A bit safe. Elysian Pilgrim REVIEW 

True.

but there is a lot of "better" "safe tuned" iem on the market

@@recode8453 Better is subjective. Cheaper? Yes.

​@@recode8453This one is for people who want to experience an Elysian.

​@@recode8453name one other than simgots

It is truly polarizing.

I don't count the B3 and the Dusk to be great iems at all. The B3 has absolutely terrible bass. The Dusk is basically a 250$ iem sold at a 100$ more for its EQ presets. It's not incisive at all in its transients and easily inferior to the P8 & the Hype 4 . The Studio 4 is great for its vocals. With the recent arrivals of the Project M, DaVinci, EM10 ; i think the Dusk is going to be pretty irrelevant pretty soon.

Well, if your unit didn't get nerfed, it's either (1) bad QC, (2) your unit wasn't nerfed yet but they nerfed others, or (3) you or SuperReview had a placebo effect. If it's 1 or 2, then Elysian to me can no longer be trusted because even their high end stuff had QC issues affecting build and sound, or revisions (nerfs) affecting sound. If same thing happens to the mass produced Eletech collab too, his brand just can't be trusted.

@@Viewer13128 You're more knowledgeable about Elysian products than I am as this is my first one I have nothing to compare too. 👍

I don't really like it, treble timbre is nasty.

Gaea is fun. A bit intense after like... 20 minutes, but certainly impressive.

I chose Hype 4 over it and I am glad I did

@@Audio_Revelations I chose Pilgrim over Hype 4 and I am glad I did

Yeah I think so, not here yet.

I tried various tips, don't believe in source memes though.

Workin' on it 👍 social.squig.link/newsfeed/1640405732526395402

I most recently heard Annihilator 2023, it's impressive, though TBH not my favorite. But not much in common with the Pilgrim, the Annihilator is quite bassy and aggressive.

Yes.

@@SuperReview That is exciting! I am looking forward to your thoughts. I have it on pre-order. I am going to decide if I am going to keep the Davinci or Mega5est!

​@@IcarsisTVI'm the same, and then the EM10 has just been released 😭😂

Yeah, average.

They're off an unannounced IEM.

@@SuperReview Spill the beans! LOL those look nice.

Pretty sure Meze Alba

Where'd you hear it?

@@SuperReviewin Malaysia. My friends know Lee and I had the opportunity to try the final prototypes.

Really? The Effect Audio representative told me "PILGRIM:NOIR is expected to provide a darker and warmer sound as compared to the PILGRIM" in an email, which was disappointing since I prefer brighter IEMs. If the Noir ends up being brighter, it would peak my interest a lot more!

​@AverieS820 i heard the noir is the darker tuned version of pilgrim as well. I also remember hearing it has different driver composition as well

Studio4 is more different vs. SA6 mk2 than Canon is.

@@SuperReview What about the Mega 5EST, how similar would it be to the ones I own? One to consider for variety, or skip?

It seems I'm the opposite of you. I'm selling the SA6 MK2 and prefer Studio4 because it has much better tonal and more natural timbre 🤭

It's an Effect Audio cable, they pricey.

Yeah just watched his review now that mine is published. His description of the treble reminds me of the NY CanJam version moreso than this production version.

@@SuperReviewA revised review of this IEM could be uploaded soon, if Timmy reviewed the NY CanJam version.

@@user-pc7yu6di2k I assume he has the production version and that they retuned it already for CanJam Singapore.

Gaea is kinda like Takis. Like whoa, what are you doing. I kinda like this. I can't eat a whole bag but... tomorrow I'm gonna want some again.

May I ask if you a/b tested Diva OG or new version, and was annihilator OG or new version? Thanks.

@@Viewer13128 Can’t recall. It was whatever they had on-hand at that particular CanJam. I’ll say Diva was a clear favorite for my prefs.

@@audio_tron ah thanks. i only asked because they all sound different. The 2021 Diva used the Liquid Links Conti cable while the 2023 version uses the Effect Audio Ares S cable. Any chance you still remember what the cable looked like or what year the canjam was? Thanks.

@@Viewer13128 it was 2023. Effect Audio rings a clear bell in my memory.

It's on Squiglink: squig.link/?share=Harman_Adjusted_Target,Super_22_Target,IEF_Comp_Target,Elysian_Pilgrim,Elysian_Pilgrim_CJNYC24 Navigate to the EQ tab, remove the targets, and then use Auto EQ.

@@SuperReview For some reason i can't get it to work. It says there's no target

figured it out, sorry. Thanks

I have to say, After to using DSP on my Dap, I much prefer the Canjam version of the tuning. It was definitely too safe. I said the same exact same thing to a friend of mine. It was very balanced and nothing stood out. But now it's very detailed and a little sparkly. Thank you for this!

Future videos are just dramatic readings of listening notes :P

Mark do you make those available? I also find them useful precisely because there’s less drama lol

Supporters on Discord can access them 🙊

It sounds significantly different, graphs significantly different, and from conversations at CanJam it seems like they got feedback that it was a bit hot up top so I'm not surprised that it was tweaked since then. Though TBH I haven't confirmed the tweak with anyone behind the scenes.

If I get a chance I'd love to.

I’d say specialy you, more I listen to it, just get it… You don’t want to miss this one❤️🙋‍♂️

Don't think I'll hear that version any time soon.

The Can jam version is black ? 😂

Me too!

​@@SuperReview Been a day and so far I do love em, if you ever see this I do want to ask. Do you consider this far enough from Gaea to warrant buying that if I ever come across a deal? Noir seems up my alley too but that one I'm a bit hesitant to

It's normal that different people have different opinions.

Timmy also said he didnt like the tangzu Nezha and that is a very goood iem 🥴​@@Sam_l1f

It is. But not as engaging as say Hype 4 or others. More technical and clean but not as full

Looking at this graph on Squiglink, looks to me like he has the same production tuning I have.

Same production tuning as Mark's

But Timmy version on Squiglink has more upper mids and treble 🤔

im also that guy😓

Patina 🤌

You seem to be coming into this with some preexisting beef with Elysian, I don't think you've understood what I'm saying about it.

@@SuperReview I didn't say you badmouthed Elysian, I simply gathered what u said as a part of my buyer's research/due diligence. I don't have any beef with Elysian, I have pre-existing disappointment, not beef. There's a very important difference. Beef assumes I am out to get them, disappointment means they have disappointed the customer in the past. This is not beef, but ongoing observation as a customer on the company, evaluating whether I can keep giving the company the benefit of the doubt or not. Like I said, there is no beef, but there was higher expectation for change as this time it was mass produced with Eletech. My disappointment is only expected when the sales units now sound different, either due to QC or revision. Either one is just like the past, which is disappointing. Are you saying this is not disappointment and loss of trust, this is beef? For example, Moondrop refuses to acknowledge multiple dBs of channel imbalance calling it within acceptable perimeters. I likewise have no beef with Moondrop but I am not going to risk or gamble with channel imbalance. This is not beef, but protecting myself from misspending on products that have a high chance of being worse than expected. For example, if I trust a company with good QC and no revisions, it does not mean I am a mindless fan of them, it only means they are a brand I can trust. There is no beef, only ongoing observation and evaluation of trustworthy brands. I clearly stated that I came into this expecting their redemption arc. The fact that they disappointed me again does not mean I came into this with beef, it does mean that I become even more disappointed given that I thought this time there would be a low chance they could disappoint me.

Nothing says "I don't got beef" quite like 5 paragraphs of saying you don't got beef.

@@SuperReview But what beef do I have? You cited response length as evidence from what I understand, ignoring the content that explains clearly it's not beef. That is crazy. I had to write 5 paragraphs because you forced me to defend against false beef allegations. You made me write 5 paragraphs and you ignore the content and use response length to completely do it again! Why are you doing this? I write down my disappointments for any company if they exist. There is no targeted effort on Elysian. Why must you force the beef narrative down my throat. For what reason. I want to complain, you want to invalidate my complaint with a false accusation for some reason.

You sure sound like you have beef with Elysian when SuperReview clearly stated that what he heard was a pre-production unit and what he has right now is the production unit. Even Timmy from Gizaudio confirmed (in the comments here somewhere) that he has the similar measurements of the production unit, so it is clearly not a QC issue, but it seems like you strongly believe it is a QC problem? I guess you cannot please everyone when some people just refuse to accept what they believe is wrong. ("either way, can't trust his brand", "the only way you can guarantee buying a good IEM from this guy is if you buy the review unit" man is paranoid or what)

Deez nuts

🤣

You've heard both?

There’s no way you believe that 😂 sm4 isn’t even out yet. You’re going off of what a reviewer (who always hypes Simgot for some reason) said

I'm the same, I'd be fine with MMCX either but this connector is just too niche. I get it's technically better, but this also means you're locked into expensive aftermarket cables if you want a different termination.

@@blorg8206 there are pentaconn to 2-pin converters you can buy