A Columbus Conundrum 

Arguably better than being stuck in a literal hamster wheel in Calgary. Especially when they offered him $10 million or more, he’d be more unmovable than he already is.

Flyers fans were furious that Chuck Fletcher had no interest in trying to bring him home. Looks like we dodged a bullet.

Thank Chuck Fletcher for that

​@@philly_sports1558it's not that we had no interest, we couldn't because of our cap situation

For all the misuse of and underachieving by Timo Meier in NJ, I’d still rather have him than Gaudreau. Especially for that price tag.

Pfp fits

At least the Cavs won a title

i hope we win a cup before i die

Hopefully you also have the Buckeyes to take some of the edge off?

Same

Heres an idea: let's timestamp all the video game tunes used in this video. I'll go first. 5:35-6:43 Death Wind F-Zero SNES

Please dear God 🙏🙏🙏

It cant get much worse.

How long did it take the Laughs to win a playoff series after the Legacy of Failure video? 2+ years. I don't know if Tree is powerful enough.

I mean look at Vancouver. It could happen. Just VERY unlikely

@@austinjohnson9553it got worse

With Duchene, people were quick to point out around that trade deadline that he bought a house in Nashville. I haven't seen a pending UFA that got traded be so locked in to his next destination since Thomas Vanek (traded to Montreal at the deadline but all but had his heart set on Minnesota)

My god, someone with common sense providing facts. Thank you for explaining that Panarin was never signing anywhere but NY no matter what. He did his part and was professional as hell about it and I have no bad feelings towards bread at all. He had gotten a say so in his playing location from the start and he finally wanted to make his own decision.

@@zacksmathers2689 he wanted NY, LA, Chicago, or one of the Florida teams (I think the Panthers specifically) Also don't forget he signed back when the Rangers sucked; they didn't get good until after COVID

@zacksmathers2689 It still sucked. Kind of like getting a really cool toy at Christmas unlike anything you'd ever had only to have your parents rip it away by Saint Patrick's Day.

@@FirearmofMutiny YES. That was always such a silly excuse to me that he only signed there 'because the Rangers are a wagon', at the time he signed there, the Rangers were operating with every expectation of tanking in 2019-20. The core they were competing with was mostly picked apart by that point (Stepan regressed beyond repair and was traded), guys like Zuccarello, Nash, Hagelin and Moore were long gone, Staal was regressing, McDonagh and Shattenkirk were gone too and they had pretty much nothing coming up the pipeline to their knowledge. Panarin wasn't a contending move, it was desperation. Panarin signed at a time where NOBODY knew what Mika Zibanejad and Igor Shesterkin would become, and more than that, guys like Chytl hadn't broken out yet either. At that time, the Rangers were operating under the assumption that a 36 year old Lundqvist might play until he was 39 or 40, and that Georgiev was taking the reins afterward (not Shesterkin). The only reason it didn't work out that way is because the Rags caught fire in like December-ish that year and rode that wave for 2 months. Lost early in the play-ins, lucked into the draft lottery and got a player who they seriously thought might be a franchise talent, and they spent like it in free agency. Also remember, at the time, people thought Adam Fox was *maybe* a Top 4 Dman, very few people had him pegged as one of the next greats at the position. The Panarin signing changed what otherwise could've been a terrible half decade for the Rangers, but anybody who thinks the inspiration behind him going there was simply to 'contend' is wrong to me, a guy who's intention is chasing rings would've taken $5-7 mil to play in a Tampa or Vegas at that time, not go for the high dollar New York deal. And it was never gonna happen in Columbus because the Blue Jackets were slammed up against the cap ceiling at the time, and there was no way they were signing more than one or two of those guys. Bobrovsky and Panarin got paid more than the Jacket could've afforded and that's BEFORE the payday that Duchene got. It was so bad Nashville had to buy it out half way through and let Ryan Johansen go in the same breath. The Blue Jackets just got stuck in a situation where they caught fire right as a bunch of their contracts were expiring; they essentially paid the Cup tax, except for the part where they win a cup.

They have two playoff series but it’s kind of sad how despite that they’ve only made it to the 2nd round once

columbus and minnesota got screwed hard with expansion. you have the league expanding by 9 teams in less than 10 years, and then you get third and fourth picks of everyone after atlanta and nashville came in. a video on the 2000 expansion would be cool, both teams are different but similar

@@kaiuche8640 The Jackets' inability to properly follow up on their sweep of the Lightning is haunting them. That they've won only one playoff series since then is a clear sign of their inability to sustain any success they do have.

@@marcus813 yeah pretty much

The thing is that hockey is doing quite well in Ohio, but the NHL seems fit to blow it off. Vegas also had the most favorable conditions for competing and are treated as the golden child of expansion teams. And sports media is shit in general. But anyway, we'll see if they can get the staff to develop the current crop of talent.

We have a workable team, need a good coach! Poor Patty Laine is great when he can play but he just never can and it's a sad situation.

@@Jalreal I agree I like the team a lot. I think we just need a management overhaul

@@Jalreal, I'm praying for Patrik to find his scoring touch after he gets himself in order.

@@CJEstradaMartinez Laine is/was an offensive player, he always worked best when either shooting, or on an individual effort. He basically needs a team that can pass, can match him for speed, and can cover defense for him in their own zone. Columbus is really bad at providing those things on a regular basis. If he comes back in a good mood, Columbus is going to need to be a lot tighter for Laine to really score. Still hoping he recovers from whatever he's dealing with, return to hockey or not.

the jackets need everyone short of the mcconnells to get fired. mike priest has been running hockey operations for the franchise for 15+ years and what do you get?

How’s it been since for both franchises??

​@@Brandon-qd2lbColumbus won one more playoff series in a qualifier round. Tampa won back-to-back Cups.

Almost 5 years later and I still don’t know how that happened. It was like the Jackets summoned the spirits of the late 70s Canadiens for one series and the Lightning got their talent stolen by the hockey versions of the Monstars.

Yeah, and I remember Tree laughing his head off when it occurred.

and the Leafs the next year

Fellow Columbus native, I agree with the analogy that CBJ is the Chargers of the NHL. I feel like at some point someone in the organization pissed off the hockey gods and they have cursed us for time eternal.

the chargers have actually had a taste of success. more like the expansion browns

​@UserName-ts3sp ya but what have the chargers actually done? The 18-19 season for the jackets was the same formula, big part of success to fail spectacularly in the second round. The chargers "success" is nada. They made 1 super bowl.... 1.... a team that been there since the merger.... ya sry but I see more correlations between the two teams. The level of choking both do is crazy

@@ValueDrew they’ve won their division, even made the third round a few times. and a SB appearance in the 90s

Columbus is also the de facto home for the USMNT against Mexico. Although Cincy has taken a bite out of that. Lovely derby name between the two MLS clubs as well. Say what you will about American soccer culture, but there isn’t a better rivalry name than the “Hell Is Real Derby.”

@@tehbeernerdHell is Real is the perfect name cause nothing screams “Ohio” more than random-ass evangelical billboards on the side of a highway in the middle of a farm.

Stanley Cup harder to win

before the jackets even make a conference final*

Funny thing was that the Haslems were loved in Columbus than in Cleveland

The Crew has won more championships than the Jackets have won playoff series. Since 2000, they've made it to the 2nd round TWICE and lost both times.

That season was crazy. 3 of the top 5 teams (Chicago, Columbus, and Minnesota) were out in round 1

The NHL has the fucking worst playoff approach and it makes no sense. Fuck Bettman. When people point out playoff records, they neglect the fact that the Jackets always had to face teams like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Washington, Tampa... NHL has fucked this team at every turn. Could have, perhaps should have won a couple of those, but still. It's one heck of a tilted field.

Hired a controversial coach who hasn't done squat in 15 years. Have him peruse the player's phones, yet claim it's for bonding with players. Resigns after 78 days before the team reports to training camp "You hired the wrong coach, Columbus? NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!" Yeah, Columbus, you've fucked up. BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!

7:03

Don’t worry, at least Columbus has The Crew that won the MLS CUP last year after beating the Juggernaut Darling that is LAFC (even when they are owned by the Haslums)

It will happen I guarantee it

Olivier absolutely unloading on Rempe was truly highlight-worthy. The game against the Rangers is proof that the Blue Jackets can actually play good hockey, if you can somehow motivate them to play good hockey for a whole three periods.

Same here, and you're spot on. Individually Gaudreau is a 1 way player and has been that way all his time in Calgary, but his linemates in Tkachuk & Lindholm completely remedied that. In Columbus he doesn't have the team to help enable his offensive ability, and he's never EVER been known for his defensive ability.

An entire section should cover Bettman’s devotion to keep that team in place out of sheer ego from his failure of Muh Sun Belt Expansion!! Move the Coyotes to Canada. We have plenty of coyotes here, no need for a name change.

@@nickhughes8179Bettman is still haunted by the failure of Atlanta's second attempt of NHL hockey.

Yeah, we dodged that bullet but replaced that bullet with the Hart bullet. Losing Hart to rape charges seriously hurt this team. We are giving up 6 and 7 goals a game now. That random as hell winning streak in January or December was a mirage.

@@thephoenixxm4160Relax we’re still playing well and we just had a bad game by a goalie that should be a backup in the AHL. This is supposed to be a rebuilding year anyway.

Johnny Hockey might done alright for ya'z, Columbus has proven to be the Bermuda Triangle of the NHL...

@@philly_sports1558 Yeah, the fact that we have to play a bad goalie because Hart turned out to be a monster is pretty sad. I liked Hart before the news came out. Errosn or however you spell it just isn't the same. I miss the goalie tandem we had for that week that Errson and Hart played together.

Both of those franchises and their fans have gone through HELL!!!!!!

He already did the Pagula video encompassing both the Bills & Sabres a few years back, a twofer'un.

@@chizorama That was only making fun of the city of Buffalo’s sports teams. I’m asking if Tree wants to show all of the pain the Bills went through ever since they were founded, including the 4 lost Super Bowls in a row.

@@mattfabbs Not a Bills fan, but I even I don't want to re-live those 4 losses, was rootinf for them every time, then had to deal with obnoxious Dallas fans for years.

The Bills did win 2 championships in the pre-super bowl era; however, the Sabres have never won the Stanley Cup. Being a Buffalonian and as a fan of both teams, Buffalo as a whole has a legacy of pain. What softens the blow is our lacrosse team winning championships; including last year.

He’s already hinted at wanting to do a Brewers video. Please, Brewers, continue to fail, we need this.

Yeah, Jarmo is far more responsible for players wanting out, from what people are saying

Rick Nash wanted out too, but he always lived in Columbus in the offseason

Exactly. It’s not the city. It’s clear team culture and management are the underlying issues.

@@Agent_1701-Dehhhh it's the city too, let's be honest. not even the people who live here actually want to live here.

@@jimmysheehan5496 columbus isn’t a destination city, and it never will be. but it’s decent.

Constant pain from injuries doesn't help

Laine’s depression falls squarely on how he was treated by Mark Schiefele and Blake Wheeler. Real locker room leaders don’t deliberately destroy a young talented player’s psychological health out of jealousy and the potential of Laine replacing Wheeler on the top line.

@@nickhughes8179 Hahaha stop bullshitting bro, no way dude that depress after leaving that team. Laine à bonafied bitch

My brother would have ROTFL after hearing Babcock-a-Saurus Rex.

My friends and I started Hard Betting all of those Games.... We Cleaned Up😂

No that is the Buffalo Sabres....Identical droughts

Ong

Yeah kinda haha

the dolans are cheap, so there’s that explanation

It used to not always be that way with the Crew. I used to be a fan over a decade ago and they did everything they could to cheap out after they won the cup in 2009. They let Sigi Schmid walk and completely gutted the team in 2011 that it took years to get out of and if it wasn’t for the fans fighting to keep their team, MLS would of allowed them to relocate to Austin. Remember that was a done deal. I want to say it starts with ownership since Clark Hunt was a terrible owner, but Jimmy Haslam has been hit and miss with the Browns.

Cincinnati is a third the Size of Columbus!!

Good grief. I can't believe that I still remember watching their last playoff game in April 2011.

You know, there's plenty of material for that video.

pretty accurate

As a jackets fan I’d more consider us to be the Washington generals of hockey