A brief retrospective of some RPGMaker games 

Pinning a comment here to address the main comment I've been getting and a way to interact with that en masse, "Hey! You forgot (X Game)". Firstly, I didn't. With a few VERY niche exceptions I've heard of/played every game mentioned and have even looked into a bunch. In fact quite a few of the most prominent suggestions I very directly brought up in this video. But this isn't a history of the entire fucking RPGMaker Genre, no person alive or dead would be able to make that video. The title of "A brief retrospective of *some RPGMaker games*" is exactly what I was going for. That being said, I'm gathering a list for a sequel video later on down the line, so if you had a fOrGoTtEn GamE in mind, this would be the place to let me know. I may also passive aggressively remind people to check the pinned comment, if you're here from that, howdy. There's no ill will, just convenience, xoxo.

Funny how a lot of these games talk or use serious issues like suicide or abuse, and then Hylics is just there with "If you hate the moon I guess"

Not exactly a revelation here, but I imagine that so many RPG Maker games try to be weird and quirky to avoid association with the "lazily made stock asset RPG Maker game" stereotype. Notice how all of these games have very unique artstyles.

Brad is definitely a favourite character of mine, he’s such a flawed, messed up character, and his idea of ‘Redemption By Any Means Necessary’, definitely leaves something to be desired. But you can’t bring yourself to hate him, because you understand him, you understand why he’s like this and feel that his motivations are pure.

I really liked OFF’s puzzles, I’m a fan of the “physically write things down” kinda stuff in games

one shot still makes me emotional to this day, from the music to wanting to help niko to the best of my ability to the ending and what happens in it

A guy reviewing RPG Maker games that isn’t just gushing over Omori, One Shot, and RPG Maker horrors? In 2022? And is 3 hours long? Now this is what I call a VERY big gift to the RPG Maker community.

I remember being 11 and hearing about To The Moon in a game making focused summer camp. There was an entire week dedicated to RPGmaker, and the entire staff told us to use that game as an example. One particular guy was completely obsessed with Lisa, though, and he took a liking to me and my friend group. I ended up discovering my favourite game of all time, something that changed my life. I swear Lisa is perfect for any angsty teen ever, it helped me sympathize with my parents and their hardships and it made my sense of humor what it is today. I will forever be grateful for this game and the guy that told me about it, wherever he may be.

1:09:01 I agree 100% of how powerful this moment is. In my first playthrough, despite everything that had happened prior, I spammed defend just hoping I wouldn't have to hurt Buddy and when it set in that I had no other option but to fight I just stared at my screen for a solid minute before attacking.

I feel like OneShot gives you a full life recontextualization, like how Toy Story made a lot of kids want to take care of their toys more, because they *might* be alive, and I'd say it's the same for OneShot in terms of making you rethink how you interact with computers and machines. Even though it's obviously fiction, made by developers and artists, it feels authentic and pure, like you brought a guest into your home just by buying the game and playing it. If there was ever a way to replicate a personality with AI in a completely believable way, I'd wanna talk to basically *any* of the characters from OneShot.

I love Hylics and Lisa. Lisa absolutely broke me, I haven't been able to find a game to top it. it hits really hard for me due to my own personal experiences. if you want more lisa I highly recommend Lisa: The Pointless and Lisa: The Hopeful. game wise, I like pointless more than painful. experience wise, painful is my favorite.

OneShot so rarely gets mentioned in lists like this, where the emphasis is on the really striking and dramatic titles like LISA or Hylics, but it's just... It's a phenomenally warm experience. Bittersweet, sad at times, but eternally hopeful and full of joy at all times. It's soundtrack does so much to sell the setting and the story, and it's an experience I cannot recommend enough.

I'm so glad to see someone talk about Grimm's Hollow. I ADORE that game and out of every game you've talked about it's probably the least well-known and I think it deserves just a bit more love. It also holds a special bit of nostalgia for me bc I met my boyfriend through looking up the game on twitch and finding his stream lol

If you've fallen in love with this particular style, a game that I highly recommend is Space Funeral. It has a really bizarre eclectic soundtrack, lots and lots of really weird hand-drawn sprites, and your can blow through in about 3 hours, or 4 if you're really dedicated to sucking the marrow out of all the bones. It's a rare specimen, truly a labor of love with a lot of thought put into it. I highly recommend at least taking a look at it, and if you enjoy it, look for its unofficial(?) sequel, Earth Birth. Oh yeah, and also a fantastic video, as always. Edit: no, I'm not a dev, just a huge fan

"Do all of them benefit from going in blind? Immensely so! Maybe with the exception of Hylics." Yeah, that benefits from going in high.

Honestly, Niko is one of my favourite depiction of a child in videogames, they're is somthing that just doesn't usually translate well for me for these types of characters. I can't really reason this much aside of a general disinterest, yet Niko manages to come of as a very interesting character. I feel it comes from the fact of how as your role as an effective mentor is protective not in a "belittling" sense but in a "supportive" sense, as the Messiah grows as a person and is able to bypass a decision supposed to be the player's and tame the world machine on their own thanks to the experiences you both had on your journey.

Brief. I'm all here for it Now having "finished" (skipped OneShot since I own it and it's on The List), I really do like this type of quick look videos from you. Looking forward to potentially more of these like you briefly suggested. nicenice

If you roulette the whole gambling den to death in Lisa The Painful, you get some rooster mascot luchador character just so that you don’t have a party of only Brad.

Did a double-take when I saw OFF in a 2022 thumbnail, and now I see Hylics. Tonight's gonna be a dang good night. OH WAIT THREE HOURS THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WHOLE NIGHT DUDE WHAT

This was a bold take on this style and I believe it is one which has payed off handsomely. I have played all of these games (except Grimm's Hollow, but I intend to play soon-ish) and consider them all to be fantastic works of art, which make something inspired with tools which anyone can use. OFF is a founding father of this style of game conglomerate; which I would say walked so the others could run, but I would be lying as this game sprinted so the best of the best could match it. While time has caused the game to display some of it's rougher edges, it's style is so unique, and story so mysterious yet griping that it continues to be a pillar for the gaming landscape, while also functioning as a building block. Hylics is something which I value more as an experience and an art piece than a game. While the game is fun, it is the weird non-sensical world, word spaghetti dialogue, fantastic style, and "story" which make this game worth playing. Besides it's really cheep, you aren't losing much by giving it a shot. Mason Lindroth is a true master in his craft despite how strange it is, and I would highly suggest playing the sequel Hylics 2. It's much more of a game, and it's a really good one at that, combat has much more thought and meaning into it, strategies can be formulated and used, there is a story. The jump to 3D really showed what the artstyle could do, and made exploration legitimately fun. And wow the artstyle got even wackier, but in the same way more focused. If you ever do another one of these, (and you should this was fantastic), I would highly suggest giving Hylics 2 a try. OneShot is a fantastic exploration and deconstruction of videogames. The 4th wall is broken from the very start, leading to one of the few games with 2nd person interactions which have lots of meaning. The puzzles are some of the best stuff you will find, outside of a Professor Layton game, as it constantly alters the limits of "The magic circle" and finds new and unique ways of using the games presentation. The story is great, and the characters within it are highly endearing, Niko is one of my favourite characters period, and I got really attached to her and her plights. Simply fantastic. To The Moon is another fantastic "puzzle-exploration" RPG maker game, which tells a simple yet moving story. The small cast of characters really allows you to enjoy and understand them all on many levels, and the twists and turns throughout made me go from laughing to sobbing multiple times. A real highlight of a story. Lisa is one of my favourite games of all time. I believe it to also be one of the greatest games of all time, which shows the powerful stories which can be told through them, and how gameplay can make them even stronger. Ludo-narrative consistency is baked into every fibre of this games being, and it stands up strong for it. I could talk for hours, and write for tens of thousands of words on this game none stop, but all I can simply say is please play it. Please play this honest to god masterpiece of art. If you are two ever pick up on this type of video again I would highly recommend some of the fan games which came from this series, which at their best are one par with The painful. These include but are not limited to: "Lisa: The Hopeful", "Lisa: The Pointless" (With the second request that you check out the mod of this mod "Lisa: The Pointless: Scholar of the Wilbur Sin" as it is easier and contains more content in line with the original), and "Lisa: The Timeless". All these are really really good and that is all I wish to say. Now that I have said my two cents on all these great games, I want to congratulate you on this video. It is fantastic; you said what you wanted to say one each piece, for as long as you wished and your dry humour consistently got a chuckle out of me as I absorbed you points on the games. I would say for a first attempt you hit it out of the ball-park and would love to see similar videos in this style on different topics, as you clearly have a passion for what you cover. Editing was solid, sound was just right, and the script flowed from point to point with ease. Other than my recommendations above I would suggest also checking out "Space Funeral", "Ib", "Corpse Party", and "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: 7th Stand User" (Though I would suggest going in with a guide for the last one). Either way, thank you for experimenting and making this fantastic video, keep up the good work, and have a lovely day.

I am a HUGE lisa nerd. And I recommend these (in no particular order) Lisa:The hopeful Lisa: The Pointless Lisa: The pointless SOWTS (after you play pointless) Lisa the timeless There are more than this, but these are the best of the best.

Yume Nikki and Omori are exactly the games I was going to recommend, so it's neat that you beat me to that! Yume Nikki is probably the progenitor of the entire scene, and it's an interesting case in itself. Omori is one of the heaviest and most memorable games I've ever played. It's a huge time investment though, but definitely worth it. I'd actively avoid spoilers though since how it reveals its story piece by piece is one of the best things about it. There's a good selection here so I don't really have too much else to recommend beyond Space Funeral. It's perfect thumbnail material if you want to hook people on the weird. It's very much on the shorter side too, by the way, about a 20th of an Omori, easily. The other side of the RPGmaker game community are the Japanese horror games, such as IB and Aou Oni (which is so popular in Japan it has an actual feature length live action adaption), I haven't dived into them much beyond Ao Oni though. But, overall it's cool to see you pivot towards talking about lesser known games, that's always something that's nice to see!

Grimm’s Hollow is an underrated gem

I never went back to any zone in OFF my first playthrough, but I saw it in a video and I didn't know what it was so I went back in my save and it completely shocked me, the darker music with the weird baby enemies scared the shit out of younger me I haven't seen anything like it since

games for possible part 2 to this series (will edit if more come to mind): Suits: A Business RPG Suits: Absolute Power Mad Father Misao Ib Yume Nikki .flow Omori Mogeko Castle Space Funeral The Crooked Man The Witch’s House Toilet In Wonderland

2:18:53 The choice I made was also return home, and i made that choice because there was some signs that fixing the sun wouldn't completely fix the world, and between having a chance to fix the world and a guarantee to save Niko, I picked the guarantee

I just started crying at the discussion of taming. OneShot made me cry so much even just hearing about it in that way is enough to spawn some feelings

This is super ambitious, and I'm really impressed that you're attempting this. instant like just for the attempt and the OBVIOUS amount of effort you put into making a 3.33 hour long video, and this is doubly true because I already know a bit about some of these games and know that you had to do a ton of trimming to get it down to being that short.

On "Off", I love the various theories about the world that came up, as you could take things through so many different interpretations.

I feel like Lisa The Joyful was supposed to be a mindless murderfest powertrip fantasy that you can't look away from, like a horrible car wreck that draws your morbid curiosity as you drive past that's the vibe I got anyway

oneshot is my favorite game of all time, and I'm so glad you talked about It! btw, ling, the cafe lady, isn't actually...a lady. he's actually a dude! i made the same mistake when i first played the game lol

Honestly, Japanese horror rpg maker games could be in a video all on their own. They’re so many of them and honestly blow my mind with how they work with the engine.

Even within this genre, OFF feels super niche despite big youtubers like Markiplier playing it

When ever a creator says something along the lines of, "oh and you can use the chapters so you can watch this in multiple sittings", I take it as an indirect challenge to watch the entire video all at once. And that is how I have sat through 25 hour long video essays in one sitting.

I picked save the lightbulb and while it hurt a lot to do that I've had a personal rule where I cannot let my emotions dictate what I do.

Davey making video essays. I love it, you’re presentation combined with a content genre I really enjoy, I hope you stick with it

Few things spark dread in me as much as the knowledge that some person will be the last human, the last animal, the last creature alive in the universe before the gradual decay into nothingness save for the occasional photon… and dang if your review of OneShot didn’t bring that thought train roaring back. 11/10

Hylics really remembers me of Gingiva, the art and weird/random thins are very similar. Also, OFF has a fan game called HOME and for some people is better than the original game by a lot of factors so if you liked Off, please play it, I remembered the game for the "Dedicated to our beloved friend Felix, we miss you" sign

Man I LOVED this video. I like how honest and straight to the point you are, I liked your humor, and in general I really like how genuine this video feels. This is the first content I found out about you and I can't wait to see more videos in a similar fashion!

To The Moon has had a full nelson around my heart since i was 11, love seeing it get attention with all the eyes on rpgmaker recently. Great video!

Man I wish more youtubers did this longform content, great video encomassing some of this weird ass niche of 'quirky, indie, earthbound inspired RPG'. Hopefully there'll be a second part because I'd love to see you copy the wackier side with Space Funeral and Toilet Wonderland Also I definitely would recommend LISA: The Pointless as a first experience on LISA fangames, though only a demo, it really feels like official content, and just generally extremely well made

I personally really enjoyed this kind of video. I really hope you do more ^^

I would genuinely enjoy hearing you do more of these, its interesting to hear someone else talking about games i played so long ago and completely forgot about.

I just wanna say how much i appreaciate The length off this video and how it kept me interested The entire time and how well it was made and I would love to see another video like this.

Your analysis of hylics was perfect and incredibly accurate and very complimentary

I dig this video's concept very hard, and am here for the watch time, but it's gonna have to sit in my watch later list for a bit. It's been like 6 years since I played any of these games and I've just started deep dive of my own replaying a bunch of games in this "genre" and I like to go into things like that with a fresh perspective. (Also I never actually got around to Lisa the Painful during my old RPG Maker kick, and I want to go into it blind)

you can tell he really loves otters because his voice was like maybe an octave higher than usual

I've never seen your channel before, but just wanted to say I loved this video!

A RU-vidr I like making a video that mentions LISA, OFF, and other great games? In this day and age? Pretty based

LISA,Hylics and Off in the same video? Sir,you're a Chad

I keep coming back to this video with a smile on my face, and joy in my heart, because as a fan of these indie RPG's, this is one of the best videos on 'em. Ever. It's all just paced very well, it's direct and to the point, it touches on some parts I haven't noticed, it has a very simple but pleasant visual presentation with very, very little meandering and tangents, it covers a whole bunch of games I like, and it introduced me to Grim's Hollow, so there's really very little to nitpick, even if I tried. Despite how direct you are about a lot of the events, not softening the blow of any heavy moments, or waffling around the subject matter, you still approached the more sensitive topics (particularly in LISA, because it has probably the most messed up events happen) very respectfully and gently, and that is also very much appreciated. It just feels like a very adult take on these. I know plenty of people who would only really scrape the surface with "Look how weird this game is! Look how scary up this game is! Look how sad this game is!" sort of rhetoric, but this is a very pleasant change of pace. Thank you for uploading this video, I love coming back to it. :-)

Saving this to my watch later playlist since i am yet to play oneshot and i dont want to spoil it but I appreciate the work that goes into these 3+ hour videos, keep up the good work! :)

Davey posting a 3 and a half hour movie on my favorite niche genre while finals are going on?! Sign me the fuck up.

In case you are familiar with the Mother series, one fangame done in RPG Maker I highly recommend would be MOTHER: Cognitive Dissonance, not only for the interesting story and atmosphere, but for the well-rounded combat and all the secrets/optional stuff too.

666 chop delux unironically slaps tho. It is chaotic, but more in a "let me introduce you to something you will hear in your nightmares invading your dream about rainbows and butterflies" way rather then "LOL random" way. It has a charm and very distinct character and I dig it.

This is one of the best RU-vid longform videos out there right now. It's easily on par with PatricianTV in both production, ease of viewing and entertainment levels. Thank you for all of your hard work on this video, Davey! I'd love to hear your shockingly Mitten Squad -esque voice for MANY more videos in the future.

I realy love this style of content and can't wait to see more also that idea about doing it with a tower defense is a good one keep at it

Hell yeah! Two of my favorites, long ass videos and rpgs!

One of the best videos Ive seen in a loong time man, seriously. Keep it up!

As both a game dev and a gamer, this video was great. It has taken like 2 days to go through this whole thing but I did it! Thank you so much for making this. To the Moon is what got me into game dev in the first place and I just did do QA on the Lisa definitive edition, but now I really want to get into all these other story-focused RPGmaker games. This was great as a look into what else is out there! I have a full time job at a company (the one that published the Lisa definitive edition) but I've started working on a RPGmaker game on my own time. And between my job making games and making a whole game by myself, I don't have a lot of time to play. So really in-depth summaries paired with your analysis here was super helpful in letting me see what else is out there beyond just googling trailers or even trying to watch whole play throughs. I definitely wanna try out Oneshot for myself now! Anyway, this was a really long way of saying: "Video good and educational and I loved it. 10/10" I hope this format works for you too and that you can make more in the future!

This was super good!! You didn’t talk too slow or do the oOoOoO sPoOkY voice like I’ve seen in a lot of iceberg videos. This is the first time I’ve been genuinely called out by name in a video, genuinely spooked me 😭

- lisa is incredible and ive played it like 5 times - oneshot made me cry several times with multiple emotions and, for many reasons you covered perfectly, is one of my favorite games - grimm's hollow i have a love/hate relationship with. i played because i thought it looked cute and it subsequently left me an emotional wreck due to trauma 10/10 cant wait to watch the rest of this when i finish the other games!! if you do another vid like this id highly recommend the trio of mothlight, orogenesis, and soulscape (all made by samu) as well as alicemare, all of which are on steam and are genuinely amazing games!!

I really am happy you made this vid. Its good from what i've watched so far.

Dude love your stuff. Almost whatever you make I'll watch.

idk if you're still reading the comments on this video, but if you are; the term psychopomp is commonly used to refer to avatars of Death. I think it specifically refers to the beings who deliver your spirit from the living world to the land of the dead, but since the general idea of Death as a being has them serving that purpose anyway I think it works. I could have sworn TV Tropes had a specific trope for psychopomps who are affable and / or adorable, but I can't find it now. Also, love your videos! I've been marathoning them for the past couple of days, really glad I found your channel!

If anyone's interested in Hylics but don't like how overly nonsensical it can be, give Hylics 2 a try. It's generally a bit more cohesive, and has more going on gameplay wise.

Thanks to you, I gave a chance to Grimm's Hollow and I enjoyed a lot, keep up the good work!

I love this so much, its so interesting seeing a, basically, first time player’s analysis of these games!!!!

I'd love to see a video on Lisa fangames, Pointless and Hopeful are great, you might want to wait for Pointless tho since it's getting a update that adds and overhauls the game. but talking about Pointless as it right now would be good.

Lisa is probably the best game maker videogame to me. The world is engaging despite its limitations, the fighting is simple but fun, the humor is outstanding despite how restricted it is. But most importantly how well done Brads arch is. He’s the personification of “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” You can look at him as the good guy but he does more bad, but only does it to try and save someone who resents him. Honestly it really broke my heart my first play through and it’s really engraved itself into me

Hey thanks for the star wars scroll content warnings I love your videos but I had been avoiding this one because I knew it would have some topics I can’t listen to so the clear guide of which parts are and aren’t safe is really appreciated

Yo man I love you and your work. Keep it up. I aspire to be half as entertaining and creative as you someday, you're awesome!

Me waching this with my half attention: nice 5 minutes later: INTERESTING

Really fucking good video. Since you're looking for good famgames, I can recommend Lisa: The Pointless and particularly its fan-add on, Lisa: The Pointless: Scholar of the Wilbur Sin. Normal Pointless is a nice romp but a bit short, but Scholar of the Wilbur Sin extends it massively with several superbosses, triple the content, a second ending, a revamped combat system that encourages more move diversity and harder fights through increased action economy, and good fight gimmicks. I can only recommend a guide or two so that you can get all of the content, but it's really goddamn good.

ugh its been waaayy too long since seeing oneshot again. with my niko plush staring at me i couldnt help the feels coming back. wonderful vid!

The video was superb Davey. Honest and rigorous.

they’re not exactly in the same genre of rpgmaker games as these, but your turn to die and witch’s heart have had my fancy for a couple years. ayakashi akashi is also good, though it’s in very early stages. cat in the box is very nice as well!

*Knocks on door* *Lois Griffin opens the door* *Wayne from Hylics enters the house* *Lois gasps* "HOLY COW! IT'S WAYNE FROM HYLICS!" *Smashing sound is heard offscreen, Peter Griffin runs in* "HOLY CRAP! LOIS! ITS WAYNE! FROM HYLICS!" *Wayne from Hylics snaps his fingers* "What texturizes beside that biscuit? What texturizes the vent above my season? It is, actually, that "theory."

Oh god all my favourites in one video, instant subscription

I clicked on this video because I thought it would be interesting since a lot of rpg maker games seem to be my childhood and are inspiring me to make today. Then you said "the length of the video" and now I'm here for the LONG HAUL

Great video, Lisa and OFF are my 2 favourite games and Im always happy to see someone cover them. Also if you are wondering about lisa fangames then I would reccomend Lisa The Hopeful, Lisa The Pointless: Scholar of The Wilbur Sin (an upgraded version of the base Pointless but with many improvements and hours of new content) and Lisa The Timeless. Hopeful is the closest to the original Lisa, Pointless has the best gameplay and worldbuilding (especially with the scholar version) and Timeless is the best one when it comes to graphics and soundtrack.

honestly none of these games have resonated with me as much as lisa the joyful. i think a lot of abuse victims like myself have had that sort of power fantasy, making it so we become so powerful that we never get hurt again. i heavily resonated with buddy and completely understood why she did what she did, and it frustrates me that so many people dont understand her and immediately claim shes evil. what she did was wrong, but i understand and empathize with why she did it.

Bro what a fucking banger video, whenever I see people talk about games like these it's always over the top "These incredible games that will blow your mind !11!!! Aren't they just so cool and amazing!!!1!?". It's honestly great seeing such a down to earth, genuine look at these games. There's no feigning shock at the more indie and unique ways these games talk about tough topics or use unique game mechanics, just an admittance it's really cool and I think that's dope. Incredible video, keep it up.

loveee this video please make more like this!! deep dives are always a hit, niche creepy nostalgia is always a hit too, & you've got that youtuber x factor that'll have me finding you when you're relevant to my interests then returning even when you're not just cuz i love the ambience your voice & candence & humour brings

Being from Kansas City, I did a double-take seeing the name "Olathe" mentioned in the Lisa the Joyful segment and cringed at the pronunciation, which I'm pretty sure was the goal.

If you ever going to make a part 2 to this retrospective then you should cover more japanese RPG Maker games like the Black Souls games

Oneshot is my favorite game of all time, and will never change. Everything from the story, to the characters, to the environment, and to the music is just incredible. The game steered me towards the community, which improved my life for the better, and I often think about the game and the characters.

Loved the video, this was great

Going by only title to length ratio I've learned that "quick" equals 12 hours and "brief" is 3. Love the content Mr.Gunface.

Gotta say, I'm here because of the "brief retrospective but the video is 3.5 hours long", but that's kind of my jam anyway. That said, you definitely did a good job with all of that time. I don't feel like you wasted any of it, and it was a great way to spend my morning. Basically exactly what I'd like to have seen, going in.

Even though this is a month after release. This was a great video. I'm a huge fan of rpg maker games and have been for quite some time. I think my first one was probably either Yume Nikki in the early 2000s. But I love long form videos and somthing that is easily to just zone out and do work to and this is that. You gave me 3 and a half hours of somthing other than accounting I could focus on at work. Thanks much!

8:38 "Dr. Peterson, what’s your favourite colour?" "Well that depends on what you mean by favourite. And it also depends on what you mean by colour. This is a very complex question...one must acknowledge the underlying verisimilitude that is irrevocably nested within a multi-layered metaphysical substrate which many people fundamentally conflate with their ideological presuppositions with no uncertain irregularity, causing the inadvertent dismissal of Jung's archetypal extrapolation of the quintessential axiomatic juxtaposition required to achieve Raskolnikov's magnitude of Neo-Marxist existential nihilism..."

Truly a brief retrospective... To even think you could capture 1% of what makes games like these amazing amuses me to the highest degree. For they will forever have more depth and nuance than you could ever imagine in that brain of your. Whyyy yes I do like drinking red wine at night on my porch, how could you tell? /j

you've just reminded me to pick up and play through OneShot and Grimm. i'll have to grab those chapters after i play 'em.

I like this type of videos, keep it up!

"I always try to steer clear of jok3s that might be considered offebsive or in poor taste" - That war crime guy, 2022

Hell yeah Lisa, the life ruining experience!

Dude i love Grimm's Hollow. I've played all of the routes and loved every minute of it.

you invested me in btd 6 with the warcrimes video and im excited to see what this video has to show (thanks btw)

I am gonna skip Grim because i am still lying to myself that ill try playing it again someday... lets hope you didn't put all the best jokes into that one Also the "space monkey ending" in OFF was a response to people asking for an actual good ending from the developers. Not sure if that justifies it, but it is a thing.