"At the age of 55, going on 56, how many more pictures can you do?" Almost 20 years later at least 9 feature films, not including documentaries... damn Marty is special.
+Jesse Dampolo That's because as De Niro got older, he found the new 'next' great talent in Leonardo Dicaprio. With those two amazing talents you can make a lot of great movies.
Everything these guys are talking about is happening right now. This is nuts. Everything they're saying is relevant, and this interview was conducted in the late nineties. I can't believe it. I bet if they were to sit down and re-watch this they would be amazed at how accurate they would turn out to be. 14 years on and nothing has changed.
Ehhhh, I think they got a lot of stuff right, but they didnt have the foresight to see the boom in indie studios like Annapurna, A24, etc. We are in another golden age of film, it just happens to be at the same time as all the bloated blockbusters. I also dont think it was very hard to predict in 97. Movies were very much dominated by blockbuster movies that put story second. I think we are lucky that Marvel movies and etc, are willing to put story/writing *at least* above (however slightly) what blockbusters in the 90s-early 2000s had it. So yes, blockbusters have taken over, but we have more indie films being shown in theatres across the country and even the world than ever before. Successfully. A24 particularly has really been a saving grace for Original, small, movies.
@@boppob1343 couldn't agree more. in the future, most of those bad blockbusters like Transformers or something like that will be forgotten and what will stays will be films like Moonlight, Boyhood, The Irishman, Parasite, Mulholland Drive, Pan's Labyrinth, etc, etc... and then people will say that the beginning of the 21th century was one of the best times for cinema hahahaha
You think that's crazy? Look at the photo of Apollo 13, Goodfellas, Godfather, Mr Jaws/ET/Jurassic Park, Mr Back to the future/ forrest gump and Star wars sitting together. To listen to that convo wooo
The part about subtitles was really interesting. Ultimately it was the increasingly popularity of anime that got many people of my generation to feel comfortable with subtitles.
superb interview, asking the right questions when they are needed to be asked, and just stepping back and letting the guys talk. great , this is how an interview is meant to be .
+DOGOID True that, but he does have two talkative guests (especially one of them). At times even a very good interviewer needs to be more active since there are people who are difficult to get to open up (shy like DeNiro, generally difficult like Dylan or just pricks like a whole bunch of people).
Cinema between 1920 to 1948, and between 1967 and 1983 was at its all time best in my opinion. The studios and talented directors who built the foundations and the new wave who re-established it.
@Randy White Have seen all the movies u mentioned except Broadcast News,some of them are damn good,not saying that only ''bad'' movies have been made since 1960,all i am saying is,the quality of Cinema decreased post 1959,I love 80s,i think it's the best decade for Horror and Action,60s was ok,90s was good,but the 70s of Hollywood sucked balls,Yes,it also gave us the likes of William friedkin,John Carpenter,Hal Ashby but it just killed the innocence in Cinema,Film Noir,Western almost vanished post 59,one of the reasons not a big fan of post 1959 cinema,it's just my opinion,to each his own as they say.
@@lodalega967480s were great but 60s was ok? 60s you had Godard, Truffaut, Tati, Demy, Varda, Resnais, Antonioni, Visconti, prime Fellini, prime Bergman, prime Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Leone, Bresson, even classic Hollywood films (The Apartment, Liberty Valence, Lawrence of Arabia, Psycho), the rise of New Hollywood (Bonnie and Clyde, Easy Rider, Rosemary’s Baby, The Graduate). 80s doesn’t even come close
@@lodalega9674and the 70s killing the innocence of Hollywood is exactly what made it great. Auteurs were confined by the Hays Code which shackled their artistic expressions, if you wanted childrens fairy tales with no vulgarity, no discomfort and gunshots but no bullet holes or blood forever you can stay in the millions of classic Hollywood before it
Two great directors whose body of work stand the test of time. Could listen to these two for hours. Just watched 'The Wolf of Wall Street' and it is another exceptional addition to Scorsese's library.
I feel that Marty had a lot longer career, and has been churning out great films every five years since 1973. Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, King of Comedy, Goodfellas, Casino, etc. Even if very different from the first one, even his last one, The Wolf of Wall Street has been just as good as the first one. On the other hand, Francis had essentially one decade on the top, but no other director had ever done so many perfect movies in that timeframe. The seventies, of course. The Godfather I & II, Apocalypse Now, The Conversation, and he had even written Patton.
watching mean streets helped cure my depression i had been suffering from for quit a while. strange but true, it really helped lift me up. dont ask me why
Why are people arguing who's better?These two men are both equally great. The only difference is, Coppola's film success was more condensed, he made 4 legendary films within 7 years (The Godfather, The Godfather II, The Conversation, Apocalypse Now) Scorsese on the other hand, had just 2 legendary films in the 1970's (Mean Streets and Taxi Driver) but the 2 other masterpieces (Raging Bull, Goodfellas) were in 2 other decades with many good ones in between. So instead of comparing these two let's instead thank both for their important contribution to cinema.
I completely agree at least one still doing it the other might had taken way too many risks that it might had shorten his career which sadly happens to most directors and filmmakers.
@@jothishprabu8 I mean come on most directors would give their life to have 1 film as good as the godfather, part 2 or apocalypse now.. let alone all 3… in the same decade
Both are great directors, Marty has maintained an incredibly diverse career through the years making films like Raging Bull, Goodfellas,Taxi Driver, After Hours, The Aviator.. I mean this guy doesn't miss, even if he misses it's still better than what you see these days and that to me is a ridiculous achievement, to have the same body of work that this guy had is unheard of, even filmmakers like Bergman and Fellini exhausted their creative vision. Coppola on the other hand, has made 4 classic films in the 70's and by classic I mean films that will stand through time, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather 1 and 2, one of the most overlooked films in The Conversation, I mean in 30-40 years, their place in cinema history will only flourish.. people would be discussing it the same way we discuss films like L'avventura, the idea of how this guy was able to make 4 undoubtedly great films in a span of 8 years, would baffle future generations. Like I said, both are great film-makers, to pit them together and compare their careers would be an impossibility.
Matthew Enriquez Dont forget about "One From The Heart", very bad in box office and by critic, but for me a masterpiece at the level of " The Conversation"
From the 1970s Scorsese created positive body of work that has made him one of the most important filmmakers of the late 20th and early 21st centuries..
Oscars mean what, again? Reflect on the fact that Dances With Wolves beat out Goodfellas. What, you never saw Dances With Wolves? Don't bother. Watch Goodfellas again instead.
***** Dances with wolves was a great movie about friendship. I know corny right? Plus Costner went out on a limb to make that movie which his friend basically wrote. Looking at the scope of the movie, dances with wolves was much harder film to make. I like Goodfellas as well but they are completely different types of movies.
+JiveDadson wow the way you said that makes you sound stupid. dances with wolves is a classic that not many people know about. Goodfellas is worse than dances with wolves by far! one stands on it's own the other is a genre film. man you have poor tastes in film.
+GMMac goodfellas is not only better, it is miles ahead. some even call it one of the finest movies ever made, it has higher critic scores and audience scores everywhere. dances with wolves is a great movie, dont get me wrong, but it is far from goodfellas status in movie history and it is also not as well made
GmmacMusic i hate that dances with wolves is somewhat hated now its a great movie. but good fellas beats it on almost every level and is one of the finest films ever made.
+Lucius Anderson it's utterly insane how prophetic and how many nails they hit on the head with this. They are even talking here about studios picking up independent directors and fast tracking them into huge budget pictures which is something that happens so regularly these days. Especially pushing them into these big expensive boring franchises.
Interesting how Coppola mentions that both he and Scorsese came along at the perfect time - the collapse of the old big studio regime. It made it possible for all those great edgy American films of the 70's to be made.
I love how they are talking about the directors' credibility and craftsmanship while it shows Coppola working on Jack lmao. Glad Scorsese gave a Malick namedrop though among other things. Scorses really knows a lot about the medium and cares for it so dearly.
What a great conversation between the two legends, who are truly the embodiment of the golden period of cinema. It just a pure pleasure to have them both in the same room giving you a breakdown of their journey through the hurdles of their careers.
That's Italian! I am NOT saying these two men are the ONLY movie-director-as-artist of the past 50 years- but it was fabulous watching them both in the same room talking. I was born in 1966 but not only have I seen Thousands of movies-especially from Hollywood's Golden Age- I was able to see a lot of them on TV with AMC.and host Bob Dorian with No commercial. Growing up in the Bay Area I got to see many foreign films this way free: Kurosawa-Eisenstein- Fellini. That kind of grounding I don't see much of today
Amazing that Scorcese here hadn't even hit his next big stride, film after great film with Leo. That was still ahead of him. There really is no director with a body of work, so many different periods, like Scorcese.
Scorsese has been my favorite director since I was 15. His work from Mean Streets to Goodfellas was incredible and unparalleled. My father would challenge me by saying, yeah but were any of those Scorsese movies as good as the Godfather pictures? I had to admit that as great as Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are, they truly aren't as perfect as the first two Godfather movies.
well yeah.. the godfather is a legend , but still i really liked goodfellas overall more than i liked the godfather , not to mention his latest works such as shutter island and the wolf of wallstreet alongside the departed.. thats the reason i prefer scorsese , hes just too good
Eh. Subjective shit, debatable shit, etc. Calling The Godfather a "perfect film" simply isn't true unless our definition of perfect is very different. I'd give a 10 to any of the movies you mentioned in a heartbeat, but comparing them to each-other like one is perfect-er than the other is just kinda absurd.
I find it fascinating that both avoid mentioning George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Jaws, Star Wars and the dirty word “Blockbuster”. In the beginning when they were talking about the transition of the movie industry in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. And towards the middle of the discussion their hang up becomes the technology that facilitates film making. But I do like how they do mention frame of reference. That’s the main hang up films have today. Especially with Netflix and similar apps. Kids now prefer a small smart phone screens instead of movie theatre screens. I guess we’ll have to wait for the post covid period.
I can't put my finger on why most movies and music nowadays bore me to death . Thought that it could be my age , but my younger boys think the same and favor these two directors of my generation. Don't know if the corporations are to blame, but hope after living though a culturally inspiring time that we are not heading into some drab dark age. Music is even worse.
+Strange Days This is a fine example of a popular criticism that doesn't hold up when you take the time to think about it. Next time you go to the cinema, count the number of posters on the wall. Do it many times, tally it up. I guarantee you less than five percent of them are related to comic books films. The idea that comic book films are over saturating the film market, though often touted, is nonsense.
TheReccher yeah but without advertising the other movies fail. Comic book movies, remakes, and tent poles in general get a large percentage of advertising by the studios therefore they are on the radar on a much larger scale. The truth is they are just following the market, but the quality of scripts that get made has taken a nose dive.
+Strange Days People today do not have the capacity or will for critical/analytical thinking. Cinema reached it's apex around 2001. Most of the good directors are dead or retired. Once in a while the Coen brothers or a Paul Thomas Anderson come in with a great film, but cinema's best years are sadly in the past.
+Strange Days Yet there are still fantastic films being made that everyone seems to forget about when they put their nostalgia goggles on, Birdman Whiplash, Nightcrawler Interstellar, Boyhood, Grand Budapest Hotel just last year for example
TOP 10 MIX of these two guys: 1- The Godfather FFC 1972 2- Apocalypse Now FFC 1979 3- The Godfather II FFC 1974 4- Ranging Bull MS 1980 5- One From the Heart FFC 1982 6- Taxi Driver MS 1976 7- The Conversation FFC 1973 8- Godfellas MS 1990 9- The Departed MS 2006 10- Youth Without Youth FFC 2007
Being a movie Director has gotta be one of the most challenging jobs there is, with so many balls in the air at any one time... juggling budgets, studio execs, actors, schedules, locations, marketing, weather, interviews, etc., with most projects stretched over years.
I'm studying film at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, where I take courses in all of film - from history to analysis to theory to sociological importance - and I definitely would like Scorsese to be my professor. When he talks about film, it's so interesting and he seems to know everything about it. It's great to listen to.
What they said about foreign films is so true. Luckily with Parasite being so successful we will hopefully continue to see excellent foreign films being more heavily promoted.
1:17 - Dude... while talking about Coppola's _vast_ importance to film history, and his creative mastery of the film language, *don't* show clips of him making fucking *"Jack"!*
This is so true. Hollywood hires young indie directors to make big budget blockbusters and there, they lose their personal touch and style. Colin Trevorrow and Jurassic world is the most recent and obvious example.
That's an historical interview! It's an solid Hollywood part of history, especially it's let us to show, where did movie business,"turned wrong)". As I got, Miramax, headed on by Weinstein was the last shelter to artists( And now we have only blonde black's and strait gays)
It’s a insightful interview, but sometimes it feels rushed. Some topics are so interesting and both guys where really getting into depth in the said topic, and then the host changes the question or interrupts. It’s kinda of a shame.
So wonderful to see these two giants together. And at the same time: tragic that at the core of this conversation, their entire careers have been about swimming against the tide of American mediocrity.
Tragic that you've never heard of John Ford, Billy Wilder, William Wyler, Akira Kurosawa, etc. Coppola and Scorcese are light-years away from the best directors that ever lived.
Sugar R robinson Steven Spielberg has incredible attention to detail to be sure. But there is no Doubt he was influenced by Coppola and Scorsese. Because these guys were before Spielberg they didn't have the same technology at their disposal that Spielberg did or has So I suppose its all down to personal taste.
Coppola is so bold here speaking the truth, "...the management of the traditional studios are desperate, because they know they're unnecessary, they know they're overpaid, and they know the truth that the movies cost more than they're publicly admitting and they're doing less, so it's gonna change." But by-and-large, except for maybe Blumhouse, they went the opposite way - fewer movies and they're gigantic productions and as much as possible they go after tax incentives and send the work overseas to cheaper vendors.
two geniuses... talking abt true sense of story telling... cosi think technology or cgi... or whatever they call now... important is how u emotionally connect with that part called as story telling
I love how he asks them if there are any young filmmakers they are impressed by, and they come up with Gus Van Sant and Woody Allen - practically their peers, not young people.
It was a smaller role than he had in other Scorsese movies, probably the smallest. I wouldn't call it a cameo, but I think the reason for his being in the center of the poster is pure marketing.
I'm a youngster who not only appreciates subtitles--I PREFER them! Even if it's a Hollywood film--I will ALWAYS, when watching a DVD, try and put on the subtitles.
Now they make expensive epic tentpole movies based on comic book characters and fairy tale fantasy stories. It's rare to see an indie movie that makes money at the box office.
Just goes to show Hollywood filmmaking is such a bitch. I don't care if you are considered the greatest filmmaker right now. Even the greatest filmmakers have a very tough process of getting funding and being bankable. I guess now with the use of RU-vid anyone can make a film and show to broader range of audiences online.
+jutubaeh of course be does. Spielberg wanted to make American sniper but couldn't because the studios weren't willing to give him the budget he had envisioned.
I'd like to see a The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Godfather, GoodFellas, Casino, Scarface (both the 1932 and 1983 versions), and The Departed. Edit: Also forgot The Untouchables (1987)
My dream film martin directing it, quentin taratino producing it along with francis ford coppal and john milus writing it, can you imagine how bad ass tha movie would be drugs , guns, sex, mafia, hitmen and awsome detailed characters.
It's sad that film-making greats have to clash with corporate heads for a chance to get their classics out there. Luckily Italians like Coppola have a hard enough one not to let idiots win.
