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Adam, you deserve monopoly after this game

Adam: they ask you how you are and you just have to say you’re fine when you’re not really fine

What Adam did to Tempest was horrible - Tempest is such a good player and he was essentially taken out for no reason or rather because Adam was selfish. Glad the good team won! I have been watching all these episodes and for this one to be my last watched one was so crap!

Sometimes his plays are too big brained.

@@jekanyikareminds me when he was trying to say he would survive the demon attack, so they could leave him alone as a slayer, but instead then they immediately point at him for execution

Since he also played tempest, he deserved it.

😂😂😂

That is absolutely perfect

That needs to be merch.

Very Ivy Cordova of him lol

I really want him to run an Atheist game so he can still lose

More like if he's a storyteller, he has full license to mess with everyone. It's literally the role. XD

You also never win which he's very good at.

​@@zacdredge3859 as they say "The storytellers win when everyone had a good time"

Should have added the Hell's librarian as a fabled character to hammer the point in

And they still all interrupt and don’t let him say his poems 😂

This

I feel so bad for him. He just had to sit through an hour of Adam's ego after Adam, his only teammate, fucked him out of the game just for a joke basically and so he could go on his own "I'm the main character" game, and he can't even be properly annoyed or it will lose him the game. It would have been petty but justified to just be honest and ensure Adam lost after that.

@@anarchy7535 There are plenty of games where some players are confused about what role or team they are even on. This is the first episode I have seen where it felt like the target of a deception held a real grudge and just checked out of the game.

​@@YTAG33well yeah, you're not usually deceived by your only teammate in the game. This was a massive asshole play by Adam and I wouldn't have blamed Tempest if he just shut down the computer and bounced

@@randrfan1 he killed his own host. it was his fault. if he was 100% sure he was the lunatic then attacking holly would have been unnecessary and if he had doubt in the fact that he was the lunatic he shouldn't have killed holly, so his play ultimately doesn't make sense.

From this game it seems Adam has gone all in on being the villain of this channel. Makes for some great content, and I will actively root for his downfall every game lol

"You are the demon. If you are mad about being the lunatic, you might switch alignment."

@@Chlios1187 this aged brilliantly.

@@Chlios1187 Considering that he has now left No Rolls Barred amidst sexual misconduct allegations, you have no idea how prophetic your comment was.

@@jetsflyingoffatrain4338 I said that.

Me too! I was laughing so hard along w them! What a fun convo to kick off w!

It's the Black Adder "I have a cunning plan" which is almost guaranteed to spontaneously combust somehow

Ahaha great callback

Even worse. He got played by his own minion usurping him to take the Demon role away

Please don't comment on past games :/

@@RealRamaladni ?

@@PlayerXIII Some people might be watching them in reverse order

@@hoebare just commenting on this one, so... 🤷

Nope, he definitely doesn't and no one wants to watch 5 games of monopoly.

@@miclowgunman1987 Yes, i've outted myself as someone that doesn't want to see time and effort go into what would actually be a very poor viewing video. That's not good for the channel or the analytics and would just not be a good time all around.

@@miclowgunman1987 I don't doubt anything. I just do not see how 5 games of monopoly can be entertaining. If you honestly think people want to watch that, then I got a bridge to sell you.

100% this was hard to watch. Honestly I feel bad for Tempest.

Chill hes just saying adam was an ass to tempest and deserves it dont take it personal dude

I'm sure he'll be able to laugh about it retrospectively. Because yeah it sucked a bit but still it's a game and it was quite funny from an outside perspective

Truest comment I've ever read.

Works perfectly with the given name. :)

I wonder what the nrb/myth busters venn diagram looks like

As Adam and Sully warned us on the last Quizzlemania, it's all part of his diabolical plan to takeover the world.

The best part is Adam was totally going to kill Dom to off himself for his victory finale... imagine if he had. Imagine the reaction on learning he'd lost instead.

When I saw it was Dom who got that role, I was like "well that's not going to end well." Because even when Dom is even, he still comes off super sus. XD

and Dan ends up being useless lmao

love loses money wins!!!

:( they broke up

@@corneliastreet2491what really?

@@minighul6511 amicably, but sadly, yes. Brooke was moving back to USA iirc

Completely agree.

@@nanyubusnis9397 I might be being unfair but it felt like Adam just wanted to be the demon rather than minion and tricked Tempest into making that happen. He essentially reduced Tempest to a spectator since everyone knew Tempest was evil so he couldn’t even try to influence the good team. The whole thing left a nasty taste in my mouth

Yeah that was messed up. I felt real bad for Tempest. The game is entertaining enough that they don’t need to shoehorn ‘bits’ into it.

Adam is very good at losing - everyone will be on board to kill off the demon and he will start being vocal and talk them out of it and so they lose - or he outshines himself as he did here - poor Tempest - I wonder if he’s spoken to Adam since 😂

@@nanyubusnis9397 I think he just wanted to become the demon

Darwin Award-worthy

Yes! I mean his lying to Tempest was also not great but I’m pretty sure his plan would have worked perfectly had he chosen Dan as host.

@@AceFrahm When Adam spoke to Tempest to begin with he did not know that Dan was the Tea Lady and he did not know Tempest was the leech. That was information he worked out later on in the day. Adams decision making only looks good in hindsight. Irrespective of that, Tempest is clearly not having fun for pretty much the whole game and that is the main reason why what Adam did is being dragged in the comments.

It was all in good fun

@@AceFrahm Correct, Adam's idea was, Lie to Tempest so he can act authentically to the town, Get to the next day and tell him what happened. Adam admitted in the night he didn't expect Tempest to kill himself.

@@AceFrahm Regardless of whether what Adam did was "smart" (I would argue that it wasn't), it was certainly unsportsmanlike, and quite frankly, egotistic. You can feel Tempest's annoyance at the end of the game, and that's for good reason. Adam wanted to be the Main Character, and that sucked all the fun out of the game for Tempest.

@@lasagna312 thing is he didn't want to be the main character, he wanted tempest to NOT kill himself. he was going to tell tempest the next day however tempest in I would believe to be a ridiculous play killed his own host for no reason, he already had cleared himself, there was no reason to kill holly other than confirmation that he wasn't the leach, which again was really stupid (in my opinion).

Trust your teammates when you know for certain that they're on your team, which Adam would have because there is no Lunatic equivalent for minions. If you don't think your teammates can act out your Grand Plan, don't lie to them to make them believe that they're something they aren't - find a plan that you both feel comfortable with, and communicate it.

You almost thought Adam was GOOD at board games? Surely his abysmal win loss record on Board Game Club would be damning evidence to the contrary. And this is coming from a Blampied fan at that. A Blampied fan that both hates and loves whenever Adam loses. Hates it because it always sucks watching your favourite member lose, but loves it because each loss means Adam gets closer and closer to being forced to play 5 straight games of Monopoly, and I will not accept his loophole to try and weasel out of it, and I know for a fact pretty much everyone else feels the same way about it. Monopoly is one of my favourite board games, I will not apologise for that, and I eagerly look forward to Adam understanding that neither Eric Bischoff nor Benjamin Burns (Daddy Ben) are his daddy, Monopoly is.

@@JoshCreepa I feel like it was Sarcasm 💀

@@flicnerdy4385 somehow, I doubt it. Trust me, I’m an expert on sarcasm, much to the chagrin of my family and friends.

@@JoshCreepa Never in the history of humanity has someone who claimed they're "an expert on sarcasm" actually been an expert on sarcasm. Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case I wouldn't know because I'm not an expert on sarcasm nor would I claim to be.

@@thompsonnoel for once, I’m not being sarcastic. I never said I was THE expert on sarcasm, I just said I was AN expert on sarcasm. There are plenty of people that are just as sarcastic as me out there, like Adam for instance. But trust me, I am AN expert on sarcasm. I really am. My family and friends make it a habit to tell me to tone it down every time, that should tell you, if you knew them that is.

Yesss me too!

In No Role Barred House Rules fashion, he's playing Jenga in boxing gloves but the object is to make the tower fall but he's playing in zero G.

Hey keep in mind Blair managed to tell Jon AKA demon levitation he was lunatic as a politician

@@lorddragon8449 yes but they were opposite alignments, NOT the minion.

@@lorddragon8449 that was an excellent play tho lmao

@@gimpifyde1 my point is that even the demon could be fooled into believing they are lunatic to loss

Dom has grown to be my favourite of the gang

Yeah Tempest being a big baby really ruined it for me

@@johndonaldson5341 There was no cheating game and I really wish people would smarten up and understand that interacting with madness is a choice, regardless of whether the ST is around or not.

@@Amzzyyo Completely unfair to insult Tempest like this. Tempest is, afaik, still new to BoTC and social deduction games in general. It takes time to adapt and understand the inner machinations of being on the evil team and running with bluffs.

​@@Amzzyyo you would be upset if you were lied to by your minion in one of your first demon-role games lmao

@@AceFrahm I mean fair, but only if you ignore that his “you’re the lunatic” play started BEFORE Tempest revealed he was the Lleech and Dan was the Tea Lady. But that’s not how it went down. He started with this play then retroactively tried to make it work once he had pertinent information. You can blame the script all you want, or Tempest picking his host (fair on that point, I don’t understand that particular decision), but you can’t argue in good faith that this wasn’t a bit of a dick move, and that Tempest clearly wasn’t having fun throughout, nor would he have retroactively had a fun time if they’d won. He still would’ve contributed very little to that victory, it would’ve rung hollow for him. No one’s arguing the winning or losing, they’re criticising the mean tactic that, unfortunately, led to the lead demon having to sit the entire game out and watch from the sidelines due to his own inexperience. And that’s a horrible position to be in

Tempest wasn't removed. Quit trying to put the blame on Adam. Tempest had options. Tempest chose the wrong ones. Tempest is still new to BoTC/Social deduction games. It'll take time for him to acclimate.

Adam removed the correct world for Tempest by pretending he wasn't his minion and his reasoning for doing so was to make Tempest more believable. Tempest is visibly annoyed by this at the end of the episode and clearly states he didn't have any choice in what happened.

@@fingerling1231 Tempest did have choices. This was hindered by his inexperience at BoTC.

@@mykeCA82 and Adam had the choice to work collaboratively instead of manipulating his teammate. Adam's decisions removed most of the choices Tempest could have made. Experienced players are not going to expect their minion to lie to them and convince them they're the lunatic because it's creating chaos for the sake of it and putting your fun over everyone's fun. If you disagree then I hope I never play a social deduction game with a person like you.

@@fingerling1231 I, personally, wouldn't lead my Demon to believe they were the Lunatic. Hell in a game last night, I was an evil Bone Collector that came in Day 3, learned who the new Demon was, was informed of who the old Demon was (they were trying to get back onto the evil team) and I helped facilitate that and Evil ended up getting the win. There are tactical reasons for a Demon to full on believe they are the Lunatic. Do I fully subscribe to them? No. I recognize they have a place and I've seen them work. So don't think just because I disagree with your assessment that is something I personally do. It is not something I've done or would ever do.

You said that it wouldn't be fair, but that is part of the game. Evil can win in the most unexpected ways, so to say that it wouldn't be deserved is very unfair.

@@AceFrahm That's the Heretic for ya. It completely turns the game on it's head and you have to think about it differently. If late game someone comes out as a potential Heretic, I'm likely to believe them. And if it's a bluff and I fall for it, then well played to the Evil team.

yeah that was bad. I would be soooo mad if I was Tempest. It really could have worked if Adam had explained the plan properly. Fooling your own team is bad form.

Yeah, very bad form of Adam to remove Tempest from the decision, and it was not funny to see him blame Tempest at the end even as a bit. Just look at Tempest's face at the end. That's how people stop playing with you. I hope there was a genuine apology off camera.

Very hard to watch.

It's just a game lads. Literally a game of deception.

@@Amzzyyo I feel bad for anyone who has to play a team based game with you.

You hate to see it 😂

This game was unsportsmanlike from Adam. If I were playing with him and he tried this play, I wouldn't particularly want to play with him again. He made a play to grab the spotlight for himself, at the expense of the team he was playing for. Maybe he was "doing it for the content" or whatever, but a player not acting in the best interest of their team ruins this game.

@@AceFrahm Even if it was a good play, it was still unsportsmanlike. He removed any agency from Tempest on the choice to execute that plan, and completely turned him to a spectator who was pretty much unable to do anything else for the rest of the game. The play would have worked just as fine if he had clued Tempest in and they agreed on it as the team they were supposed to be. In fact it would have worked better because then he wouldn't have killed himself (which also revealed there was a Scarlet Woman in play).

@@AceFrahm there’s a simple solution for that: just tell Tempest what you have in mind and he would have played along. Not telling is just absolutely selfish and “doing it for the content” is not a good excuse. Just pay attention to Tempest’s face after being told by Adam until the end. No one wants to be in that position.

I can only imagine how much he was seething at the end of that game.

​​​​​@@AceFrahm"for half the game, it worked out EXTREMELY WELL." I guess failing catastrophically on night 2 technically counts as working out half the game, since they lost on day 3

It is only 'clever' if Adam knew he was a leech before speaking to Tempest. Which is impossible

Killing the "demon" is the first thing the lunatic always does. What a plan.

Admiral Holdo over here 😂

@@nina9565 Plenty of times I've bluffed Lunatic and not advocated for my own execution because "I'm confirmed by outsider count."

@@mykeCA82 I'm not talking about the execution, I'm talking about picking yourself at night.

@@nina9565 No Demon, Lunatic or actual would ever choose to pick their host on the off chance they are the actual demon. That decision is on Tempest, NOT Adam.

I like Adam, but kneecapping your team for the sake of a big play is pretty frustrating

I think he was blaming Tempest as a joke and a bit, but it still came off poorly considering what he did. I'm honestly glad Adam screwed himself by selecting Dom as his host though, made it so satisfying to see him realise he messed up. Laurie's reaction when he heard Adam announce his "victory lap" was great too (since Laurie knew what was going to happen)

Adam DID NOT force Tempest out of the game. Tempest chose to sit back and not really do much. Tempest had options. No one forces another person out of the game. The choice to play or sit back is always the persons'. This blaming game needs to stop because it's honestly sickening from a fan base that's supposed to be supportive.

@@johndonaldson5341 Hard disagree about your observation.

@@mykeCA82 You obviously don't know anything about this game. Tempest played 100% correctly based on the information that Adam gave him, and by that point the game was effectively ruined.

Stop, omg I'd cry and never stop laughing! 🤣🤣🤣

leaving a reply in case someone actually does this

He would have won by not choosing Dom regardless

I haven't watched it yet, but if you mean what I think (I hope!) you mean, then I have been rooting for that for the longest time!!!!!

@@AceFrahm Adam didn't carry anything lmfao. There was a 100% chance scenario, with the info Sully/Brooke had, that the good team wins on Day 2. Adam was given the chance to carry only after Good threw.

@@AceFrahm As Sully you know Day 2 win is a certainty. 5 alive, known heretic in play and known Adam=Leech. Day 2 exec heretic, courtier leech. 3 days to exec known good without leech dying to host death. 100% win scenario. Adam blundered insanely hard.

@@AceFrahm day 2 facts: - 6 alive - Sully knows Dom is heretic (Dom tells Sully by accident because he thought courtier drunks person, not role) - Sully confirms Dom is heretic (Brooke tells Sully her artist question) - Sully knows Leech in play (no other way for 2 deaths by execution. Holly/Tempest not claiming grandmother after death) - Sully knows Scarlet Woman in play (no other way for game to continue) - Sully knows Adam is Scarlet Woman turned Leech (Tempest outs his minion before he realises he's not the lunatic) - By exclusion, Sully knows that no minions can interfere with his ability (Scarlet woman is only minion) Day 2 execution - Dom (Heretic). - If Dom is leech host, Good win. - If Dom is not leech host, Heretic ability is active. Town needs to "lose" to win. Night 3 - Drunk Leech Day 3, 4 and 5 - Execute Dan, Brooke, Luke End of Day 5 - 2 alive, Evil wins with Heretic therefore Good wins I will say though, there are scenarios where it's not 100% good win, but it's close enough to 100%. For example, if an Amne was in the game with the ability "Once per game, if a Good player is mad that they are not their own role, they may become the role they are mad about", the Heretic might become another role after Day 1 (brooke artist question).

@@AceFrahm I understand where you're coming from about potential worlds but personally, I think you chose the two most ironclad points to argue against. There is no dispute that a Heretic is in play because at least one of Brooke/Dom is good (Tempest Demon, 2 evil in 8 game). From Sully's point of view, we even see he believes Heretic is in play because he drunks the Heretic N3. As for Holly/Tempest - I don't know how much clocktower you've played, but good grandmother always comes out in multiple death. Usually, grandmother plays are when evil claims grandmother in double death nights to poison town info. From my personal experience, there have been many, many demons that think they are the lunatic and only 1 game where the grandmother didn't immediately out themselves in a double death (but they did give the info next day). If I'm going to DA myself, I would've gone after "Adam is the Scarlett Woman". This is the weakest of the possible worlds because, if you're not sure of Lunatic, you give fake minions. So Adam == Leech is far from 100%. However, we have to trust that info-roles in the town are able to take care of that possibility, and in almost every world this will be true because ST balances teams and will never give a town no real info.

@@11th-lemon as a Patron who watches all of those games, you should sign up and see how it plays out!

@@11th-lemon ah sorry bud, that's on me. Still plenty of surprises and fun to have on the Patreon games, Laurie is doing this storyteller bit for a good number of them

@@11th-lemon good shout and done. Hope to see you on the patreon credits soon! 👍

I mean there is that one episode of Board game club where brooke did one really bad move that basicly ruined both adam's and sully's game. westeren legends I think it was called

To be fair, even if someone believed they were the Lunatic, they wouldn't actually pick their host as a target to kill.

Yeah that was so satisfying, still feel bad for tempest (not that evil lost but about what happened to him)

You'd gotten sick of someone playing the game? You've obviously never played social read games before ... he whole point of them is deception.

@@davidhasselholf nah he's being a baby. People with critical thought (most full grown adults) will question everything that someone says in a social deduction game, instead of just immediately believing one world view.

@@Amzzyyo Because logically speaking there's absolutely no reason for a minion to lie to their demon, so Tempest, asuming Adam was playing like a normal person, couldn't see for what reason his minion would lie to him. Instead, Adam just did a play that made no sense and screwed up his team just because, Tempest had no reason to believe Adam would just actively troll his team, so instead he believed him.

@@Amzzyyo Can you stop insulting Tempest please? That's incredibly rude of you. Grow up.

No one forced Tempest to sit out.

Let the termites rise up

Well it does. Tempest chose to pick his own host instead of someone else.

Tempest did exactly what Sully did when Adam convinced him he was the lunatic to test himself, killing himself. I really don't see how that was such a bizarre move.

Pretty sure that was a joke and not an actual blame. No one got screwed over.

@@mykeCA82 You can tell Tempest was annoyed so the joke certainly didn’t go over well.

@@mykeCA82 Tempest certainly looks like he is not having a good time and feeling like he’s been screwed over. Surprised it seems to go over your head.

@@arthursimsa9005 His facial reactions are not lost on me. I've just never felt the need to point them out. As someone that wears there emotions on my sleeve, I completely sympathize with where Tempest is coming from. I am also coming from a place where I have a lot play experience as well. I also have faith that the NRB crew makes sure that aftercare is taken care of.

@@mykeCA82 That does not appear on screen and knowing how Adam acts on screen, I doubt it.

Courtier drunks Lleech, Leech's host dies while Lleech is drunk, Lleech is now immortal.

@@bennburns a drunk leech can still be executed. However, of the drunkeness wears off, then the leech would be immortal from then

@@bennburns If the Lleech is drunk, could they not be killed normally at that time? Or wouldn't they immediately die upon becoming sober if their host is dead?

​@@bennburnswould the lleech die if the courier did, or when the courtier's drunkenness wore off?

@@randrfan1 No, because the Lleech dies if and when their host dies. If their host dies while they're drunk then they can't die again once the Lleech sobers up, thus creating an immortal Lleech.

Call of Cthulhu was epic, would love to see more of the series.