A Deep Dive Into The Online Manosphere 

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Pickup artistry isn’t meant to attract women, it’s meant to attract men who are desperate to attract women.

"When men refer to themselves as "alpha males", I hear that in the context of software, where alpha versions are unstable, missing important features, filled with flaws, and not fit for the public."

I love how Roosh interprets that girl reaching out to him more as her being desperately attracted to his distant attitude, and not, you know, someone being concerned that their friend suddenly started acting weird and distant

Manosphere: men who want the aesthetics of being a self reliant gigachad but without the introspection and life experience to actually do it

"If you were any less self aware you'd cease to be sentient. " I'm gonna keep that sentence for later. it's great writing !

I LOVE the concept of people choosing a coutry to immigrate to but want said country to hate foreigners...

So this Roosh V guy straight up ghosted a girl who considered him his friend overnight and, seeing her trying to connect back with him, only thought "I'm going to keep doing this out of spite, keep being an asshole to her because it makes me feel powerful", presumably lost that friend and then proceeded to make it his entire career? As a kind of backstory for a book character, that's the kind of thing that would get him characterized as a tragic villan who let his pettyness burn all the bridges that once mattered to him. This is the manosphere, though, so obviously he's actually a role model.

As a Serbian, as soon as I saw Serbia as number 1. I grinned so hard my cheeks started hurting. Just the idea of migrating from the EU here, while we are desperately trying to get in, is so amusing.

"France won't let me publicly call Africans the n-word" 💀

It may shock people in the manosperhe but women generally don't like people who don't treat people with basic respect

I completely lost my shit as well when he said Serbia, because literally over the summer a friend of mine came to NYC from Belgrade on a student exchange program, she's here for the year, and she was recently venting to me how much she does not want to go back to Serbia where she got certified to be a teacher and her salary was abysmal. I'd love to see how these sickos attempt to survive on the equivalent of 500 USD a MONTH

Even I, a socially anxious female who actively avoid conflict or misunderstandings and isn't pretty by most standards but my own, had to suffer tantrums from guys - try hard "alphas" or fully assumed "betas" alike - because they couldn't handle rejection by what they consider a "low-tier ugly f*cking b*tch" (actual words). Like, the amount of guys that can't even fathom the idea of women being any close to their equal is genuinly concerning...

It’s nuts that Roosh doesn’t realize that what happened in college was someone who saw him as a friend being upset that he suddenly started withdrawing and avoiding her

As a Czech, I burst out laughing when you read the word "xenophylic" - "tell me you've only ever been to Prague without telling me". Nice video, as always, Adam.

The one piece of advice my Dad gave me that I will never forget is don't go looking for a relationship, you come of as desperate and easy. Just live your life, be yourself, talk to people and something will come along. And that way, even if you're alone for a while, at least you're happy doing what you enjoy. Edit: It's been 5 months since I made this comment. It has been very fun watching almost 42 whole replies of people completely missing the point of what I said.

Complaining guy: "Look at all my money, my wealth, how great I am, now date me!" Women: "Look at that man with all that money and wealth!" Complaining guy: "They're golddiggers!" It's your target audience... what do you expect?

As a fellow hungarian it never ceases to amuse me that I always pronounce manosphere in my head as 'manó-sphere' aka the little tiny elf-sphere

You want to know about the most alpha thing I can think of? It was during my grandmother's funeral, she was my best friend. Our relationship was widely known in our family. I wasn't taking it well, and my grandfather saw that. We haven't always gotten along, and I regret that. But he gave me a hug, telling me "we will get through this". He had also lost his best friend, but he still thought of others. I went into his office and just closed the door. I didn't move for, I don't quite know. I think it was an hour, it may have been multiple. But while I was catatonic my grandfather sat with guests and talked and listened. He's not a people person, he cares for family and is kind, but he's more of a small dinner type of guy. We lost our best friend but he was such a natural leader and caregiver he would not let himself act like I did. Alphas aren't tough guys, they're my grandmother playing legos with my 7 year old self just because I liked it. They're my sister driving 10 km just to get my sick self groceries. Alphas are the first person you call not just for help, but just to speak with. People like Andrew Tate aren't alphas, they're jealous betas. They want all the respect with none of the work the alpha put in to earn even a modicum of their position. Alpha humans, like alpha wolves, are the parents, the caregivers, the person you'd trust your passed out partner with.

These Return of Kings articles make much more sense if you imagine the authors crying as they write them.

I remember when that "Return of King's" guy was trying to get into Australia and then had his visa denied on character grounds. He went on a twitter winge saying that he was going to get a boat from Indonesia to sneak into the country. That was the only time I have ever cheered on our intense policy of boat interception and offshore detention for people attempting that crossing.

The manosphere is fascinating. It feels like parody but these people actually believe what they’re writing

the manosphere completley fails to even identify what we want in a "dangerous man" it's dracula from the castlevania anime. start wearing capes and you'll start being attractive.

I am serbian and actually laughed out loud when he said to immigrate from first world countrys to serbia my god

"If you were just a bit less self-aware, you would cease to be sentient." This is my new favourite insult

So basically, the manosphere are men who never grew up from being a highschooler.

"Be the person you'd want your children to bring home as their partners" is the common sense nuke. Nailed it!

I was a girl in high school once. I recall liking the shy nervous boys who wouldn’t talk to me. I liked the ones who talked to me too…but this was high school and I was a loud, tall girl, and high school boys tend to be frightened of such things. Anyway, I don’t ever recall liking assholes even in high school, and I certainly won’t suffer them now at 32. If I could give one piece of advice to men about women, it would be “we’re human.” We are jerks and assholes and sweethearts and pushovers and whiners and heroes and bores and leaders and idiots and luminaries…all sorts of people. Some women won’t want to date you for asshole reasons, and that’s good because they’re assholes. Some women won’t want to date you because they’re not attracted to you, which is good because you wouldn’t want someone to lie to themselves. Some women won’t want to date you because you’re just not compatible, and you get to decide if you want to change or stay the course long term. We’re human.

I can't imagine anyone reading Roosh's college story and NOT come to the conclusion that she was showing interest in him when he was pulling away, out of concern for their friendship, even though she wasn't into him romantically. Maybe in a parallel world, they worked things out platonically and he didn't go off the deep end.

the "girls like assholes and reject nice guys" also comes from girls breaking up with guys with a line similar to "you're a nice guy, and all. but...". which hormonal young men will interpret as "i am rejecting you *because* you are a nice guy"

as someone who is in the ideal demographic for these influencers like roosh v and andrew tate I'm rly happy to finally see that channels like these arent just ripping the manosphere youtubers to shreds and picking apart arguments but actually providing some level of productive constructive criticism to their demographic, good job! rly loved the video

I actually tried some of these tips on a girl who was interested me. Surprisingly enough, withdrawing myself and not showing interest pushed her away rather than making me some alpha male chad. Crazy how that works 🧐

Manosphere? Finally a spherical review of Manos: the Hands of Fate!

I think the idea of being "challenging" still reflects a culture where dating is a kind of "battle of the sexes". You don't need to be challenging, its ok to be the guy who answers really quickly. If you have a passion in life and pursue self-fulfillment, you will find someone who will appreciate you.

It's really hard finding actual relationship advice without running into this manosphere BS

'If you were a bit less self-aware, you would cease to be sentient.' 🤣

Projecting insecurety onto others this openly and getting away with it just surprises me every time.

One of the problems is that a lot of those guys dont realise or admit how unattractive they are. Just because you are nice dosen't mean that you are atractive. I'm an ugly adult woman and I was very ugly and over weight in my teenage years. I remember when I tought that making myself smart and nice would make more attractive and I swear most of the bulling I recieved was from equally ugly boys that were super nice with the pretty girls. I'm 30 now and I can't even imagine holding the same perceptions of society of when I did when I was 15.

The fact that even with the massive amounts of red flags and horrible things Andrew has said and done,that people still like him anyways just cause he "says whatever he wants" takes away all hopes I had from humanity(if there were any).

If gigachad was a real person, he'd be a feminist

4:31 you can tell this guy is insecure about being french so he has to soften the blow by saying he lived in a "viking stronghold"

As a Czech woman, who mostly dates other Czech women, this is the most hilarious thing I've heard all month.

The funniest part of manosphere/pick up artist types is when they straight up admit their ideas and strategies don't actually work. In the beginning of every pick up artist book, they will tell you that this won't actually work with most women, you just need to ask every women you can. Well, newsflash, but if you ask every woman you meet, you will inevitabely find some who are just looking to hook up, no matter what sort of idiotic ideas you believe in.

As a French there is no way someone wrote "Jean Batave is a martial artist from the Viking stronghold of Normandy, France" without pissing themselves laughing. Just the name "JEAN-BATAVE" is one of the most hilarious names I've ever heard.

I just know this is gonna be gold

The fact that these people claim to be God fearing when all they want to do is kill, be racist, and have sex with every woman around them- it just makes me wheeze. But like you said consistency isn’t their strong suit.

You can also swap the whole "be hard to figure out" part as just don't be overbearing, admitting you are interested in some one can actually be fine, as long as you stay cool and are not horrendously neurotic about it.

I dabbled in the manosphere myself a few years ago. What drew me in originally was that I was coming off a really bad relationship, as well as the culture war that went on around the time. I just kept hearing this content calling narcissistic women out on shitty behavior, then affirmations about how you gotta worry more about getting money, get some exercise, and doing things that make you happy, which, even now, I agree with, it's actually good advice. Shit, it's good advice even for young women: Work hard and do shit you like doing, ladies. But when you start going down rabbit holes, there comes a point where you just keep going down a rabbit hole, or you pull yourself out. What made me pull out was just the blatant misogyny, racism, and self pity that a lot of manosphere members were presenting, some of them were content creators even. Like, how the hell do you expect me to keep listening to a mf say that because "narcissistic women get away with so much bullshit, that women's rights need to be taken away all together"? Someone tell me where being a confident and alpha ASF man comes into play when someone making RU-vid videos is bitching about women not being chained to a weighted ball and stuck in a kitchen, because that's some zero to a hundred shit to me. Yeah, there's solid advice, but it's tainted by the fact that it doesn't just attract the desperate and helpless; It also attracts the biggest losers mankind has to offer. I advise any man to free himself from the manosphere and truly "GO YOUR OWN WAY"; Do the things you want, work hard, set goals for yourself. Take care of yourself, physically, financially, and mentally. Above all, appreciate and love the people in your life.

10:24 He's right saying he's a "nice guy" a term often used to describe someone who expects to be rewarded for their good actions, unlike actually good people, who do good things because its the right thing to do, and don't expect to be rewarded for it. The good guy doesn't hold the door open because he wants the girl's attention, he holds the door open because its a good thing to do, regardless of who it's for

I'm a feminine woman. What if I don't care about finding a masculine man? If someone is cute, and we vibe then great.

Fun fact: this isn`t elementary school and dating isn`t a problem to solve but something to live with

And that’s how we all learn that Adam knows how to flirt

Please make a 1-hour long version of this. You're doing gods work.

“If you’re in the dating field and the wrong women keep coming after you. The common denominator is you.” FINALLY! THANK YOU!!! 😂

Just treat women the same way you treat guys. Makes sense considering they are basically the same. I think people over-differentiate men and women.

The manosphere is peak cringe. I know it may be a symptom of a lot of guys having a crisis of meaning in the modern world since everything dudes have been historically taught to be for centuries is changing. And thus so many of us are flocking to people like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. But this just ain’t it chief.

But Adam, have you considered that acting like an emotional stable adult might be too much for Andrew Tate?

6:59 Vaush representing both sides of the duality of man: soyboy and gigachad

Loved this video! I'll admit, I was a "Nice Guy™" from about 14 to around 19 (I'm 27 now). Then I came to the realization most nice guys never do: that they are in fact the assholes! And so I took myself out of the dating pool altogether for 5 years, not as some creepy incel, but because I realized that I needed to work on myself... I still was occasionally sexually active, and as I grew as a person and tried to correct my flaws of character I found that that introspection actually made me more attractive to women! a couple of years ago, I decided to put myself back on the market, but never trying desperately to find a partner (either for a night or long term). I just continued to focus on my own self improvement and living an interesting life. Not in order to be interesting to anyone else but simply to live life to it's fullest... I went through a few short, bad relationships, but now I am sitting in bed next to my sleeping girlfriend of over a year, who loves me for who I am, even with the many flaws I still have. SHE actually asked ME out! Not because she was desperate for a boyfriend (I'm her first boyfriend, but like me she has a history), but because she saw that I had tried to become a worthwhile person and because I showed her I RESPECTED her whether she was my partner or not, and was genuinely interested and intrigued by her but not in a creepy stalker-ish way. Nice guys only think they're nice and girls are either stupid or corrupted for not choosing them because they lack any basic skills of introspection or self-accountability, and blame everyone else for their problems. My grandmother always said to me: "If you meet 3 assholes in one day, you're the asshole!"

this has be one of the worst thing on the internet all of these man are just scammers taking advantage of people who are just confused or loss in this world don't get me wrong iam not trying to empathise with them and some of them are bad people but there some young man who really are confused about every thing and these people turned them into bad people this is why i hate them

That end comment was gold. Would you want your daughter to date that? Be the person you'd like your children to bring home is the perfectly succinct way to put it.

As someone who spent his childhood in a Czech village, the xenophilix nature of the Czechs really had me laughing

2:01 This is a true giga chad move. That transition was so smooth best transition i seen on a sponsor and funny too!

It's unfortunate that people aren't addressing the underlying societal issue at play here. The manosphere is not the disease, it's a symptom of one that has been fermenting for a long time now

Great video. Two additional things. Insecure people are easier to manipulate with the manosphere cookbook. We unfortunately live in a society where especially young women are pushed into placing their sense of self worth into how superficially attractive they are to others. (Although there is some research that suggests that this is unfortunately more true for young men as well. Not the kind of equality we were hoping for.) This insecurity is a lever that can be exploited, that is not completely false. Like you said, it tends to work less and less as life goes on and people grow up. Second thing. Being a manipulator who can play people is a skillset that can be increased by training. Spycraft is a lot more about that than about parkour and shooting. Mentalists and stage magicians have a different variety of this. Grifters and conmen yet another flavor. But the fact that you can get better att being a manipulative bastard if you practice it constantly is a coin with two sides. The price is that you have to be that person. And when people get time, they will see through it. So you need to constantly be an asshole to people to keep in practice and you need to be constantly on the prowl for new marks. And you will get lonely, because every time someone gets a good view of the the real person you've made yourself, that's another bridge burned behind you. And for most people it's an ability that is hard to switch off. You eff people up every day at work, chances are you're going to come home and eff up people close to you as well.

Re: nice guy stuff, I’m a woman and I remember during high school there was this one guy who I was friendly with for a bit, but who always complained that everything was too easy (while still getting D’s and C’s in our class), always tried to prove to others that he was smarter, and just generally sucked as a person, so I decided to distance myself from him. He had my number from a group project we did but MONTHS later texted me out of the blue and was asking me why I treated him so badly. Now, I knew that he had an entire friend group with 5+ people, we shared ONE class, and me “treating him badly” was just me treating him…as a normal acquaintance. I just wasn’t interested in continued conversations, so I kept things brief and polite. But then he launched into PARAGRAPHS about how he’s “such a nice guy and always tried so hard to be nice” and therefore I owned him my attention. So I blocked his number because I had already said I didn’t want to talk to him anymore, but he just didn’t want to accept that. So then he gets ANOTHER PERSON who used to be friends with me to text me on his behalf saying “you need to unblock [this guy] he needs to talk to you”. It was just such a confusing and weird experience. The weirdest thing about it is that he knew that I was gay, so it wasn’t even an attraction thing. He just saw all women like that.

My dad told me many, many years ago : 'Men with a happy sexlife don't bother talking about sex . It's the ones who lack a sexlife that shout the loudests . He was right ;)

There is something just so amazing about hearing Adam laugh

Anyone else noticed this video was made before Andrew Tate was actually in a cell, bros predicting the future

In a “wolf pack” the “alpha male” is called father and “alpha female” is called mother. So the “wolf pack” is called family. Then there is the teenagers and the evil puppies. Teenagers needs to move away from home. You let the puppies eat first because they have razor sharp teeth 😱

Just the forced duality of asshole/nice guy is a weird narrative and turns everything on its head. It's always about "getting A girlfriend" (which objectifies this elusive thing that's called a girlfriend), never about "hey this person is cool and we vibe together". It's like they're starting with the goal and then they squeeze the world around it, like life was a freaking work project or an rpg campaign. If I'm quite honest, I've also seen so-called "nice guys" do the same.

You can tell their entire life experiences are virtual. There's no way any person who have actually lived in the world would think like this. I know the whole parents' basement dweller is a bit of a cliché, but it may be the case here.

Ok you wanna know how to really get a girl you like. 1: Try to meet people in general. 2: If, among those people, there is a girl that seems nice, try to get to know her better. 3: Build a train. With their steel wheels on steel tracks, they are the most energy efficient way to move people or cargo over land

Want some real advice for talking to women? 1. Forget pickup lines 2. Women are human beings 3. Remember their name (say it repeatedly, write it down, whatever helps.) 4. Respect boundaries

To add to the "why date assholes" part other people's perception is also an important factor to consider. Someone might seem like a massive asshole to you but there will always be other people who don't see them that way. This is something that v much applies to dating especially if someone you like is now dating someone else and you feel snubbed. That feeling is even worse when you think you're better than the person they chose. There's always sides of people we don't see.

I think every trick in the book all boils down to a single point: Just do your own shit. When you are focused on your life goals, everything becomes supplementary unto attaining it. In dating, it enables an abundance mindset which is healthy. In relationships, it avoids neediness or being clingy.

How to be successful at dating and finding a partner. 1. Take care of yourself physically which includes your physique and your hygiene. 2. Treat people with respect 3. Be authentic to yourself and be the best person you can be 4. Realize that you are not owed a relationship, it is a precious gift that not everyone has, treat it that way.

I remember thinking of myself as a "nice guy," and lamenting always being in the friend zone, and being terminally online. This was right around 2010, I'm not sure how I avoided the manosphere and incel nonsense, but I could have very easily fallen into it.

7:05 is bait to get Vaush to cover this video… and I’m certain it will work 😂 well played. Adam was on one with this video 😂😂😂

The line "If you were just a bit less self aware you would cease to be sentient" is definitely one that I will work into my personal vocabulary. Fucking brilliant.

One of the biggest fears that the fathers of daughters has is that one day she'll bring home a boy who was just like the father at that age.

It's true that in my school time guys could be assholes and still get girls. They could however also be nice and get girls. Whether or not you were popular with girls seemed completely removed from if you were nice to them or not. It's a weird time to look back on. Of course most relationships back then didn't amount to anything, though I do know one couple who stayed together. Both were nice people and they were friendly with each other before and while together

I have a friend who unironically binges watches Tate and it's gotten to the point he full on idolizes and enshrines him. It's so fking sad and I don't know what to do 🤣🤣🤣

"Internet influencer get rejected from women in Serbia, Czech Republic, call their country pathetic and weak, and their woman feminists." Such many cases.

This man just gave better dating advice than basically all self-proclaimed dating "gurus" out there.

These cretins deserve nothing but scorn and contempt. I was a very shy young man and didn't begin to date until I was in my early/mid twenties. I never blamed girls or women for this, it was my issue that I worked on. I even dated a few girls that were 'out of my league'! One time a pick up artist type saw me with my girlfriend at the time, he came up to me and asked, "dude whats your secret?" I turned to him and said, "I treat her like a human being". It felt good.

Be the nice guy, if you like! Be the emotional "tampon" if you want to! That is not in particular boring. The actual mistake is in thinking that with a specific kind of behaviour, you can get any woman (or, in general, any person). That is not how it works. Being friendly and respectful is always helpful and a promising approach to social interaction. Interact with the person in front of you. Communicate with this person about what they need and what you need. And what each other can give.

tbh even though i’ve developed a lot, i never fully grew out of and understood the whole “nice guy” mentality. it may be because i’m autistic but i never picked up that being emotionally open and willing to be my partner’s rock could be considered boring, mainly because i don’t see them being that way with me boring either. tbh i think guys also just need to raise their standards because if a girl really does only want excitement from you instead of something respectful and mutually beneficial, that’s not what you need. self respect is the only path to respecting others imo

The duality of Vaush.

Heres a tip to those guys: if you treat women like human beings, they will maybe like you more.

Because I was brought up by women (3 sisters) I've always had it quite easy with women. Most men simply don't understand women. One of my friends was once trying to get with some chick and asked me how I managed all the time. I asked him a few question he was completely flummoxed by: who is she? What does she want? what do you have to offer her? He didn't know the answer to any if those questions. People are impatient... but they're also complicated, varied, different... and perhaps they're in a different phase if life. There's no one shot remedy to finding love, you need to learn about the other person before you can begin to even think if an approach. You're better off just getting on with your own life and just keep an open door for someone.

6:50 hahahah when vaush showed up, in that context I had such a laugh cramp. XD Well played.

Could we also take a moment that these "elders of the manosphere" would be nothing if there wasn't a demand for them? The fact these movements are so loud, and possibly growing I think shows us there's a huge problem with boys and young men in terms of loneliness. Perhaps influencer culture, online dating, pronography all have huge impacts on this- for both men and women- and d-wads like Roosh and Tate are simply profiteering off the epidemic loneliness, confused, depressed, and hurting men out there... Which I would argue is their biggest and most damaging crime. We see similar things with the "bossb*tch" "don't need no man" culture with some women's groups. This toxic rejection of the other sex (I think) is because as they see it; if these specific types of hyper-competitive borderline narcissistic people aren't winning, then they must be losing. And that mentality is no foundation for a stable personality.

Adam, I found your channel through your Urbanism content but your analysis of the world as it happens is so interesting. You touch on so many topics with research, nuance, and class. Thank you

Lmao that article in 0:51 which states feminist women don't deserve electricity because a man invented it, while using a picture of Nikola Tesla. Tesla was a feminist, and he wasn't quiet about stating how women should take place in politics and have equal rights.

Missed these debunk vids! It's a nice change of pace from the usual horrors. Good vids!

Perceived problem: You have trouble dating your peers Solution A: better yourself and learn to treat people with respect. Allowing you to build meaningful, balanced and long-lasting relationships. Solution B: move to a country where your mediocre American income makes you relatively rich, keep objectifying possessions and people and be quick to anger when they objectify you for your money in return. Solution C: buy an assault rifle and take it to a school or shopping centre for some target practice Yeah, it's really a toss-up, how could one possibly tell the difference between these options?

It must be awful to be sexually attracted to people you absolutely despise.

As a woman, this sphere just really scares me. Thanks for the ongoing counterweight. (Also as someone studying traffic and mobility engineering your channel is gold for various reasons for me, keep it up!)

I used to frequent the RooshV forums years back and it was filled with the most hateful,pseudo-intellectual,insecure,misogynistic grammar nazis to ever congregate. I bolted after a couple of months of lurking and made fun of Roosh after getting alcohol thrown at his face in Montreal.