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This is a very good flying quad, but my favorite setup is a LoFlo frame, Kiss Ultra FC, Voltara ESC, AxisFlying AF227 1960KV motors, Rush Tank Solo VTX and Foxeer Predator camera.

@@EbrFPV I gather you have LOTS of experience in this hobby. I’m looking to build a quad, so I’ll do some research on some of those items. Love the vids, the stick view, and the music selection - disconnect is a good jam! What country are you in?

First build? Great you're going to build one yourself. If you need any advice, I'lld be happy to help. Netherlands here.

@@EbrFPV I can’t thank you enough for the support. I’m looking at going w the Mr Steele build.. apex, fettec, kiss ultra, and his motors. Coming from a GEPRC mk5 o3, just looking to make something that’s better and have the mk5 as my backup. Mostly for cinematic purpose but with a some ability to try freestyle.

Cool. Apex is a great frame, good choice. Kiss Ultra FC is the best IMO (but I'm biased :)). For ESC I would not get a Fettec. The Fettec 65A, we've heard quite some people having issues getting their quad to fly good. Then again, some people have no issues at all. the Fettec 45A has no issues flying wise, but there's quite some complaints about their durability. I've got some of them, and I have no issues. But if you definitely want a Fettec ESC, take the 45A. I would highly recommend the Voltara 70A though. They will be available soon at the Kiss Ultra store, but they will sell out quickly. If you want one, you'll have to be there at the drop. Keep an eye on the Kiss Ultra Discord to get notified when the drop will be. A good alternative would be the Flyduino 50A Kiss ESC. It's available atm.