With dine out, you can only order 1 drink and 1 food item. It won’t allow you to order appetizer, main course, and dessert. You can only pick one and a drink.
I’ve had the pack since launch and you definitely used to be able to order more than one course at the same time but that seems to have changed recently
@@Oliviamadison1 idk I’ve had the pack for a couple years now and it’s always been like that for me. So I just assumed that’s how it was supposed to be.
I think it would've been cute if the kids had one of those play pretend kitchen toys so they could pretend they own a restaurant with other kids or adult sims like their parents.
Oh yeah!! We had something similar in the sims 3! It was a small oven children could make muffins with and sell it in the street. It was so cute and fun.
They need to buy Carl's programming is what they need to do. Just give him every unearned dollar they have received from that game pack and consider themselves lucky someone swooped in and saved their asses.
The thing is i only hate that we have to hire chefs that are unskilled. Whenever a chef quits or dies, i have to hire a chef that is level 1 and my food quality drops. I thinl they have to give us a choice to hire expensive and qualified chefs. I dont like training them from scratch.
Being in Carl's Discord server, others have said 'you should work for EA!' and he has openly stated that the way he writes mods would not be acceptable in their workplace, and since I'm not him, I can't explain the technicalities of how he codes and how it is very different from how THEY code, but he has stated that basically, the code for how he fixed Dine Out would not be able to be used if he worked for them - he wouldn't have been allowed to write it in the way he did. I think more people need to realize that mod makers get freedom in how they approach tweaking the game - TS4 Devs are just chattle to EA... they are forced to work within strict guidelines, and oftimes all the bad things about a pack are because they were rushed, and restricted in their approach. I would highly recommend maybe reaching out to some of the mod-makers you like for an interview type thing! Not only would it be interesting, it would maybe help shed light (for the community) on how mods are made, and why they can accomplish things the game and its devs cannot. But for those who don't understand coding, I think an interview with someone like Carl would be great - maybe he could help explain in layman's terms how and why it all works.
That is a great idea for a video and sounds really interesting, I am really intrigued and would love to understand more about the technical side of mod creating too!
Had my Sim take his girl on a date and they actually stayed seated, got their food and drinks on time, even had a nice convo while eating/drinking. It was a miracle, literally- it was so cute. 😭❤
What you can't do with dine out is order the appetizer, main course and desert plus drinks in 1 go. You first have to do the appetizer and drinks, then order the main course and drinks and so on. Which with your sim that can't sit still in her chair or her date that just goes away is annoying.
Just tried it last night because of the “Night out on the Town” event was going on. Sims glitched 3x, wouldn’t stay in their seats even when chatting with each other. All my sims are 5 star celebs but when other celebs came to the lot, my sims glitched and had to reorder the food and drinks. After 2 hours REAL TIME, I just turned the game off.
@@kirasant maybe he didn't realize about that cuz for example, if he choose one dish before but after that choose another dish, the previous option will disappear. Just like him, I used to think there was error about this but realized after a few try
@@Alexandria.J.Barmer me too, this makes me loose interest with dine out so much. i have to use UI cheat to decrease my sims hunger, then order the next dish lol
I actually couldn’t play without dine out. I mostly use it as a patron not restaurant management. I had Carl’s mod for awhile and then took it out as its more for restaurant management than what I use dine out for. I do have a small mod called ‘faster restaurant cooking”. You also have to order each course separately. So once you finish your appetizer, then you order your main, etc etc. I alway just do a drink and a main or just go for desert as that usually takes a reasonable amount of sim time and I get the experienced I wanted, Sims going out to eat, pay, go home.
I think the bigger shame about eating as the customer (also how I use this pack) is my toddlers have absolutely no way to eat using it. I have to force my sim parents to give up their food to their toddler who will go sit far away to eat.
@@corabeaniyeah, I don't bother taking toddlers to restaurants, lol. In fact, after trying to make it easier to do stuff out with toddlers and infants I just realized it isn't worth it cause the game isn't built for it...far beyond Dine Out Toddlers are a pain to take anywhere and not for normal toddler reasons, so I limit trips with infants and toddlers to rec centers, parks, and libraries if it has a kids section. I won't even take them to feativals. So only kids go with me to restaurants on very special occasions 😂😂, the babies and tots can go to daycare or get a nanny. Dine out, I am pretty sure (it's a blur) came out before the toddler update maybe? Kids also can't always order from various vendor stations (like bubble tea, kids can't order from them) which annoys me more! Especially when I want to play with kids out with their friends and they can't get food at all without an adult there. Like a ten year old would have pocket money to order alone more than likely. They instantly get a cell phone when aging up, but can't order bubble tea....makes no sense.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I totally agree and understand. I do think toddlers and infants came too late to do a lot of activities within the game. Their gameplay can be borderline boring and kind of confusing when you age them up all the way through and still have no frame of reference what all they can do or why they talk to people outside their age groups. Or why say... Greg the big bad werewolf will befriend your wee ones.
@@corabeani They have activities its just very home based 1:1 play in the infant and toddler stages. And some of it is cute, but its very homebound and family restricted. Seeing as I lengthen all my life stages I do quite enjoy tots and infants overall. Even in real life taking babies and toddlers anywhere is an actual pain and what you can do as an adult is limited with a baby with you, so that bit is realistic anyway. If you can go out without the kids IRL, you will. Its just in-game the reasons why are different than real life, namely there is very little benefit to taking them out and less you can do with them outside the home vs in it. The closest you get to parent events is the toddler playdate which requires you knowing toddlers…which is hard when you don’t have things like Mommy and Me classes or places where other Sim parents are triggered to show up with their kids..and act like parents while there! Its not that hard for adult sims to meet other adult sims because it was designed as a young adult simulator anyway. Which is why a lot of people jump out of family life almost as soon as it starts because the game struggles with it. Us family players just power through it and work around the limitations. But even if you take your kids and tots to the park, there is a low chance of other parents showing up with their kids and tots. And half the reason of going out is not only adult sims socializing but kids meeting other kids (and I am using “kids” as a catch all term here for all non-adult life stages). A big thing I wish Sims 4 would add that was in past games is ‘invite household’ like if you knew a sim you could invite their household to your house even if you didn’t know everyone. So you could ask Sally Sim to bring over her son for a casual dinner and the kids could meet and play without any elaborate event planning. I have to go through hoops to get my toddlers and kids aquainted early in there life. At least I can use the club system for kids, you can’t with toddlers. So I find myself cheating the toddler over after inviting the parent and “pretending” mom and kid came together just so the two toddlers can start knowing each other and possibly turn into friends later. The fact that strollers just don’t exist show how uninterested Sims 4 is in the mobility of parents with small kids (infants and toddlers).
The best business type is the vet clinic bc there's actual game play where as owning a shop or restaurant is kind of boring bc it's just chatting to sims 😂
I don't understand Dine Out. Not only does it not work and frustrate players, but from a coding standpoint I have no idea why they went the route they did with it. Without getting into a lot of coding specifics, it's very complicated and works against the autonomy feature of the game. Why would they code it like that? For counter service dining they could have simply made a bar like item that served food instead, which would have been super easy to code and create the opportunity for simmers to make actual diners/fast food places. And for a sit down dining experience, being seated, ordering drinks, and ordering food should be one continuous interaction that a sim can multitask during (similar to writing a book, so they can still talk/eat/whatever while doing it) and then have the "staff" sims not have autonomy. Half of the glitches/hangups during weddings, parties, outings in general, etc. is that the NPC staff sims hired to run the event still have autonomy to do whatever they like instead of being a true NPC in that moment and following the steps of the event. And as for "owning" a restaurant, if it's not going to be a live career for chef sims and you're just the "owner" then there is no reason for you to go there on a regular basis. It should be passive income with occasional events (similar to For Rent without the bugs) where you get a bug infestation or fire or something and have to deal with it. That would make way more since than just standing there talking to people LMAO
It's weird but when I used to play sims I had a great time with Dine Out pack. The restaurants worked well and I loved the CAS and Build Mode that I'd use all the time for my sims and their houses
True, at first it functioned real well, but something messed up it up, and now it just bugs out, and who knows WHEN the food will come, lollz. It is like a one in how many chance it works.
agreed. it used to work but now its completely broken. that's what happens when the game just becomes a DLC simulator and none of the mechanics work together
So do the toddlers if you take them to one because they can't actually interact with having food. This is probably an oversight because toddlers came after this pack by years, but literally they forgot to add toddlers to it even as an "order for" option.
I genuinely don’t understand how they haven’t recalled or fixed this expansion…..every single person who bought it should ask for a refund so they understand that people aren’t ok with it.
Controversial, but I love Dine Out! I use the Women’s dress, female child’s hair, and men’s blazer all the time. Also mine never really bugs. I’ve not had issues the last few times I’ve played it. Granted I don’t tend to run them, I just use them as date locations. Also I use the build/buy mode for Every. Single. Build. Especially the plants, tiles and kitchen themed clutter items!
I’m so surprised. Dine out works for me. I don’t experience any of these problems. My only problem is when I have a party there and we don’t get seated together. But I can fix that by going as a group & choosing to sit together
EA should offer an option to refund the difference in price so it’s just a stuff pack since gameplay is so broken. For all packs that are like this, so all of them?
Building upon what Satch said: The build stuff is alright. I do use items from this pack quite a bit. However, the lack of veritle ownership or repeative interactions prevents me as a player from wanting to own a restaurant AND as the player I very RARELY take my sims to a restaurant to eat (due to wait times mainly). That's just my gameplay though. (I'm not really one that enjoys super repetitive gameplay, but you can look up JamesTurner's rags to riches to see the gameplay in a lot more detail.) Get to Work is better for a quick serve restaurant type due to selling displays that are coolers for the food. OR you can choose any selling table pack.
no but imagine if serving, hosting, or mixologist (would say bartender but it’s EA so they’d neverrrrr) were live careers your sims could do in a restaurant! would have genuinely been so fun and quite challenging (as a real life server and bartender, lmao.)
Is really funny that sims 2 players literally released a story progression mod that literally change the main core of the game, while sims 4 players need to release a fix for something EA should be doing.
i've always felt a bit like an outsider when it comes to dine out because it seems like everyone else is bashing it for being completely unplayable. i was disappointed because it was lacking in gameplay features but otherwise it run fine for me even on a laptop, besides maybe the annoying general performance issues like sims unable to resist the urge to play in a pile of trash or fainting after seeing a celebrity, to which you just get used at this point.
A LinkedIn page of Maxis' former employee suggests that The Sims 5, or at least its PS5 version, is no more. UPD: An anonymous source close to Maxis has confirmed to me that the rumor is false: the studio is still developing PC and mobile versions of The Sims 5.
My dine out is working. I found if you have any thing on the table nothing will be delivered to the table. So no lights, menus or plates and the orders would be delivered. But I just played today with no issues but try again. Use my restaurant called “power of love “ to see if it works for you.
The fact that this pack was released in this state, continues to sit at full price in this state, and is hard to get a refund for due to being in this state is sinful. Absolutely shameful.
A note for those watching this video, that this is before the patch coming before Lovestruck, which is supposed to have bug fixes for Dine Out. I hope it actually helps. Lol
It is good to see the review on this, even though it has been how many years since it came out - when it USED to work, lollz -, but I tried the buying restaurant option for the first time, noticed I never tried it, one of the days. I'm sorry to say, but I found it so boring. Forgot families and so, people known can't be selected, and pleasing customers and staff is fine, but my Sim not doing as much, just cleaning if needed, and telling whosoever options that could be selected, got boring really fast. I am glad to hear, and know there is a mod, for doing things around the restaurant, and it seems so much more fun. Might have to try it one day - taking in as I only just got my game to function, and before wasn't able to travel to lots/run a business actively. Was too long, VERY LONG loading screens. Not a great way to play. Have more freedom now...,for now, lollz 😅
Serious question but like how long can they keep dine out and wedding stories this broken before we'd have a legitimate cause for a class action. Because not being funny but how could EA argue that they are trying to fix this when its been years now
Forgetting about the fact that it doesn’t work, there are more features in Dine Out than Lovestruck or really any of the more recent expansions (which also don’t work). That’s really sad.
I just bought Dine out a few months ago, but bought it as a bundle through a very reputable electronic store here in NZ (genuine EA products) on clearance, I got 4 bundle packs (4 game packs and 8 stuff packs) for the equivalent of USD$36, so would have paid $3USD for Dine Out, so not overly sad, but I haven't actually loaded Dine Out onto game yet......think will also get the mod!
I just bought this dlc and it runs perfect for me 😳 like I’m even surprise that my sims just stays in the table the whole meal. Could it be cause I only have like 8 expansion packs ?
When it works; it's great! But Sims have deeply loved one game above all else; Musical Chairs. Sims will do anything or stop anything to play Musical Chairs.
For anyone who has this pack and wants a better experience, rather than trying to get refunded I recommend the dine out reloaded mod by carl’s guide. It makes the pack way less buggy when dining out, plus it gives you the option to play as the the chef or the host or the waiter. It’s free and easy to install and makes the pack actually playable. Sadly though this doesn’t fix the issue for console players or those who don’t or can’t download mods:( I wish ea would fix this pack but instead they will just keep releasing even more broken buggy packs. Ea only cares about a pack before ppl buy it, after they don’t care, they have their money, why fix it? Makes me so disappointed lol.
I really want them to refresh it... that and Outdoor Retreat. I can't complete the bugs collection because it always appears the same bugs. I can't remember the last time I saw a fire ant.
I'm so glad that I never bought this pack. The concept is a must have but they completely botched it. I totally agree it should be fixed or recalled with refunds.
Dine out been broken for years, I wish they would fix it. This is why I use Carls DineOut mod. And the Fact EA still showing Ads for this pack it diabolical...
And of course Carl is the one saving EA's ass, he should be the person responsible for allowing the packs to be released or not, because he knows how to fix the bugs, not like people who work there now who probably think 'code' is their bank account card PIN..
The waiters dropping the food gets me soo irritated 😆 I know they’re trying to be quirky and show how the sim has low skill but it’s sooo aggy especially when it’s the 2nd time the order glitched and never came and it finally comes and they drop it and it’s been 10 sim hours like omggg
At this point they should just pay off all the mod creators who have created all the fixes for this game since EA does not have any staff members with enough time to do it.
Working in restaurants and cafeterias in The Sims Mobile is even better😂. The game even have a designer career. The Sims 4 could never. Even when you visit a zone all lots are unlocked and you dont have to load every single lot
I geeatly dislike how this pack needs mods or specific funtions. This and the outdoors really needs the refresh, but they stopped after their first two attemps..
I'll disagree with you on CAS. As a male simmer, I use the waistcoat and jacket with tie a lot for my formal wear and party wear for adult sims. The full body female outfits function very well on adult and ever elder sims, something that is otherwise lacking. The CAS in this pack is indispensable in my view. Dining is thoroughly broken though. Thank f. for Carl and his mod.
Dine Out, or the Archetype of broken gameplay. If you want a refund, the request and all subsequent communications MUST be in perfect Simlish. That include having a conversation with you speaking fluent Simlish.
Wait, you’re able to actually order multiple things at once? I’ve only been able to order one thing and wait until it’s cleared then order another thing. I always just assumed this was how the pack was supposed to be lol. I could be wrong though.
i reallyyy wanted to buy this pack because it sounds so fun to have my sims go out and eat together but it'd be a terrible waste of money even if i download mods to make the experience bearable
Honestly it isn't so bad as a pack to have an extra date location. However, you cannot feed toddlers with it. They aren't included at all, so keep this in mind should you ever get it and want to take the family out to eat.
Yeah I was about to not get this pack because of the reviews, but it works for me. I wonder if they fixed for when you buy it but can’t fix it with updates??
@@jssfrk161 I think they update it little by little to be sure no big bugs or glitches happen, but overall as a whole the pack hasn't been updated like a refresh or better functionality. It has a lot of lagging and odd interaction. For example your toddlers cannot have food because toddlers were added after the pack came out which never got included. And when your sims get invited they must pay despite being the invited sim.
I have had no big issues with Dine Out, twice I never got served and it was because of the restaurant design it turned out. Got it from the gallery and plopped it in, tweaked a couple things in the build and it works fine. If you wanna do all three courses it will take forever especially since you order each separate. I never do all three courses, a drink and one food item is good enough for me. I pay the bill and leave after that.
12:20-12:30 I've wondered this too, why dont they just pay the guy who made the mod to fix it for them since they dont want to do it. This mod would of been great date night material or dining gameplay if it worked. I would of bought it and they keep making new shit instead of idk adding updates, bug fixes, like other games do?
Hi I have a question! So I don't have dine out. But I'm interested in the build mode stuff. Do the bugs affect wider gameplay or if you don't interact with restaurants is it fine? :)
Karen's are unreasonable and usually rude. You gave us very reasoned and polite reasons why Dien Out is trash. Nothing you said was overly critical or harsh.
Dude, really, you can only order 1 drink and 1 food item at a time. If you order again after ordering for the first time, it cancels your first order. I really can't take your review seriously this time since you got this wrong
