Pinning a new comment to let y'all know I'm working on a new series to help introduce people to specific sub-genres of the genres covered in this video. I've got two videos in that series already done, first one went up a month ago and covers Darkcore & Darkside Jungle, and the second one went up yesterday and covers Techstep & Neurofunk. I put a link to a playlist containing them in the first few seconds of this video, but y'all can also just check my recent uploads to find them. The next two videos in the series are probably going to cover Atmo Jungle & Atmo DnB, and Jungle Tekno & Happy Hardcore. Also working with a Breakcore guy I know to help with covering Breakcore sub-genres, since I didn't do the best job at covering them in this video, and also don't have enough Breakcore in my library to really cover its sub-genres anyway.
Me listening to 3 DnB tracks mixed together: "These tracks sound so good together!" Me listening to a single Breakcore track: "These tracks sound so good together!"
I am the guy who asked about why so much breakbeat music is being mislabeled as Breakcore. Suffice to say, this guide is absolutely incredible. Will be using this as a resource quite frequently
At the end of the day, I don't think it's crazy for people just getting introduced to break heavy music to call what they hear breakcore. Genre associations are fundamentally fluid and morph with the times - features often delineated by era rather than name. I'd argue that breakcore means something different now than it did 5 years ago.
@@laughinginthe90s Totally true, and I get why people new to these genres of breakbeat music might latch on to the name "Breakcore" thb. It'd be a pretty good name to group all of DnB, Jungle, Breakcore & Breakbeat Hardcore together under, if it wasn't already being used as the name for one of those genres lol. I will just say that you do have to be a bit careful with exactly how fluid these genre become though. A phenomenon that's started in the last couple years is that people have been making/listening to tracks that are often extremely clear cut examples of Jungle or DnB, but the tracks get labeled as Breakcore for seemingly no other reason than the producer and/or listeners decided that it should be called Breakcore. And like you said, most of the people doing this are very new to these genres, meaning most of this mislabeling is probably being done out of ignorance rather than a conscious decision to move Breakcore in a new direction. Basically, evolving Breakcore in a new direction is fine, but evolving Breakcore to literally be the exact same thing as Jungle & DnB is doing a disservice to all 3 genre imo. Merging genres like that also just creates a lot of confusion and makes it harder to look for music tbh.
People have been mislabeling breakcore for as long as I can remember. I think we all have at some point. It's not the easiest genre to get a grasp on considering the vast difference from artist to artist and year to year. Breakcore artist tend to borrow from pretty much any genre of music there is, so it's bound to be confusion. It is also happening in every genre out there.
@@apoxicsounds a bit like what happened to ‘dubstep’ happening again lol and I enjoy some of that newer stuff that the world got hip to as ‘dubstep’, but compared it to the original stuff, the difference is too apparent 😅 it’s like 2 completely different genres.
@@CWCvilleCopThe UK is definitely to credit for breakbeat and all that but America has rock music, soul, funk, hip-hop, country, jazz, various types of folk and much, much, MUCH more. Just look at a tiny neighborhood in the US like Harlem, that small area has more influential musical culture and history than many countries.
@@antlerbraum2881 I'm definitely overgeneralizing in that comment, but a lot of what you mentioned was either developed in the UK, or has roots in it. Rock is obvious as the US and UK co-developed it, but all American country descends directly from Anglo/Celtic folk music. As does blues, since all blues pioneers were basically putting their own new spin on country/western and traditional gospel, and therefore so does jazz, and therefore funk and hip-hop. Though obviously those genres developed IN the US with US exclusive influences, like Harlem, as you mentioned. It's definitely an immense collection of subjects with just as much nuance, but every genre known as an "American" genre has roots in, or directly descends from Britain and Ireland.
Old geezer here. Never heard of Breakcore and the track playing at 8:32 (just the kind of stuff I loved) was the type of thing already being referred to as Jungle in late 1991 (briefly known as Military), particularly at places like Starlite 2000 in Leicester - still have tapes and flyers from that era. By the time of my somewhat enforced absence in mid 1993, it was pretty much the same thing, just quicker and known as Drum and Bass. Not a criticism of the content, just the take of someone who was knocking about at the time. It would be interesting to hear another old git's perspective of this era.
In the North West, hardcore and piano were different genres. Hardcore would be played somewhere like Konspiracy, Sound Garden, PSV. Piano would be somewhere like Shelleys, Maximes, Quadrant Park. Breakbeats weren't a defining feature because lots of UK music had breakbeats.
The truth is, no one really knows what they are. A lot of the qualities you see throughout the genres in this video are shared and there are very few defining CLEAR indicators if any. The truth is the boxes we try to create now are different from the boxes back then. An artist can create Jungle today and people in the past would call it DnB and vice versa. As I explained in another comment, there are a lot of tracks that could go either way but there is no definitive "Oh this track is 10% too complex. It is now Jungle!" Or "Hmmm, this track has too little Reggae. If it had 5% more Reggae it is then officially Jungle." In fact, back then people called their jungle tracks dnb just to avoid any of the controversy around jungle music and it being seen as troublemaker's music. I think breakcore is pretty distinctive. I think we should recategorize breakcore and jungle as subgenres of dnb. Drum n Bass I feel is so vague and has been used to describe many songs that fuflfill different subgenres. I feel like Drum n Bass can go any direction. If there is clear and strong Reggae influence, you now have Jungle. Enough complexity and dynamic composition, it could be seen as breakcore. Regardless, it's all Drum n Bass. Drum n Bass as a parent genre will always pull from the subgenres. There will be moments where a "break solo" will happen but it might not encapsulate the whole song. There will also be an occasional reggae sample that can be borrowed from time to time without being jungle. This would also leave room for garage and liquid dnb to be "under" Drum n Bass umbrella. An example of a genre that has gone way off enough to call themselves a different umbrella would be dubstep. It took and borrowed a lot from garage and dnb as a whole, but it's now distinctively different and instead a cousin to DnB. Early dubstep largely didnt use breaks at all but kept the reggae influence. A lot of different basses were used as it tried to find its sound. Under DnB - jungle - garage - liquid dnb Under Dubstep - glitch hop - melodic dubstep Under House - deep house - electro house - prog house - big room - tropical Techno and Disco were both huge influences and I feel are cousins to House the same way DnB is to Dubstep. In my opinion, all these fall under Electronic music.
@@spawn302 Where on earth do get Jungle being called "troublemakers music"? Never in my life have I heard that. A "clear and strong reggae influence" is Jungle? GARAGE! under Drum and Bass sub-heading? Come on mate.
@himagain803 if you go back to the roots of jungle, you'll see it has an origin where news media said that jungle music and its beats were responsible for the rise in gang violence in the UK and had racism attached to it. This is of course, untrue and similar to how people would always say that if you played Call of Duty or GTA it would cause you to "be more violent". But still, jungle music was slammed by people everywhere demonizing Jungle, leading to creation of "DnB" as a genre that was supposed to not be Jungle
STARLIGHT 2000 all nighter! I remember one where we were chatting to the bride and groom who were getting married after they cleaned the place up a bit and changed the lights! Beautiful days!
As an amateur, out of practice percussionist currently working on a videogame with a heavily interactive breakbeat soundscape and trying to accurately capture that 90's feel, I can't thank you enough for making this. Your compositional notes are especially indispensable.
@@ioele1000 Currently under the working title Project Lakehouse; no idea yet what release title will actually be... If you're interested in checking it out when there's something to check out, though, I'd say be on the look out in about 2-4 years for a game about visiting your grandparents for the summer between high-school and college to compete in a long-boarding competition on a supposedly utopian simulated island paradise aboard a massive O'Niell cylinder space station.
Breakbeat hardcore (early and mid 90s) is the best but it's so hard to find DJs playing it or releasing mixes nowadays, let alone producers. I hope more people will become interested in this genre.
You occasionally get some mainstream producers popping up with a breakbeat hardcore track or too. I can't remember if it was Chase and Status or Rudimental but I recently heard a track from one of them that sounded straight outta 1992. It was a nice bit of nostalgia.
I avoided this video at first cause I thought it was amateur hour. This mix is fire. I've been listening and attending Jungle and DnB shows since 2003. Really happy it's making a comeback, still the most futuristic music I know. Thanks for creating this mix, lots of amazing stuff on here!
Hahah, almost born that year, Ive started with house when I was a teenager, then moved to techno, although I wasnt a super big fan, until a friend showed me dnb for the first time, and now im completely addicted to neuro. The parties with this music are on another tier.
bro i'm so glad i found someone with your mentality for this genre, someone who appreciates each genre, appreciates how new fans are brought over by artists like sewerslvt and machinegirl, but still appreciates how the genres can seem to overlap and actually gave examples to differentiate.
i only recently learned that breakbeat hardcore is actually separate from breakcore. the info in this video is invaluable. much love man. i hope jungle, dnb, and breakcore get to live on in this new era of electronic music culture
There was a whole interim period of Drill n Bass between the DnB and the later breakcore. It was made popular by more glitchy artists like Aphex Twin, Autechre and Squarepusher. Very fast complex breaks, odd time signatures and messed up rhythms. Defo worthy of a mention as an aside rather than a sub genre.
To me, and at the time, breakcore was a less intelligent and more formulaic derivitive of the glitchy style of those artists you mention and other Warp artists.
Great work my friend! This is an important subject to cover for the new generation, especially kids who have discovered a lot of this stuff online rather than through going to parties IRL. Weirdly a big part of the original Breakcore spirit that seems to go over the heads of younger takers to the genre is the extreme silliness and irreverence in the approach to sampling that really dominated the early 00s scene - people like Shitmat, DJ Scotch Egg, Ladscraper, Otto Von Schirach, parties like Wrong Music, Earblender, etc a lot of whom were fundamental in setting up parties like Bangface which is arguably the world's most notorious out and out "Breakcore" party. Me and a friend have been talking about this recently and that "beyond the pale" aspect of Breakcore in the 00s (which imo was largely down to Shitmat) in a lot of ways completely presaged the contemporary electronic trend of "edits"/remixing highly "inappropriate" or "ironic" music, it was common to hear bad 80s pop, hair metal and TV theme tunes with breaks/distorted kickdrums over them at these raves haha. There was always the more "serious" almost IDM/"DSP music"/Aphex adjacent side of it like Venetian Snares, Bogdan Raczynski, Xanopticon, etc too but for me the distinguishing thing about Breakcore is that it isn't even so much a "sound" (even though it kind of is now) as much as a sort of approach to electonic composition and especially sampling which just goes "beyond" genre and usually way beyond good taste hahaha!! Like HxHC, Jungle, DnB etc all that stuff is quite sincere whereas Breakcore is sort of, when you cross the post-modern line of it being in some way "meta", beggaring the question "can you actually rave to this speedcore remix of Cotton Eye Joe?" (or something similar hahaha smh) which also imo has actually resulted in a lot of terrible music purely for irony's sake but then again it's kind of like punk, it did open the door for some genuine radical experimentalism with sound and some people used that idea to make music that is actually really powerful and futuristic. Personally I am a bit fatigued with the overly ironic side of all of this stuff these days and prefer a balance of silly and serious! Off Me Nut records do wikkid parties in the UK these days where the balance is pretty good. Anyway, just some thoughts!! Respect!!!
Word ! Perfect summary. In the early 2000's breakcore was not so much a codified genre but an attitude towards electronic music. I feel lucky I got to witness that.
Yeah early to mid 00 breakcore was such fun. Every artist in that bracket has their own unique sound more so than now where it's a bit more generic 😊 Shout out to my faves of that era: Shitmat, Venetian Snares, Ladyscraper, Bong Ra, Hrvatski💪
When you put the third deck at 1:17:00 :') Thank for this video, I wish I could live this raving experience, I go to Drum N Bass parties but it's so different today, sure they keep the 2-step repetitive structure, it's very energetic, but man I love these 303 synth, the vocals, I want to hear vocals goddamnit, atmospheric synths, you get the groove but I also need the trance, to dissociate.., the jazzy modulations too.. the melancholy.. Modern tracks are perfectly mixed, mastered, the sound design is on top, but it doesn't feel like tinkering, like experimenting with sound.. maybe the 90's crowd had an unique taste for this music.. Maybe it's also the Korg M1 sound that defined the whole 90' electronic music.. I don't know where to get this energy today..
Hi Birdy, I‘m in the process of getting into DnB. This is all super interesting. Any listening recommendations that capture this kinda vibe you explain in your comment? Thanks!
@@Laiserball8 I've been listening to this mix quite a lot ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kgy6C76Tuvw.html Otherwise, the part I mentionned here probably falls to the Techstep category. For the vibe I'm trying to picture, it falls more in the Jungle part I think, the channel has an interesting mix called Jungle Tekno #27 or something
You can't get this energy again, at least not in this form. What we had in the 90's was totally and purely unique to its time. That intersection of technology, culture, drugs, and the last remnants of financial stability were all compressed into a sound the youth of that time discovered and crafted as they went into adulthood leaving behind love & unity for label contracts, movie deals, and exclusives for Puma and Gucci. Unfortunately, today is rife with pay2play, nepotism, hollow "musicians", grifters, and predatory megacorporations. Sony, Warner, and Universal now own upwards of 60% of all music downloaded, sold, and streamed. Worldwide. What does give people like myself who were just old enough to be influenced by this music as it came out hope is hearing people like yourself experiencing it and asking where to find it. whether at a house party or illegal rave that energy, just like with punk and hip-hop in its infancy, has an authentic unmistakable primal sound that taps into the human psyche like your first psychedelic trip. There's no hiding it, no way to imitate it. No denying it. You know it as soon as you hear it, like a dead ancestors voice you've never heard but know better than your own. If you haven't found it by now then that only means someone hasn't rediscovered it through creation again. Sometimes that person gets to be you. Whatever you do just keep looking, by the time you find it we'll all be listening to it again.
I remember online guides like this online in the early 2000s, with nested subgenres and little 30 second clips because that was all our dial-up could handle. I used to be pretty obsessed with the labels, but now I recognize that they’re most useful if you’re a DJ or a hardcore fan of one genre who is looking for something specific. Stay groovy, friends. ❤
This video is on another level, man. History lesson, technical analysis, AND awesome music with tracks displayed as they're played??? I've never seen a DJ mix video like this. Bravo
i appreciate that this guide isnt very judgy or gatekeepy, im quite new to this and have lots of trouble differentiating between these genres, so whenever i tried learning more a lot of people i spoke to were really passive aggressive to me just because i have some trouble understanding, this video is really helpful and amazing thank you!
Original pinned comment: Edit 2 (June 24th, 2024): Working on a new series covering specific subgenres of the genres in this video. First video in that series just went up, and it covers Darkcore & Darkside Jungle. Planning on covering Breakcore eras/subgenres as well at some point, though I'm gonna try and work with a guy I know who's a longtime veteran of the scene to make sure I do a better job of representing the genre lol. Edit: Getting way too many comments for me to respond to while also remaining a functioning human being IRL, so my notification are going to be limited or turned off entirely for the foreseeable future. Here's the complete version of the genre guide I uploaded a month ago. Some of the stuff I wrote is probably a bit incoherent at times, due to me having ADHD and taking a few months of sporadic work to finally finish it, but hopefully it's still a decent guide. There's definitely going to be some stuff I got wrong though, so I'll update this comment with corrections as needed. Also, if someone feels like they could make a way better version of this same concept, I high encourage you to do it. The best tool I have to make a video like this is OBS, which isn't great 'cause I'm basically just limited to making a slideshow without an inbuilt spellcheck function. Clarifications & Corrections: - The terms "Jungle" and "Drum & Bass" are somewhat interchangeable, and Jungle & DnB can be considered 2 different eras of the same genre. Generally, Jungle is used to describe the early era of Jungle/DnB, from roughly 1992-1995, as well as anything more modern that tries to emulate this early era of the genre. Drum & Bass describes the later era of Jungle/DnB, starting in around 1995 when the stripped back 2-step beats started to dominate Jungle/DnB. - When it comes to Breakcore tempos, most Breakcore tracks are going to be above 180 bpm, while the vast majority DnB/Jungle tracks are going to be under 180 bpm. However, a track having a breakbeat and being 180+ bpm does not automatically make it Breakcore. What really sets Breakcore apart from Jungle/DnB is how hardcore it is in comparison. Jungle has more complex breakbeats in comparison to DnB, but DnB is much faster in comparison to Jungle. Breakcore is both much faster than DnB, and has more complex breakbeats than Jungle. Like I wrote in the video though, Breakcore can use tempos slower than 180 bpm. If Breakcore is supposed to be both faster than DnB and more complex than Jungle, then how does using DnB/Jungle tempos work? Simple: You compensate by making the breakbeats even more insane. In truth, tempo doesn't really matter in Breakcore, the real goal is to make something that's too hardcore to be Jungle or DnB. Using extremely fast tempos is a very easy & helpful way to achieve this, but it is not the only way. - The Reese Bass come from the Detroit Techno track "Just Want Another Chance" by Reese, an alias of Kevin Saunderson. - When I said that Jungle chops its breaks more than Hardcore, this is only really true for the early 90s form of Breakbeat Hardcore that existed before Jungle was really a thing. Breakbeat Hardcore & Happy Hardcore tracks produced contemporary to Jungle have adopted more Jungle style breakbeat choppage, though it's still not a universal feature of Hardcore breakbeats.
In a way jump-up serves as like a continuation of the jungle sound as it often times will use layered breaks along with 2 steo rhythms and do have ragga basslines sometimes, it tends to sound sillier or rave-ier than the deep dark sound that still kinda dominates the sound since like, DJ Trace Mutant Jazz Roller's instinct Remix. However the genres are so intertwined its not always clear.
I think the bridge to the 2step dnb sound started with intelligent dnb in the early 90s when that sound started to diverge from jungle into its own thing, intelligent dnb still sounded similar to jungle bc of how early they split, but it was a step into a different path, they didn't called it intelligent dnb at the time probably but still
I love how this is both a great guide and intro to these genres through telling it's history, but also doubles as a really good oldskool mix. Great stuff. 💖
I'm 31 years old/born in the middle of the the current duration of the scene in it's entirety and am SO THANKFUL that you put in the work to make a "document" such as this. I relate a lot to the frustration around the conflating of various sub-genres, especially with the new wave of artists over the past decade(ish). Like you said in the disclaimer, I'm fine with the newer stuff, but until now, it's been a murky world in terms of categorization and overall, dealing with the major deficits in understanding the scope of the scene given the fact that the average listener age is constantly shifting towards the newer listeners who didn't grow up downloading Dieselboy on Limewire and bumping that shit on your Zune or iPod... or even... A POCKET PC.
I needed this. This music affected me deeply as a pre-teen/early teen and I am much more compelled by it than other genres. I am not musically trained so I don't really know how to label them and explore them better. I just can say I like this song, I like that song, etc. Thank you very much for making this!
@gengraded the labels I'm referring to are not about labeling people. I just mean I don't know what the special characteristics are for each of the genres.
@@bredmond812 I understood as that way. As someone who deconstructs and breaks elements down and creates there is a part of me that wonders what it's like not to have the music theory background and analysis part of listening and just enjoying it.
@gengraded ah, OK. You are a musician. That makes sense. I have heard of these sentiments among musicians before. For example, when I read about the Daft Punk album "Discovery" apparently they wanted to return to the feeling where music was just a good feeling, and not a technical- guided production. It might have been a different album, but I don't think so. Anyway, it sounds like you can relate.
@@bredmond812 When my cousins were really young I would hold down chords on my guitar with my left hand and just let them play with the strings however they wanted. It was fascinating watching them slap the strings, try and pluck them. They would laugh and laugh because I would do my best to make due with how they were playing. I want to get on their level if that makes sense.
Listening to Jungle/Breakcore/DnB music since 2004. And appreciate your effort very much, also thanks for introducing such great artists. Jungle is massive!!!
Holy shit this is the most detailed guide I've ever seen. The effort in researching the information and making this 2 hour long video is incredible. I'd literally do anything just to make this video gain more attention.
What a great mix! As awesome as the new stuff is, I love how some of the earlier genres play with sound. I love how they try to really surprise you and always attempt to create a unique atmosphere. I really appreciate the information as it helped me understand how to more easily find what I’m actually looking for when I’m looking for new music. Many thanks!
You forgot to mention the very factual and unbiased statement that Jungle is the most refined form of dnb and is also the greatest musical genre of all time.
Just starting this but important to note that breakcore was also prevalent in the early 90's in Germany. It was originally a mix between various hardcore electronic styles with jungle beats. It then got reinvented in the late 90's with drill & bass and idm influences.
good vid mate i started listening to dnb/jungle/breakcore in 2020 due to sewerslvt and one of the first things i did was do some research about dnb and breakcore (i am very information and knowledge hungry), so i'm already quite familiar with the differences and history of all three. however, i didn't know about breakbeat hardcore. when i heard people say that "jungle split off from hardcore" i legit thought they were talking about some early form of gabber lol
My first experience with DnB/jungle/hardcore was somewhere in 2000-2005 when I was a kid playing a game on PS1. I can't exactly tell how I found dnb while surfing the Internet, it felt like as if I knew it was always there and I was irregularly listening to it. Took some years for me to discover jungle, then breakcore, then happy hardcore, and now I just discovered bb hardcore from this video.
i went into this video expecting some toxic video complaining about sewerslvt or something and was instead greeted with a great track selection that does an incredible job at summarizing genres, i love this also that mks x turbulence double was brutal youre incredibly talented
As someone who is brand spanking new to the genre, this is a godsend. This is EXACTLY the kind of video I've been looking for, I've been wanting to learn more about these genres so I can get into them and find stuff I like, but have been struggling with how to differentiate them or even where to start. The descriptions are so helpful, this entire list is basically an organized recommendations list, and it's so well mixed that it's also just a really damn good listen. Instant subscription, thank you for your service
I know it's like 2 years late but this guide is actually super amazing no joke- Thank you so much cause I was totally lost while discovering Hardcore, DnB and Jungle for the first time lol And this was SUPER well made like, going over the history and common traits of each genre was super helpful man
I'm actually working on essay for English class basing on how social media is influencing breakcore as jungle. This really helps with me being able to pull them apart further! thank you so much! (You'll be on the credit list (though it won't be published LOL))
Well, at least in the UK it did. I probably should've mentioned this in the video, but mainland Europe also independently developed it's own version of Happy Hardcore, which was based off of Gabber/Hardcore Techno. I'm not very familiar with the overall history of Happy Hardcore and don't really listen to much of it outside of the old skool UK style stuff, but it seems like the UK's version of Happy Hardcore did evolve to me more like Gabber/Hardcore Techno by the later half of the 90s. So I suspect that a lot of modern Happy Hardcore is taking influence from both the UK breakbeat type stuff and the European Gabber type stuff.
@@dxmthl I know you wrote this 4 months ago but you're absolutely right. Cross-pollination occurred between the UK and the Netherlands via Scotland who had its own nascent rave music with Bouncy Techno. There was a great deal of crossover (Scottish artists playing at the Thunderdome-style events for example) which bled down the country into the north, almost certainly forcing an emphasis on kickdrums into Hardcore/Happy Hardcore. The style you think of when some says Happy Hardcore (Shooting Star etc) is essentially a fusion of Bouncy Techno and Happy Hardcore. Paul Elstak and Scott Brown were probably the lads responsible for this.
Been around these genres now for about 15 years when I first saw them in my early teens. Pretty good representations although I see you selected a lot of modern tracks. It would be cool if these modern tracks were put into context of older ones to really showcase the history of each genre.
Yeh I was impressed the video seciton on Jungle didnt include Maximum style - tom and jerry , Shy FX - original nuttah, the water margin - studio pressure, or conquering lion - code red etc
gonna be using this guide as a way to help folks distinguish between jugle/dnb and breakcore, cuz the mislabeling is really starting to irk me. also big props for this fire mix, it has introduced me to some new artists and i can't wait to deep dive into their discographies
I love these mini mixes so much, growing up my dad loved Jungle and Liquid DnB and my mom was a Happy Hardcore type of gal, so I grew up listening to those and its sister genres a lot! Im glad to see people getting into them more often and these mixes explaining the differences with some history is honestly a godsend! ❤
As a fan of all these genres, its so refreshing seeing someone take the time to dedicate an educational video on them and their differenes all the while playing phenomenal tunes. Keep up the good work!
Great mix. I'm not involved in the genre war in any way, but it's interesting to learn how people seek inclusion and exclusion. Super fun listen through.
This has been great and a fun way to learn. For the longest time I was only aware of one of the Hardcores and to me Jungle was basically just Ragga-Jungle. Have been enjoying most of these genres for years, though, so clarity really helps (especially when I'm in the mood for something specific).
It's complicated because jungle came to be associated with ragga jungle, which forced the d&b name change. D&B was kind of a throwback to 1993 jungle but with more edited drum breaks and heavier bass. Then following that tech step and more minimalistic stuff came in too. Then add to that confusion that jungle was the umbrella term for all the music, and then d&b was the new umbrella term.
An absolutely amazing video essay on this particular group of genres within electronic music. I started listening to electronic music around 2008, and started drifting backwards towards the more 90's era (System 7, The Prodigy, Fatboy Slim, Orbital, Leftfield, Aphex Twin, etc) because I preferred that sound of people kind of winging it with limited equipment. I listened to all of it at one point, from gabber, neurofunk, psytrance, you name it and I've probably heard it. Your knowledge of the music is top-tier, and this video was clearly a passion project. The mixes are great, plenty of artists I haven't heard before that are going in my rotation now. Just 10/10 all around, great job.
I first heard about breakcore in about 2016 when I was into noise music and went down the extreme music rabbit hole. This led me to learn about the different flavours of rave/dance music and their chronology which can be quite confusing. This video puts it across very well, while leaving room for further research / individual interpretation.
To say you nailed this would be an insult, phenomenal mix and thanks so much for making this, nice to see legends in the scene providing education on heritage and welcome more peeps to the family, big ups!
Incredibly informative, thank you! For years, I thought there was "good dnb" and "bad dnb", but now I know, all dnb is good, and the bad dnb is just called something else!
I am so glad I accidentally found this video. I have been getting really into this umbrella of music and have loved happy hardcore since I was a kid, and it’s great to understand more of what’s happening
Started with Goldie in 2020 and now I've made it to this history lesson. Appreciate the hard work bro, the whole umbrella of the DnB community is really on the rise again and I'm so happy to be apart of it!
Thank you for making this!!! found your video on the sewersvlt subreddit, I'm a metalhead who recently got into more dnb and jungle, electronic music in genetal, and the genra labeling has been incredibly confusing for me, and this clears it up so much for me, thx man
I've been looking for a great mix with clear descriptions for my friends who want to understand those genres. Thank you so much, really. This is easily one of the greatest mixes so far
I’ve been a D&B fan since the early 90’s. I’m no expert by any means but I think you did a stellar job! At the end of the day this is art and art will always push the form and redefine the definition but that’s evolution and it’s fantastic and should never be contained but definitely celebrated. Kudos! ❤
youre a legend for making this bro. recently i find it hard to comment under an artist that explores these genres as i dont want to get the labels incorrect and then deal with the responses from people that know more than I do. its been pretty hard to differentiate especially if you check the bandcamp pages that have the genres listed but the replies tend to say otherwise. also great mix here as well
wish there was more early 2000's breakcore since that'd be a pretty good example of how it evolved over the years. some early examples can be venetian snares, dev/null, datach'i, ruby my dear, and tons more. just gotta find it 😉
yea needs the evolution from remarc to vibert/bogdan raczynski/sqpusher/aphex and the euro stuff like alec empire/digicore thru to VS and hellfish and all of that
I once found at max two guides on subgenres like this over the 12 years I've been delving into these. Both have since disappeared or lost to time. I'm so glad to see such an informative guide again! Thank you for the amazing mix with knowledge to keep it going~
I cannot believe most of these songs are less than 10 (5 even!) years old. This mix took me right back. Epic. The explanations and analysis is great. I'll be watching the whole video over the next couple days.
Over the years I've been influenced by the earlier dub scene, 90's, and found myself creating a dub bassline in my song The Sun was once Yellow. The music has that hidden element but it's clearly an influence.
Thank you for this guide! I've recently been dipping my toes in all kinds of electronic music and I love discovering all the different genres it has to offer! This video is a great way to deepen that knowledge and a really good mix on top of that too :)
Great video! I like all the explanations, especially the descriptions of each genre, especially of breakcore. the only thing I don't really like are the examples of breakcore used... there are much better examples than Machine Girl and TOKYOPILL... not to mention the repetitive drum loops in Emptiness are not characteristic of breakcore breaks... etc without mentioning the obvious (vsnares): Datach'i, Ebola, LAF-O, Doormouse, Foxdye, Cardopusher, Epsilon, pencil, Mekuso, Ladyscraper, Xanopticon, Sickboy...
Yeah, the Breakcore examples are easily my biggest regret with this video. Part of it was due to me not having as good of an understanding of what Breakcore is as I thought I did back when I made this. Another part of it's just due to laziness. And yet another part of it's due to the fact that I just completely forgot I'd picked up a couple tracks by Ruby My Dear and Stazma on a PRSPCT Records comp album I got back in 2021 lol. Didn't remember I had those tracks until like a month after I uploaded this video, and I've been kicking myself for it ever since.
Thanks for the response! I will say I've no issues with the inclusion of onionfriends2004. I'd label it breakcore with no issue. Stazma would've been a great addition for sure. Hell, I'd see nothing wrong with uploading a rendition of this video, maybe even including double the amount of songs in the breakcore section's mix, I'm thinking it would effectively illustrate the complexity and diversity of the genre and how it mixes with other genres... 😊 I understand it might not seem worth it... I'm just too defensive about breakcore I think 😁 again, good work on the video overall.
I love the breakdown, I also enjoy the explanations and history. I was a little disappointed you didn't use a majority of songs from the eras. You used so much from 2015+. Where is KraftWerk, dieselboy, aphex twin, Carl Cox, Orbital, Prodigy, ATB, St. John, Chemical Brothers, Scooter, Orbital, Danny the Wild Child, The Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk, Fatboy Slim, Da Rude, Paul Van Dyk, and more. Maybe even some DJ mixes like DJ Dan, DJ Micro, Alice DeeJay, Granted some of these may not fit your genre completely, but I was surprised to find most of your songs not from the era you were speaking to. However, all that being said, great work man.
good lord! I was so afraid this video was deleted due to copyright or something. I was looking at Gary powers to find if people came over to that song because of your video but they didn't than I found the word jungle and I made a search gues of jungle hardcore and I found this video back! I'm so excited right now! :)
I really, REALLY appreciate the time and attention and detail you put into this video, especially for Breakcore! It is my absolute favorite genre and I was introduced to it via the ADHD Focus Breakcore playlist (thumbnail is a girl's head splitting apart into chaotic colors and misc items). While I found some amazing artists through exploring playlists, I'd often become bored with what I've find, especially when I can't scratch at that Breakcore itch. I asked for chaos, where is it?? I got something more atmospheric instead. No hate on the other genres. Hell, now I have more music to add to my playlists! But when I order Breakcore, I mean Breakcore! Give me a rapid rhapsody jumbled into 4 minutes! If I'm not scratching at the walls halfway into the song, then sign me out! (I also love the Subgenres: Yes for Breakcore akjsdf so fucking accurate and that's why I love it)
If you’re anything like me you probably already know about them but Lapfox’s/Renard’s music might help scratch that super crazy music itch you have, The Big Black is one of my personal favorites :] There’s also 4lung although I haven’t listened to their music as much
I am back here once again. When I watched this before, I had very little knowledge about dnb and breakcore (and how they are different). Now I am starting to understand more about the differences and the history behind it much better with the help of this.
Fantastic work - and great thumbnail, very relatable. All these breakcore mixes on RU-vid or songs on Soundcloud and they are often more Jungle than Breakcore. I think the zoomers just like the name Breakcore, and packaging it with anime pictures to make an 'aesthetic,' but I think it's very misleading as a fan of both genres. I also think it somewhat diminishes the history of Jungle when they try to rebrand it as 'Breakcore,' considering it came from the underground scene in the UK by people of colour as a form of expression for lower class. I'm not a SJW type, but I think whitewashing everything as Breakcore is bad in this context. However I am so very glad to see so many new people start to appreciate this music.
as someone that grew up with jungle/dnb in the house (my brother was a 90s raver), this mix is amazing and was so educational for me! thank you so much dude you have a new sub!!
Are we going to see more of these kind of videos in the future ? It would even be absolutely amazing if you made the exact same video as this one but with other songs !
