A cheesy puzzle!? Definitely not! - 4 Parts that drive you crazy!

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Alles Käse! - Four pieces of cheese that need to be packed in the wooden frame. Well, the last part just doesn't want to get in! Thanks to the precise cut, this puzzle is a great challenge! Worship the laser cutters!
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@astralblob 3 года назад

“Start with the corner pieces”, they say.

@edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 3 года назад

And continue with the corner piece then finish with the corner piece

@igorzigmaker5785 6 лет назад

Much easier than the Giraffe Puzzle

@Stjopa 6 лет назад

Zigmaker 😂😂😂

@alex-gb9iy 6 лет назад

Every puzzle is easier than the Giraffe Puzzle

@xclockwrkskinx 6 лет назад

I dont know. The giraffe puzzle was kinda hard.

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

@alex z That's it!

@Renville80 6 лет назад

Zigmaker Meh. I’ll take water from the Nile over the giraffe puzzle any day 😆

@Dan0saur 6 лет назад

It's kinda disappointing to see that the pieces (and 'cheese' holes) don't fit exactly. Of course that's not your fault, it's just unsatisfying to watch.

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

If you would have to align the holes the solution would be too easy. There would be not too many possibilities.

@ok-gs4fz 6 лет назад

It probably triggered someone's OCD if they have it

@chrisfilley1629 6 лет назад

The corners not being right angles is annoying too. It fits, but it just looks unsatisfying and sloppy.

@Dan0saur 6 лет назад

Oh, okay. Thanks for telling (:

@GabrieleMBest00 6 лет назад

ok Thats not really what ocd is lol

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

I just double checked the official solution. You can download it by using the link in the description. The both parts on the top are the same. The lower parts are oriented in a different way. Well, I think there exist at least two solutions that work! By the way, the holes do not have to be aligned! :)

@richardmattocks 6 лет назад

Mr.Puzzle thanks for the clarification. I’d have bet good money that the holes were a clue, just shows why I’m not up to your level of puzzle solving :) (love your channel btw) 😊

@MrCinnamonWhale 6 лет назад

There are 98,304 possible combinations. 4 choices for the first piece used 3 for the second 2 for the third And only 1 for the last Each piece has 8 orientations So 32 x 24 x 16 x 8 = 98,304 2 solutions Each solution can be rotated 4 different ways and another 4 for the flipped versions Technically there are 16 solutions for math’s sake For the number of orientations without using identical, but flipped solutions, take the 8 out of the original equation. 8 being the number of ways you can use the same solution. That equals 12,288 unique possibilities with 2 possible solutions. It’s still a lot though lol

@tirkentube 6 лет назад

what in the actual fuck

@Botamis 6 лет назад

I write this with love. It would be better to say "By the way, the holes do not have to be aligned!" Love your videos!

@clumsyjester459 6 лет назад

@MrCinnamonWhale: Your calculation is correct, but it seems rather error prone to mix orientation and permutation. Each piece has 8 orientations -> 8^4 The pieces have 4! permutations Total number: 4! * 8^4 Now we can ask, whether the frame is a perfect square. In that case, we can always group 8 of those configurations into a class of equivalent cofigurations. This reduces the number of "distinct" configurations by a factor of 8. Also, you did not consider the center of the square. For some configurations - especially the shown solution - we can get a case, where two diagonally opposite pieces touch on an edge (the horizontal one in the shown solution). By rotating both pieces slightly we could make them touch with their vertical edges. This should be counted as two distinct configurations. However, I suppose this doesn't occur on all configurations and therefore can't be computed by combinatorics, but instead requires exact knowledge of the pieces' geometry.

@johnlong2k9 6 лет назад

My OCD does not like this puzzle.

@FragileBadger 6 лет назад

Set Qesu me toooo

@nbshftr 6 лет назад

Not everybody has ocd, please stop using the term incorrectly

@ChozoSR388 6 лет назад

I _don't_ have OCD, and the pieces not fitting in the corners gets my hackles up...

@capturingdesign6101 6 лет назад

Its lasercutted

@johnlong2k9 6 лет назад

Well I do so fuck off.

@joselinabueno7142 6 лет назад

I swear I would be the only fool to try and match up the holes. Fantastic video by the way! Always puts a smile on my face when I see your notifications pop up.

@joselinabueno7142 6 лет назад

Glad I am not the only one!! :)

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Wrong approach this time! :P

@joselinabueno7142 6 лет назад

Ya I realized really soon that was not going to slide! Right when I got your notification my cat started laying on my chest. It is difficult to type this response .

@stumbling 6 лет назад

Don't be silly, they aren't from the same cheese! :P

@jembee491 6 лет назад

Ik I was thinking the same thing

@addityasinghal897 6 лет назад

First of all, we have 2 ways to arrange each piece. top side up, or bottom side up and that with 4 orientations each. so that's 8^2 for 2 pieces and 8^3 for 3 pieces. Why 2,3 and not 4 due to only 1 right angle, you'll see later. Now when I look at this puzzle, i am seeing that at least 2 pieces, might they be in any orientation, fit together in this. Thus the 8 orientations of a piece. Now choosing 2 pieces from a set of 4 is 4!/2!2!=6 ways. Arranging them in any of four spots is 4x3=12. So total ways of trying in a *best case scenario* in which you realize after putting just 2 pieces in 8^2 ways that it is wrong or right, is *(8^2)(6)(12)=4608* !! viola!! Although if you want, you could divide by 4 for rotational symmetry purpose = 1152 possibilities. if you consider the *worst case scenario* , in which you put at least 3 pieces before realizing its wrong then it will be *(8^3)[C(4,3)](3!)=(8^3)(4)(6)=12288* . consider rotational symmetry and 12288/4 =3072 ways!! Done *(I am excellent with combinatorics and I have tried the puzzle fitting in 2 or 3 ways myself. Hence my conclusion!!)* Also if you do 1 try in 10 seconds, it'll probably take you 7-8 hours for getting solution with worst luck possible. Thanks for not tl;dr ing this

@Heathenfidel 6 лет назад

Why would you try different ways of choosing the first 2 pieces? You could just start with the same 2 pieces each time. And when you mention dividing by 4 for rotational symmetry, you are forgetting about flipping. So I think the time estimate should be more like 35-40 minutes. Actually, I also think 10 seconds per attempt is unreasonably long. If you try all possible positions for the third piece for a given arrangement of the first 2 pieces, it doesn't take 10 seconds to try each position of the third piece. So I think that with a very methodical search for the solution, it could be done in less time than it took Mr. Puzzle.

@robertgomez5378 6 лет назад

If you consider each piece to have 4 different ways to arrange it on each face and each piece has 4 possible corners to be put in. Then the very first piece you place has (4)(2)(4) different possibilities. After you place the first one you can arrange the rest of the pieces in 3! different ways, but that's without rotating or flipping so again we have to multiply each piece by 4 and by 2. So (4)(2)(4)(3!)(4^3)(2^3) = different combinations. I am aware this number would be correct only if all the pieces were to physically fit in every given order. And I also don't know how to simplify for rotational symmetry but I believe this is closer to the real approximation.

@keinplanvon 6 лет назад

Additya Si, if at the worst scenario you realize that after 3 pieces the 4th would not fit, surely you wouldn't have to try to test all of the 8 possible settings for the last part, but you mustn't forget about them, the fourth piece has to be included in the calculation, otherwise you had to withdraw all other impossible solutions, that's not the name of the game. And you've forgotten about flipping the whole puzzle upside down. Yes, I nearly forgt about rotation symmetry My calculation for this is quite nearly the same as yours, assuming the inner frame is a perfect square, rotation and flipping symmetry can be crossed out, it's ((4×2)^4 × 4!) ÷ (2×4) = 12288 the number of permutations you've calculated earlier in your posting. If it's an assymetrical frame, it'll be just 8^4×4! = 98304

@mcburberry4705 6 лет назад

Additya Si I

@isaiahstokes7858 6 лет назад

Y'all boys out here wildin

@jeidun 6 лет назад

Laser-cut wood..... FINALLY!

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

😂😂

@jeidun 6 лет назад

Flying Flurrox I also watch William Osman and Peter Sripol

@horstgunther9521 6 лет назад

RoastymyToasty yeah great he learned it, but it looks more like plastic ;)

@Stettafire 4 года назад

Actually doesn't Wintergarten have some lazer cut wood on their MMX?

@NKCubed 6 лет назад

You should have made it so one of the corners went into the cheese hole on another piece!

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

This would limit the variants a lot.

@trentelliott1795 6 лет назад

that would make me cringe so hard

@3dpprofessor 6 лет назад

This is what I was expecting.

@traviantist 6 лет назад

Do you notice where the side holes are ? Middle area, which require the next piece to be in X instead of + (juxtaposed)

@real_g0att467 6 лет назад

Antichrist, not okay man haha

@yumivt 6 лет назад

Can you make a video showing the official solution? It looks cleaner in the PDF.

@christymyers4558 6 лет назад

I just absolutely watch these because listening to him is just ridiculously mesmerizing. Im not one for puzzles per say, but I love watching him dive into solutions and speaking. all he would have to do is talk and I would watch his videos.

@AnonYmous-mc5zx 6 лет назад

Nyet! Get the hammer!!

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Naaahhhhh, no hammers anymore! :D

@notdead5458 6 лет назад

Anon Ymous Lol, Russian.

@u.v.s.5583 6 лет назад

A real Russian would: 1) Get the vodka, 2) Use the interfering corners as Zakuska, 3) Eat the rest of the puzzle, 4) Get asleep at the table with the Giraffe puzzle. Unsolved, naturally.

@zozzy4630 6 лет назад

0:32 "And the target of the puzzle is- we need to fit all of these four parts inside of the frames, getting flush with the height of the frame." *Sees solution* wtf

@aapjew18 6 лет назад

What's wrong with the solution?

@jamiedickinson4079 6 лет назад

Willem Maas "Flush"

@WeavesWorldOFFICIAL 6 лет назад

I hear ya. The holes didn't even match up. That surely can't be the solution.

@kevinbroussard9184 5 лет назад

@@WeavesWorldOFFICIAL it isn't the right solution. However, even on the official solution, the holes still don't match up but the edges of the pieces are flush and the pieces are all tilted at the same angle

@SnakeTwix 3 года назад

@@WeavesWorldOFFICIAL Makimg the holes line up in such a puzzle will make it a lot easier. Those holes were probably never intended to match

@dafire9634 6 лет назад

ITS YA BOI MR PUZZLE,BACK WITH ANOTHER VIDEO

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Yeah!

@onesagotoomany 6 лет назад

12288. 4! = 24 ways of putting the 4 pieces in corners; each piece has 4 rotations x 2 sides (i.e. 4! x 8 x 8 x 8 x 8 = 98304); but ÷ 8 because the frame can be any way up, and is isomorphic under reflection. That's excluding the small rotations needed to solve it, which are continuous, and so make it infinite.

@babasemka 6 лет назад

The frame is symmetrical, you don't need the "4". BTW, 4x8x8x8x8 is not equal to 98304. rip

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

The frame may be isomorphic under reflection, but technically that doesnt change the fact that each orientation of the solution is still a different solution. Technically all the pieces fit and are in different positions relative to you (the viewer) making 8 different solutions. So there are 98,304 set possibilities

@juicyboi2923 6 лет назад

The Crafted Warriors that is not true its 65536

@hpekristiansen 6 лет назад

@Akai Nishin: Congrats - the most elegant and correct solution. An other way(without dividing by 8) is to assume a specific piece in a specific corner with a specific side up. (3! x 4 x 8 x 8 x 8)

@MrSupermarcianito 6 лет назад

In true, there are many mathematicians here. With me there are n + 1. 🙂🙂🙂

@NitschLorand 6 лет назад

Interesting solution - never expected to fit the pieces with more than 90 degrees angle on the corners. :) A second solution would be this one: flip every piece upside down and put them inside mirroring the current solution.

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

You are right!!!!

@junbh2 6 лет назад

To me this is the same solution, though :)

@chinareds54 6 лет назад

You're making the assumption that the empty space is a perfect square. Without having the actual game in front of you, you can't be sure if the quadrilateral might be slightly off from a square, just enough to prevent rotation/mirroring.

@NitschLorand 6 лет назад

You're right, I never thought about that it isn't a perfect square...

@icecubegaming3661 6 лет назад

the total combinations are 863,040. what I did is like one piece has 2 faces and each face can have 4 orientations , that means each face is equivalent to 8 unique figures, and we have 4 of them, that counts to be 32, now we need to select any four of these 32 to get in the box at a time i.e 32C4 and u can arrange them in themselves too, i.e 32C4*4!, which finally gives the result 863,040

@pokemonmaster1799 6 лет назад

IceCube Gaming quick maths

@kaloan999 6 лет назад

That is incorrect. You are counting impossible ways of placing them due to the fact that WLOG let's consider the first 8 elements the figures of the first piece the 2nd 8 the ones of the second.... the forth. You are including possibilities of selecting more than one of the first, and/or second and/or third and/or fourth group. So that is a lot more than it should be. Correct way would be to pick one of all 32 figures - (32 1) = 32. For the second one we can pick of only 3 remaining groups, i.e. 24 figues - (24 1) = 24 , then (16 1)=16 and (8 1) =8. Now due to the multiplication principle we multiply the results and get 32*24*16*8 = 98304.

@kaloan999 6 лет назад

You should multiply by 4! not just 4. Imagine one placement of pieces. Multiplying by 4 is like saying "Hey I can rotate these pieces!" you let the pieces have the same "partners" on their clockwise and counter-clockwise sides (or you could just call it left and right sides). However imagine this. In our original position I switch the upper right one with the lower right one. Now I get a new placement that I did not account for. The multiplication by 4! is something standard for combinatorics as you can imagine each of the places as let's say boxes in a row. If I now ask the question, "In how many ways could I arrange the pieces in the different boxes?" the answer is the rather obvious permutation of 4 elements(or whatever the proper wording would be in English), which is 4!.

@mercymuttt 6 лет назад

I love watching your videos before bed. They’re so relaxing!

@muskyoxes 3 года назад

how could this not be called "who moved my cheese"?

@chandlergratton1682 6 лет назад

This puzzle is so much more simple than people keep saying... yes it has 4 corners, but that doesn't matter because it's a square, the solution will fit regardless of orientation, or even if you flip it upside down or backwards. You have 8 orientations per piece, and 3 possible patterns (red diagonal from white-orange diagonal from brown, etc). There's 12288 combinations if you don't count rotating the puzzle as a different combination, and most of them can be instantly thrown out if the first two pieces don't fit.

@jexikavindictive 6 лет назад

Your videos help my anxiety at night a lot. Thank you so much!

@miriion 3 года назад

I’m no mathematician, but I think there is more than one solution.

@FeterPrahm 3 года назад

Well at least 8

@olligobber 6 лет назад

Each piece has 8 orientations (4 rotations one way up, 4 the other), and there are 4!=24 ways of positioning the pieces, which gives 98304 arrangements of the pieces. However, rotating an entire arrangement or flipping it yields an identical arrangement, so we counted each arrangement 8 times, so there are 12288 arrangements to check. These could be checked by fixing the orientation (but not position) of a particular piece, and trying all 8x8x8x24 combinations of orientations of the three other pieces, and positions of the 4 pieces.

@abhijiths5237 6 лет назад

I think the comment section has many mathematicians

@MisterHunterRow 6 лет назад

I know, right?

@vhonbautista7157 6 лет назад

Except for the one comment that I saw talking about the Hammer that solves the puzzle 99.99%. I think he/she is not a mathematician but a Carpenter

@razerage1 6 лет назад

We need big syaq

@myman8336 6 лет назад

Abhijith S They watch Rick and Morty

@IVORY123100 6 лет назад

LOOOL .. That's right .. Master Carpenter here .. WE spend our time riddling out blueprints and going on Easter Egg Hunts all the time .. Puzzles are part of our job and the solution many times is just smashing it together !! Problem solved !!

@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 6 лет назад

When he said "The pieces are made of..." I would have loved to hear "cheese"

@steeqhen 6 лет назад

Are you sure that's the right solution? the pieces seem like they fit on accident

@ArtemGlue 6 лет назад

Sten Mashups I think that's the point, it's what makes the puzzle more difficult, you wouldn't think to put the pieces in that way.

@richardmattocks 6 лет назад

Sten Mashups id have thought the orientation of the holes was part of the puzzle. I think there must be a more elegant solution but I can’t deny the one shown does work! :)

@blargo 6 лет назад

Puzzles like this where you have to force a piece through a choke point are pretty unsatisfying. You can see in the final shot of the assembled puzzle some of the piece corners are starting to chip out from the rough handling required to coax them into position.

@-danR 6 лет назад

Blargo They are satisfying to me because they represent what is best in a _perplexing_ puzzle, they defeat the mind's propensity for finding solutions based on assumptions of platonically ideal elements that need nothing more extracting the optimum from permutations of rotations by some explicit or intuitive application of algorithms. No, the pieces have to be actually handled and played with and fiddled with. You cannot eyeball the solution. Unfortunately, it means the video is also useless until you actually _do_ look at the solution, unless you have the puzzle yourself.

@Tahgtahv 6 лет назад

Until he got to the end, I was SURE the solution was going to require some corner of a piece going in the indentation of a cheese hole.

@kaylen2099 6 лет назад

i love your videos so much i hope you make many more!

@YvonneWilson312 6 лет назад

My puzzle from Puzzlemaster arrived at the weekend and I am delighted with it. The quality of its manufacture cannot be over- emphasised - it really is superb. I have not solved it yet and of course I have not watched the portion of this video after the spoiler break! It's a great little finger fidget that's rather more constructive than most and I really love that! Thank you Mr Puzzle!

@dillondebruv8377 3 года назад

What type of cheese do you think it is? I’m going with Swiss. If you have different opinions or think that each piece is a different cheese, please let me know.

@davesstuff1599 6 лет назад

It looked huge till you put your hands around it. Lol

@dolium-dwarf3417 6 лет назад

512 variations (4⁴ for four pieces being able to be put into 4 different positions on one side, then you multiply that by 2,for the pieces having two sides.)

@kalloused 6 лет назад

This puzzle would have drove me nuts because I would have expected a perfectly fit puzzle with matching pieces and holes. I wouldn't ever had settled for a soultion like this.

@kimosaber9937 6 лет назад

For the single piece it's 32 different position.....the second piece is 24... The third one is 16.... The forth is 8.... This gives us about 32*24*16*8 which equals 98304 combination

@babasemka 6 лет назад

LMAO 32... pghhgahahahaha I'm dead

@kimosaber9937 6 лет назад

Why dead?

@ljackson4574 6 лет назад

Kimo Saber cuz its wrong

@kimosaber9937 6 лет назад

L Jackson.... It's 100 % right

@HabNickz 6 лет назад

yes, it's right!

@alicecroquette9876 6 лет назад

not OCD friendly puzzle indeed. it grind you so hard

@checkmate2489 5 лет назад

Obsessive-compulsive disorder is a DISORDER, not a quirky personality trait or a slight annoyance, not an adjective or perfectionism. It can severely affect someone's life and it's not something you should use to describe being annoyed because puzzle pieces don't fit in the corners perfectly. Take mental health and obsessive-compulsive disorder seriously, for the people who actually were diagnosed with the illness.

@joevitaebella 3 месяца назад

I just purchased this puzzle and I actually found 3 different solutions that work😁

@kyleguajardo 6 лет назад

Wow, thanks youtube for bringing me to this channel. You're really cool Mr. Puzzle!

@slonth 6 лет назад

Peal the stickers off and stick em back on in the right place

@gorillaau 6 лет назад

Seth Likes Things Or break the corners out of the frame and reassemble the puzzle.

@4jspa286 6 лет назад

Seth Likes Things this ain't a rubiks cube

@Stettafire 4 года назад

but when people do that the stickers get all gross and messy Ewwww D:

@trishabayley6669 3 года назад

@@4jspa286 ahhh rubiks cheese

@4jspa286 3 года назад

@@trishabayley6669 lmao

@rikkiegieler5638 6 лет назад

2*4 for the first part (the frame is rotationally symmetrical) the second can be in 1 of the 3 corners left: 2*4*3 the next one in one of the 2 left: 2*4*2 and the last one has to go in the last corner: 2*4. Calculating the product of this gives us 24576 combinations. (You could argue that the first can be in one of the four corners to give us 98304 combinations)

@davidmallo8815 6 лет назад

Rikkie Gieler whaattt !!😂😂😂 you're going mathematical

@-danR 6 лет назад

I don't think any _exact_ calculation can be made for this puzzle, given the fact (which I suspected from the beginning) that it's solution doesn't involve exact alignments and frame space-filling.

@rikkiegieler5638 6 лет назад

Dries Van heeswijk what do you mean?

@SehrGoose 6 лет назад

4 different rotations of the shape and 2 sides. 2*4 = 8. There are 4 pieces which mean you have to do 8*8*8*8 = 4096 different possibilities. I have no idea what you are calculating but if you are calculating all the different arrangements, I'm not sure it is correct. [EDIT] I am no maths genius. If I am wrong don't take my comment as an insult.

@slma0th 6 лет назад

@Nathan, That's the number i came up with as well.

@mars42069 6 лет назад

Hell yea, my boi Mr. Puzzle, back at it again

@kipperkell 6 лет назад

am I the only one who got goosebumps each time he would touch all four corners of the frame and center it?

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

This sounds soooo strange! :D

@ohgod_itstoast 6 лет назад

There's at least 2 variations

@umnikos 6 лет назад

Michael Morris True mathematician right here

@RoderickEtheria 6 лет назад

If the setting is actually a square, there are at least 8 solutions.

@bubba7578 6 лет назад

This isnt club penguin

@kenzo8096 6 лет назад

Nothing is club penguin anymore

@dragonstar2842 6 лет назад

hmmm this puzzle must have more solutions, because I found one that makes all the holes in the sides of the pieces actually match up.

@benth162 6 лет назад

I like that you called them by their name Tangram. My father gave me one about 45 years ago made out of Titanium, and the eight pieces could also be turned forward or backward. It is still my treasured keepsake. He died three years ago, but knew of my curiosity as a young man. I like your videos - Thanks !

@holtz6685 6 лет назад

Mehr deutsch kann man kaum englisch sprechen😂 fire ich

@iamgroot4841 6 лет назад

DasIstKeinName das macht keinen sinn

@valiox7506 6 лет назад

DasIstKeinName lern Deutsch

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Muss man auch erst mal schaffen! :P

@m.p.juggler7250 6 лет назад

Watch “The Post Apocalypse Inventor“ Videos und behaupte das nochmal

@theyanimationstation5754 6 лет назад

Lol

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

Each piece has 8 ways to fit, 4 rotations on the front and 4 on the back. The first piece has 4 places to go. 8*4. The second piece has the same 8 rotations, but now it only has 3 spaces to choose from. 8*3. The third piece has 8 orientations as well, but now only 2 spaces to fit in. 8*2. And finally, the last piece still has 8 possibilities, but only 1 space to go into. 8*1, or just 8. You find yourself with 8((8*4)(8*3)(8*2)), or 8((32)(24)(16)). This leaves you with the final result of 98,304 possibilities. (Trust me, I’m good with math)

@hpekristiansen 6 лет назад

@The Crafted Warriors: Why do you write "Trust me, I’m good with math" - what purpose does it have - other than make you look stupid. Your final solution is the same under rotation and flipping, so you need to divide your answer by 8. - giving 12288.

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

I said (trust me) so that all the frickin 5th graders doing 4x4x4x4 can look and understand that I know what I’m talking about and will be more inclined to trust my answer. Also, on a side note, I get what you’re saying with the reply, but even though you may just be rotating one of the possibilities 90 degrees to the right, all the pieces are in a different position in relation to the viewer, so by extension, it is technically a whole different orientation all together. So im sticking with 98,304 :/

@hpekristiansen 6 лет назад

You are correct. -but counting in that way means that there are 8 solutions for each unique way to solve(show me one and I can easily show you seven others).

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

Yup.

@hugh6025 6 лет назад

"the crafted warriors" "fricking" ":/" "trust me im good with math"

@SiamMandalayWoodenPuzzles 6 лет назад

Looks like a great puzzle!

@tygrahof9268 6 лет назад

These kind of puzzles are why I am a contractor; with many wood working tools. It is amazing how easy these puzzles get, when introduced to my chop saw.

@deyesed 6 лет назад

Tyg Rahof it's also amazing how easily you can rob yourself of the thrill of overcoming a challenge.

@raszop 6 лет назад

I guess this is not right solution

@bzerkie3393 6 лет назад

raszop I thought that. It doesn't look right

@vorname_6856 6 лет назад

raszop Your Pic is on my old school bag

@junbh2 6 лет назад

+BzERK IE That's on purpose, I think, to make the puzzle harder. Because you will keep trying and trying to make the corners 'fit' the frame, and make all the edges meet. But the total area of the pieces is smaller than the area in the frame, so there must be gaps. The puzzle makers put the gaps in places you don't expect, to confuse you.

@seppstarthebest 6 лет назад

actually this would have been my first approach, too - look for rectangular corners in the pieces and dismiss all other positions... just to find out... one eternity later... that it is probably impossible to find a solution then ;)

@illogicalbear6200 6 лет назад

4 rotations, on two side orientations, in four different corners, for all four pieces that's 128 possible variations, many of which you will probably repeat, as they aren't exactly the easiest to keep track of. Any other factors I missed? Let me know and I'll update and edit.

@user-jh3kz7dp2z 6 лет назад

can't there be more than 4 rotations?

@blue_tetris 6 лет назад

You can't have any one piece in the same position. So even though there are four corners, it would be impossible to put more than one piece in a corner. You need to use combinatorics to calculate the answer.

@tpfarr6146 6 лет назад

Brian Halphin I

@szefron 6 лет назад

Ok so you can always fit at least 3 and there's only one combination when you can fit 4. 2 rotations on 1 side, 4 corners, 3 pieces and 2 sides. 2x4x3x2 = 48 48 + 1 combination when you can fit all = 49. This is the logic calculation. If i did something wrong, tell me :P

@szefron 6 лет назад

Aaa edit. I forgot it doesn't need to be set in 90 degree angle. so it's 4 rotations instead of 2 4x4x3x2 = 96 96+1 = 97

@wisnuhn 6 лет назад

satisfying video as always :)

@quitefranklybb 6 лет назад

Quite clever!

@nono2299 6 лет назад

that puzzle is not so hard!

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Therefore it's only a 3/5.

@sez9939 6 лет назад

NoNo DaEnie .

@111455 6 лет назад

we should see him solve life, iv'e barely got the first couple pieces in place ( i think)

@TheVampire120 6 лет назад

NoNo DaEnie yes, is wood no metal

@nono2299 6 лет назад

+Mr. Puzzle, 3/5? No dude, this is more like 1/10... even a child can solve it just by attempts and accuracy method!

@PazuChill 6 лет назад

I'd guess it's 32*24*16*8 combinations, so 98304. But I'm no mathematician, so it's probably horribly wrong lol.

@-bbzbdo5984 6 лет назад

ZGoten it would be 4*4*4*2 Four pieces Four corners For rotations Two sides

@PazuChill 6 лет назад

I don't think that's true. Once the first piece is set, you have only 3 corners for the next piece, then only 2, then only 1.

@-bbzbdo5984 6 лет назад

ZGoten that makes sense

@kimosaber9937 6 лет назад

98304 is right....i agree with you

@hpekristiansen 6 лет назад

-and then divide by 8 because the final puzzle can be turned and flipped. Giving 12288.

@eskimoprime09 6 лет назад

A quick 10 second calculation led me to 98,304 combinations: First piece has 4 locations, 4 orientations, and 2 flips. Second piece would have 3 locations, 4 orientations, 2 flips. Third piece has 2 locations, 4 orientations, 2 flips. Last piece has 1 location, 4 orientations, 2 flips. Simply multiply all them together, right? I'm pretty sure math is good here.

@JamesSpeiser 4 года назад

surprisingly counterintuitive from first appearance! great job

@Blueberryyymuffin 5 лет назад

IT’S WOOD?! 😱I wished I knew that before I made my mom a sandwich. 😭

@prsm3 6 лет назад

I am from germany

@iamgroot4841 6 лет назад

Zitrone250 ich auch

@-danR 6 лет назад

Alles Käse 🧀

@prsm3 6 лет назад

Ja wa

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Ich auch!

@alex-gb9iy 6 лет назад

I am from Ukraine

@plomien1234 3 года назад

You make it more compicated than it is.

@CHOPERUS23 6 лет назад

Was that the final solution you found?

@0hate9 6 лет назад

There are 80 possible solutions (4 sides, top and bottom, and then 4 possible locations for the first piece, 3 for the second, 2 for the third, and 1 for the last). EDIT: It's actually even fewer than that because the above calculation includes rotated versions of solutions, which one would likely not need to try if the frame is a proper square.

@tagged123 6 лет назад

you are adding though 32+24+16+8, it's actually 32*24*16*8 :)

@chloegriffin6369 6 лет назад

256 different ways to solve it

@grimpa98 6 лет назад

I love how every doesnt realize alles käse directly translates to everything cheese in english i love the vids keep up the amazing work

@ihatealmosteverythingequal820 3 года назад

I wish it would have hints like connect the open holes to circles

@jaggns5774 6 лет назад

Ob des jetzt Alles käse heißt oder Des macht kein Sinn, is mir doch Wurscht.

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Alles Käse!

@tatethow9254 6 лет назад

Err.... translation pls?

@totalytaco3715 6 лет назад

my calculations say 192 different possible combinations

@saopy 6 лет назад

1048576

@totalytaco3715 6 лет назад

how'd you get that?

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

Not exactly correct. Each piece has 8 ways to fit, 4 rotations on the front and. 4 on the back. The first piece has 4 places to go. 8*4. The second piece has the same 8 rotations, but now it only has 3 spaces to choose from. 8*3. The third piece has 8 orientations as well, but now only 2 spaces to fit in. 8*2. And finally, the last piece still has 8 possibilities, but only 1 space to go into. 8*1, or just 8. You find yourself with 8((8*4)(8*3)(8*2)), or 8((32)(24)(16)). This leaves you with the final result of 98,304 possibilities. (Trust me, I’m good with math)

@micky2be 6 лет назад

Technically the first piece has only 1 place to go. And only 1 face. The frame is a square, all places are the same. One face or the other will only dictate which face the other pieces need to be placed. So only rotation count for the first piece, therefore only 4 possibilities. For the other pieces you can apply your logic

@sillychinas 6 лет назад

The Crafted Warriors forgot about the isomorphisms between the two. For any orientation, there are 7 others exactly like it (pieces in rotated corners and also everything mirrored) This makes for that number divided by 8

@Martin-se3ij 3 года назад

I find they all fit in if you stack them on top of one another.

@MrOnionRing 3 года назад

This is the first video of yours where I actually had to say stfu on the into and skip to the end... and skip again when I realized the intro wasn’t over.

@deans6571 6 лет назад

Sorry but this is NOT the correct solution. Surely all the holes on the sides of the pieces of 'cheese' need to align up?

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

No, this is not part pf the solution.

@ralu9433 6 лет назад

Theyre different cheeses, not one goant multicolored cheese

@msscoventry 6 лет назад

That would make it too easy

@NoahHornberger 6 лет назад

If you look at the holes, you will quickly notice that the cheese holes are all different sizes, and the positions don't match. They are a detail added for confusion, the make the puzzle more difficult.

@comuteamrgb 6 лет назад

80 ways i calculated

@xFlea 6 лет назад

lol

@JLP2224 6 лет назад

Try like 12,000.

@wikipedia8193 6 лет назад

(2*4*4)*(2*4*3)*(2*4*2)*(2*4)=98 thousand

@thezerbs872 6 лет назад

(2*4*4)^4

@comuteamrgb 6 лет назад

hmm i imagined every combination in my brain idk if im right

@genesisrecinto1115 6 лет назад

Hits quite easy, I solved it already before half of the video.

@bpic9717 6 лет назад

to be true I just love see you solving it.

@chrischiampo8106 6 лет назад

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@dankmemerino1473 6 лет назад

The hell?

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Yeah! Enjoy your Friday puzzling lunch break! Regards to both of you!

@chrischiampo8106 6 лет назад

Mr.Puzzle Thank You 😀👩🏻‍🔧👨🏼‍🔧

@Brandonator365 6 лет назад

Sebastian Leaf we have spotted a normie

@oliviatilleman8055 6 лет назад

Please use correct capitalization... also, you don't need that many emojis. Sorry, it just... really bugs me.

@K_amonger 6 лет назад

I dont speak japanese True story

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

I guess there are a lot of people who do not speak Japanese.

@xenaguy01 4 года назад

The number of variants is exactly 8. That puts each niece in each of the four corners, plus those same corners inverted.

@jonni2734 6 лет назад

really strange but interesting solution. Good video!

@kyllerkyrby 6 лет назад

8 (possibilities for the first piece) x 6 (for the second...) x 4 (for the third) x 2 (for the last) = 384

@-danR 6 лет назад

These are simplistic possibilities that ignore the (graduated) _horizontal_ and (miniscule, and graduated rotational) translations that are both possible, and actually _necessary_ for the solution.

@patrickwienhoft7987 6 лет назад

This is only true if you don't consider that you can rotate each piece by 90, 180 or 270 degrees. Additionally, you need to divide by 4 at the end, because you can rotate the whole frame to turn one configuration into another, therefore counting every configuration 4 times

@totalytaco3715 6 лет назад

nonono. Each piece can be arranged in a corner in 8 ways (2 for flipping the piece, 4 for rotation), so in each corner you have 8 possibilities. Firstly, there are 4 possibilities, so we multiply by four to account for all of them (2*4*4) then there are 3 possibilities so we have to multiply by 3 and so on. The last expression can be simplified to 4!. there are 2*4*4! or 192 different possibilities

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

Each piece has 8 ways to fit, 4 rotations on the front and. 4 on the back. The first piece has 4 places to go. 8*4. The second piece has the same 8 rotations, but now it only has 3 spaces to choose from. 8*3. The third piece has 8 orientations as well, but now only 2 spaces to fit in. 8*2. And finally, the last piece still has 8 possibilities, but only 1 space to go into. 8*1, or just 8. You find yourself with 8((8*4)(8*3)(8*2)), or 8((32)(24)(16)). This leaves you with the final result of 98,304 possibilities. (Trust me, I’m good with math)

@HPOfficeJetProAll-In-One 6 лет назад

No offense, but thats completely wrong. Each piece has 8 ways to fit, 4 rotations on the front and. 4 on the back. The first piece has 4 places to go. 8*4. The second piece has the same 8 rotations, but now it only has 3 spaces to choose from. 8*3. The third piece has 8 orientations as well, but now only 2 spaces to fit in. 8*2. And finally, the last piece still has 8 possibilities, but only 1 space to go into. 8*1, or just 8. You find yourself with 8((8*4)(8*3)(8*2)), or 8((32)(24)(16)). This leaves you with the final result of 98,304 possibilities. (Trust me, I’m good with math)

@mook2944 6 лет назад

Favorite past is how he says Mr. Puzzle.

@loneaxolotl 6 лет назад

I like how you said "Siebenstein Spiele". Really cool puzzle, man!

@Auieist 6 лет назад

thank you for your videos, we ennjoy them very much

@Mr.Puzzle 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@fizixx 6 лет назад

The thing that would confuse me initially is that the pieces don't fit exactly in the corners! Very clever!

@Krebzonide 6 лет назад

The total possible solutions would be 8^4 * 3 * 2 which would be just under 25,000.

@auryx2977 6 лет назад

I was expecting them to fill in the entire frame.

@zeldita2610 6 лет назад

The holes confuse more 😂

@paulrose4201 6 лет назад

Is there a file that I can download to make my own on my own laser cutter?

@ednabitara8516 6 лет назад

At first when i looked at the puzzle it looked so easy

@cycataklata 4 года назад

Nice speedrun

@scott110699 6 лет назад

Total number of options is 98304, though very few of those would be solutions 2 sides * 4 rotations * n pieces left, n starts at 4 and reduces by one for each piece put in place= 2*4*4 * 2*4*3 * 2*4*2 * 2*4*1 = (8^4)*(4!) = 98304

@earlybird6885 6 лет назад

ich finde es immer lustig, wie man direkt an der Aussprache merkt, dass da ein Deutscher Englisch spricht :D ich mag dieses Platte Deutsch/Englisch :D

@tonyherva322 3 года назад

Und ich dachte ich wäre der einzige der das hört

@JohnWilson-wy9fw 6 лет назад

Hi Mr puzzle I subscribed

@evlredsun 4 года назад

each piece has 8 orientations and 4 possible positions so we get (8^4)*3!/2=12,288 possible unique solutions. it is not 4! because that would include rotational symmetry, and it is divided by 2 for flipped symmetry. this also assumes that the frame is perfectly square. if it is not, then... good luck on your 98,304 choices. hopefully there is more than 1 unique solution

@quintopia 6 лет назад

It's clear those pieces have to go in corners, and there are clearly 8 solutions, so the first piece can go in any corner on either side. It does have to be rotated the right way though. So each solution is 1 of 4*24*16*8=512*24=2048+10240=12288 "reasonable" configurations that have the same upper left corner on the same side. Multiply by 8 to get the total number of "reasonable" configurations (including all 8 solutions).

@juliocosta5818 3 года назад

Solved this in 5 seconds by thinking "out of the box"

@willmorton8006 4 года назад

I made this puzzle in my DT (woodwork, it might even be called something else where you're from) class when I was 14. You shouldn't need to jam anything in, and the trick is to ignore the holes altogether.

@NormalGayBro 6 лет назад

I like how the holes don't line up. Since you're probably gonna expect them to line up, it leads you down the wrong path.

@ericisawesome476 6 лет назад

If my logic is correct: each piece has 8 possible orientations (4 edges * 2 sides). There are 4 total pieces, which means you can have 8^4 = 4096 sets of orientations for a given order of pieces, of which there are 4! = 24 permutations of unique orderings, resulting in 4096 orientation combinations per permutation * 24 permutations = 98304 possible outcomes