not a turbo. Cheer from Québec, Canada
@@scottpolston6137 SuperCharger for sure on a track/Circuit car, SuperCharger makes the power curve so predictable and always there. Its also less parts so less stuff to F up, with the kits they have these days ive seen 400+whp on stock f20 s2000's run hard with no issues. SC>TurBo for the 💍...
This was the most fun I’ve had in a Honda for a while. That B series engine is a beautiful orchestra. They’ll go down as one of the all time great engines.
If you could find one, a first generation CR-X would be incredibly cool to see as a ring ripper. It's hard to go wrong with an Integra though, NA K24 with a big wing would be fun.
Great lap! Love the DC2. If you're doing for a Honda build with a K-swap, you should get the engine built by Sneaky Tuning in Almere, NL. The owner knows how to build and tune these engines like no-one else! Greetings from a proud S2000 owner. 😊
I was just saying on another video last week that I'd love to see Misha rip a DC2 around the track. A week later and here it is. A coincidence of course, but oddly so. Thanks for this. The DC2 Integra will always be one of my favorite cars ever built. (was a 1995 Integra GS-R owner for many enjoyable years)
It's impressive (comparing B18 with a K24) how the relative lack of torque, makes the dynamic weight transfer F>R under WOT way less noticable. The K24 EG was permanently "light" on the front, so much so that it makes the car way more demanding and, ultimately, exciting/"sweaty". The DC2 is a perfect driving 'scalpel', yet, the relative lack if excitement makes it far more difficult to appreciate its dynamic virtues. Brilliant stuff!
Oh PS to Misha: Inspect ALL bushings. The car is more than 25 years old. Very rare to find a car over that age without a split bushing or two unless it was a superb owner that was meticulous in their maintainence. Might want to check wheel bearings.
Trust me, all bushings and every part is like new and in great condition. Checking and maintaining all few thousand KMs. I own the car more than 10 years and build it from stock 😉
@@hoernchenmeister Very nice!!! All too often in repairing cars of that vintage I am recommending replacements for the owners. I personally have a couple Honda, both are various durometer of poly for appropriate ride quality and nvh + control
Misha, try to go for a K24A2 with a 6 speed LSD transmission, with just a good header, VTC gear and ECU tune, it's easy to make good power. By the way, the EG/DC platform is pretty much identical suspension wise. I'd suggest trying to drive different suspension set ups, front stiff or rear stiff, etc.
I love FWD tail happy cars, it's what I grew up driving fast. Once you get used to it having the rear break traction in a fast corner feels so natural. The DC2 is rated as one of the best ever handling FWD car.
If I were you Misha, I would buy an EG shell and spend the extra money on suspension parts and making sure the engine can generate either the torque or the top-end hp to perform decent past Breidsheit. That would mean any number of things, but the big issue with the B or K engines is the rods can’t handle much torque if boosted down low. Either I would focus on building a K20/B18 and add a small turbo or roots supercharger OR a K24 with K20A head and make sure the rods are sufficient on both options. As for the suspension, DC parts can be swapped over to the EG platform straight up and both are double wishbone on the front. You could even build an AWD OR RWD Civic since rear driveline parts are available and even billet transfer cases if you were worried about toughness. The world is your oyster, as they say! Cheers! 🖖😎👍
Drives me crazy. Evening drives on B-roads in the autumn season, going west, I can’t see a thing. I have to wear my golf sunglasses to mitigate as much sun as possible.
Great lap Misha! Whichever chassis you decide to go with, i really hope you document it and put it out there for us to see. Cheers for the amazing content!
And get regular dynos to prove the effect of each part. That and datalogs. Going on track has allowed me to know what is bullshit and what is worth it.
@@BrodeyDoverosx aye they are, I almost bought one back in the days but needed more space so I got the CH1 Accord R, had it for 8 years 168'000km never an issue.
Thats a great platform, and with the technology available today, easily convert to AWD for that extra performance. And I want to add that is some impressive mileage 465k km. That's a cool 288k Miles very nice. Keep it running!
With the enthusiasm that Misha has when rocking VTEC Rickshaws I'm surprised a Civic hasnt been born yet. A high compression K series with a Rotrex would be a perfect Ring weapon.
Definitely wins the price for "reckless lack of visibility" for the entire season. Seriously, not cleaning your windshield can reduce your visibility down to nothing, low sun position drives this point home...
I just took out my '96 B18B non-VTEC witttthhh a head build, 200hp non-VTEC monster😂for a drive after watching this! I felt bad, hadn't driven it in a couple of weeks. Loving the recent Honda/Acura content! Brings me back to the mid to late 2000s...I think I'm still a tech moderator on Superhonda forum hahaha. I've got a '24 M4 Comp coming to the garage to sit beside my Teg - I know they'll be besties :)
Tires/Wheels best upgrade to start. Spoon has some super light wheels with perfect offset, as does ADVAN/Yokohama Wheels. I like some of the Mugen wheels, but they are ultra rare at this point, especially the gunmetal ones. Focus on chassis, mo' powa is always mo problems.
Dc2 chassis tend to have the edge on track over EG when moded. Maybe down to aerodynamics or just the extra length that could probably help the car rotating. Also, the rear wheel wells are stiffer as well as the C pillar area. Egs tend to dominate in drag racing, though
EG holds a special place in my heart, along with a proper beater, 4-door 88 civic, like the one I had, which I bought for the princely sum of $50, when I first moved to Los Angeles in 2001. So racy and fun at sane speeds, altho the passenger footwells would flood in the rain :). I miss that car
You should really make a DC2 build instead of EG/EK hatch. Chassis is more capable; it's regarded as the best FWD chassis ever made. (Source: trust me bro) They also look amazing, especially with the JDM DC2 nose swap🥰 K20 or K20/K24 Frank swap is the way to go: NA with different cams, high flow 4-1 manifold etc. Really hope to see this on your channel someday😁
There is nothing more satisfying to drive on a super fast circuit than a lightweight high rpm momentum car.. Just imagine how satisfying it would be to have an open track without other cars to kill your momentum.. These Honda and Acura's are pure bliss to wring out on track, not my favorite to drive on the street, but man they are fun at full song..But, These little lightweight Honda cars are the perfect track weapon, as they are cheap and cost almost nothing in consumables, and will hurt the feelings of someone who thinks they are awesome, just because they could write a check for a Porche.. LOL
ive driven a stock type R one of these and the performance was crazy , everything is real sharp, suspension is hard, brakes are snappy and the engine sings
I was just like you, Misha…I wanted an integra chassis with an eg front end so i bought an Ej1 (eg coupe) and threw in a built gsr turbo. If you’re stuck in between like i was, then i would definitely recommend the coupe version with it’s longer wheel base
if the rear is unstable, more camber probably wont help. more toe in will help. also, if he is running a certain style of trailing arm bushings......the big ones in the middle of the trailing arms....that might also explain the lose rear end. there are some companys out there that make poly bushes for these trailing arms that kinda dont really work well because the arms can slide left and right on these....wouldnt be suprised if he has those
@@hoernchenmeister ok das könnte erklären warum das heck unruhig is. energy suspension macht die dicken buchsen im längslenker scheisse. original sind die ja auf diesen pin aufvulkanisiert. wenn man da jetz ne ES buchse drauf macht kann der lenker auf der buchse nach links und rechts rutschen und das darf der nich. mach da entweder ne originale buchse rein oder spoon oder hardrace.
@@arcanevoid9199 some want a more stable rear end. i would agree that lift off oversteer is nice on turn in. but i think his loose rear end has another cause anyway
I started a honda racing car club in 1993 for a few years (a couple years before the civic and integras Type R came out). Its amazing to see how car engines and handling has come. 25 years ago this was an elite front drive racer. Its really aged in a strange familiar way. But really not all that fasr. You have had stock newer underpowered cars do better than this in most spots. I have great memories of 1990s hondas and acuras though....
Got to be DC2! Can be made to look so good with a wing, I have 2 an ITR and non ITR import (currently in the middle of K-swapping) Make it happen Misha!
So glad you got to drive a Dc2, put 130,000 miles on my UK Type R around England and Europe and enjoyed every minute. Probably the only car I really regret selling 😢
Misha, go for EG with K20/K24 Frank and add a blower if you need more of that torqzzzz. You will have a reliable and "budget" ~900kg car with roughly 360-400 hp, depending on your setup.
Had one of these (UK model) for 16 years as a daily driver. Was a great car but the rust was the thing which destroyed it. Mine was standard but I used to love the engine noise.
this car is great, I have an ep3 at the moment and if I had to change it would be for a dc2 without hesitation. on the other hand it is a mistake to switch to larger rims, you have to stay in 15 or 16 inches, especially since the original Integra rims are ultra light.
Hi Misha. You are doing some great job and I really enjoy your content. It would be awesome if you could make a video with a rally car, especially a tarmac-focused rally car like 306 Maxi or some other F2 Kit Car. If there is such possibility, please make it happen. Thanks.
Amazing driving Misha, as always. I would love you to show us driving NSX, or something other super special from Japanese, like Toyota 2000GT!🤩 Thank you for what you do and especial for pedal camera, I love doing heal and toes!🙃
All cars you are thinking for your projet such EG/EF/EE/EK etc are top notch for a project, but DC2 is by far the best chassis among them. DC2 has some extra magic....
dc2 is a more expensive chassis to buy. i would go for an eg or ek coupe. you can fit all the neccessary and good parts from a dc2 (steering rack, brake booster, master cylinder, front anti roll bar) subframe and lower control arms from an eg and you practically have a dc2. then put a k series in that and youre going to have a blast im sure
Ee8 crx I think it’s the best body for the track, it is very light and off course it’s your choice for the engine,can’t wait to see the finished product 👍👍👍👍👍
EF/crx chassis is very high risk/analog, volatile handling, but fastest in the right hands. EG is the all arounder, light and handles like EF but is obv heavier and bigger. EK is the best of both. DC2 is not driven like a civic , but it handles more power nicely in its own way.
@mgcharoudin, Interesting fact which you're probably aware of by now is that the easier way to fit a K into a EK civic is to use the subframe from a 92 - 95 EG .... That DC5 Integra shares the same Subframe (And a few other suspension bits ) as the power steering equipped eg Civic ... so you've got a good platform to mount a K if you wanted to later anyways. Only difference is the Integra has an extra Brace that runs across the back of it
DC2, EG or even EK, i'd love to see any of those but whatever combo you go for, if youre planning to add power, supercharge :P That sound is just amazing. It'd be even more fun to see the v6 from the nsx with a supercharger but i dont know how easy that is
Absolutely love the old type r in every different model, especially as these cars have been around for year’s and back then a proper drivers car, but you watch the rpm gauge and think this is a missile and then you chech the speedometer and think 🤔 is it broken? Why’s it not going up! But it’s the handling and screaming vtec there all about, but when boosted, blower, or snail they really are weapons. Great video 👌
