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957: Fyre Festival- The Story Netflix did Not Tell with Marc Weinstein 

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In this episode, Sal, Adam, and Justin speak with Marc Weinstein, who was featured in Netflix's just released documentary Fyre. Marc goes into detail about what led him to work with the festival, why he stayed to the disastrous end and what he learned from the experience. This is a very interesting conversation with a behind the scene look at the music festival business, the power of social media and the damage that one charismatic sociopath can inflict.
What Marc does for a living, his background and how he connected with Mind Pump? (2:06) What are some of the most profitable music festivals and the challenges you would face starting one? (8:50) Did he know what he was getting into when he switched from finance to event production? (14:50) How he ‘fell’ into the music industry. (18:09) Why the events industry is always a mess and the need to just ‘figure it out’. (21:10) How did he meet Billy McFarland and the founders of the Fyre Festival? (23:45) How did he deal with the coordination and stress of trying to accommodate the festival guests? (38:40) What were the conversations like with the other members of the production team while this debacle was going on? (42:37) Was there a thought process to postpone? (45:27) How did he coordinate the festival guests off the island and when did he discover that Billy had committed wire fraud? (48:40) Was he afraid at any point the locals would get violent? (52:50) Who owns the footage from the documentary? Are we contributing to this sociopath? (53:48) How Fyre is just a microcosm of how social media portrays our lives. (58:55) What is the aftermath from this? (1:01:23) Does he find it cathartic to talk about it? Make amends with GoFundMe pages? How we could use social media for good. (1:03:40) How does he feel he has evolved from this? His take on the social media revolution. (1:09:00) Does he see an advantage of events like Burning Man unplugging from technology? (1:17:00) What practices does he implement to cope with social media addiction? (1:18:37) What is he currently pursuing? (1:20:57) Featured Guest/People Mentioned: Marc Weinstein (@warcmeinstein) Instagram Brett Kincaid (@bretthendersonkincaid) Instagram Ja Rule (@Ruleyork) Twitter Billy McFarland (entrepreneur) Tristan Harris (@tristanharris) Twitter Products Mentioned: January Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!! *Code “RED50” at checkout* FYRE: The Greatest Party That Never Happened | Netflix Official Site Lesson from the Fyre - Marc Weinstein - Medium Prime Social Group Live Nation Adds Governors Ball to Its Music Festival Lineup What Really Happened at the Sweetlife Music Festival TomorrowWorld: festival will have a bright future despite SFX bankruptcy XLIVE - Las Vegas The Matts Productions, LLC Insight Venture Partners: Venture Capital Firms NYC FYRE FRAUD Streaming Online | Hulu UNREAL-SYSTEMS Exuma Foundation for the locals impacted by Fyre Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked - Book by Adam Alter iGen: Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us - Book by Jean M. Twenge PhD BRICK Siempo

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@nihilismistheonlyway4680
@nihilismistheonlyway4680 5 лет назад
He gets to talking about Fyre right about 25:00 You're welcome 😎
@BraidsAndBonnets
@BraidsAndBonnets 5 лет назад
Bless your heart
@tamaracharese
@tamaracharese 5 лет назад
Thank you... he was just rambling
@nihilismistheonlyway4680
@nihilismistheonlyway4680 5 лет назад
MICHAEL CRASH no problem.
@fergusferguson5304
@fergusferguson5304 5 лет назад
Thank you 🙏
@eparpie272
@eparpie272 5 лет назад
Yeah thanks. At 1.50 and theres a motherfucker trying to sell me shit..... I was willing to listen, but you done fucked it up.
@sunniavonrep3148
@sunniavonrep3148 3 года назад
The cheese sandwich memes aside, the lady who managed to feed all those people even that out of her pocket was the mvp
@Nazylexx
@Nazylexx 3 года назад
Didn't someone later raised money for them?
@raefarnsworth4278
@raefarnsworth4278 Год назад
@@Nazylexx No, but they should.
@violetbrown8998
@violetbrown8998 5 лет назад
Aside from RU-vid, I am completely disconnected from social media. It's not easy, but it gets easier over time. Do it. Life is beautiful.
@tediousbrief5944
@tediousbrief5944 5 лет назад
@@bethart1985 -Spends 16 hours on RU-vid a day.
@XOXO___3
@XOXO___3 5 лет назад
RU-vid an twitter. Instagram if you have a business
@tavoiaiono7885
@tavoiaiono7885 5 лет назад
Yeah me too. Over 12 months now. At least utube you're not bombarded with shit.
@tavoiaiono7885
@tavoiaiono7885 5 лет назад
@@tediousbrief5944 yeah are watching and educating yourself or just stupid shit? I use utube for documentaries and sometimes sport highlights. But that your thing non of my business.
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 5 лет назад
Its like any other bad habit/addiction. Like cyan pepper said,its not easy to quit. Especially if you really make them a part of your life, it a difficult thing to stop.
@1sTEfFaniE1
@1sTEfFaniE1 5 лет назад
If they had just put half as much effort into planning the actual festival as they did into planning their social media campaign it could have been a success.
@Claytondupuis
@Claytondupuis 5 лет назад
No matter what they did, the festival would have been a failure on their 6 month timeline. One would need to burn Richard Branson level money to have built the infrastructure necessary under such an impossible deadline, and the concept of breaking even would have still been absoloutley laughable.
@1sTEfFaniE1
@1sTEfFaniE1 5 лет назад
@@Claytondupuis well putting effort into planning the thing would have included having a realistic timeline and budget to work with.
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 5 лет назад
@@Claytondupuis I don't know, six months is still quite a generous amount of time had they gotten on it immediately. When told by one of the employees that they should start immediately they dismissed him. They really didn't get into high gear until about a month-and-a-half out. That's when they started stressing out and had problems with catering and everything else. Had they actually started six months out building bars and stages and everything else they could have at least had something decent to show. It might not have been to the highest standard but it would have been something acceptable
@oisinquinn9469
@oisinquinn9469 5 лет назад
@@1sTEfFaniE1 with a realistic budget it would never happen
@jjfiend
@jjfiend 5 лет назад
77Avadon77 that, annnd they were getting drunk ALLLLL the time 🤦🏽‍♂️
@75aces97
@75aces97 4 года назад
23:22 Andy in Netflix doc mentions what a mess the original Woodstock was but there was one major difference between that and failures like Fyre. Woodstock organizers were also amateurs, but the one thing they had to get right was the music, and they delivered. The bands they promised all performed. People can forget certain discomfort if they get the experience they come for.
@danieledwards3376
@danieledwards3376 3 года назад
Fyre wasn't really sold on the music, though, it was sold on luxury, glamour and Instagram "celebrities".
@75aces97
@75aces97 3 года назад
@@danieledwards3376 I know, but I meant that Woodstock didn't do everything right, but did deliver the one thing that people came for. Fyre advertised many things, but delivered none of them.
@zamir4618
@zamir4618 3 года назад
@@75aces97 they got cheese sandwiches tho
@75aces97
@75aces97 3 года назад
@@zamir4618 True. Nothing like a good cheese sammich.
@richardburchett
@richardburchett 3 года назад
What the Woodstock audience came to experience vs. what the Fyre audience was looking to experience says a lot about modern society
@beejaysphotos
@beejaysphotos 5 лет назад
Where is jah we need to make sense of all this #davechapelle
@romancastro_
@romancastro_ 5 лет назад
Willard Haywood after watching the documentary , I have the same question..,
@ohboi718
@ohboi718 5 лет назад
Yeah we need to hear Jeffrey's side of this 🤔 I wanna know what 50 had to say about this 😂😂😂😂
@depone6334
@depone6334 5 лет назад
all these years i been trying to figure out where Jah is and what he has to say about all this
@OWOT-re5jf
@OWOT-re5jf 5 лет назад
The douche bag tried to say that it wasn't fraud; just false advertising. He needs to go to prison. Such a jerk.
@ohboi718
@ohboi718 5 лет назад
@@OWOT-re5jf I agree .... He is a POS
@MandiCurls
@MandiCurls 5 лет назад
“At least they will be seeing your smiling face doing yoga poises” 😐
@Bm23CC
@Bm23CC 5 лет назад
shocking .
@EssentialOilStories
@EssentialOilStories 5 лет назад
Yeah, that must have been quite a moment for him. Like wow.
@akristen4971
@akristen4971 5 лет назад
Right...
@Umdringside
@Umdringside 5 лет назад
At least Billy has time to do yoga in prison 😂
@natashaalexander4651
@natashaalexander4651 5 лет назад
It would be amazing if someone could pick up the Fyre Festival idea, scale the concept down to reality, and actually create something magical. I would definitely go
@ohboi718
@ohboi718 5 лет назад
Facts .... Its was a great concept but was poorly executed
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 5 лет назад
They have it it's called Burning Man
@natashaalexander4651
@natashaalexander4651 5 лет назад
@@77Avadon77 Burning Man is NOTHING like what Fyre Fest would have been. Burning man is the middle of the desert and it is NOT a music festival. I'm a burner 2014, 2016 and hopefully 2019.
@BlackGypsyCharm
@BlackGypsyCharm 5 лет назад
Fyre festival 2.0 coming up soon courtesy of jarule
@thomasmills339
@thomasmills339 5 лет назад
No. All the bands suck. Plus it's been done. Lollapalooza and they ruined that.
@Rideordiealmelo
@Rideordiealmelo 5 лет назад
LMAO as long as we live in a world were people get paid 250k for a single tweet, nothing will change.
@vancekangyishu
@vancekangyishu 5 лет назад
RideorDie Almelo why doesn’t she use the 250000 to the poor workers? Fking bitch
@ohboi718
@ohboi718 5 лет назад
Facts 😂
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 5 лет назад
I know right why didn't Kendall Jenner donate that money to the victims instead of keeping it. What a sadistic selfish bitch
@Trid3nt861
@Trid3nt861 4 года назад
@@77Avadon77 kendal would just get cans of Pepsi and hand them out to everyone and believe that would fix things.
@camillatruquesdebeleza7086
@camillatruquesdebeleza7086 3 года назад
Can you imagine making all this money to do something that takes only a few minutes? That’s insane
@k.stacey7389
@k.stacey7389 5 лет назад
I work for one of the top concert/festival companies he mentioned. We were laughing our asses off at the first Fyre promo video alone. It was never going to happen and was an obvious “dumpster fyre” from day one. Absolute delusional ridiculousness.
@hildajensen6263
@hildajensen6263 4 года назад
I'm just a person with life experience, and even I could tell it was bullshit. There's no such thing as a luxury festival for thousands of people. It simply can't be done.
@MissOrchid12
@MissOrchid12 4 года назад
And who with that promo vid - who was their target demographic anyway (apart from people who had money to burn)?? Wasn't clear who they were targeting. It looked like a turn out of college kids who eventually came, not elite 'a' lister types.
@weltonvillegal6258
@weltonvillegal6258 4 года назад
Hilda Jensen - If they had planned and worked it for 18 months instead of 8 weeks, it could have worked. And if there were legit people running it.........
@Trid3nt861
@Trid3nt861 4 года назад
@@MissOrchid12 i think Mcfarlane and Ja Rule were targeting guilable millenials who wanted to live the fantasy rich lifestyle and get the chicks, same with the women who thought they would get the hot guys....... the end result was a borderline FEMA camp scam with "GOURMET" government public school bread and white cheese sandwiches with a garnish of basic lettuce, 3 tomatoes and some cheap dressing all in small white foam container.
@cuixinshi
@cuixinshi Год назад
The moment that you realized they are setting up a festival in 5 months. That’s impossible. There are too many factors that play into the festival.
@LukeChristopherPhoto
@LukeChristopherPhoto 5 лет назад
I've worked in this industry down in Miami, it was hard enough in a city, I can't imagine trying to pull something like that off in a remote location in such a short time. But Marc is right, there are some great people to work with who can pull off miracles, and there is a sense of pride and duty to pull off the event. Luckily I've never had to deal with anyone like BF.
@cosmik7147
@cosmik7147 5 лет назад
I've been seeing a lot of people debate on which documentary they should watch. The one on Netflix or the one on Hulu, I personally enjoyed the one on Hulu a little bit more, but in my opinion is best to watch both. The perspectives in each film are totally different
@debbiep99
@debbiep99 5 лет назад
The one on Hulu paid the scam artist. No thanks
@cosmik7147
@cosmik7147 5 лет назад
@@debbiep99 then don't watch it. Wtf do I care
@ernestolefebre9048
@ernestolefebre9048 5 лет назад
@@debbiep99 The one on Netflix paid the media company in charge of marketing the festival lol
@debbie2042
@debbie2042 5 лет назад
Only one has Andy King saying he was prepared to suck a dick to release water for the festival. Thats the Netflix one.
@LadyLawyerG
@LadyLawyerG 5 лет назад
Watch both. Hulu then Netflix..different perspectives
@heavenleigh2463
@heavenleigh2463 3 года назад
Marc seems to be a true professional and man of integrity.
@eswag153
@eswag153 4 года назад
This dude is a fantastic storyteller
@jasontoi8628
@jasontoi8628 2 года назад
Marc Weinstein is actually a smart and loyal person. Good to hear his perspective.
@tristanbaravraham6349
@tristanbaravraham6349 3 года назад
Yes, the Netflix documentary led me here. Very glad to be here, fascinating commentary and pretty good comments to boot. It does make you wonder how a fool and their money get together in the first place. Maybe a dad who was ruthless in real estate maybe? Oh, well. It's good to know 90% of the US Navy is still S.E.A.L.s. makes me sleep easier. I really do have to say what huge huevos to stay and work on the wreckage. That really is very impressive and shows enormous character.
@jcrisp90
@jcrisp90 3 года назад
I really like this guy, he seems articulate, honest with humility
@acbc3543
@acbc3543 3 года назад
I think there’s a sense of PTSD over these people about Fyre ! They’ve never gotten over it since they show each and every detail .
@AzeraV
@AzeraV 3 года назад
Came for the festival talk but the internet addiction points definitely hit me.
@GaellynGarb
@GaellynGarb 5 лет назад
Really great interview. Enlightening on so many level, not only about that Fyre disaster.
@seanmoloney7797
@seanmoloney7797 2 года назад
This guy’s a boss. He was the only one in the whole affair that seemed legit and was doing his job when everybody around him stopped.
@bigtakeshi
@bigtakeshi 5 лет назад
You should've talked about the meeting near the end where Ja Rule says 'that's not fraud, that' false advertising." It seems Ja Rule apparently KNEW they were lying and let them do it.
@AlbertLara
@AlbertLara 5 лет назад
bigtakeshi Yes! Exactly! To me, That was actually the most memorable clip of the documentary.
@nihilismistheonlyway4680
@nihilismistheonlyway4680 5 лет назад
I bet legally they're not really supposed to mention him and his part in all this.
@AlbertLara
@AlbertLara 5 лет назад
LosAngeles FlyerClub Ja Rule is scratching and clawing to stay relevant. Too bad he can’t realize that the end of his career was when he started “singing” ghetto love songs with Ashanti in the early early 2000s.
@rosieposie5241
@rosieposie5241 5 лет назад
He mentions it pretty much summed up what he thought about it
@cjspyker
@cjspyker 5 лет назад
he wasn't in that meeting I believe
@annadaae26
@annadaae26 5 лет назад
Hmm... they charged $6 to get into Woodstock, promised and sold no lodging and didn't even promise more than live music, which actually showed up.
@arsenioibay414
@arsenioibay414 5 лет назад
Fyre didn't last long enough, and I bet the boys at Fyre had more pressing things on their mind (food, water, shelter) than getting their wicks slick
@aro5490
@aro5490 5 лет назад
that wasn't at the original Woodstock festival. They were talking about the original 60's Woodstock
@tweeztweet287
@tweeztweet287 5 лет назад
Well that show was a disaster for many other reasons but i feel you and would say times were different back then, ppl are waaay more entitled now and that means pampering is a must at the these big events for ppl w money
@YungM.D.
@YungM.D. 5 лет назад
tweez tweet Totally agree. Just a different era, different values, even the social media effect; social media would’ve killed Woodstock but at the time the overall message of the festival was what was covered. I don’t think we’ll ever get an event like that again.
@seanconroy3567
@seanconroy3567 5 лет назад
One is in NY the other is in a foreign country and on an island...
@cspeidel331
@cspeidel331 5 лет назад
I have a thesis that Ja Rule threatened Billy to take the fall for the festival. Ja was proud to be promoting the festival in the build up, but when shit hit the fan he seemed to just be able to distance himself from it all with little to no repercussions. I really think he privately told Billy to take the fall or something bad would happen to him because in the Hulu doc Billy gets asked where Ja Rule was during this, and Billy very lightly talks about "private conversations" they had to keep it going. This is a thesis but it would make sense to me
@Mademoiselleantoine
@Mademoiselleantoine 5 лет назад
That's an outstanding thesis. I feel like Ja Rule should take the blame for the festival mess. He's also participating in the chaos. Honestly, He should count his blessing for not going to prison.
@grainofsalt4934
@grainofsalt4934 3 года назад
Ja Rule is a coward
@yashsinghal1023
@yashsinghal1023 3 года назад
Great interview , Marc.. I was skeptical but in the end I kind of understand how might he have struggled through ..plus staying long after the fest is over to coordinate supplies shows his integrity
@sxerosie
@sxerosie 5 лет назад
This was an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing!
@shaykendall8742
@shaykendall8742 3 года назад
"I don't know what happened to that Fyre Merch, I think people are wearing it all over the Bahamas" I'm from here. I can confirm hundreds of teenagers and University of the Bahamas students have them. 🤣
@yashsinghal1023
@yashsinghal1023 3 года назад
😆
@mario10zeus
@mario10zeus 2 года назад
Don't throw them away, they might be expensive souvenirs or collectors items someday.
@mariaearaya8934
@mariaearaya8934 5 лет назад
I went to both 90s festivals. The first one was so much better. I wish you would do it again!!!
@s0fa274
@s0fa274 5 лет назад
Really insightful interview, this guy is really well spoken.
@gordo4300
@gordo4300 5 лет назад
I like how he knew it was going to be a scam/disaster but decided to stick with it until the very end and now gets to act like a martyr.
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 5 лет назад
I think he got caught up in it and was trying to bail water even as it was sinking. While on the other hand a lot of other people distanced themselves early.
@littleseamstress
@littleseamstress 5 лет назад
exactly what i was thinking. he acts like hes above it and better than it but he jumped on the organizing team for housing up until the day it came
@kelsey4087
@kelsey4087 5 лет назад
Agreed! I feel like a bunch of people involved with Fyre are placing too much blame on "social media". Our fixation with it probably isn't very healthy, but social media is not fundamentally evil in and of itself. A whole team of people used social media to mislead a bunch of people into spending their money on a festival that they couldn't deliver. That was wrong!
@yashsinghal1023
@yashsinghal1023 3 года назад
See i don't know much about the others but I really think Marc was sincere like I could understand why he could have stayed back then , plus remember he was in the production only one month back and was told to allot that no of people , I really don't think he has much of a choice , for him it sounds like a good opportunity and only to allot a certain no of bed especially when he didn't see the camp at least....
@victortrejo7443
@victortrejo7443 5 лет назад
Thanks for posting. The additional insight gave an even further background into how this mess happened.
@Smc954
@Smc954 5 лет назад
Thats awesome that the people on the island is getting paid back through a go fund me but i dont think its right at all that the people responsible isnt paying up and everyone else is fixing his wrong. A lot of people ask why didnt ja step up and pay some back the same can be said about the promo models that made way more than what that women at the restaurant lost could of pitched in and helped out but they arent and week to week paycheck people are..
@Smc954
@Smc954 5 лет назад
manic hispanic it was one lady that started it but a lot of these people that were involved with the festival were promoting that particular page and they ended up raising the money for the lady whose restaurant it was shes a great lady and gave the extra money do some of the people that work on the site
5 лет назад
That poor woman who busted her ass and used her own money I truly felt for bc you can see her heart was so involved in her craft..I said man I hope she comes back into two times the money that was STOLEN from her..and recently hearing that she did made me believe there was some hope left in people. She was willing to lose it all just to keep her integrity at the highest possible level..I ever visit the island soon I would like to stop by her restaurant I heard nothing but positives about it
@quatermass8
@quatermass8 5 лет назад
Wonder what the prick Billy is doing how.
@FlyPsiche
@FlyPsiche 5 лет назад
Quatermass hopefully is giving some booty
@kelsey4087
@kelsey4087 5 лет назад
@@quatermass8 He is in prison for the next 6 years for wire fraud
@cbrogan100
@cbrogan100 3 года назад
I live under a rock but this was a really nice interview with some down to earth people. What stuck out is when Marc said why was he in the doco so much when he was involved for a month. He just has this voice of reason I think and just naturally is a great person to have speaking to us about something like this.
@hanzzyolo8240
@hanzzyolo8240 5 лет назад
Best pod cast I've heard in awhile
@StookyBill
@StookyBill 3 года назад
i love that time stamped the questions, thank you!
@maiyamerrick3323
@maiyamerrick3323 2 года назад
As an event coordinator, this is so refreshing to hear!
@zachtrapper2398
@zachtrapper2398 3 года назад
Good talk. They picked the right guy for this interview.
@TheJaybrone
@TheJaybrone 5 лет назад
If they had just waited till Fyre was actually a working web program they could have had both the time and the capital to do this.
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 5 лет назад
Or why not just throw small parties in clubs to gain attention for the app. Something like that is definitely much easier to do and do repeatedly successfully. Why choose the hardest type of Festival in the most remote place possible for your first unveiling. Totally stupid. The worst thing is that he's not even a good con artist
@jjfiend
@jjfiend 5 лет назад
TheJaybrone they rushed all of the wrong things and started waaay too late
@9melissal
@9melissal 4 года назад
Because he was already millions in debt from ticket scams for his credit card app and he needed the profits and notoriety from the festival to pay it back and fund and propel the Fyre website.
@eugeniageneva
@eugeniageneva 5 лет назад
My dad was a tour manager for Hank Jr., Lynyard Synyard, Willie, Tritt, Patti Loveless, Jodee Massina, Charlie Daniels, Gov’t Mule... and hundred of others. I use to tour with Hank Jr. (tag along with dad on the band bus for weeks through my summer break from school).... and Mark is correct... 100%%%%%%%%% concert/music traveling circus 🎪, is absolutely nonstop fucking fire 🔥 squashing. Everything goes wrong from production truck broke down and is not here with all the cords, that literally, hook up everything... to... fucking band members hung over and or already shit faced for the night... wives destroy the hotel room after a fight with drunk guitarist husband.... promoter didn’t hire the right amount of of security for 50,000 people heading in, in about 5 hours....on and on and on... lmao
@keithymg
@keithymg 5 лет назад
Great Interview, he was the only one I kind of liked other than the Bahamians. After this, I really like him.
@ki2the2nd
@ki2the2nd 5 лет назад
Cool interview. Funny to find out Marc has a similar background as me (corporate banking) before going into events production.
@michaelblair1582
@michaelblair1582 5 лет назад
Fascinating discussion. Marc should go on Joe Rogan as well. Would be a fantastic podcast.
@thomasmills339
@thomasmills339 5 лет назад
Rogan is an idiot.
@brandonlee93
@brandonlee93 9 месяцев назад
Excellent interview. I used to throw raves back in the day and I can relate, albeit not on the scale Fyre was on…thankfully. I never made a dime, usually broke even. I did it for the love of the scene and the music and to try to give people a good time. Had a so called friend at the time who would take credit for those events behind my back while simultaneously never lifting a finger to do the dirty work. One of the parties went south and wouldn’t you know it. That so called friend flipped a 180 and said it wasn’t his party after telling everyone it was. There’s conmen left and right in the entertainment industry, no matter the size.
@JACKINBENCAP
@JACKINBENCAP 5 лет назад
What happened to the bucket of keys?
@begonafernandez4
@begonafernandez4 5 лет назад
This guy knows what he is talking about, he continued working with them because deep inside him he wanted to believe he was working with professionals! Please, follow your intuition not your hopes!!
@fnk101
@fnk101 5 лет назад
Great interview learnt some stuff
@tminusnyc2915
@tminusnyc2915 2 года назад
This was a great podcast. Marc seems like a stand up guy.
@TheMidasTouch11
@TheMidasTouch11 5 лет назад
Great interview!
@tinystarProductions
@tinystarProductions 5 лет назад
Fantastic episode!!
@Ezinma88
@Ezinma88 5 лет назад
Great interview.
@ncthriller4465
@ncthriller4465 5 лет назад
i dont see how the app was viable in the first place....im curious as to when they intended on actually turning a profit. festival or no festival. hanging out with jarule isnt a business model. aside from investor capital, how much did they actually make? while watching the netflix doc. it seemed like a bunch of kids playing big board member with other peoples money.
@SwitcherooU
@SwitcherooU 5 лет назад
None of the numbers ever added up, EVER, in any of Billy's ventures. Tickets for Fyre were $500-12,000, and they sold 6,000 of them. Even if all those people spent $5,000 on their tickets and each put another $5,000 on that fucking bracelet (what a fucking scam THAT was), that's nowhere near enough money to be paying $6m for sushi and Indian cuisine, let alone for booking and building villas. Why did so many people dump money into this?
@muchograndeyolatengo
@muchograndeyolatengo 5 лет назад
Yeah. I don't get all of these business people calling (and still calling) the app genius. How do you scale an app like that? The market must be extremely small and even if it isn't there must be a limit of c-celebrities willing to prostitute themselves and only one place they can be at any time.
@pktheviking
@pktheviking 3 года назад
Good all around interview.
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 5 лет назад
If they bring back CD walkmans, I can do without my phone for a day. I need my music😊
@jonhelmer8591
@jonhelmer8591 5 лет назад
Get a walkman radio, it also means you'll step out of your comfort zone and listen to someone else's playlist
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 5 лет назад
@@jonhelmer8591 sounds doable. I love all types of music
@nakmuay7705
@nakmuay7705 5 лет назад
just found mine! hooray xmas '97!
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 5 лет назад
@@nakmuay7705 😊😊😊
@kadeen876
@kadeen876 3 года назад
This kinda helped to bring some of the missing pieces together
@lisamoses5821
@lisamoses5821 5 лет назад
Very informative
@24chataway
@24chataway 5 лет назад
REEEALLY rate Marc. Totally Genuine Totally Honest TOTALLY HUMBLE!
@stormrhode2330
@stormrhode2330 11 месяцев назад
This poor dude even sounded exhausted. Haha I remember learning about this event a while back when my brother played me the Internet Historian video explaining it. Wild stuff. Also, I keep my phone in the other room when I sleep. The challenge is convincing anyone else to do the same. 😮‍💨
@tuduff
@tuduff 4 года назад
Is only me or someone else is thinking how to make this event happen in a different way? Someone please make the fyre festival game
@remuslovegood6666
@remuslovegood6666 5 лет назад
I enjoyed listening
@77Avadon77
@77Avadon77 5 лет назад
Normally I do not attribute malice where only ignorance is suspected. However after watching this I feel confirmed that Billy was trying to do the minimum that he could to appear as if he tried to pull the festival off even though this was just a total fraudulent scam with no intention of ever living up to the expectation of what was promised.
@SarelleSirius
@SarelleSirius 2 года назад
This is a huge possibility. At first I thought he wouldn’t have flown a bunch of people out there if it was a scam because at that point he wasn’t getting more money from them. However, he could have flown everyone out specially to be able to argue that it wasn’t a scam.
@doroparker1702
@doroparker1702 2 года назад
Everyone who booked a ticket did not think it over. A music festival is crowded. Think of a Billie Eilish concert. Luxury? Lonesome beach? Hahaha, not possible. There is no privacy and there is no lonely space. So it can only be either or the other.
@LadyLawyerG
@LadyLawyerG 5 лет назад
Interesting how folks who caused or participated in the disastrous event wanted to continue to profit off of it . Im.glad too hear a few folks stepping up to give back or repay $$$$ to workers/contractors. But the name dropping 🤔🤔🤨
@Nerevar5me
@Nerevar5me 2 года назад
I’ve seen so many articles written about the insidious and manipulative nature of social media like Marc talks about at 1:10:50.
@kadeen876
@kadeen876 3 года назад
Hmmm I thought Mary-Ann said her friend set up the GoFundMe and then tried to get her to sign a contract to give her half or nothing. Mary-Ann said she contacted GoFundMe and told them to send the donations back and they worked with her to get her the funds and that’s how she was able to recoup and pay some of the labourers. Marc’s account of this is quite questionable
@kushtrimskenderi8381
@kushtrimskenderi8381 5 лет назад
smh I just notice you have a visual version of this after I finished listening
@heidiheaux7007
@heidiheaux7007 3 года назад
I’m halfway through, where is that?
@ion1992
@ion1992 3 года назад
Day 1 Woodstock ,1969 Friday, August 15 to Saturday, August 16 Richie Havens Swami Satchidananda Sweetwater Bert Sommer Tim Hardin Ravi Shankar Melanie Arlo Guthrie Joan Baez Day 2 Woodstock 1969 Saturday, August 16 to Sunday, August 17 Quill Country Joe McDonald Santana John Sebastian Keef Hartley Band The Incredible String Band Canned Heat Mountain Grateful Dead Creedence Clearwater Revival Janis Joplin and the Kozmic Blues Band Sly & the Family Stone The Who Jefferson Airplane Day 3 Woodstock 1969 Sunday, August 17 to Monday, August 18 Joe Cocker and the Grease Band Country Joe and the Fish Ten Years After The Band Johnny Winter Blood, Sweat & Tears Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Paul Butterfield Blues Band Sha Na Na Jimi Hendrix You seriously have to reconsider your thoughts before even bringing Woodstock Fest into this. Its like comparing Woodstock musicians to Fyre Festival Musicians
@Lalop0p
@Lalop0p 5 лет назад
Link to GoFundMe pages???
@mario10zeus
@mario10zeus 2 года назад
Marc makes good point and a lot of things now makes sense, I was skeptical initially. Now if I were him, I would've left as soon as I see how sketchy Billy was acting as the fallout could affect his career too.
@JoyLearnSallay
@JoyLearnSallay 9 месяцев назад
Even still, you CAN give Billy that much credit...for sociopathy, absolutely. He would rather scorch earth it, than take a personal hit. So who do you want to be here at the end? Not those folks! Thanks for this, and good luck further to you Weinstein, et al....
@biancadesousa
@biancadesousa 3 года назад
i don’t feel bad for anyone except the workers at the island.
@AnhNguyen-fj5yp
@AnhNguyen-fj5yp 5 лет назад
20:40 did he talked about Music Midtown ?
@Trid3nt861
@Trid3nt861 4 года назад
I could see this event falling flat on its face once I saw the ad... Ja Rule and Billy Mcfarlane should be in jail for this
@pamelalansbury94
@pamelalansbury94 4 года назад
Billy is, somehow Ja Rule isn’t.
@JacklynCunningham
@JacklynCunningham 5 лет назад
honestly, what would be my life without technology? I wake up, study on my laptop for an hour WHILE listening to podcasts, ( because our generation always has to be doing multiple things at once). then I go to class, where I'm on my laptop again,, then I come home, probably watch a few youtube videos while I relax and eat, then spend the rest of my day again on my laptop writing reports and studying for school. Probably when I'm finished I'd use technology less
@heidiheaux7007
@heidiheaux7007 3 года назад
I’d love to know your GPA, “studying” like that. Listening to music is one thing, but listening to a podcast requires focus, which means you can’t fully focus on your books/notes.
@yzwme586
@yzwme586 5 лет назад
just from a logistics stand point how did anyone not see this train wreck coming? how are you going to fly out 10000 people via PRIVATE PLANE to a small island in the bahamas? I saw this coming a mile away
@woodyhorton8537
@woodyhorton8537 2 года назад
Fly them to a bigger island then onto a fleet of boats maybe lol
@thomasmills339
@thomasmills339 5 лет назад
The equipment was " compounded " fucking genius.
@That1Guy
@That1Guy 5 лет назад
"its a great concept"
@bhusar1
@bhusar1 5 лет назад
Um no, No comparison to Woodstock. First, Woodstock wasn’t sold as a luxury event. Only 2 people died at Woodstock, one was run over by a tractor that the person was sleeping under and the farmer didn’t know, another was a drug overdose. They also had music planned. They had acts lined up all set to play, Fyre didn’t. The organizers also made consideration for the safety of the people like providing food and getting with the Hog Farm members to set up a bad trips tent for people having bad acid trips and also having them provide food with brown rice and granola when the concessions ran out.
@TheBloodyMaryBro
@TheBloodyMaryBro 5 лет назад
We need pod sponsorship
@grainofsalt4934
@grainofsalt4934 3 года назад
Isn’t it strange how similar Billy looks like Seth McFarland
@yudivazquez1296
@yudivazquez1296 5 лет назад
Marc is fine.
@shadygrove91204
@shadygrove91204 5 лет назад
Fact-check : At 20 minutes, he's talking about Tomorrowworld 2015 and he understates the attendance at ~30,000. The attendance was WAY more at actually ~190,000 with 40,000 of those staying in on-site camping. The size of the crowd was a big factor into why SFX's stocks tanked to $0.01, and finally bankrupt. I'm about to listen to the rest of this and no doubt will find more that this kid doesn't really know what he's talking about.
@FlyPsiche
@FlyPsiche 5 лет назад
Of course he doesn't, you must be pretty stupid to remain on the boat if a week before the luxury event there where no toilets, tents and stages. He been hustling to find houses around the village until the last minute. BUT he's still funny to hear the shamble unfolding
@elizabethfricker2247
@elizabethfricker2247 5 лет назад
They say 190k but they don't say that it's 190k UNIQUE attendees. I always wonder how many individual people went as opposed to counting the 40k campers as 120k for going all three days. But yeah, it was still a shitshow the last year with all the mud. I went all three years and it was one of the best festivals ever. I wish it would come back but I understand why that's not really possible. I have heard from several people in the industry that a lot of pieces for the stages are still in storage here in GA.
@commanderrussels2612
@commanderrussels2612 5 лет назад
Wow Mind Pump Radio is really good at not asking the tough questions. What a bunch of wimps. "Oohhh yeah, I can totally see how that happens now that you explain to me that you were just at your computer on the island" lol
@mountainman6172
@mountainman6172 5 лет назад
Only scratch the surface. LOOL
@danieldixon7660
@danieldixon7660 4 года назад
WHERE'S JAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!🤣🤣
@richieadams6701
@richieadams6701 5 лет назад
Everyone complaining about the first 25 minutes NOT being what the title says are probably the same people that actually went to the fucking fyre festival!
@olguiq1013
@olguiq1013 3 года назад
Honestly... I WOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY!!
@MrPagnito
@MrPagnito 5 лет назад
You guys should really change that intro...
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 5 лет назад
That social media book tho.
@ckotcher1
@ckotcher1 3 года назад
What a beautiful man
@79narz
@79narz 5 лет назад
This is a coup, a Rogen caliber guest (based on current affairs) on mind pump.
@antoniovalencia9041
@antoniovalencia9041 5 лет назад
Honest man!!!
@gustavopiconi4856
@gustavopiconi4856 Год назад
His english sounds so good. I mean, even if you are native you can hear how perfect he puts out the words. I would hire him to market anything just by the way he sounds.
@nicholasflanders9814
@nicholasflanders9814 2 года назад
Guarantee you if you would've asked Billy, pre Fyre Festival, his favorite movie, he would've said WOLF OF WALL STREET
@MyKombucha
@MyKombucha 3 года назад
44:50 and 47:10 Founder + 5 core Fyre Festival organizers. The douche bags behind the project. 48:45 all but one (who was hyperventilating into a paperbag... (Note: I'm dying, lol) gone by the time the festival starts.
@asmrcity3147
@asmrcity3147 5 лет назад
Geez he’s hot
@MaleTears
@MaleTears 5 лет назад
D I TT O
@reabetsweimanmoabi7911
@reabetsweimanmoabi7911 5 лет назад
Absolutely 😍
@farhan022692
@farhan022692 3 года назад
Pervert
@jamespeterson8482
@jamespeterson8482 2 года назад
Loved the podcast but “being in bit coin” is like saying “I’m in federal reserve notes.” What’s does that mean? It means that your working for a venture capital firm that is “long” on bitcoin.
@irvincooks1
@irvincooks1 5 лет назад
This comments section is juvenile. No insightful comments for pages.
@craigcollinsjr
@craigcollinsjr 5 лет назад
Yours most notably.
@RHCPndRATM
@RHCPndRATM 5 лет назад
Welcome to RU-vid
@vinylhorror
@vinylhorror 5 лет назад
Isn’t that every comment section?
@clonesharpshooter101
@clonesharpshooter101 5 лет назад
You must be new here.
@LouKessler
@LouKessler 5 лет назад
This didn't really add anything new to the documentaries, except that Marc doesn't think Billy is a genius.
@brandysigmon9066
@brandysigmon9066 5 лет назад
Event producers work so so hard and don't get recognition or paid very much. I bet they make a pretty good wage. Millions of amazing people work extremely hard without any recognition , smh. All these assholes should be in jail. Every single one of them says after a while they knew they were lying about what was going on, all of them are responsible for this catastrophe
@Juniper122
@Juniper122 5 лет назад
MARC IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE
@widescreennavel
@widescreennavel 3 года назад
All of life is just a way to get people to buy liquor. A restaurant sells liquor, not food, for profit.
@Platypus2012
@Platypus2012 3 года назад
One person died at Woodstock from a tractor accident during setup.
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