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Just before I went to work for a gas pipeline company, a guy had tried to tap into one of our high pressure lines. He had used a backhoe to expose the pipe. He had a drill rig with a clamp, which would have been the right way to tap the pipe, except his setup was not for a 3000 psi line. They extracted his charred body from the pit, with the drill embedded in his chest. Moral of the story: Don't.
Dealing with hydraulics I am aware of how little pressure it takes to damage the frail bodies we have, unfortunately most people have no idea. Your every weekend pressure washer can mess you up.
They knew and didn't care, this kind of behaviour is common in Mexico, I think is because people have been oppressed and controlled by government, crime and every thing else that people prefer to risk their lives doing what they want rather than listening to authority
Not just a fire. Gasoline itself is unhealthy. It can cause skin rash, damage the lungs, and result in cancer. Also, if you get it into the eyes, the retina can be destroyed, leaving you blind... I've also handled gasoline in not recommended ways before, but we're talking about small quantities here. 1 or 2 liters. On huge quantities you can't even remotely think that you have everything under control and you should just stay the f away from it. It's dangerous af...
Having lived in Iowa back in the early 2000's, when "Meth making" was epidemic, we had several tragedies resulting when a local knucklehead(s) would try tapping high-pressure anhydrous Ammonia tanks that farmers had to fertilize their cornfields. It usually went like this: one or two people would ride out on a four-wheeler in the middle of the night to tap the AA tank, they'd break a valve or something and the liquid AA would come spraying out at several hundred PSI, they'd be found dead the next morning, and a massive hazmat response would follow.
Happened nearby my hometown once. They evacuated several blocks. Stuff smells awful and makes your eyes burn and run. Nauseating too. Yuck. Be careful out there folks.
Who would have thought that a bunch of flammable fuel gushing out of a pipe uncontrollably would catch fire? I would have never have guessed that would happen!
And getting soaked in a fountain of gasolene is totally worth it, if you're getting a free bucketfull of fuel. You'll likely have a rash over your entire body for the next few weeks and your clothes will stink of the stuff so you might as well throw them away but a bucket of fuel is a bucket of fuel.
The uncensored video of this disaster is quite horrific. You can see people running covered in fire from head to toe. There was a similar pipeline explosion like this in Nigeria some years ago.
I'm going to have to find that footage. It'll be nice to see some thieves get some sort of justice. I'm sick and tired of watching them get away with everything these days.
At one time I worked for a pipeline company and was the first on the scene at a major pipeline rupture. It released a half a million liters of gasoline in to a field in a matter of minutes. It was a sixteen inch diameter pipe that had the potential flow rate of almost a million liters per hour at a pressure of 80 Bar. I remained on-scene for about eighteen hours and was joined by almost fifty company representatives and more than a hundred clean-up contractors to dig out the damaged section of pipe. It was four meters underground and was hit in the side by a horizontal boring machine from a contractor who was putting in a different pipeline and thought that they were well beneath our line. It filled up their excavation pit (the size of an olympic swimming pool and flooded out in to the surrounding field. We managed to repair the line within twenty-four hours but it took us years to remediate the site as gasoline had entered the ground water (it was also a wetlands). There was nobody there to steal fuel; Sane people stay the frick away from a giant lake of gasoline. We (the employees and contractors) were there because we had to be. If it had ignited.... well, they wouldn't of found much left of us. To say that someone would be burned beyond recognition is an understatement. Some of those people would be burned to ashes and maybe only some bits of teeth would of remained.
I work in environmental consulting, engineering, and remediation. As you stated MOST sane people try to GTF away from pipelines that are broken and releasing into the environment. That’s the difference between a third world country and one where people are educated enough to know when to haul ass. Here if a pipeline breaches the ground surface it’s all hands on who do I sue if it affects their property, and what’s the after effects. In a third world it’s “free gasoline, let’s bathe in it so I can get a gallon or more, regardless of what happens to me down the road.”
A gasoline tractor trailer you see filling up a gas station holds about 9000 gallons (about 34000 liters). The energy content of that amount of gasoline is about 2% of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. If you see a gasoline leak, stay the F away.
Burnt human has a distinct odor. I first smelled it at 12 years old. My grandpa and I had just pulled into the street from the gas station when it went up in a fireball. My grandpa quickly parked, grabbed his black bag, and had me sit with a girl we both knew was not long for the world. I held her hand and watched her fade and die. That experience solidified my resolve to go into medicine. While I’m pretty sure she wasn’t aware of anything in her last moments, I like to think that if she was, she took comfort in me being with her at the end. Grandpa is the reason several of the victims survived that day. He was a surgeon. He never specialized in any field, nor did he shy away from any kind of surgery. He did everything but transplants. Yes, my grandpa is my hero.
I used to work right next to a funeral home. We smelt burnt human almost daily as they where a big operation.. It was a cross of KFC and rotten potato lol
My theory is that someone 'working hard' collecting petrol decided it was time for a ciggy and just sparked up. After a while you wouldn't smell the fumes anymore, and you'd be high as a kite by then and likely incapable of good judgement - although the existence of good judgement is questionable as they are playing in a gasoline fountain.
Saying "static did it" has always felt like the cop out the authorities wanted to make it seem a bit less disrespectful to the families of the guys that died or unprofessional in the news... but yeah it 100% was just a dude who wanted a ciggy, there's no doubt in my mind.
@@Nobody-zl3kkmy thought is that the cigarette companies lobbying governments just don't like it when disasters and notable deaths can be attributed to cigarettes.
I recall watching the video of this fire when it happened. What amazed me was the cars they were driving....15,000-25,000 dollar cars, and they are drenched in gasoline trying to scoop up 5 or 10 dollars worth of free fuel, only to be burned alive. A Mexican man interviewed at the time said, "They just didn't know the danger". Really? Who on this planet does not know gasoline is highly flammable???
They likely knew of the danger in passive terms. Like if they were directly asked they'd say, "Yes, fuel is flammable. If that leak catches fire it would be bad." But they likely didn't even think of it because they were so focused on getting free fuel, and if they did, crowd mentality probably helped assuage any concerns. When you're surrounded by other people doing the same thing you are, it's easier to think that you're safe, cause if it was really dangerous these other people wouldn't be doing the same thing, surely.
Google the average iq for Mexico. It's low. Now keep in mind thse people are probably less than that average. It's quite possible these people are considered functional retarded
More likely those 15,000 to 20,000 cars are stolen from the USA. They end up in other countries too, do a search for " Stolen Canadian Cars in Ghana CBC "
You could not make this stuff up. Watching people standing in a gasoline fountain with buckets just beggars belief. As above, remember the original video, which was grim.
It’s not to hard to imagine what sparked the fire. Someone, out of habit, probably tried to light up a cigarette in the area. With 600+ people in the area, chances are that more than a few would be careless enough to light up while gas is flowing. It happens more often than you’d think and this just sounds like a gas station fire times 100.
@@mii481 I'm looking at Mexican commentary..they say there is video of someone smoking a cigarillo near the leak was. Some commenters say only dirt poor are this stupid, but there are First Worlders who've checked inside gas caps with their lighters. Stupid is our heritage as a species.
chances are if a 1000 people are smart enough to bath in gasoline for a long period of time one of them probably had the bright idea to smoke a cigarette
There was a similar incident in (I believe) India, were people were collecting petrol from a leaking pipeline. As night fell, someone lit a candle, so they could see what they were doing. I think you can guess what happened next.
As mentioned in the video theft from Pemex pipelines is common. The company I work for provides pipeline leak detection systems; we've tried multiple times talking with Pemex about this issue. In the 1990's we did a pilot demonstration project on an old Pemex gasoline pipeline scheduled for decommissioning.... the pilot project was successful and plans were made between our company and Pemex to install the system across many gasoline and refined product pipelines across Mexico. Then suddenly one day, all work was stopped. A few months later we heard certain "high up" officials (either in Pemex or the government or both) had stopped this project because these officials were involved, either directly benefiting from the theft or from bribes. I was very disappointed, I really enjoyed working in Mexico.
@@paulrasmussen8953the problem with annexation is, those Mexicans who would be against it. Annexation could never be accomplished by force, there are too many Mexicans. Better to offer Mexico a free choice to join the USA, which would require at a minimum a constitutional amendment for the US, and some kind of nationwide vote in Mexico. Given the current level of racism in America I doubt the first could happen, and given how shitty many Americans act towards Mexicans, I doubt they would want to join. But it would make sense, both countries would be much better off economically, border problems would dramatically decrease almost instantly, and drug cartel activity would be curbed substantially.
Pemex biggest sin is being an state owned company, it shoud have been privatized decades ago but the goverment is still in love with the Lazaro Cardenas dream of quasi-socialist policies
Never expected to see the Huachicol Fest covered in this channel. Tragic as it was. This is one of the few cases where the consensus in the country was to feel no empathy for the thieves and the amount of memes that flooded social media was extremely high and is still reposted during the anniversary day each year.
Mexico has an average IQ of 87, which means half the population has an IQ lower than that. And a town like that wouldn't exactly be full of Doctors or Engineers too.
@@chrisb.2028 careful about using the term "greedy"... John from this channel only cares when _corporations_ are greedy, not the _underdog_ working class.
It was nice of the government to pack up the fuel into conveniently-stealable trucks instead of making the thieves extract it from a pressurized pipeline
better a truck worth some hundred thousands than a pipeline worth millions, is not like the where sealing the pipes when they where done either, so it's safer too for the surroundings.
I want to mention that only a couple of years before this was when "el gasolinazo" happened, which was a massive mark up on gasoline basically doubling the price in as little as 18 months. The price never really went down, and that's why huachicol (stolen gasoline) really started being big business. So essentially this was a direct consequence of that, and of course the government was a big part of it with its monopoly on fuel in all of the country. Also, I smiled at the pronunciation attempts of the Mexican city names and 'huachicoleros', but I really burst out laughing whe you said "mexican dollars" lmao.
@@chrisstott3508 Do me a favor and quote me verbatim on where I said they were not responsible. After you can't, sit down and consider your biases and prejudices.
@@theshrike6428 You sought to reduce the culpability of the criminals by attributing causation to the government: "essentially this was a direct consequence of" "a massive mark up on gasoline basically doubling the price" "of course the government was a big part of it" Why didn't you answer my question? Under what circumstances do you think criminals are responsible for their crimes?
@@a.r.h9919 leave away the covered in gasoline thing but as someone that restores classic cars I can't even imagine how they can even stand there and breathe at those concentrations of gasoline fumes in the air.
@@NinoJoel why you think many of them were sloppy and slumbering due to the fumes and thinking less clearly ? It was a time bomb and you'll be surprised the amount of ignorance there actually is towards the dangers of a leak and many people knew this and still went it for greed not necessity believe me most of this people were plundering
When I was doing private military work in West Africa protecting a water well drilling crew for a charity operation we had a fireball go up a few miles east of us. Apparently a stalled semi full of groceries and a surprising amount of cigarettes got rear ended by a tanker truck full of gasoline. The tanker was leaking and a bunch of villagers descended on both to loot them. Fortunately casualties were low due to someone among the first looters on scene lighting a cigarette early in the heist before the rest of the village had time to get there.
Something similar happened in Guadalajara in the '90s, although as I recall, in that case it wasn't caused by fuel thieves, but rather a carelessly built pipeline that ended up more or less filling the sewers downtown with gasoline. The usual Pemex incompetence, either way. There was a _Seconds From Disaster_ episode about it, I think.
Yup, a badly installed Pemex pipeline ended up leaking gasoline into Guadalajara's water supply. After people had been complaining about it for days with little response, it finally blew up a decent chunk of the city. The Seconds From Disaster episode was rather memorable.
i have a very hard time feeling bad for people who stayed in a dangerous area to steal fuel for multiple hours. Did no one have the sense to think "wow extreme danger". this is different from someone trying to nap on their ride home on a Ferry or a Light Rail.
I feel bad for people who are so desperate that standing around getting soaked in gasoline seems worth it to get a milk jug full of the stuff. That would seem a poor tradeoff to me even if it was guaranteed there wouldn't be a fire, but were I in very different circumstances who knows.
This wasn’t about necessity it was about greed they were warned several times in 2019 which is when it peaked. Many times the Mexican marines would confront these people and the “innocent” people would have violent confrontations. This incident really brought to light how much was out there and many places were raided after this. I am sorry 😞 but it had to happen for it to stop.
Ask most Mexicans and they will tell you the same: this people more often than not knew what they were up against and the risks and still went to steal gas bringing even their children, literally showering themselves in gas and I kid you not smoking, many of them did not do this for necessity, even the reasons why there was the need to have the revision of the gasoline at a national level was due to the fact that there was an staggering amount of corruption and bad gasoline being used in the country literally around 70 to 80% of pemex was selling poor quality gasoline, borderline huachicol and it did more damage to the cars and environment than anything
"Oooh a gigantic stream of petrol is shooting out the pipe, lets have some." Yeah well worth to die over some free petrol... Even if I was that poor, I would never be stupid enough to get that close to a shitshow like that. What did they expect?
I was in mexico when this happened, everyone was having fun at night, almost like a festival. Then there was an explosion, then there were sparks of light moving through the fields. People covered in gasoline and flames screaming, children and dogs included. It was one of the worst tragedies I witnessed in Mexico, second to the earthquakes of 2017 and 2019
I love your videos and the style: informative and entertaining without being unnecessarily grisly or dramatic, while also being respectful. That said, the opening music scares the crap out of me.
Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions... Hey, let's go and fuck around in that big gasoline cloud... This is literally Darwin at work.
Who in the hell would run towards a gasoline leak?? I have seen a couple of accidental spills over the years in different shops, but what's that three maybe four gallons. Even that makes me nervous, but it needs to be handled quickly. Forget a freaking pressurized pipeline🤯
What can I say? FAFO? What I dislike the most isn't that this happened, it's that the families of the deceased asked money to the government because THIS HAPPENED. 😑
I always found it confusing that the peso uses the dollar sign. Totally love Mexico, though. Its absolutely worth visiting, or even retiring there. The USA has not been a good brother to Mexico, despite our close economic ties and love of tacos. Damn drug war fucked up that country, and it's a shame. Even if all drugs were decriminalized, the criminal cartels would still wield economic and political power. but, the cartels generally protect the tourists, so, its cool to visit most of Mexico. If you are concerned, some parts of the US are all but indistinguishable. Check it out
I think I know where in Texas some of the victims were sent. Parkland, here in Dallas, has an excellent burn unit. When that grain shed blew up in West, Texas a lot of the victims were airlifted to Parkland for treatment.
Suitably atomised petrol vapours don't even need a spark. The friction between the molecules alone can make it explode. It's not a case of if, it's a case of when.
I don't understand why they got compensation. I mean they where criminally charged for stealing petrol, don't collaborated with soldiers,still compensation? It's mind-blowing
One thing often said in Arizona about why we need to make sure undocumented immigrants don't die in the desert when crossing it illegally is: "Crossing the border illegally may be a crime, but it isn't a capital crime" occasionally with an addition like "and even if it were, that's cruel and unusual punishment." Stealing petrol is a crime, but it isn't punishable by death, and certainly not death by being burned alive in an explosion. They were compensated because they got a 911 call and didn't turn off the flow, which would be _negligence_ on the part of those operating the pipeline. Also, potentially failure to maintain it properly, but it's Mexico, I don't know how much pipeline maintenance standards are regulated there, and enforcing them is going to be impossible in many areas.
@@samarnadra finally someone with a brain and empathy in the comments, whats wrong with everyone saying they think those people deserved it for stealing some fking fuel and being stupid.
@@theOwnuts What? Why? I can empathize with victims of violence, but standing with your mouth open on an open gasoline pipeline while STEALING doesn't mean people HAVE to feel sorry for you as you inevitably burn to death.
John, you rock. Please do the 1985 MOVE incident in Philadelphia USA, where the police bombed a row of houses and burnt down the entire block. Many deaths. Cheers!
Would be informative, since most have never heard of it. However, he would need to research it in-depth. There are many nuances that led to the incident and how it was handled. Dropping an explosive device wasn't ideal and the authorities definitely knew the dangers, but the situation had been escalating for years. From what I recall, far back as 1977 or so. As for letting the fire burn. Initially, for firefighter safety, but some claim authorities stalled until there was near zero chance of anyone still in there surviving. It was surreal to watch on TV.
I love your videos and have just become a member. I would love to see you do a video on the 1975 fire at Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant in Alabama. It all started with a candle, believe it or not. Thankfully, a disaster was avoided, but only narrowly so.....Thank you for your hard work producing top notch content!!!!
As Mexican I have to say that this disaster is embarrassing, it exposed the very worst of us, petty thieves combined with stupidity, plus the absurd populist response of the current administration, indemnifying “victims” and exempting them from any wrongdoing. This paternalistic attitude from the government together with our meek and complacent attitude has crippled Mexico.
Yeah, I still remember that. The hundred of people on the leak was told to leave but non of them did so, the explosion was horrible, there's a raw video from the instant when it went off. Also, some stuff -The Huachicoleros name came because they began to sell altered/stolen gasoline as "Huachicol" (sounds like Wua-Chi-Col), they even sell it on big cities like Mexico City and surrounding suburbs. -When AMLO president came to power, the fuel issue became really hard in all country, I remember that even public transport in Mexico CIty began to be a bit hard to find, as trucks and cabs didnt have enough money to buy fuel, now in outer parts of the metro area the transport became a really hard issue. -Hidalgo State has become something like "Ground Zero" for petrol/gas theives, you can pretty much drive on any of the Hwy's and you'll find little shacks that sell you that fuel for like $10MXN instead of the $20+MXN per litre. -The town Is Tlahuelilpan (Tla-jue-lil-pan) and It's said that more or less half of the population died on the explosion and even the local graveyard was filled up and bodies had to be burried in other nearby towns. -I remember there was some people that was also mad about the people didn't getting charges, because the leak/explosion was thrown under the rug as there's no crime to pursuit everything ended on Pemex saying "Oh yeah, sorry, but that's how thing's are". -Mexican currency is called "Peso", saying Mexican Dollars made my wallet gasp in expectation haha
It's sad that preventable disaster happened. At times some people do some incredibly dumb things when it comes to gasoline or other consumable items when there's a supply shortage. For most of 2021 and well into 2022 there was a Sam's Club gas station in the city I live in that with a membership sold gas for about 5 cents less per gallon than other gas stations within a couple mile radius. Loads of people would wait in line for 30-60+ minutes at a time just to save that small amount. The daily congestion got so bad that the city started requiring off duty police officers be hired to direct traffic and be available to quickly report vehicle accidents as the line would often spill out onto a nearby busy 4 lane road. The gas station started matching the prices of other nearby stations instead of continuing to pay for the off duty officers and the situation disappeared practically overnight. I could only imagine the insanity that would unfold if there was a way for people even here in the Midwest US to get gallons of gas for free, even with the inherit danger of a massive explosion and fire.
A lot of disasters you cover I don't know much about going in, but this one I saw unfold on live TV. I remember seeing the footage before the blast thinking "there is going to be a single moment where this vaporised petrol becomes a bomb" and then, the still live coverage an hour later was just horrible.
Was about to say how stupid have you got to be to go stand in a field soaked with a Fuel fountain. But they must have been so bloody poor to do this knowing that just one small spark could bow and burn them in seconds , that they just didnt care
@@psyxypher3881 did not call them stupid, read what i said again please. was not mentioning the theft of fuel either, was saying the point of putting yourself in danger like that.
My area in Appalachia doesn't have much in the way of oil REFINING but it DOES have a lot of oil and gas extraction. During the 2008-2012 recession and associated gas crisis we had quite a few pipeline explosions lighting up the sky as people were trying to tap the "drip gas" (basically like camp fuel, straight naphtha with a pretty low octane rating) from the condensate tanks at pumping stations in the countryside, most of which are unmanned, unsecured, and in minor disrepair, to mix 50/50 with leaded off-road race gas to make something cheap and untaxed that'd run in a straightpiped car. There's also been quite a few instances of the local last-mile oil companies catching people in the act of tapping the collection tanks at well sites, either for the same sort of drip gas, or for straight crude oil to run through coffee filters for use in diesel engines and oil furnaces, but those usually don't cause any issues except lost revenue. I also heard of QUITE a few people who had abandoned but uncapped wells on their land, or in the National Forest, illegally reactivating them either solely for home-use gas (not uncommon to buy the gas rights from the oil company, you just tap the gas port and install a separator, but it can also be done with dormant wells) or sometimes going as far as to build their own derricks and bootlegging the crude as a cheap alternative to diesel/heating oil.
I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen gas station attendants in smaller Mexican towns, pumping gas while smoking cigarettes, I’m actually surprised it took so long before it all went up.
It's wasn't desperation, stolen gasoline is a huge business here. The most dangerous thing about that people is not their ignorance about how gasoline works, is the fact that they can reproduce and vote.
@@timhinchcliffe5372 Heard the other guy built a wall that Mexico paid for. It’s a shit show regardless, and this war that people like wage on each other based on propaganda, feelings, and false information is the real threat to the country.
Hell of a video to see, yet I still struggle to wrap my head around how insanely dangerous this situation clearly was yet so many were willing to risk it all for free petrol. Either desperation or stupid greed, but damn it would take some serious convincing to get me anywhere near this, even as a bystander.
I remember watching the video showing the complete accident and there were vehicles with people smoking. Not directly over the pipe but enough that people should of noticed. The video showed them running and falling. So many people excited yet knocking on the devils door. The only video that was close was when a Soviet rocket blewup on launch and people running caught on fire
09:12 - $15,000 Mexican pesos = $800 US dollars in that time's conversion rate (Mexican dollars do not exist, they are Mexican Pesos) Out of necessity some people went to acquire this fuel BUT Mexico is also plagued by a false sense of bravado, people thinking "bah what could go wrong" or "Nah I'm way smarter because i took advantage of this situation regardless the situation" people here will loot a flipped truck full of beer ffs I live there, trust me, education is not my country's finest trait
Watching the folks standing in petrol messing around is it only me that has Wham's Wake me up before you go go playing through my head ? Occasionally bleach needs to be introduced into the gene pool.
It really is commendable. In my eyes they fucked around a whole lot and found out. Just like at Lagos. A pipeline is infrastructure and should be public property.
John, you for amazing pronouncing all of those Mexican names and places. I'm from the West Coast of the US, and have been learning Spanish as I go. Great job also on this doc. I always enjoy your short documentaries because you make them so easy to picture in my mind.
Untrue. If you're close enough to a fuel air explosion to worry about suffocation you're already dead or burnt severely. This is especially true with FAE bombs.
This truly was a difficult one to assess. Several players need to examine their conscience and acknowledge their part in the horrific loss of life. This was sickening incompetance.
This is a very nice one. It shows how a huge number of people with little to no knowledge will ignore danger for greed. These cases have to happen from time to time, so that at least some get to learn something.
greed is the company who's mantra is "more than enough, and then more please". desperation is the petty thief's who's mantra is "whatever I can get to get a little bit". CAPITALISM (to the extent that we live under it) creates hoarders at the top of a pyramid, and crumb-catchers at the bottom. There is literally no comparison to the context and position of the people. But the behavior is clearly visible and demonized in the poor. That makes no good sense. A crumb catcher could exert as much energy as humanly possible for their whole life, and they still wouldn't end up with that which a hoarder will have amassed in a fraction of the time. One wants an unending supply. The other wants some of the sum, whatever they can gather. It is so extremely shocking how unable people are to see behavior for what it is, given the context that creates the differentiation itself.
It's Mexico a lot of people don't have the opportunities we have in the US or others have in the UK survival will make you do a lot of things also it doesn't help that their belief system has them having children they can't afford and have no business having in the first place.
Oh man I remember this. news of this was all over spanish news channels here in the states as well and being spanish news it stright up showed uncensored raw footage of the people on fire.
I live down here in Mexico now and also then. I have zero doubt the fire and explotion was caused by someone lighting a cigerett! Yes they are that stupid when the possibility of making $10, $20, or even $100 dollars comes into play in a country where the average daily pay is under $10 dollars a day!
Right, it must be so hard on all those billionaires who lost money to those people that keep in poverty with a huge lack of education. Hopefully they got some kickbacks from tax money to lessen their loss. 🙄
Thank you for this! I absolutely needed a distraction today. I live I'm Maine, more specifically my town is next to Lewiston, so it's been a rough few days. Thanks for all you do brother, you are the man PD!
Wow, sorry about what's going on in your area, and your country. I'm Canadian and don't watch much news, so I had no idea until I looked it up just now. Good luck to you and yours, my man.
Reminds me of a case in South Africa a few years back when some guys tried cutting open the transnet port service diesel pipeline at the harbour, untill the diesel got too hot from all the cutting/sparks ignited and the part of the pipeline they where cutting went boom.
Really? I would think diesel is a lot safer to steal from a pipeline then gasoline, when you see how much harder it is to ignite. Seriously, you can throw sigarettes in a pot full of diesel, try to light it with a lighter, etc, and it won't ignite.
Considering the victims were engaging in, not only technically criminal behavior, but more importantly, something incredibly dangerous and stupid, it's pretty hard to feel particularly sorry for them.
They knew the dangers. They accepted the risks. They paid the price. Simple as that. All for liquid pollution. Hard to even feel anything other than disdain for idiots like them.
"Tla hue lee pan" "High-dalgo" you really Britished those up! 😁 More seriously, this is good stuff, please keep it going! Just bear in mind that those of us on this side of the pond might cringe a little at your pronunciation of Mexican names 😘
I believe it was John Oliver who joked about this anglicization of foreign words being heavily ingrained British behavior due to their history of colonization of many countries. Gordon Ramsey's pronunciation of the word "fillet" still hurts my ears. And he spent time in France learning to cook.
@@CarlSmith-p2c there are so many British pronunciations of French and Spanish loan words that are just grating to me. And don't get me started on how badly "wagyu" gets mangled.
@@JosieJOK Yeah, I wasn't expecting him to land that one, and I was pleasantly surprised that he mostly managed the initial "tl" sound pretty consistently. I know how it works because I'm a language nerd who has delusions of someday learning Nahuatl, and I can't always get it right.
Imagine someone tries to steal from you but you have to pay the family money?? Like the company greed to not shut off played a big part but at the end of the day they were trying to steal so sorry feelings aside they were in the wrong. No they didn't deserve to die but ef around and find out 🤷🏾♂️ I think the blame is defs like 80%-20% with the people being the 80 💀 10% is the government and the other 10 is the business 🥶😅
The company is run by the government. I would still say the decision to not shut down the pipe was stupid, but 90% of the fault is on the people that decided it was a good idea to steal gas from a geyser made out of gasoline
Honestly most of us here have no idea to what depths we’d forego safety in order to survive. Worrying about the last of our fuel, managing to get paid to feed our families, heating, harvesting crops, finding work etc We’d like to think we’d have clarity of judgement in their shoes but that’s just the arrogance of dealing with first world problems our entire lives. Starving whilst seeing the rest of the townsfolk parading in a liquid gold strewn all over the place will pushed the very worst of our temptations. I’m sure plenty of people would have taken a few buckets and made it out safe too, which would have emboldened even more people. It’s a huge tragedy and for those of us who feel we’d have been any different, or that our peers would have thought any differently, is incredibly naive. And exemplifies how fortunate we really are.
Exactly they look stupid to us but that os because we are privileged to not be starving and without fuel. The villagers where seeing dollars gushing out and in desperation threw all caution to the wind. One day in the future we may be in their position with climate change pushing the boundaries year after year
Thank you for being a lone voice of reason and compassion here. I doubt that any of these commenters have ever had to worry about where their next meal was coming from, or had to do things they'd look down on from their lofty high horse just to keep a roof over their heads. For most of the world, taking risks is necessary for survival, and there are no soft options. And even in more advantaged countries, there are lots of people, who through no fault of their own, are in circumstances where common sense becomes secondary to desperation. Or as my granny used to say, judge not lest ye be judged.
