A DISAPPOINTING START? 4M VIEWERS FOR SPACE BABIES! RATINGS REVEALED! Doctor Who News!

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A DISAPPOINTING START? 4M VIEWERS FOR SPACE BABIES! RATINGS REVEALED! Doctor Who News!
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Doctor Who is a British science-fiction television programme broadcast by the BBC since 1963. The programme depicts the adventures of a Time Lord called the Doctor, an extraterrestrial being who appears to be human. The Doctor explores the universe in a time-travelling space ship called the TARDIS. The TARDIS exterior appears as a blue British police box, which was a common sight in Britain in 1963 when the series first aired. With various companions, the Doctor combats foes, works to save civilisations, and helps people in need.
Beginning with William Hartnell, fifteen actors have headlined the series as the Doctor. The transition from one actor to another is written into the plot of the show with the concept of regeneration into a new incarnation, a plot device in which a Time Lord "transforms" into a new body when the current one is too badly harmed to heal normally.
The fourteenth series of the British science fiction television programme Doctor Who is set to premiere on 11 May 2024, and is expected to air through to 22 June. It will be the fifth series led by Russell T Davies as head writer and executive producer and the first since his return to the show, having previously worked on it from 2005 to 2010. This series is set to be the fourteenth to air following the programme's revival in 2005 and will be the fortieth season overall. The fourteenth series was announced with Davies' return to the programme for its 60th anniversary in 2023 and beyond, with Bad Wolf becoming a co-producer for the series. The series is referred to in marketing and promotional material as "Season One" following the production changes and the acquisition of Doctor Who's international broadcasting rights by Disney+.
The series stars Ncuti Gatwa as the Fifteenth Doctor, a new incarnation of the Doctor, an alien Time Lord who travels through time and space in the TARDIS, which appears to be a British police box from the outside. The Fifteenth Doctor was introduced in "The Giggle" (2023) through a "bi-generation", in which he split from his predecessor, the Fourteenth Doctor (David Tennant), rather than replacing him. The series also introduces Millie Gibson as the Doctor's newest companion, Ruby Sunday.
The series, which was preceded by a Christmas episode on 25 December 2023, will consist of eight episodes, which have been directed by Julie Anne Robinson, Ben Chessell, Dylan Holmes Williams, and Jamie Donoughue. Alongside Davies, who wrote six of the episodes, the writers include Kate Herron, Briony Redman, and former showrunner and head writer Steven Moffat. Filming began in December 2022 and concluded in July 2023. It was the first series to be produced at Wolf Studios Wales following the move from Roath Lock Studios for the preceding anniversary specials.
Auditions for the role of the Fifteenth Doctor started in December 2021, assisted by casting director Andy Pryor. Davies was interested in casting "new talent" and someone "younger", with most of the actors who auditioned under the age of 30. There was also no limit on gender and background, with auditions held for men, women, and one non-binary actor. Pryor said that when casting the Doctor, "you always want someone unexpected... an actor who contrasts with what's gone before yet still brings those essential qualities that the Doctor has". Ncuti Gatwa was the final candidate to audition for the role. Davies said that the production team "thought [they] had someone and then in he came and stole it", describing it as "the most blazing audition". Executive producer Phil Collinson stated that Gatwa "did things with [the role] that I'd never seen an actor playing Doctor Who do".
On 9 January 2023, the BBC announced that Aneurin Barnard would appear as the mysterious Roger ap Gwilliam, and that Jemma Redgrave, having reprised her role in the previous series would continue to appear as Kate Stewart during the fourteenth series. On 20 January 2023, further casting announcements from the BBC revealed that Anita Dobson and Michelle Greenidge would appear as Ms Flood and Carla Sunday. On 3 April 2023, it was announced that Jinkx Monsoon would play a major antagonistic role in the series, called "Maestro". On 5 May 2023, it was announced that Jonathan Groff would play a key role in the series. On 24 May 2023, the BBC announced that Indira Varma would join the series to play The Duchess. On 7 June 2023, Bonnie Langford was announced to be reprising her role as Mel Bush for the series. On 15 June 2023, Lenny Rush was also announced, to play a "mysterious" character named Morris. Alexander Devrient will reprise his role as Colonel Christopher Ibrahim.
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@wantacupoftea 2 месяца назад

Space babies should never have been put first, it pretty much punched a load of people in the face and guaranteed they would not carry on watching.

@GuyClapperton1 2 месяца назад

If Tharries' theory is correct and we're watching some sort of Truman Show thing in which the Doctor is captured and manipulated (I favour the "miniscope from Carnival of Monsters" theory I've made up, which would explain why they're manipulated as well as captured) then the 'babies and the bogeyman' story might make sense as a scenario into which the Doctor has been inserted. The problem is that they used it to kick off a new season, also that if the theories are right they won't count for much because the casual viewer will have switched off. And missed "Boom" which would be a shame.

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

@@GuyClapperton1 a very big if.

@wilhelmhedin8845 2 месяца назад

Living plastic was similarly iffy choice.

@wheatley9601 2 месяца назад

I don't get why they would start the series with an episode that's so weak, even in premise. 'Space Babies' was never going to get a lot of interest, especially when it's supposed to be the grand start to a new era

@joelmole3157 2 месяца назад

Apparently the original plan was to have Space Babies air immediately after The Church on Ruby Road, making the latter the opener. But RTD wanted to give the VFX team time to finish it so it was pushed to May. It's also telling than on Disney+, they listed The Church on Ruby Road as episode 1 (according to Crispy Pro). It does make sense because in series 1, Rose was the normal opener and then it jumped straight into silliness with The End of the World. I suspect RTD wanted to repeat that process here but the scheduling went wrong.

@JDPrice94 2 месяца назад

I think it’s more to do with having the season start so long after Christmas, had space babies aired a week after New Years say, then I think the viewership would have been better. Massive misstep to air in May.

@kbg12ila 2 месяца назад

Honestly what the first episode was doesn't matter that much. Even if Devils chord or boom were the first episodes it wouldn't have changed much on the viewing figures. Plus it makes A LOT of sense to make the first episode a more family friendly story than something like Boom.

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

It’s because there trying to get a younger audience involved plus it’s just a fun episode people don’t understand that they want serious stuff

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

@@joelmole3157 That makes sense. Space Babies definitely has an "Episode 2" vibe about it. For me, it feels in the same category as End of the World, New Earth, Beast Below, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and Smile.

@andrewraphael3800 2 месяца назад

I think the monthly figures are the numbers the BBC will be looking at - it's been advertised as a streaming show now (i.e. watch it when you want), so we should expect it to behave as such.

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

The only problem is the previous 28 day plus laptop/phones views have never added more than about 300,000 to the total viewers. 95% in the UK watch it in the first week, with about 60% on BBC1 on the evening of issue.

@cmc2838 2 месяца назад

These numbers are lower than the Whittaker era, and that era nearly cancelled the show. After the next season, i honestly think we are looking at a 10 year hiatus.

@JamesThomasJeans 2 месяца назад

Depends entirely on how it's doing on streaming.

@cmc2838 2 месяца назад

@JamesThomasJeans The only place you can stream DW in the UK is on the BBC Iplayer or illegal streaming sites, and we can see how atrocious the numbers are for the Iplayer. The Disney+ numbers outside of the UK are irrelevant. Without the UK audience, there is no Doctor Who.

@cmc2838 2 месяца назад

@JamesThomasJeans I did reply to you, but it seems to have been deleted. We've already seen the consolidated ratings, and they are at Historic lows. You can only stream DW in the UK on the BBC Iplayer or illegal streaming sites. The Disney+ ratings are irrelevant because without the UK audience, there is no Doctor Who.

@xsm5525 2 месяца назад

a hiatus would do it some good

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

@@JamesThomasJeans who has been deader than dead in the US, Australia since Matt Smith left

@tobiaspendlebury5894 2 месяца назад

In fairness they told us to touch grass

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

If by "us" you mean "haters", then yes - Ncuti was specifically answering a question about haters when he came up with the "switch off, watch something else, touch grass" quote. If by "us" you mean "fans in general", then you're mistaken, as Ncuti wasn't referring to them.

@squirrelarch 2 месяца назад

We're in a very different TV environment now. I'd dearly love to see a demographic breakdown on those figures which aren't likely to be part of how they're recorded. I did think the launch was late really. Should've been easter. I get the double billing ahead of Eurovision but not sure it did them any favours. Maybe the era of scheduled TV is nearly over and you just have to drop box sets and let people work their way through now (disclaimer:I know nothing)

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

Theyre available. I think Yellow Flash covered them a couple of days ago. The majority of the audience is adults (about 90%) from memory

@nebula8851 2 месяца назад

So here's the ACTUAL truth. You're never going to get Tennant-era numbers again. They were a fluke when the show was basically a glorified soap opera, in a time and period when interest in soap operas and TV shows were at their peak, and before the dominance of streaming services. It's been 15 years since Tennant left, and that's a LONG time in terms of viewing habits these days. There's thousand of easily accessible channels, streaming services are now fully mainstream, fewer and fewer people are watching TV period, live service video games are now more common than ever, and anime's practically mainstream. There's so much more competition for people's attention these days, and it isn't some sort of malevolent "The Doctor's Black so I hate him" (unlike what CERTAIN anti-fandom types would have you believe) sentiment, but simply because people change and move on as time passes.

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

Matt Smith did as well. So did Capaldi series 1

@XconsigliereX 2 месяца назад

Well said 👏

@Cybermanalf 2 месяца назад

Honestly in the context of the time of year and everything else, this honestly aren't even bad! As much as we want mad huge numbers these are honestly decent realistic numbers for ths time of year! I guess they might try and speed up S2 to get that out earlier in the year for 2025?

@SteveODonnell 2 месяца назад

I genuinely dont think 4 million is bad at all. Boom on Saturday was still the most watched program on BBC One on Saturday. So thats a win and clearly shows how the TV landscape has changed. Less people watch TV now.

@davidblyth6886 2 месяца назад

Ah whovian RU-vid...where cope is king

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

@@davidblyth6886if your not a fan of the show go away your just bringing all us fans down it’s not good

@SteveODonnell 2 месяца назад

@@davidblyth6886 the only cope is from you. Can't stand that the show is still doing great and still popular or that millions still love it. So good bye and taking your negative nancy behaviour elsewhere.

@jamesturkmen5025 2 месяца назад

@@aaronvasseur6559I’m a massive fan of the show but you all need to realize these numbers are bad and not a good sign of the longevity of the show.

@jamesturkmen5025 2 месяца назад

@@SteveODonnellbrother I love the show, I’m not coping, I want to the show to succeed but these numbers don’t bode well, and on top of the Disney plus numbers aren’t good Disney won’t renew the deal, what happens then? Back to BBC with the 4 million or lower numbers?

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

On the audience, it's worth pointing out that the Tennant specials did about double on overnights and much the same on iPlayer. These were better than Jodie, and the average so far is as low as Jodie's final season/specials. TheUK audience prognosis is clear. The UK TV viewing population doesnt like this fantasy style.

@DWFanChanKor 2 месяца назад

Not gonna lie, I was really shocked at numbers, but likewise, once I found out that the general TV programmes made similar performances in terms of viewing figures numbers, I kinda feel "Hmm maybe that's okay"

@davidblyth6886 2 месяца назад

This show could pull in 1 viewer and you'd say it was fine

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

@@davidblyth6886it really is fine that’s why

@Sparx632 2 месяца назад

@@davidblyth6886doing the same as other shows is disappointing but it’s obviously fine since the other shows are still going.

@ness3421 2 месяца назад

I've just read on the Radio times that these figures from BARB only include Iplayer views between Sat Midnight and Monday Midnight, it doesn't include any views from the rest of the week. So it's only 48 hrs worth of views/streams.

@janliska8489 2 месяца назад

They had a mistake in that article. They've already corrected it and confirmed that this really is 7 days numbers. So yeah - it's bad.

@Scarlett90 2 месяца назад

@@janliska8489 Nah its not, four shows broke the 5m mark that week and three of them were event TV, every other show is around the same as Doctor Who

@StevieG-zb3rh 2 месяца назад

@Scarlett90 and to further your argument and back up what youre saying, the week before that, only 4 shows broke the 5m barrier, 2 of which were event TV. This shows that there aren't that many programmes which pull in massive TV viewers anymore, even after 7 days. TV audiences across the board are declining. From that week to last week, Britain's Got Talent lost 1.1m viewers, and Race Across the World lost half a million viewers. Are these programmes also failures? The press doesn't seen to be saying that! All the people saying that Disney Plus haven't been saying how big the figures have been means it's a failure...it was publicised at the time of the 60th Anniversary Specials and the Christmas Special how successful they'd been! This is the continuation of a series, so they're hardly likely to shout about it again, are they?

@ness3421 2 месяца назад

@janliska8489 Fair enough but I don't think 4m is bad at all.

@PixarPins 2 месяца назад

Richard Osman and Marina Hyde’s podcast The Rest Is Entertainment talked about the opening episodes. They gave a good explanation of the new funding model, predicted the episodes would end up at 4m consolidated mark and said the BBC would be ‘very happy’ with that. They are very in the know in terms of entertainment and the BBC specifically so I think they have the authoritative take. Ultimately very hard to compare it to things like BGT and Coronation Street that are best enjoyed at/shortly after broadcast and aren’t available on other platforms. That being said I do think Space Babies was disastrous as an opener, practically everyone I know tuning back in after dropping show during Chibnal areas have dropped it again after seeing the episode. Those who stuck with both opening episode even more put off by Devils Chord (in isolation not as bad but with space babies seemed to be making a bold statement not to take the show seriously anymore, odd as the following two episodes do seem very serious!)

@kalwild80 2 месяца назад

article that says these numbers are only counting the weekend that the first 2 eps came out

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

Correct: _"According to BARB... these figures include those who watched on BBC iPlayer from the show's release on Saturday until the end of Sunday. _*_They do not include viewers who tuned in from Monday onwards_*_ "_ (Source: Radio Times)

@StevieG-zb3rh 2 месяца назад

Yep, so 4 million in 2 days is pretty decent! And most of the rest of the Top 10 was of a similar figure, so are those programmes doing badly too?

@Rogers1000 2 месяца назад

No that's over 7 days

@joelmole3157 2 месяца назад

Yeah this is pretty bad, I won't lie (just to clarify, I want Doctor Who to succeed, I'm not one of those anti-woke morons and I'm okay with this new series so far). Even the rankings are pretty poor, especially compared to the 60th and The Church on Ruby Road. I think the May release did harm it. The viewing figures for series 10 for instance were shockingly poor because they were released in April/May time. I heard RTD intended to release it in Winter to keep the momentum going but had to delay it to give the VFX time to work on it (a very commendable act, may I add). I also think the midnight release hurt it too since a lot of people I know (not just online) got very confused and angry about it and I think I'm the only one in my circle who did watch it at midnight. I do agree that it's not about wokeness. I think people need to go outside and actually ask people what they thought of it, rather than their online buddies. Maybe they should touch some grass and talk to real women while they're at it. I'm very curious to see how the Disney+ numbers did because of how much they're riding on their involvement but they're notorious for keeping their viewing figures hidden.

@R.senals_Arsenal 2 месяца назад

Yeah, what you said. 🤣 Keep making comments I agree with like this to cut down on my need to type it myself. Thanks for that. 😉

@TheManInBlueFlames 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately the wokeness is the problem and it will only get worse from here.

@jamieds6538 2 месяца назад

@@TheManInBlueFlames there’s been little to no ‘wokeness’ in the past few episodes what are you on lmao

@danielbillingsley8073 2 месяца назад

I think putting the episodes on Disney+ and iPlayer simultaneously has had an impact on these 'traditional' figures. I understand not everybody watches Doctor Who on a Saturday night, and that has been the case for series/seasons past. But I feel putting Doctor Who on iPlayer before it airs on BBC makes the consolidated figures more important than ever.

@Scarlett90 2 месяца назад

Four programmes managed to get over 5m, and three of them were event TV. Doctor Who was pretty much neck and neck with the rest, I wouldn't worry.

@danielbrown383 2 месяца назад

Hopefully we can add another 2 million to the figures, after 28 days, from the BBCi player figures. Even if the show does get axed after the 3rd season, does it really matter? There's a massive box catalogue of Who to enjoy.

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

Never gained more than a couple of hundred thousand more over 28 days multiple screens.

@amos.rand_vfx 2 месяца назад

One thing I haven't seen anyone talk about is how the two episodes coming out on the same day might have affected things. Surely that kind of 'dilutes' the market, and maybe puts casual viewers off.

@Puthkins 2 месяца назад

Not terrible is a bit of an understatement to be fair. I like your optimism, but this is shockingly bad. Yeah, season 2/15 will happen, but him writing Season 3 means absolutely nothing. There is every possibility if it does badly that the show will end. I'm not saying it will at all, but you cannot say what you said at the beginning (the shows not going to end) with any more certainty. So they don't axe it straight away, but Disney don't come back after next year would mean less budget and even less episodes and series. You say how the general public don't know what wokeness is, no they don't I agree. But they go along with what the Daily Mail tells them and places like that hate this show now.

@indianaharris9286 2 месяца назад

People I know who were thinking of watching it started to get slowly more disinterested as each successive trailer or interview kept hyping up how campy, silly, irreverent, silly, quirky, (did I mention silly?) it was going to be. They said they thought it felt like the show was deliberately aiming itself at young kids rather than a family. And….I can’t say I entirely disagree. I thought Boom was a BIG step up, but even then the child actor who was more wooden than an oak table repeatedly saying “where’s my Daddy?” as though she was 5 rather than 12, was very odd imo.

@XconsigliereX 2 месяца назад

Yeah the trailers and promos they made were obnoxious and totally turned me off from the show. I must admit the episodes were much better than I had expected. Not sure who the hell they are marketing this show to now but it sure isn't the long time fans lol.

@nickbrough8335 2 месяца назад

Wishful thinking Tharries. The combined audience of c4 million represents the second and third worse ever (only Jodies's legend of the Sea Devils has been lower and I wouldn't be surprised if Boom is close to that). The US audience at its peak was about 2 million (50 % on BBC America) and disappeared after Matt Smith left. It has shown no sign of coming back since. All of the available data shows that Disney+'s attempts at capturing the non-fan modern audience has failed. The fan audience has been driven away, even if you choose to decree that the old fans aren't fans at all really. Since I doubt the schedulers have chosen the weakest episodes to launch this series, then the only question is how low can it drop. Yes there will be a series 2, but as this was written and shot before broadcast, there can be no course correction, which means the audience is unlikely to grow. Will there be a season 3 ? They may decide to carry one as per per STD, but it will be irrelevant as hardly anyone will watch. The BBC doesnt have the funds anyway (major cuts are being enacted for them to afford the UK and US elections), which implies it is up to Disney.

@StevieG-zb3rh 2 месяца назад

The figures were still ahead of every episode of EastEnders, close to Coronation Street, and the third most watched programme on the BBC, the top of which was Eurovision!

@glazednbased 2 месяца назад

But why are people switching their tv off? Theres more people in the uk than ever before… surely numbers shouldnt be this low across all programming unless people are switching it off because its all just crap

@rf5526 2 месяца назад

Truly it was a confluence of bad decisions across the board: the May delay, the late-night UK premier, the messiness of online discourse, and Space Babies just not being a very good episode. Hopefully they sort it out in the later episodes because the other half of the premier was quite good and Boom was excellent.

@whereami2477 2 месяца назад

I just saw an article that says these numbers are only counting the weekend that the first 2 eps came out?

@cuppajoememes4834 2 месяца назад

Why are some sites saying that it’s just for the first weekend? If so we’re not seeing the full picture here

@redfieldblair 2 месяца назад

I think quality is a big factor. The Christmas special made me very cautious and when the early reviews started coming in for space babies (positive though they were) they had all the alarm bells for RTD troupes that I find grating so I skipped over and waited for Boom so I'd get a positive impression of Ncuti. Personally I'll be watching next week as the early reviews don't have any of the same warning signs, and I'm going back to earlier episodes now. Maybe *some* people will be doing the same. Woke is an interesting word in that even the people who use it don't seem to know what it means, it's just depending on you "progressive things I like" and "progressive things I don't like". I don't think in itself it does any harm - but the press releases *focusing* on it probably did do some harm. Honestly classic who was plenty "woke", you'd just never in a million years get the people promoting the show focusing on that fact.

@simonadams8770 2 месяца назад

I think one of the main problems also happens to be, as an avid you tube watcher I follow Tharries, Who Culture Confused adipose and do get my feed with all that content BUT I also get my feed clogged with a massive amount of haters of the show. I think with the constant negatives being thrown at the show with extremely loud voices it’s going to turn people off. I’m old enough not to let the loud shouty haters affect my own judgment of the show I grew up on and love but I can see how younger audience that have never seen the show could get put off. Alas we live in a hyperbole world where one comment can be taken and run all over the planet and gain momentum even if it complete rubbish. Also other than Dr Who I tend to watch my tv in series blocks, (binge) rather than weekly so if I do that then so do others.

@R.senals_Arsenal 2 месяца назад

If people believe everything they hear from rightwing grifters then our problems are greater than just viewing figures for our favorite show. I've always been on to try things for myself, never follow the herd, but not everyone is wired for critical thinking.

@thevirgologychannel6215 2 месяца назад

I don’t think viewing figures are as important as they used to be like before streaming services became a thing. I mean I doubt the BBC would’ve agreed with the way the show is being broadcast without understanding that there may be an adjustment to viewing figures. They obviously want people to watch but the focus seems to be new subscribers to Disney. Also, ignore all the anti-woke commentary, it’s just people who see an opportunity to make money from their RU-vid platforms. Anger and hate is profitable most of them don’t even watch the show.

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

Streaming started years ago and was already popular during Chibnall era. How do you explain such massive decline in viewership numbers even compared to Chibnall era? He started with more than 10 million viewers.

@jukesy1992 2 месяца назад

@@inquerion8867 A lot of people were not happy with a female doctor, and then after timeless child the viewership dropped more. What I don't understand is how some users say that "true fans" are gone. To me, wouldn't a "true fan" give every era and episode a chance? How can someone be a "true fan" if they haven't seen everything (not counting expanded universe which is gigantic when you put audio into the mix)? I don't just measure a show on it's writing. I'm blind, so I also measure a show on the voice acting, the music and the sound design. If at least two out of those four things resonate with me, it will at the very least peek my interest.

@thevirgologychannel6215 2 месяца назад

@@inquerion8867 It’s easily explained. The wonderful invention of the internet and social media strives to capture attention for profit. It’s harder and harder to get millennials and Gen-z to watched tv. All shows have inconsistencies with their audiences and we do have a tier of creators who rage bait for profit on social media platforms for you to hate a female actor playing what was a considered a male role. I would also argue that BBC publicity leaned into this at times because even hate can be useful and get more people to pay attention. I wager that if you went back and watched the Chibnall era today you may not find it as objectionable as you might have thought. Because the poison isn’t being poured down your ear. I think this affects all of us, me included. I objected to a female Doctor and really had to ask myself why? Because when I was younger I loved the idea of Dawn French or Joanna Lumley as the Doctor, didn’t bother me then but why did it now. I think ratings will eventually mean very little when Disney own everything.

@kbg12ila 2 месяца назад

I'm more curious about the disney plus numbers in the US. I think one of the reasons they advertised it so much there is because they know the UK figures alone could never get to a point that is enough anymore.

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

They don’t care about viewing figures you do understand that no tv company does anymore there is interest in the show and it’s been proven look at the marketing look at the merchandise it’s doing so well look at big finish doctor who as a brand is more popular than it has ever been

@Jamie_Pritchard 2 месяца назад

I've no idea how true it is but I've heard the number 55,000 bandied about.

@jamesturkmen5025 2 месяца назад

@@aaronvasseur6559there was big finish during the wilderness years. None of this automatically means the show is a success. If the show isn’t being watched on Disney Plus what reason would Disney have to renew it?

@Scarlett90 2 месяца назад

@@aaronvasseur6559 On top of that, the BBC isn't beholden to advertisers, as long as Doctor Who is performing pretty decently, it justifies its existence. It was the 4th and 5th most viewed show of the week, above even EastEnders.

@cuddywifter8386 2 месяца назад

Spot on again, Tharries. When it comes to a rational analysis on everything WHO you and Mr Tardis are my go to 😊 thanks guys

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

I'm sorry, but Mr Tardis is not much different from Nerdrotic or Diasparu, but just from the opposite side. N and D are "haters" and Tardis is a "shill". Facts are that these numbers are the worst in Doctor Who history, but does this mean that the show will be cancelled after 2 new Seasons? Possible, but not certain. A lot depends on the rest of Season 1 and Season 2.

@cuddywifter8386 2 месяца назад

@inquerion8867 No he's not, he just spends a little more time debunking their lies and bigotry.

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

@@cuddywifter8386 Sure, sure. I'm sorry for you, you are just stuck in the "shill" information bubble, just like Nerdrotic and Diasparu fans are stuck in "let's hate everything" information bubble. I observe both camps from distance and it's so funny. Like a proxy war. E3 which was actually quite good in my opinion, especially compared to E1 and E2. And this episode actually makes fun of stupid tribalist wars like this one. Only MIC profits matter ;)

@GuyClapperton1 2 месяца назад

This is a shame and the quality is picking up. Thing is that if Ncuti isn’t a success (and I really hope this changes) then they have a problem in that he’s already recording/recorded next year’s episodes, unless they do a second season this year and regenerate him quickly. All that said, I hope the ratings pick up - after Boom I believe he deserves it.

@GuyClapperton1 2 месяца назад

Also, memo to the BBC: If you want a decent splash, launch *one* episode on launch day rather than dilute the thing with two!

@janliska8489 2 месяца назад

Well I am just curious how will everything play out now. These numbers will probably rise. After 28 days they might get to 5 milion. Which would still be a little bit disappointing. I think there might be two reasons for the drop. First - all the focus on the streaming nonsense. People just thought that they can catch it whenever they want to - even after six months. I certainly don't wait with my finger on the refresh button if something streams. I just watch it whenever I want to. Even year after the release. But I think there is better and more brutal truth out there - people just don't care anymore for the show. At least not as many as they did before. So now the question is if it's enough for BBC and Disney. I definitely think Russell and the Bad Wold producers have discussions what's next because they probably didn't expect this. And if it would be a great success on Disney plus they would boast about it by now. So Doctor might be doing ok there but not excellent. Which is sad because I like the show but I think the second series would be its last - maybe BBC orders some big special to wrap up the story and then it's over.

@hereticosjc 2 месяца назад

Tharries I have a lot of respect for you. You're not mindlessly saying this isn't as bad as it looks you're actually saying in context compared to other shows it's sitting well in the charts but you're also right they aren't great. Other RU-vidrs are burying their heads in the sand saying nah its they're fine making excuses. I do think RTD has lost his way and Moffat proved it with Boom.

@matthewchurchyard8552 2 месяца назад

I'm starting this with the fact I love Ncuti and millie - they are great and I love the new series but maybe another end is nigh.

@xlinnaeus 2 месяца назад

Keep in mind we could see the Andor effect and word of mouth here

@CrikeyItsDan 2 месяца назад

Doctor Who has always been "Woke" I think we all get that. But this new era has been to another level. Personally I agree with most of Russel's politics and even for me it's been abit too much, it's as if it's being made exclusively for people on the very very far left, and I think that turned alot of people away. I also think it's been quite CBBC, again it's always been a family show but there have been moments in the Christmas special and Ncuti's first two episodes that make me question as an adult, why am I even watching this, it's not being geared for me. And then you have the midnight drops, the time of year all that. Scariest thing about this is unless your show is a brand new IP and it gets good reviews and word of mouth, new series of established shows usually start out as strong as they are going to be. I absolutely loved BOOM and WBY and if we can get more episodes like that I genuinely do think it will pick back up. In Russell's first era he also included his politics but he did it SO much more subtly, this time around it feels like pushing his agenda is more important than the quality of his scripts. Again wanna clarify I actually agree with Russel's politics, but don't be so on the nose with it, you know? Turns even people who agree with you away, never mind those who don't.

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

Shut up your just chatting rubbish now you have no clue most people don’t watch live tv anymore as long as the show stays on Disney plus and iplayer it will do fine stop with your negativity

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

It’s geared towards people who are ok with unhinged and different if that’s not you fine but you need to leave and let everyone else enjoy the show

@Sparx632 2 месяца назад

What’s very very far left about it? Trans people should be treated fairly? Abortion is a fundamental right? Refugees should be treated better? Capitalism doesn’t have our best interests in mind? War is bad? What about any of this is far left? Most of these are, or should be, common opinions.

@pickles168 2 месяца назад

@@aaronvasseur6559Maybe asking people to leave and stop watching isn't the best solution to dropping viewership lol

@CrikeyItsDan 2 месяца назад

@@aaronvasseur6559 Firstly, this number is NOT just the people who watched on live TV, did you even listen to the video? This is the combined Live TV and BBC iPlayer numbers. Secondly, I didn't personally attack anyone. Just gave my opinion on why I think the show didn't do as well as we would have hoped. Obviously people have personal opinions but general consensus seems to dictate the two most enjoyed episodes so far have Been Wild Blue Yonder and BOOM. What do those episodes have in common? More serious stories that aren't aimed solely at children AND they drop the political agendas, or at least massively toned them down. I've watched this show since 2005. I am allowed to have fair criticism of the show, if you've enjoyed it all so far I am happy for you, genuinely. But literally just 6 months ago they had almost double the audience. People gave the show a chance again when David and RTD returned, if the show is so great why did they all leave again?

@jordanembry9905 2 месяца назад

So it’s still competitive TV that’s now on global streaming and we’re supposed to thjnk that’s bad?

@BlindTimeLord 2 месяца назад

Just wondering what the website is that you use to look at the Disney ratings?

@benknight7563 2 месяца назад

Tharries hear me out, I was just googling and apparently the doctors wife who he had children with in the past was called ‘patience’…. The one who waits?

@BarbusCraft 2 месяца назад

I was expecting the premiere to have around around 6 mil. Too bad, while Space Babies wasnt THAT great, The Devils Chord and BOOM is top tier Doctor Who.

@davidblyth6886 2 месяца назад

The show isnt cool anymore, people have grown out of it

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

@@davidblyth6886 One of the joys of life is that, as some people may grow out, others may grow in.

@philstraintravels9281 2 месяца назад

I'm not sure if I need to be worried or at least a bit concerned with those viewing figures, but as you say Doctor Who still did reasonably well compared to the other programmes on that night and again in the week. As others have said as well 4 million is now a okay viewing figure and even the big hitters and soaps no longer pull in the 10 million figures or long ago. I do enjoy the excitement of a midnight launch and at least for now it's a bit of a novelty but at the same time the past two Saturday nights I've thought "I should be watching Doctor Who on BBC-1 now" and instead spent time scrolling through RU-vid and Disney+ looking for something to watch. While it's fun to get online at 1am and see what others are saying the communal experience of watching on Saturday evening and then going online when "everybody" is awake and chatty, plus not having to worry as much about spoilers.

@triplejazzmusicisall1883 2 месяца назад

Athough the new DW is not to my tastes I do have sincere sympathies for loyal viewers. I do think however we shouldn't pretend the writing is not also part of the issue - I am talking style and narrative not the continual debate on woke issues . Space Babies was possibly just a far too whacky for most and that led a decline. First epiosdes are so important. As Boom was let down in the ratings and from what I gather was yet another very well written classic by Moffat. But RTD's prior episodes obviously took their toll. I think the tone to fantasy over sci-fi is possibly something to be wary of. When I think about Genisis of the Daleks, Blink and all the usual greats very few of them were fantasy based. It is important to give the viewers what they want and not for writers and directors to make assumptions for the masses without foundation.

@Andrew-Vegemite98 2 месяца назад

The numbers includes everyone who watched it in a home with a BARBs box, not everyone who watched it.

@SweptDust5340 2 месяца назад

that’s not how it works sorry to tell you, they work the same as most survey systems it’s a representative sample that is then multiplied out using a very accurate formula to give an overall country wide estimated total. The figure isn’t just people with the BARB box

@Andrew-Vegemite98 2 месяца назад

@@SweptDust5340 I know (I really didn’t describe it well before) for tv views 1 watch + 5000 views. I not 100% but last I read 1 iPlayer/stream = 2500 views. Problem is though, people actually believe there view is counted towards to numbers.

@Andrew-Vegemite98 2 месяца назад

@@SweptDust5340 yeah, 1 view on tv from a BARBS household = 5000 views. And the last I read 1 iPlayer/stream is equal to 2500 views. Thing is, there’s people who think their actual view is counted towards the figures. Strange that I have posted this reply twice. 🤔

@Andrew-Vegemite98 2 месяца назад

Where did my comment go Tharries?

@Rubberduckboy123 2 месяца назад

We won’t truly know the proper numbers until Disney releases their figures.

@Face2East 2 месяца назад

Viewers do come and numbers can still be good. In the UK there are plenty of long standing detective dramas (Vera, Death In Paradise etc) and magazine shows (Countryfile, Antiques Roadshow) that regularly pull in numbers greater than 5 million, and despite their bland simplicity, the views actually have grown. And Death In Paradise, has plenty of black people in it, so I agree, it can't be the reason why viewers turn off. This week Clarksons Farm is got 3times more viewers on streaming than DW, enough to eclipse the combined viewers of a BBC flagship production. All these shows reward viewers for their loyalty and never take them for granted. DW has a rich history of IP that should be able to drawn in so many more numbers than it does. But by actively dismissing so much of it, the producers and creators have been left wanting.

@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 2 месяца назад

Results not great … 2nd and 3rd most watched of the day 4th n 5th most watched of the bbc schedule 10th n 12th most watched over the week of tv in the uk And not to mention this is only the uk Disney plus has it 8th place above the newest princess movie wish and Pixar movie elementals So in conclusion it’s probs impossible to really measure doctor who via viewing figures anymore cause that’s not the what the tv landscape is about now

@jamesa.fitzpatrick1566 2 месяца назад

I think they should have stuck to a March release.

@MrEtherlord 2 месяца назад

We should care about Disney+ viewership. Also considering TV data while the show was already streaming for 19 hours is a joke.

@pickles168 2 месяца назад

Doctor Who isn't available on Disney Plus in the UK, so these viewing figures including every possible way that the UK public watched it.

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

@@pickles168 Only every legal possible way, of course.

@joshuadownes9449 2 месяца назад

Honestly it’s not surprising. My family still haven’t even attempted to watch it because the reviews were off and nobody wanted to stay up till midnight to watch the episodes

@drthete 2 месяца назад

Let’s remember that a streaming led show means a fairly significant number of viewers simply a) haven’t got round to it yet; or b) will be boxsetting it. Some of those will be seen in the +28 ratings, some will be in the +6 month ratings (which the BBC will see). But, as I long feared, Doctor Who is getting too old to attract new viewers as it did in the past. We saw that as long ago as Capaldi’s last series. It’s ‘that show my parents/grandparents watched’. I warned that even RTD returning would struggle to overcome that.

@noneyabizness6094 2 месяца назад

4 million consolidated is pretty terrible, just saying. Given the financial situation Dinsey is looking at in the next two to five years, I wouldnt be shocked to see the show canned if this continues. It just wont be worth funding

@mathieuleader8601 2 месяца назад

after watching Space Babies I thought he was just broody

@Wolfie-p7q 2 месяца назад

I think the only way to save Doctor Who is by going back to its origins. David Bradley is a brilliant actor and played the part of William Hartnell and the First Doctor with honesty. I suspect that globally and with the British fans the way it’s going Doctor Who is finished when Ncuti Gatwa leaves, whether that’s two or three seasons. If the BBC made a Spin-off of the First Doctor of quality, this could be a winner with the fans and audiences of good sci-fi dramas. Maybe this should be targeted at a more adult viewer rather than young children.

@EthanDJC 2 месяца назад

hell yeah a new thomas cardiff video

@dreadtheweekend 2 месяца назад

Any news on what the audience appreciation figures are?

@thelukeofficial9626 2 месяца назад

Hopefully the viewers go up doctor who deserves the most highest ratings 🤞

@JD-bd3xf 2 месяца назад

I think it's the campness of it all

@user-mh8yt9iw1m 2 месяца назад

What were the numbers for Disney Plus?

@fleason771 2 месяца назад

If Doctor Who doesn't break into the US Nielsen charts or Samba TV (The 60th & Xmas special didn't make a dent) then we will never know

@jameswise302 2 месяца назад

The fourth show was almost like the past shows, not bad. However, I think the ratings are lower because people do not know it is on The Disney Channel. I just realized it.

@HenryCLHarries 2 месяца назад

I wasn't a fan of Star Beast either sadly I feel from 2007-2021 every series opener HOOKS you think about it Smith and Jones, Partners in Crime, Eleventh Hour, Impossible Astronaut, Asylum, Bells of St John, Deep Breath, Magician Witch, The Pilot, The woman who fell to earth, Spyfall, the Halloween apocalypse..... Then I feel we've regressed TSB didn't have the same hook as all those ....Rose as an episode is how you really ignite a new era....new earth was the only weak opener until TSB happened .....the specials didn't do much with me and now SB and TDC .... I appreciate TDC loved Maestro but these are all imo so weak ....it's background fodder sadly not immersive or compelling BOOM was the first episode that hooked me ....7 stories into the new era it wasn't perfect but it's a bit late in the game .... 5 more stories I hope momentum keeps up 73 yards has a lot riding on it .... Honestly out of the rest of the era at least I know Moff is writing Christmas so I know at least it'll be solid ....but this era ....I csnt put my fibger on ....I want it to stsy on telly and be shown ....solid ratings 4 million is thr new 6 million .... Next year I think 2-3 will be happening the rate it's going ....I just want great stories

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

Edit: Please ignore! --It's worth noting that the UK has more than 7 million households subscribed to Disney, whose main audience demographic (families with kids/teenagers) overlaps strongly with a large chunk of the Doctor Who audience. Any UK viewers watching Doctor Who on the Disney+ platform won't have appeared in the overnight OR consolidated figures--

@JDPrice94 2 месяца назад

Doctor Who isn’t on Disney+ in the UK.

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

@@JDPrice94 Oh, I didn't realise that. Thanks for the info.

@fleason771 2 месяца назад

You cannot watch Doctor Who on Disney Plus in the UK. The only way to watch it is to either stream it on BBC Iplayer or watch it live on TV on BBC One 📺 only. Disney + is an international distributor outside of the UK

@nathanpetch979 2 месяца назад

We can't watch Doctor Who on disney+ in the UK, so that figure to add to the consolidated figures will be zero. We can only watch it on the BBC

@ftumschk 2 месяца назад

@@nathanpetch979 I'd already corrected it, but thanks anyway.

@AmazingWorldoffanboy0278 2 месяца назад

I wished it could've been better but still not saying much hope you take good care

@paulbyrne2893 2 месяца назад

You can’t watch it on Disney+ in UK so that is irrelevant in terms of UK viewing figures. The fact is the numbers dropped both live and catch up between the two episodes (and then again between eps 2 and 3 on overnights). People are switching off. I’d like to know how many are tuning in at midnight (and why??)

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

Important fact is that the show keeps losing viewers with each episode. People are turning it off and not returning.

@888bangthory 2 месяца назад

Why not ? Not all of us can consume tv in a linear way , I get home from work just in time and avoid the temptation to spoil myself by checking the reactions on Twitter when at work on Saturday night

@firelance3113 2 месяца назад

Consolidated numbers were very poor

@mathieuleader8601 2 месяца назад

RTD's previous run was lightning in the bottle in my view

@Beowolf1uk 2 месяца назад

Interesting to note Eurovision lost 2.4 million viewers compared to last year.

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

There was a quite loud Israel boycott.

@battlep0t 2 месяца назад

@@inquerion8867 There was also Netherlands disqualification which people felt was too harsh.

@adammarshall9077 2 месяца назад

Love this series

@randygoodall6229 2 месяца назад

I honestly believe that we shouldnt event look at Disney plus. DW has never had to relie on other viewing figures before now and has alway don't fine without. Disney show not be use a a scape goat for viewing figures. Low figures should be taken at face value without any excuses

@JamesThomasJeans 2 месяца назад

I haven't watched Doctor Who on TV in over s decade. I started watching via Vudu season pass during series 6, and I've never gone back to TV. People put way too much weight into television viewing figures in 2024. People do not watch TV the same way now they did in 2005.

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

They just released UK streaming numbers for E1 and E2 and numbers are still very bad and lowest in Doctor Who history. Google them.

@davidcarter6491 2 месяца назад

Skip to third episode!

@ianbanks3016 2 месяца назад

The figures are acceptable, but disappointing considering it's the start of a new season and all the publicity that it's generated. However, the trend is already there, I can't see them doing anything but continuing to decline the deeper into the season we get. You're probably looking at no more than a couple of million by the end of the first season.

@nemesisgenesis2995 2 месяца назад

Not sure why everyone treats space babies as episode 1 considering it’s literally not

@donaldmaxwell3428 2 месяца назад

so why did so many switch on after dr who to watch eurovision ??

@mrdr0161 2 месяца назад

Youre comparing Doctor who to a massive event. No other broadcast since Christmas has gotten close to Eurovisions views

@donaldmaxwell3428 2 месяца назад

@@mrdr0161 but those people decided not to watch ?? and there was a lot

@mrdr0161 2 месяца назад

@@donaldmaxwell3428 why would Eurovision fans tune in 2 hours early and watch a show they may not like? You seem to be think everyone in the UK likes Doctor Who. Did you seriously think Doctor Whow as going to get 7 million overnight figures?

@Sparx632 2 месяца назад

EuroVision has always beat Doctor Who, more people care about music than sci-fi, that shouldn’t be a surprise.

@fredo1070 2 месяца назад

@@mrdr0161 Mr Bates vs The Post Office got far more viewers and that was on mid week.

@al56890 2 месяца назад

A lot of excuses but maybe just maybe the writing isn’t all that good and the casual audience don’t care about doctor who. How could space babies be a good starting point for anyone who hasn’t watch doctor who to bring them in and watch the show? How?

@TheMeicrodon 2 месяца назад

I really do think Space Babies should never have been the first episode. I liked the episode, but word of mouth plays a huge part when it comes to streaming, and that first episode was never going to get people to recommend it to their friends simply because of how weird it was.

@scotttobekidding4611 2 месяца назад

I have looked objectively and dispassionately at the ratings and the only conclusion I can draw is that...they're pretty poor. This was a HUGE launch. It had Disney backing and tonnes of money. The cast was on every chat show and POD cast and (most bizarrely) Russell T Davis seemed to be popping up on every tv show going at one point (his ego is off the bloody chart). But none of the publicity or extra cash converted into improved ratings. They have actually decreased since Jodie departed. People have turned off. The media has picked up on the "woke messaging" inserted by Davis' (it is is there for sure), but I think the show has reached an inevitable point: audiences have moved on. They don't care. It's not a show for them, it's a show for the fans: but there aren't enough of them to keep the show alive forever. And maybe that's the thing: nothing lasts forever. All tv shows (apart from soap operas) have a natural life-span, especially sci-fi / genre ones. Maybe we just need to realise that Doctor Who is no different (in that regard) to X-Files, Star Trek, Supernatural, Buffy amongst countless others. Maybe it's time to accept Doctor Who isn't forever.

@applausegenie 2 месяца назад

I work in the entertainment industry. Why are Doctor Who fans SO caught up with ratings numbers for a traditional medium that is now no longer relevant? And woke. I'm getting tired of hearing the word and suspect all those complaining don't even watch the show. When a famous band here in my country did something that could be perceived as divisive, their social media sites were bombarded with messages from haters saying they would never listen to or purchase their music again - or buy tickets when said band had spilt up 10 years earlier :). On investigation their social media manager found many came from organised groups, didn't even live in the country, and had never followed them or commented before. The haters were like moths to a flame - and I suspect the same is happening here.

@arthemis1039 2 месяца назад

People who hate do not watch the episodes. I also suspect many people of "skipping" parts of episodes, just moving forward when they feel "bored"

@applausegenie 2 месяца назад

@@arthemis1039 Haters don't need to watch to spout their rubbish, and that was evident in the case I mentioned earlier. I was the one who gave that band their break in the industry, so I'm intimately familiar with their career. Strangely, when I started asking these so-called 'long-term disappointed fans' tough questions, they had no knowledge, couldn't answer me, and most just went silent and slunk back to where they came from. I suspect the same would happen here.

@jukesy1992 2 месяца назад

Very well said. Hay, I don't know what connections you've got, but can you please pass on some feedback to anyone at the BBC? Which is: I watched Boom at midnight, and as a blind person, I'm so happy the audio description was available, day in date, time on the dot. That's what I call dedication. Contrast this with DisneyPlus who committed to audio describing their programming, but have not audio described the new season of "Monsters at Work".

@TheManInBlueFlames 2 месяца назад

Clearly the current direction isn’t helping the show!

@applausegenie 2 месяца назад

@@TheManInBlueFlames Funny how the "current direction" is always blamed, yet the loudest critics seem more obsessed with outdated ratings and buzzwords than actually watching. Reminds me of what I said about those haters who 'boycotted' a band that had split up a decade earlier-maybe it's time to update the hate speech playbook! And maybe read the posts before replying.

@moniqm3607 2 месяца назад

If Doctor Who wasn't on disney & was available on literally ANY other platform, I never would've signed up to disney ... just sayin ...

@philipdavis4735 2 месяца назад

The first two episodes were dreadful. Boom was a vast improvement. Too early to say whether lower overnight figures reflect modern viewing trends, or the series has passed its sell by date.

@BenWillock Месяц назад

"I don't think the bad viewing figures are about wokeness, most people dont know what that means, all they care about is whether its good or not... Oh wait, no, I take that back!" 😂

@DoubleTMatt 2 месяца назад

tbf they did start with space babies, cant see new people watching more after seeing that ep

@Ted_Curtis 2 месяца назад

Funnily enough between Space Babies and The Devil's Chord, there was only a 2% drop in viewership, so in theory 98% of people who watched Space Babies decided to watch the next episode. I don't think that one episode is the problem here.

@vortexalliance9938 2 месяца назад

I just feel we shouldn't just be happy with "good enough". Seriously feel our standards for the show get lower each year

@Ted_Curtis 2 месяца назад

Less and less people are watching TV each year. Older generations who primarily watch broadcast tv are aging out. Younger generations who primarily watch online short form content are growing. Traditional TV as a whole is constantly declining.

@vortexalliance9938 2 месяца назад

@@Ted_Curtis Then why did the first eps only get 150K viewers for the iPlayer ratings before the BBC One airing. That's barely anything conpared to who watched on TV live. For streaming original shows it might work but everything esle it doesn't and streaming every years keeps getting more expensive it's not gonna last much longer

@curtismckenley8706 2 месяца назад

Tbh i think most people are watching at 12 on bbc Iplayer

@TomoBakerinio 2 месяца назад

Or even just during the day before the actual airing on BBC One.

@icarusandtherabbit 2 месяца назад

The diluted figures are killing the ratings. If Doctor Who was doing well on Disney we probably would have heard about it by now. Some people download the show and others, who were big fans haven’t watched since Capaldi left. There are viewers out there but are wanting the “traditional” 50/50 balance of good and bad episode, like the good old days. It’s a shame that we really haven’t had anything mind blowing with this Doctor yet. Certainly not the Star Wars, Marvel comparisons we were promised. Saying “I’m the Doctor” with about as much gravitas as a wet fart in a jacuzzi didn’t help. Plus “babes” and “honey” feels as out a place as “fam” I’m sure millennial, furries love it “tho”

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

"Millenial furries" are vocal minority though. Majority of fans are moderates. And they are antagonizing them and making them join "hater" right wing side by injecting so much politics and preaching instead of quality entertainment.

@Rogers1000 2 месяца назад

Im sorry im bisexual but theres a distinct overload of queerness for some people, even boom had to slip in a lesbian line, still constructive criticism, this season has, shit acting, some amazing ideas jammed into a 44 minute time frame, this makes for choppy/sloppy editing and sometimes massively incoherent scenes or plot points that are moot or go no where, boom pointless love arc, i think a good fix if they want to keep it at 44 mins is to have 4 two part episodes, get things left on a cliffhanger like they used to, MAKE you want to tune in next week

@XconsigliereX 2 месяца назад

Doctor Who died with Capaldi. The horror of the Chinballs era was just too much. RTD needs to stop with the obnoxious promos for the show as the episodes were much better. Ncuti needs to shut his big mouth.

@edwardcatt2399 2 месяца назад

I’m sorry Tharries - love your positive energy and I get that your bread and butter is derived from your ‘Who’-themed channel here but seriously, how long can you keep shilling + feigning enthusiasm for this crap? 🤷‍♂️

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

Well, he has too. Once Doctor Who is dead, his channel will be dead too. He should already prepare for the worst case scenario and start doing some other non Who related Sci Fi content. Just in case.

@edwardcatt2399 2 месяца назад

@inquerion8867 - I disagree somewhat - owing to a two-season deal they’re still going to be producing this Fruity Ncuti sh*t for another year; our dude Tharries here isn’t obliged to consistently afford it gushing and glowing reviews . . . And there’s also like 60 + years of _Who_ content out there to weave commentary videos out of, so . . . 🤷‍♂️

@juliandarch9278 2 месяца назад

You people are delusional if you think this is ok let alone great viewing figures, perhaps you should come out and touch grass like us.

@oathy03 2 месяца назад

DS has written an article about the upcoming episode 4/5 stars but DS is a site that rarely says anything bad about Dr Who but they say the ending and the returning characters are really starting to feel stale, RTD was gone a long time while they love the story Very much like Donna in Turn left its let down by basically a predicable ending.

@TheManInBlueFlames 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately, the direction of the show has taken a downwards spiral for the worst. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more catastrophic, RTD comes in and reasserts the direction Chibnall had bit doubles down. This caused many optimistic fans to go back to not watching it and the show once again lost the mainstream. Viewing figures will never return to the 00s, mid 10s numbers so long as the political stuff is involved and so long as the actors and writers attack the original fans. Right now only a small niche watch it compared to before.

@user-or3oe4cq6m 2 месяца назад

There is no way this show will continue with ratings like this.

@thekandyman. 2 месяца назад

These doctor who haters aren't doctor who fans. I wish they'd shut up and let actual fans watch and enjoy the show. Not every episode is going to be as good as midnight or heaven sent

@arthemis1039 2 месяца назад

Theses guy hate them too since they never watched the show

@TheManInBlueFlames 2 месяца назад

They have always been dr who fans and are concerned with the direction of the show.

@GorensteinMedia 2 месяца назад

If every single one of the "haters" boycotted the show, it would barely make a dip. But if half of the normies who used to watch Doctor Who quietly chose to do something else on Doctor Who night, then we get numbers like we see here. And to be clear, normies have a little more tolerance for preachy left-wing stories than the typical hater, but they are tuning out for largely the same reasons.

@inquerion8867 2 месяца назад

Good luck keeping the show alive with only "actual fans" (aka left wing viewers). Most people are moderates and they don't like preaching from both far left and far right. They just want some good entertainment.

@wingpang9626 2 месяца назад

😅😅😅😅

@jamiestevens3074 2 месяца назад

I can’t say I’m shocked tbh. I maintained in my head that any less than 5M is an L, especially with all this “ground breaking and insane Disney marketing”

@SWHEWAEW 2 месяца назад

There is backlash with the woke agenda, which indicates the programme is forcing agendas. This may or may not be the cause, but it is known a good storyline will get the viewers in, but there is only so often Daleks and the Master can attempt something devious. I would like to see it a little darker in its tone, which was evened out with humour.

@aaronvasseur6559 2 месяца назад

The show is doing fine stop looking at the viewing figures

@davidblyth6886 2 месяца назад

Start using your common sense, nobody cares but you virgins

@bobdodge8129 2 месяца назад

How to you justify your comment ? Just because you say the show is doing fine that does not mean it is. The very simple fact is that regardless how you watch the show you still need people to watch it to become profitable and if not enough people are watching then the show will be cancelled at some point in the future. Views = £££ so viewing figures are very, very important for any show to succeed. In 1989 the show stopped due to low viewing figures and if Disney views figures are also poor then they will stop funding, its that simple. It does not matter how much people love the show or that 4m+ have watch it, its all about the large volume of people who are no longer wanting to watch it on any device and the reason why so many are now not watching the show has nothing to do with colour, gender or politics but good entertainment. People are not being entertain by the show any more sadly. Dont get me wrong there will be people who will not watch it for some of reasons I stated above but for the majority it is all about entertainment.

@wolfgangbailey3730 2 месяца назад

So, I suspect that the figures are down for multiple reasons, and like you Tharries, I don't think that figures are THAT bad. However, a contributing factor I believe is that Church wasn't amazing, and with the song and dance number... I suspect that will have been a suppressing factor. Most people don't really like song and dance numbers in their drama. So Space Babies and Devil's Chord won't have done much to convince people wavering on it that it's really worth their time. On top of that, the weather has been good, and the gap was too big between then and Christmas. I think the midnight drop has made it feel less like an event. I know people who are proper fans who are just waiting until they can be bothered to binge what's out. There's another big factor: I've been watching on Disney with a VPN, and I know other people who have too, because iplayer's 4k is rubbish and too dark and very blue, and Disney's is vibrant and great. I'm sure most people are still watching either traditionally or on iPlayer, but I'm not likely to be one of only 4 people doing it the way I and the three other people I know are doing Important though, DW was at its most popular when it was actually good, but funny with it. Not when it was primarily a light-hearted comedy show with the odd serious episode

@lanceuppercut3498 2 месяца назад

I'm no fan of the start of this series, but even I'm shocked at that total. That is worrying. I thought it would in the 6m range not 4m!! He won't be, but RTD should be concerned cause if there is no course correction sharpish he may not get a third series. But then again maybe he and his star should of been more carful what they spout