Legendary motherboard for only 120e in Europe. 💪 Fastest boot of all AM5 boards, excellent ram overclocking potential, vrm enough to overclock any ryzen, Even some records with LN2 and 7950X were broken on it
Hey BZ, quite an interesting YT video you uploaded! Kinda seems like it had more unanswered dilemas than downright positive answers. Hopefully you can get to the bottom of it and solve this puzzle!🎉😅😊
This board has a option to change the wait time on post. I believe its on Boot. The default time is 1s with is most likely why it boots so fast. Changing it to 2~3s should make it easier to hit the BIOS. 42:30 I believe I saw the tie VDDIO voltage setting hidden on one of the many options in the advanced section. There is a bunch of settings there that aren't available where they would normally be.
Thanks for the video! 🤩 Couple of thoughts: tRC = tRP + tRAS seems to be the rule for almost all EXPO/XMP profiles from the major manufacturers as well. Right now, I'm testing Kingston 4x 48GB sticks (2x KF560C32RSK2-96) in 96GB & 192 GB configurations and noticed that they can easily do tRFC1 timings that translate into 183ns to 187ns stable at various speeds from 5600MT/s to 6200MT/s on my Gigabyte boards. My G.Skill 96GB kit (F5-6400J3239F48GX2-RS5K) is a bit more picky and prefers a time around 190ns. The hard limit seems to be a bit below 180ns for both kits. I'm surprised that tFAW, tRRD_L & tRRD_S have to be so loose for your 96GB kit, both my M-die kits do the same tight timings you used in your previous single rank M-die/A-die videos (20/8/4). Even my 128GB A-die config runs these tight timings stable.
@@angelg3986 Sadly no, the 6200 MT/s referred to a 96GB config. At the moment, I'm testing various permutations of 96GB and 192GB with new memory kits in both of my two main systems. The 7950X3D only does 5600 MT/s quad-rank, my 7950X does 6000MT/s with 192GB so far. Not sure if I can push it further though, since those Kingston sticks have very thick heatspreders that actually obstruct airflow in 2DPC configs.
BZ, would be interesting to see the SOC behavior on MB’s from MSI, ASUS as well. Wonder if they do something similar.. I doubt it, this seems to be a glitch or something.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I copied all the subtimings from your setup into my Asrock X670E Steel legend except for primaries and a few other timings are different because I didn't drop the frequency to 6200, still running at 6400. Also I did not play with the memory voltage, running at 1.35v, and soc 1.25v, and not sure if that's relevant but, vcore at 1.28. The different timings are; TCL 32, tRCDWR 38, tRCDRD 38, TRP 38, TRAS 36, TRC 64, tRFC 600, tRFC2 500, tRFCsb 600 and TREFI 50k, I have the same setup except my cpu is ryzen 7600 @5.45ghz all core. FCLK 2067 and running at 1T, not gear down mode. Runs memtest overnight without error. Runs y cruncher 2h, passes linpack 2h and also runs time spy extreme, I have a 4070 pulling around 190 watts during the test. I disabled the gpu undervolt in order to cause the max heat on the memory sticks, but I have a nice case blowing direct air into the cpu cooler from the front panel and the cooler is Noctua d15 so the ram runs cool enough, max temp I've seen was 68C. Do you think I can do anymore improvements to this setup to leave another overnight stability test? And do you think it's running stable because 7600 is single ccd and it doesn't use the infinity fabric and it doesn't have enough power to saturate the entire memory bandwidth? And last edit I guess, my bios version is 2.02 which isn't the latest version.
, can you do overclocking on the absolute cheapest ddr5, which is crucial 8gb 4800mhz? it was only $15 on sale in my country edit: didn't realize you already did one 2 years ago, thanks! . the only difference isthat on my B650m PG riptide, the ram won't train if I set vdd more than 1.25v.
Concerning your 5700x3d, simple question : to simulate a 5600x3d you could deactivate 2 cores and use BCLK use the thermal overhead to increase clocks, close the gap would that make the 5700x3d a less useless choice ?
the boost algorithm will work against you at BCLKs higher than 104. And if you disable boost you need a motherboard that can do more than 118MHz BCLK. Which means an X470/X370 board.
Thank you for this,,,i have quick question,,,which would you suggest to choose to pair with 7800X3d, motherboard this one, Livemixer,,,or?? Please, need your advice on this,,,no OC, just pure gaming mostly CS2
EDIT: Nevermind: Currently only 37 mins in, so may suss this later, but strikes me that the BIOS is setting >1.350v when told to, but the display in the BIOS won't go above 1.350v, anything above is being rounded down. Would be a typical BIOS bug, let alone an ASRock BIOS.
hey buildzoid do a video about Asrock performance presets. i saw some people saying that asrock completely hacks PBO algorithm and performance is so much better than anything you can achieve by yourself with curve optimizer
Hey man, I wonder what you think about Asrock B650M Pro RS? It was not out yet when you did your AM5 round up videos, I am considering it with this board you are using because the pro rs offers 1 more M.2 slot, 2 more Ram slot and the same VRM for the same price of B650M-HDV/M.2.
You ask him that but don't say which CPU you're gonna be using and if you're just going to be gaming or trying to OC your dick off for fun. C'mon bro. Also if you're just asking him "will this be fine for a 7800x3d" then yes. As he's said a MILLION times, that cpu will run on literally anything.
Hi, I have A620M-HDV/M.2+ with 8500G and 96GB (2x48GB) Corsair DDR5 Vengeance Black, PC5-44800 (5600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 40, XMP 3.0, 1.25V CMK96GX5M2B5600C40 But this can only work on default 4800 XMP1 is 5600 but whatever I set it up there is no post so I need to reset CMOS other wise there is no go. Any suggestions? I run TrueNas on it so its Linux.
Hi, you should check mobo's QVL first and xmp is not relible at all now .In fact 48x2 is hard to run at fast, a620 hdv may have some issue at balancing the signal strength of 2 channels.If the system runs stable at default ,just go auto.
@@WgizmO Well, the fact is that ,the memory topology of a620 hdv mobo is so bad .I even see someone using a 16x2 adie 6000 memory kit and it turned out to be a lot of errors in the tm5 anta777 .If the mobo can not handle the 16x2 well , it would become a disaster when you use a 32x2 kit . So, maybe you should go for a 8 layer shielded daisy chain mobo or just simply use the default settings.
I got myself quite some problems with Ram overclocking. Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 with AMD 5 7600 and Kingston Beast DDR 5600. I had the settings on 4800 by default so tried to overclock and also pushed it to extreme on settings. Well that didn't work out so well, nothing worked, then I tried only EXP settings to only 5600 and still got glitches. I read that amd 5 7600 only could handle 5200, so I tried that, but still it doesn't handle all the time, by opening a lot of programs it still glitches, so I probably will go back to 4800. Would love if someone could give me some advice.
It seems that sth wrong with one of your hardware, my 7600 and 7700 can do at least 6200 using hynix 16gx2 adie at soc 1.25v or less .You say glitches, do you mean you can not get into windows or too long training time or the whole system can not boot at all? Solution, you should check hardware first, for example , check the mem dimm one by one .And do you check the mem voltage matching its frequency and cl .By the way , update bios may reduce mem training time at some scenario.
@@bbkk7430 "at least 6200" not really. It will depend on how high the memclk on your CPU can go. While most of them can handle 3000 stable not all can do it at 3100 and only a selected few can do 3200. Bz has one CPU that can't handle memclk 3100 and I believe mine also can't.
Yes. The memory controller (memclk) and the infinity fabric is what isn't synced. You definable want to keep you memclk synced with your memory else you are just adding even more delays / waits. A decent amount of Ryzen CPUs can reach 3100 on the memclk and only a handful can reach 3200 stable.
@@caxx.g He has a few videos on 6000 CL 30 M-die and A-die on Ryzen. You should be able to copy most of his settings. Might need to bump tCL tRCDRD tRP tRAS tRC depending on your silicon lottery.
Man your expertise and experience makes you the suitable person to answer this. I wanna make a medium budget content creation PC. Should i buy an old motherboard that supports two 1080tis in SLI? Because modern GPUs are untouchable in price. Or buy a new motherboard with pcie5 ports and wait for the low tier 4000 series cards to fall in price?
@@Davinmk 2500 euros max. But parts in southern are extremely expensive. Like a 4090 costs 2500 euros. Like saying almost 3000$. But 2.5 is the maximum budget i can dedicate
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclockingI use both VT3 & prime95 large FFT for testing. From my personal experience prime95 takes much longer to error out, if it's running alone. However, if the setup is on the egde, it usually will error out at some point as well. However, prime95 seems to play nicer with Furmark running in the background. In those parallel stresstests inside closed cases, prime95 typically errors out quicker than VT3 for me.
I know you hate Intel, but really it just takes more time to tune… people on the Overclockers forums are calling you out 🙃. Did not mean this message maliciously btw plz don’t aim at me.
I ll go ahead and assume BZ has more experience ocing Alder/Rocket lake than your average guy on forum and that his complaints about intel IMC are warranted
these "People" have no clue about shit, buildzoid has been overclocking all shit for years, no one is gonna waste time on intel anymore since their products are garbage he doesn't care about your forum andy
BZ has a different standard for what is stable. Tunning every single setting for more then 12 hours each is also not fun or worth the performance difference. It also looks like AMD is much more equal from board to board, mem kit to mem kit and Intel is not.
