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A Direct Conversion Receiver for WWV! 

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@Paul_VK3HN
@Paul_VK3HN 2 года назад
Another informative and enjoyable video, thanks! You answer every question that comes to mind, which is satisfying. I had not realised that 9545khz crystals are readily available, that makes a fixed 10mhz AM WWV superhet achievable. In my limited experience AM detectors are not quite as easy as they seem. I've had some success with an infinite impedance JFET detector. I'd like to see you take a look at the AM detector options for homebrewers sometime.
@ovi_4
@ovi_4 4 месяца назад
This video definitely only applies for the people from North America and unfortunately not available for the reshot of the world IE: Europe.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 месяца назад
I live in the Mid-Atlantic East coast region, and 5 MHz is far from the most reliable WWV freq.
@dave_dennis
@dave_dennis Месяц назад
I would like to see more detail on how you selected the RF transformer and also how you calculated the Capacitance need for the frequency of interest. While on that top the same detail would be appreciated on selecting the capacitance around the crystal. Thanks for a very informative video.
@todkapuz
@todkapuz Год назад
always nice when you can hear WWVH and WWV at the same time @17:20
@agnelomascarenhas8990
@agnelomascarenhas8990 Год назад
There are some issues with direct conversion receivers. The LO will automatically lock to any nearby carrier unless perhaps there is good isolation. The second issue is the high gain in one frequency band (audio) results in oscillations or artifacts of oscillations through power supply coupling. Another issue is every component becomes a microphone. It was a long time ago I built a DC receiver and I didn't have a proper antenna.
@PaulanthonyBridge-kt4eg
@PaulanthonyBridge-kt4eg 11 месяцев назад
I will never build a DC RX again. I hate them.
@greekstraycats
@greekstraycats 11 месяцев назад
Here in Europe we have DCF77 (77.5 KHz). When I was a kid there were first Microcontrollers like 8749 to decode but it was more fun to build transmitters to play with at railway stations for example... The signal is still active in 2023. Hard to receive in the Southern Greece. More and More the GPS is used or simply accessing an NTP server.
@yakovdavidovich7943
@yakovdavidovich7943 2 года назад
I'm curious about your comment on carrier phase vs LO phase and distorted audio. Carrier phase should only be important for amplitude of very low frequency baseband signals. Receiving AM with a DSB receiver is quirky because of tuning error, where the USB and LSB content don't match exactly unless the LO is exactly centered on the carrier, and they interfere with each other.
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab 2 года назад
Yes, actually I was being a bit critical about the phase difference. With receiving this level of AM it isn't an issue of concern.
@yakovdavidovich7943
@yakovdavidovich7943 2 года назад
@@levelupeelab nice, thanks for the followup. By the way, I've fallen in love with your videos. You do such excellent work; thanks for sharing your activities!
@GAK1atatt
@GAK1atatt Месяц назад
Listen to WWV . . . but why?
@dayleedwards3521
@dayleedwards3521 2 года назад
It would actually be quite easy to phase lock your local oscillator to the WWV signal by using the DC error voltage , LP filtered from the balanced mixer output. A varicap across the crystal trimmer would suffice., pulling it a few 10s of hertz .depending on the error voltage level.
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab 2 года назад
Interesting, I will look into that suggestion.
@normbeaudoin3635
@normbeaudoin3635 2 года назад
Very neat !! Thanks ! That would be really cool if there were kits for those on all of the WWV frequencies.
@SaulMonteiroYoutube
@SaulMonteiroYoutube 2 года назад
Thank You! Regards from Brasil!
@radiotec76
@radiotec76 Год назад
Once I saw your video on a DC receiver for WWV I was interested. When I saw the Johnson Viking Adventurer in the background like the one I own, I scrolled down and when I also saw the Heathkit RF signal generator which I own I subscribed. Cool video! Oh, I had one question. Given that a doubly-balanced mixer/detector will suppress AM why do AM signals like WWV get passed through to the LM-386 audio amplifier?
@sathyamurthyponniah124
@sathyamurthyponniah124 Год назад
@dondegregori- you should be able to pull out three 10.7 mhz IF transformers from any discarded Japanese FM receivers !
@petertyrrell6690
@petertyrrell6690 2 года назад
Great video. If your local oscillator and input frequency from WWV are at exactly 5MHz , you should get no output from from the NE602 and will hear nothing from the lm386 as the difference of the signal from WWV and your LO will be 0Hz and the sum will too high and filtered out. If you can pull your crystal oscillator 1KHz to pickup an AM side band then the the voice information should be clear. I might build your circuit but use my reference generator to replace the crystal in your circuit and tune for a volume null, then my signal generator should be "exactly" in tune. Thanks for sharing.
@tubeDude48
@tubeDude48 2 года назад
What's the value of C7 Trimmer?
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab 2 года назад
I used a 7-40pF. It was from an assortment of surplus ones that I had on-hand.
@dondegregori1794
@dondegregori1794 Год назад
I notice in the schematic C2, C4, C8 and C11 values are all 10 nf, which is 0.01 uf. What got my attention was C2 in power supply filter. Most similar PS designs seem to always use a 0.1 uf or 100 nf to filter high frequency noise, along with a 10 uf for low frequency noise. The other two 10 nf in the base band filter most likely are correct. I'm not trying to be picky. C2 and C4 are probably OK as they are of 10 nf. Any word of a new DC superhet receiver in the works for WWV reception?
@dondegregori1794
@dondegregori1794 Год назад
From myself. In checking the data sheet for the SA612A, C2 is shown to be 10nf, not 100nf or 0.1uF as I thought. However C4 should be 100nF or 0.1uF, not 10nF. So I was half right!
@olivierconet7995
@olivierconet7995 Год назад
Very well explained, thanks
@w9wcvarcamateurradio44
@w9wcvarcamateurradio44 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. Is there a schematic I can use to build ? Good job!
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab 2 года назад
Thanks! Yes, the schematic starts at around 6:15.
@zhixianjin8754
@zhixianjin8754 2 года назад
Very good and video and music taste. You are so knowledgeable!
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab 2 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@dondegregori1794
@dondegregori1794 Год назад
Also, having a heck of a time finding the 42IF123-RC 10.7 IF transformer. Can anyone suggest a substitute that works?
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab Год назад
You can buy them at Dan's Small Parts and Kits. However, he had stopped taking orders for a while but I see he's back open again.
@dondegregori1794
@dondegregori1794 Год назад
Thanks I did the IF xformer at FAr circuits
@mohinderkaur6671
@mohinderkaur6671 Год назад
just use a toroid core t50-2 or smaller like t37 or t23-2. wind it. or even an aircore solenoid inductor on ballpoint pen, about 30 turns.
@mje3055
@mje3055 Год назад
i liked
@dondegregori1794
@dondegregori1794 Год назад
Could I use a proto breadboard just to test, and then build on copper clad board? Don
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab Год назад
Yes I think that would be fine, these frequencies are pretty low.
@dondegregori1794
@dondegregori1794 Год назад
@@levelupeelab Finding a 5 MHz XTAL is hard. If I chose 10 MHz to receive instead, what do think C3, C4 and C16 values would be? 10 MHz XTAL are all over.
@jamesrafael6794
@jamesrafael6794 Год назад
How about using a beverage antenna?
@mohinderkaur6671
@mohinderkaur6671 Год назад
why not an active antenna - basically a fet or mosfet as emitter follower and a rod antenna
@atakaravelioglu301
@atakaravelioglu301 2 года назад
Can i ask why did you use R4,5 resistors? Is it required?
@levelupeelab
@levelupeelab 2 года назад
According to the reference design info that I used for my version here, R4 and R5 are necessary to set the input bias for the LM386.
@atakaravelioglu301
@atakaravelioglu301 2 года назад
@@levelupeelab Thank you, i will use.
@chronobot2001
@chronobot2001 Год назад
WWV ? I'm worried about WW3 and you are talking about WWV? How insensitive...
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