A Closer Look at House Tully & House Frey - S2, Ep 5 | House of the Dragon | HBO 

If we know Tyland Lannister’s full history, different Lannisters.

You’re a few centuries off

​@@jeremiahooms4716No, he right bud, Walder, by the time we got to see him was about 100 years old - and a dirty old man who bought his House's name down into the gutter because of his weasly antics, his heritage is quite different mind.

@@jeremiahooms4716 No my math is right. Dance of Dragon happened in 129 AC and Walder Frey was born in 208 AC

@@BlackwoodSupremacy lol you’re right idk what I was thinking when I posted that

their wealth and army are nothing in the presence of dragons

missing that central tower in the middle of the bridge tho

I hope they would also show us the Casterly Rock

@@anthonyufert8477 And would the son of this lord and lady of House Frey end up being Walder Frey? Are they Walder Frey’s parents?

@@costco_pizza walder frey will not be born for another 80 years.

I believe that would cost quite a bit even a little showing. They're probably trying to save everything for when they really need to go all out.

The only bitter a**h*le that was rejected by Rhaenyra was Crispy Kreme

Call him a simp.

Call him an honourable man who isn’t an incel, unlike Cole

And would Walder Frey be born at this time ready to take over House Frey next?

@@c0ronariu5Cole is an a-hole but not an incel

The Lads HYPE

Did Kermit get written out?

@@joshuaevans6295 appears so, First they messed up Blood and Cheese by removing Maelor, then killed Elmo offscreen, now they deleted Kermit

@@RC_Gaming_306 bloodbath on sesame street

​@@RC_Gaming_306 oh no, they're getting rid of useless tertiary characters!

Who is she?

​@@TheJabadyOld female head of the Freys that declared for the Blacks after her husband died during the first battles for the Riverlands though she married into the Freys instead of being born as one. She fought in the war pretty much as a full blown combatant from its start to its end, retaking Harrenhal after Criston Cole began to retreat, she took in and fought with Rodrick Dustin and the Winter Wolves, rallied both House Frey and her blood kin, House Vyper and joined one of the Black dragon seeds, Addam of Hull, for the showdown at Second Tumbleton and joined the Lads (The young sons of old Tully (20?) and the 13 year old Benjicot Blackwood) on their march to Kings Landing at the end. After the war she ended up being a Riverlands version of the cupid and paired widows with Northerns who stayed south to repopulate the Riverlands. She also boned a Blackwood lady. She pretty alright for a married-in Frey. Oh and she also managed to evade Vhaegar during Aemond's attack on Harrenhal by hiding in the toilet and slipping away. Pretty fun mention Blood and Fire.

@@honestlordcommissarbrighte7921 tranquilos, HBO no dejara pasar la oportunidad de un personaje tan "diverso", seguro es la nuera de estos Frey

​@@percivaldarkus3537¿Qué quieres decir con diverso? Si literalmente, así es en el libro 🤨

@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ woke ¬_¬ no quería ser grosero

Who is she?

You mean her book ver? Cuz that is Sabitha Frey that Jace meets in this episode.

@@SonderDAzeX She seems older and they weren't named.

@@ythandlename They are older, but on IMDB they are listed Forest Frey and Sabitha Frey.

I don't understand? Why would we miss her when she is right here alive in this scene?

The names probably.

Because they have muppet show to do 😂😂

Because their names are Elmo and Kermit!

Yes. The Freys were afraid of Vaghar that's why Jace promised them protection.

There names were ridiculous to begin with. That was the right choice😂

that was arya

I’m Team Green, but same.

That is Sabitha Frey and Lord Forest Frey that Jace meets.

@@SonderDAzeX In name only

@@uthorofthehightower3367 ok, still a Sabitha Frey.

Oh this is the beginning isnt it. Book purists are getting annoying (and i read all of them).

Jace made sure he drank while he treated with them

Did you forget why Frey betrayed Robb Stark? Hah! Robb Stark had the audacity to come inside Frey's castle keep and bring his new beloved while all of Frey's daughters sat there, rejected... Meanwhile House Lannister offered them payment... I feel that was the key especially reviewing season 1 thus Frey did not technically betray, he was betrayed by the Starks. With Jace it might be different given that he is a dashing dragon rider and appears to look like a great warrior even if he is untested and rather young... so at least they did not try to force him into some marriage pact.

Robb was an oath breaker, as long as Rhaenyra keeps her oath, the frey won’t betray her.

@@apollosungod2819 Chill out, Walder Frey. But yeah, the show made Robb dumber and more like a shortsighted horndog than in the books.

However, part of ASOIAF is also recognising that people are individuals so the Freys who exist during one era are not the same Freys who exist in a different era.

They did the same to Brackens because they wanted fight for Aegon last episode they called them cravens

How are they dishonorable?

How are they dishonorable though? They had a very reasonable request. Good negotiators.

@@queenxx1690 Nah, this episode actually portrayed the Brackens as pretty based. They looked into a dragon's eyes and said: 'Burn us, we don't care'. Uncommon Bracken W.

Isn't the woman in the scene Sabitha Frey?

No, the Freys of this time weren't even dishonourable and fought bravely for Rhaenyra but of course to him all houses are reduced to steriotypes rather than being composed of individuals.

It was in the middle of a crazy dragon fight. There's plenty of room for plausible deniability. Plus Aegon is very much alive hence no Kinslaying occured.

Lol its his enemy who need protection.. The Lads Oscar and Kermit Tully + Bloody Benjicot Blackwood were one the baddest guys .. youngest yet fiercest

Before Aegon the Conqueror conquered Westeros.

Around 300 years before Aegons Conquest.

About 600 years give or take iirc. A Frey built a bridge with a single tower, started collecting toll fees = 💰💰💰 The Freys are what modern people would describe as 'nouveau riche'. Rivermen with older houses and esteemed blood would describe them as 'upstarts'

@@theblackpearlofbraavos That just goes to show how snobby Westeros is though. Lol. A family that rose to prominence around 600 years ago is still seen as new money.

@@CatotheE LOL right? But I guess when you have a hyper-stratified class system with families boasting linages over 8000 years old, 600 years of toll collecting would seem like new money.

Well, Daemon at the moment cut all comunications and it's pretty much fighting a parallel war for his own goals, while pretending to serve Rhaenyra. The Freys are currently the only true team black house in the Riverlands

Vermithor will come into play soon. A character we've seen already will claim it and they will have a pivotal role in the story, so don't worry.

It's them, they've been made older in the show.

I was surprised she was casted as older, too. Maybe she'll look different in mail **shrug**

@@theblackpearlofbraavos I would understand older. But this one is old. Geriatric.

@@KK-fi6ms both her and Forrest look older than I expected.

He'll be born in 79 years (DoD starts in 129, he's born in 208)

In the future.

He's going to be a kid in future tv show Knight of the Seven Kingdoms

He’s not that old.

Incubating under the castle.

No está muerto. Está moribundo. Es lo que significa lo que dice Criston.

@@ArticWS Dice que ha dejado al Dragon muerto ahí luego Rhaenyra dice que Rhaenys luchó contra 2 dragones y mató a 1

@@pabloolivera97 Rhaenyra cree que Sunfyre está muerto. Cole dice "Sunfyre was long in the dying" así que lo dejaron ahí en Rook's Rest. "Long in the dying", no que está muerto. No sé si lo has visto doblado y lo han traducido mal o qué, pero en versión original al menos dicen que estaba moribundo cuando lo dejaron.

Because the story is nowhere near as engaging. This show is based on plain historical chronicles about the civil war, white GoT was based on novels with characters and plots hence why it felt more ‘alive’

To you it might feel that way but it certainly does not to me. The cast is certainly smaller and the story is more straightforward: it's about a Targaryen civil war, that's it.

@@Regenmacher175that’s the problem in my opinion. There’s no story here, it feels more like a streamline of events and representation of people involved in these events. GoT, at its best, was built around the characters and their stories.

@@baronmunchausen645 I think both shows are excellent examples of character-based storytelling. The only difference is GOT had a larger world to present to the audience and a larger cast of characters. The Dance of the Dragons is a civil war as a result of which the Targaryens will be in decline.

Civil war that is over in few weeks in the books

You will have bright colors to marvel at again soon enough.

NO one cares fake fan