What I love about this series is I can simply keep all my effects and use them like my amp. I don’t want other delays and modulation onboard. Plus these things sound stunning into a big PA.
Im right there with you. Me personally when they dont do a comparison its either not good at all or noticably not exact. He said in the video its a "tribute" which makes me think they werent really going for a 1:1 kinda thing with it but to capture the essence of the 5150 without making a exact *copy* of it. It sounds pretty good on its own though
No direct comparison because it sounds nothing like a 5150. This is the the fifth video I have seen and I really do not get the hype. I have played many 5150's over the years. I just dont hear the similarity. At least fluff said it was a 5150 "tribute".
The first review that actually doesn't sound like sh** xD My god do these other reviewers not have a clue how to use and mix a sound like this. Thanks!
my curiosity would be how it feels to play it, the original 5150s were wildly different from specimen to specimen. I have played specimens that both sounded and felt great but nothing alike and I have played specimens that did not sound good or feel great once again that sounded nothing alike. May have to give this a shot. I remember walking into Wonderland music in 1993 and the original 5150 would always be sitting over to the one side of the store on top of a stack of cabinets and I would plug into it. about every couple months or so i could tell they replaced it with a different one and that someone had purchased the one I was playing through because it would sound different. I was only 13 years old at the time so I couldn’t scrounge up the bread to purchase it but I definitely got to play through quite a few of them at different music stores, and couple of my friends had them in the late 90s/early 2000s before everyone went crazy over them. it’s exactly why I haven’t bothered to purchase an original on Reverb because in order for me to purchase one of those, I want to hear it and play it first. this pedal would be absolutely great if it captures the better points of the 5150.def one of my favorite amplifiers of all time. I don’t think anything will ever stack up to my KSR though LOL man thanks for the great review. Going to go check this out now. Hope you’re having a great weekend my friend.
I know I am totally missing the point. However... a Synergy 6505 preamp costs the same amount (yes I know you need to buy the SYN1 to go with it). I do understand that this has all the boost pedals and cab sim included, so if you want to record direct, it's cool. But helix native is also the same price with far more options for direct recording. The main draw I do see for it vs HX native is the physical knobs that you get. The immediate feedback of a potentiometer versus moving a slider on a computer hits different. It also sounds pretty decent. I'd be curious to see how it sounds compared to the POD express.
I have an Axe FX II. When they first came out, they were seen as basically miraculous - every amp, cab, effects pedal, and endless control to set up as you wish. And most importantly, great sounds. Today, you can't give them away. But to my ears, the Axe FX II easily competes with the sounds you can get from these UA pedals. Rather than just a 5150, you get every Marshall, Mesa Mark series, Recto, Orange, Splawn, Diezel, and you can combine them with any cab, or multiple cabs, and boost them with any boost. To each his own, but I won't buy dropping hundreds of dollars for a digital rendition of a single amp any time soon.
Oh well, I can tell you that sound / feeling-wise, my Quad Cortex slaps my now sold Axe FX III, and the UAFX pedals I have (Lion + Ruby, haven't gottten my hands on the Anti yet) slap the QC.
How does this stack up against the toneX? Seems like you could make a frankin amp with the toneX say 5150 for distortion and fender twin reverb for cleans
I’m not a metal player. I’ve had a 5150 block letter since 1995. My 5150 has never sounded anything like the 5150s I hear on RU-vid and nothing like this pedal 🤷♂️. I’ll never get rid of mine, it’s a beauty but a full retube on it is painful .
Wow, that’s amazing! But imagine if someone could find a way to put lots of different amp sims into one pedal, maybe along with effects. That would be game changer!
Personally I think it has nothing to do with a real 5150. However it sounds cool, and I think could be a serious rival of an overcomplicated Fractal or Kemper.
Sheesh... and I was on the fence about getting the Mooer 005 because it is $100 bucks... Everytime I see a guitar pedal that's over $300, my brain only sees how far away it is from an HX stomp. This one is just $200 away.
They mean it's essentially the preamp from a guitar amplifier, which you could then run through a power amp to amplify the signal and then out to a speaker cabinet. It also has speaker cabinet simulation built in if you want to run it either to a recording interface or out to a PA which would basically replace a mic'd amp.
@@mylespetruskavich1553 Ok thanks for the answer. So "an amp in a pedal" is a pedal that would probably be best through an fx loop? I have a G4 and I guess I need to try it that way instead of in front of the amp.
@@sole__doubt Yeah a lot of people will put the output to an FX loop return on an amp, but depending on the amp, that's essentially just a really expensive power amp lol
Amp in a Pedal or Amp in a Box. Means the Pedal is tying to sound like a paticular amp. Or some particular amps. It sort of is a category of dirt pedal. There are differences though: More oldscool analoge amp in a Box Pedals are designed to go into the front of a real clean amp. This one is mostly designed to go directly into the pa without any real guitar amp so it's designed to replace the amp entirely. You can turn off the cap simulation and run it into an effects Loop of a Guitar amp so you can get it loud and use a real guitar speaker without the need of a pa.
Not everyone wants or needs those options though. I'm happy just plugging into an amp and getting a good tone rather than faffing around with menus and being overwhelmed with options.
@@SamBrockmann No it didn't I personally didn't think it sounded great at all. So take your weird description and shove it. I just didn't think it sounded great compared to what else is out there..
The pedal sounds lovely but at this point I'm not sure there's a good place for it. I play in a band and we are two guitar players, I sing and I'm the rhythm guitar. Since I don't really use anything other than a clean amp and a high gain amp, a Tonex One is more than enough for me and arguably sounds equal if not better than this. My brother is the lead guitar player and he definitely needs more so he has an HX stomp being the amp modeler with a couple of FX and a bunch of other external pedals... but unless you REALLY dig the sound of this particular unit, why bother? If you are a lead guitar player, for 200 dollars more you get the HX Stomp, or even the HX Stomp XL which extends the palette a lot further... I just don't see where there would be a place for this unit nowadays.
I second this. For that price I can almost get a used 5150 iconic. Better pedals for that price, 100usd short of a Line 6 HX Stomp which can do this and 9999 more things.
The classic amp UAD pedals made sense because there's enough well-heeled Boomers who hate modellers, but this is competing for the money of younger, more budget conscious shoppers who will just buy a modeller instead 🤷♂️ (I think this why they didn't release it as part of the original line up)
UAFX amp emulations are not designed to be used in front of amps, as they are essentially preamps of their own. So they’re meant to go into the fx loop of an amp, into a separate power amp or into a PA or computer and not into an input of a guitar amp.
@@guitarpunkcovers yeah I’ve even tried the revv pedals and didn’t like how they sounded in front of the amp. I definitely don’t gel with amp style pedals. Prefer the mt2w
I’d really prefer they used the additional two jacks for an effects loop rather than stereo in & out which the amps aren’t. Maybe make it possible to choose within the app?
The weak spot for this pedal and the UAFX Lion as well, which to me is mind-bogling, is the fact that you cannot cycle through a number of presets you create - without using the app to do it! If you are thinking you can use this as a multi-sound pedal in a live situation, you cannot, unless you are one of those players who uses your phone on stage. And if you do, you should not be onstage.
I’m clueless with this kinda stuff but why would I not use my amp and run this into my power amp instead? To get the 5150 if I was using say a non high gain amp? I mean if I am running this into my power amp than I dont like my amp? Years into watching these demos on they ‘type’ pedals and I still wonder why I’m using my amp to power a pedal and not just using my amp 🤷 I’m just a simpletine oogha oogha chugga chugga caveman that if I need my amp to power a pedal I need a new amp
Another pedal with only android/iOS control apps and bluetooth connection. Disappointing. Their UAFX control app is complete garbage that never works and the pedals constantly drop the bluetooth connection. It's a shame since the pedals sound really good. I just don't understand why they don't release a desktop app and use the USB port for connection. That would make so much more sense in every single way.
When people say that you still need an amp, things like this pedal are why I laugh. In a blind sound test, no one will be able to tell the difference between this and a tube amp. Anyone who says they'd be able to tell, they're lying.
The need of a separate power amp for these types of preamp pedals (or even modellers like the QC etc) is really the biggest hurdle to me switching from using a real amp. If I'm getting rid of my amp and dropping $2400 (Canadian) on a QC, it sucks to have to drop another $700+ on a power amp. I think it's a great option for a lot of people, but not a solution for absolutely everyone obviously.
@@mylespetruskavich1553 , considering you probably can sell the actual amp for more than the power amp would cost, why is that a hurdle? Is the shopping itself the hurdle?
@@sole__doubtno you don't. My band and I very rarely use amps live. We use FRFR speakers but just for back up. We are fully digital and run through in ears.
